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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by ChybuzzDD(m): 1:20pm On Dec 17, 2023
Ofadaman:


If e easy go earn am for naija,
Only 5-6k pounds as if you dey earn reach 400 pounds per month got naija here. Get sense

You lack the ability to understand simple things.
Btw, who told you i'm in Nigeria?

What my post meant was that sky crapper cleaners and other people in that category can't earn 5-6pounds/month in the UK, as you wrongly claimed.
That's the salary of senior workers and professionals.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 1:42pm On Dec 17, 2023
DavSagacity:

Stop being sarcastic. Are u saying there no qualified health professional scattered around the country. I know your type.
Ire Oooo
I never meant Doctors I'm talking healthcare.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Fredfr33zy(m): 1:43pm On Dec 17, 2023
YoshihideSuga:


I'm genuinely curious,

Was the business doing so badly before he sold them? Was he at a point attacked by herdsmen, police or robbers before relocating? What made him sell everything before relocating?

I do not think so, he was doing well, a young guy in his early forties. He already has two houses one on rent and lives in one(duplex) solar-powered and CCTV (just trying to portray how well he was doing). He has three kids, the bills were too much school fees and all, and the other business is on in Nigeria. I believe he would have lived a better life here in Nigeria when the kids have gotten to a stage where he can send them off to the UK for their masters OR he would have travelled alone and sent money back home.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 1:46pm On Dec 17, 2023
lanre316:


My Regional Manager at a new generation Nigerian bank where I work relocated to Canada to work as post office clerk, just a clerk, not even supervisor or any senior position. On top that, he complains that he spent most of the salary to pay rent and utility bills. Na the oga of my oga that senior my oga be that o. He sold everything he has to take his family of 5 to Canada.

I have always maintained my position that if I make my money here, I will never relocate. I can only travel there for holidays and flex. I pray God bless me with multimillion dollars level of success in my own fatherland. I have no intention to be a glorified servant in another man's land.
Ask yourself this.E bad like that why dnt he return?If anyone abroad say they are broke they are not.they are broke just for U.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by HugeElephant(f): 2:04pm On Dec 17, 2023
Adakintroy:
When black man think of the west they think of joining the white man on the throne immediately. Were as the reality is that you go straight down to the the base in line with intellectual/ financial pecking order.

You were the smartest man in your village maybe. But here in the city, you just another village man.

grin
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by michlins(m): 2:21pm On Dec 17, 2023
erico2k2:

Ask yourself this.E bad like that why dnt he return?If anyone abroad say they are broke they are not.they are broke just for U.
return to start doing what exactly sir?


The position he left, will he return to it? Japa is best for people who have no where to start in Nigeria,if not plan wella or you will start scratching the surface
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 2:59pm On Dec 17, 2023
michlins:
return to start doing what exactly sir?


The position he left, will he return to it? Japa is best for people who have no where to start in Nigeria,if not plan wella or you will start scratching the surface
Let me repeat, People who told you they are broke are not, they are just broke for you, they use that to scope people. Nigerians abroad are very proud people, and we have done exceptionally well amongst black migrants you have no idea.A single man hustling solo in the Uk is by far beter Economically than a single man hustling solo in Nigeria. In al who wears the shoe knows where it hurts cannot .next time that man you are talking about complains or uses negative phrase when you are in convo with him just tell him you will love to swap position with him he will stop talking. No let me leave this with you. No poor man can Japa as it involves enormous funds to do soe.I bought my ticket 5 months ago to return to 9ja Lufthansa to PHC direct, it cost me £1100, which is N1,6m todays rate. Common sense must tell you, we have water and Grass here, would you want to make it greener is the big question
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by YoshihideSuga: 3:32pm On Dec 17, 2023
Fredfr33zy:


I do not think so, he was doing well, a young guy in his early forties. He already has two houses one on rent and lives in one(duplex) solar-powered and CCTV (just trying to portray how well he was doing). He has three kids, the bills were too much school fees and all, and the other business is on in Nigeria. I believe he would have lived a better life here in Nigeria when the kids have gotten to a stage where he can send them off to the UK for their masters OR he would have travelled alone and sent money back home.

