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madone:
So I beg to disagree with all your points

-The only one that came close to reality is racism. But in Nigeria we have tribalism and Nepotism.

-brother Nigerian youths work abroad pay tax and have value for their money. What is the essence of spending money to buy light unit bit you never get light.
What is the meaning of recharging your TV subscription but never get to see light to watch the programs on it till its expires

-What is the use of paying Tax and your government cant show you what the tax is used for or do you think we don't pay tax in Nigeria? Well let me tell u some of us do.

-Who told you Nigeria is is safe. In Nigeria there many ways to die in a day.
I from bokoharam, to herdsmen, kidnappers, ritualistic, hit and run drivers., palmpay, sharkloan
JAPA has helped many families so never call people who japa cowards it's simply means you don't know the meaning of the word coward

The op is a childish person. He is not exposed and he surely does not have major investment in Nigeria. He may be a school teacher. Most of his points lacked reality. I have a business and I pay tax to local council yearly but for them to grade my street that is erosion ridden is a problem. If the op live outside this country, he will understand the hell he has been living.

Basicend:
It will be very difficult to be rich abroad esp. Canada & UK. Am not sure of others. They have already programmed the system to tax back almost half of your earning . . No matter your endeavours.

God bless you for such responds sir.

No evidence, you go explain tire. We're going there. We don't want our vote to be counted next election. We are japaing

I'm going

integrity16:
Please kindly answer the question he asked you first before throwing yours. As per the question you asked