I think that was the issue sha. Surprising to see people sell their hard earned assets to work odd jobs overseas.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Dshocker(m): 4:25pm On Dec 17, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.

So if you don't have hopes of getting a job, why not use the millions spent on japa to establish here?
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by medicaljobadver: 4:44pm On Dec 17, 2023
His starting point. In three years he could have surpassed his Nigerian status.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by TenQ: 5:47pm On Dec 17, 2023
bolabizzle:
Just got word from a friend about someone who made the move from being a bank manager in Nigeria to working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK. 😕

Smart move or not?
Smart move.

Skyscraper cleaners earn very well.
You need to be trained and certified both medically and professionally to be fit before deployment.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by MT: 5:48pm On Dec 17, 2023
MSN1:

because; thats the fact.
If u are close to a senior professor, ask him/her to tell u their salary.
I bet u don't know the cash, stress and frustration it takes to get to professor evel.
The first day my now late Senior Professor palli told me his salary, i almost weep for him.
That is the money my Dad that dropped out @ pry6 makes in one business trip (for 1 week).

How do u guys even compare variables sef?.

Comparing country where a whole doctors are living from hand to mouth with countries where common labourers are balling hard is insanity and to think u guys don't know, those guys struggled and sweated to make to make their countroes work.
So, u guys want to go there and work in big big offices, Does that makes sense 2 u, going to ride on peoples sweat?

Those doing menial jobs there, live comfortably but the mentality of get ALL at once of Nigerians is what is driving MOST of them nut.

How many level 10 civil servants here can afford to buy even common corolla here?, can that be said of saner climes where small workers get access to the good things in life?.

Please whenever you guys hear pipo moving to saner climes, JUST SAY CONGRATS AND WORK HARDER TO JOIN THEM.
IF U GUYS KNOW WHAT NIGERIA WILL BE IN COMING YEARS, UNA GO FEAR!.

--This country has been sold and anyone that handle the mantle; IS JUST THERE FOR HIS SHARE, IT TAKES COMMON SENSE TO KNOW THIS.

And I can see you have demonstrated that common sense with this your rant.

Well done!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Jewessgratitud3: 5:58pm On Dec 17, 2023
Dshocker:


So if you don't have hopes of getting a job, why not use the millions spent on japa to establish here?

Most people borrow to japa and if they use the money to establish here the may run into debt. So better to japa with the money where you can recover it and pay back

Get my drift?
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Elinosweet143(f): 6:14pm On Dec 17, 2023
No be every bank manager get soft life oh, he has his reasons and if it makes him happy why judge him
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Dshocker(m): 7:17pm On Dec 17, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:


Most people borrow to japa and if they use the money to establish here the may run into debt. So better to japa with the money where you can recover it and pay back

Get my drift?

Your excuse is not excusing...

With N7m i can introduce one into export business where you make N10m every month.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Ofadaman(m): 10:58pm On Dec 17, 2023
ChybuzzDD:


You lack the ability to understand simple things.
Btw, who told you i'm in Nigeria?

What my post meant was that sky crapper cleaners and other people in that category can't earn 5-6pounds/month in the UK, as you wrongly claimed.
That's the salary of senior workers and professionals.

Who cares where you are, you can be in the antarctic or inside sahara desert ,your life , your choice.
Oga my last two jobs have been 3.5k and 4k pounds remote, and I'm no senior officer or professional.

Una go just dey blab anyhow, how much do you think fire fighter and electrical /construction workers earn a month in the UK, it will pay a bank manager salary here in Nigeria three times.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by unmask: 5:43am On Dec 18, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.
Well it depends on how much he earned as a banker and how much he earns now.

Sky scrapper cleaner is a risky job and will get rewarded for the risk. The problem is classism in Nigeria. We feel some jobs are beneath us because it carries no fancy title.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Jewessgratitud3: 8:21am On Dec 18, 2023
unmask:
Well it depends on how much he earned as a banker and how much he earns now.

Sky scrapper cleaner is a risky job and will get rewarded for the risk. The problem is classism in Nigeria. We feel some jobs are beneath us because it carries no fancy title.

That's what I'm equally saying. From Cool and safe job to a risky one though the pay is higher. It's also the way the op put it that spells comparison and make it look like one is more classy than the other. The same person will not do this kind of job here because of this mentally but is gladly doing it over there
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by unmask: 10:08am On Dec 18, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:


That's what I'm equally saying. From Cool and safe job to a risky one though the pay is higher. It's also the way the op put it that spells comparison and make it look like one is more classy than the other. The same person will not do this kind of job here because of this mentally but is gladly doing it over there

I think the major problem is handwork here is not as rewarding as it is over there. If sh*t packing paid more than banking, a lot of bankers will go there

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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Jewessgratitud3: 10:23am On Dec 18, 2023
unmask:
I think the major problem is handwork here is not as rewarding as it is over there. If sh*t packing paid more than banking, a lot of bankers will go there

Yes the money is the driving force in all this.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Love800(m): 2:19pm On Dec 18, 2023
Id there difference between civil service and public sector?
erico2k2:

ofcos I do not, I have the NHS .SO I asked you a simple question you failing to ask, do you work as a civil servant or in the public SECTOR?
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Love800(m): 2:58pm On Dec 18, 2023
Are degrees not important there?
casualobserver:


If you are planning to go to the Uk or anywhere, you have to have professional skills that are in demand. Get your certifications before you go. Don’t go as an illegal migrant. You will eventually earn well. It may be a while before you get your 1st job and even the 1st one may not pay so much but once you do, you are good.

If you are planning to japa without high value skills or you think you have a degree, your suffering won’t have part 2.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by casualobserver: 3:08pm On Dec 18, 2023
Love800:
Are degrees not important there?

It depends on the industry. You have to be specific. Ofcourse if you are looking for a job as a doctor, a lawyer, a pharmacist, an engineer, you need a degree. In IT nobody cares. Even in accounting you don’t need a degree, you can go straight to do your ACcA or ACMA.

In most other non professional jobs (even in Nigeria) nobody really cares about your degree except to show you are educated and can think.

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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by papyjaypaul: 3:22pm On Dec 18, 2023
casualobserver:
people who have not entered a plane in their lives will come to Nairaland deceiving people.


As you can see below a window cleaner is a window cleaner. A high rise window cleaner may earn more than a regular cleaner but he will still earn less than the average American job.

You know why you make me laugh? I can show you PhD jobs in the same US that pays minimum wage. Does that mean you should not study for PhD? Check indeed or any job board and every profession has ridiculous salaries. There is money in sanitation even though it is the most basic job to be done. Lawyers are earning big, lawyers are earning small. Na you go find your way. There's no need to argue sir.

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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by papyjaypaul: 3:25pm On Dec 18, 2023
correctguy101:


Keep wishing..

Seun will be like: "Shey this baba dey whyne me ni?" undecided

There is something that made Elon monetize his platform and that is why he is bS the advertisers today on Israel war. He has enough money but the problem is that we will not know who is using the platform for truth because sponsors will take over. Are we not paying on linkedin, facebook, instagram for certain features?

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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by papyjaypaul: 3:29pm On Dec 18, 2023
ariesbull:


It's a lowly and low level paying job..Oya not intellectually tasking ....


And he can't do that for long

People can live how they want. This guy could have dreamt of living a life like this. The problem with Nigerian education system is that every one concentrates on one thing. Today it is IT, tomorrow it is blogging. He has transferable skills from this profession alone because not everyone can climb 20 ft, stay up there despite bad weather, risk falling amidst others. Are you aware he can travel to Dubai and other cities to clean windows with his experience? He can travel to where he is paid more. This is why I laughed at the other guy saying that I am giving motivational speech. People don't like following their journey, they like noise. This job is one they fly people in to do and no be everything you go see online. Why some cooks de earn pass Iya Bose Canteen? Shey iya bose no fit cook sweet soup? Person wey de chop no go tell you which sauce he add for soup. Na secret sauxe.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by papyjaypaul: 3:31pm On Dec 18, 2023
NOwazobia:
Naija bad whether na water the grass or not.


The country is very bad.


Everything is falling apart, people are barely coping.


Save us the sermon of if he bad for your eye...


Everyone, both the rich and the poor are paying more than times 2 than what they used to, but wages and salary have barely change, some even reduce the wages of their workers to keep business afloat.


Many who are not moving today don't have the means to, others cannot risk it, why some others don't know how to cope in a new environment, especially when they don't have anyone expecting them on the other side.


Some are criminals who find 9ja as a safer haven for their criminal activities.


Our politicians literally don't believe in the country, except for the ease to loot public resources. They easily run to foreign institutions for better health and vacations.


No one is more faithful and hopeful than the poor, but most still remain poor regardless of what they believe in.


Many have been watering but there is little to no yield.


It is either you match your prices aggressively to inflation or fold up completely.


The country is bad and very bad is on the lips of the successful and the unsuccessful... undecided
You are not far from the truth but just the way you are complaining is how the people are complaining abroad about their politicians, interest rate and inflation. Some of them have japa to other countries but they know their country. People are free to move but to present the situation like we will all die tomorrow, I greet you. The thing wey de make Asians de flock enter the country na im we suppose ask say one man poison na another daily bread.

No country is perfect. As war de Libya, Somalia, Syria, Palestine, some people still de there and love it there. Those wey wan comot go comot. life is what you give to it.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Love800(m): 4:38pm On Dec 18, 2023
What is the meaning of H1B visa?
Gerrard59:


There are countless software engineers who left Nigeria for the US and worked as software engineers. They went via H1B visa. Others started working after school. What visa did you use to enter the US?
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Love800(m): 5:03pm On Dec 18, 2023
He will do 2-3 jobs.
Simple
ehissi:




This is the problem with some Nigerians, you assess ones income overseas based on the value of the money in your own country.

Is he living in Nigeria or living in the UK? Will he spend his income based on the cost of living in Nigeria in Naira or the cost of living in the UK in British pounds?

If I want to follow your argument in reverse, inside that same UK so, to buy raw akpu (Fufu) whey no big reach anywhere, is £2, which is #3,130 compared to #100 in Nigeria, e make sense abi?

£23,000 a year is just £1,917 pounds a month, how much is food, how much is house rent, furniture, fittings and electronics? How much is phone and phone bills? Car note and fuel? TV license? Gas for cooking and heat in winter? Clothes nko? NHS/Health care cost nko?


Based on current income tax system, personal allowance (which is annual income that isnt subject to any income tax) is set at a threshhold of £12,570. Anything above this to £50,270, the excess is subject to a 20% deductible income tax.

So by simple maths
£23,000 - £12,570 = £10,430.

20% of £10,430 is £2,086, so his annual income tax out of that £23,000 a year is £2,086. Which means his annual income after they deduct income tax is £20,914. That is £1,742 a month......

We have not deducted NHS and other deductible taxes from that £1,742, we haven't touched on your personal bills and utilities......

Anybody, earning £1,917 monthly before taxes is considered low income, anybody that earns £1,917 monthly before taxes that supports a family is considered poor in the UK!!

At #6,000,000 a year in Nigeria Sir, you are not poor. If they paid you that #6,000,000 here in a year, you are more than capable to live a comfortable life, dress well, buy a good used car, raise a family, send your kids to reasonably good schools and if you manage money well, build a house in one remote area to retire to as a pensioneer.

Try and achieve the same feat in the UK on £23,000 a year and see whether you no go jam rock!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Gerrard59(m): 5:25pm On Dec 18, 2023
Love800:
What is the meaning of H1B visa?

https://us-visa.jp/visa/h1/
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Gerrard59(m): 5:27pm On Dec 18, 2023
Love800:
He will do 2-3 jobs.
Simple

Thereby affecting his physical health, leisure time and mental health. That is not a good way to live life as someone who was a bank manager.

Anyway, fake post from the mendacious OP.

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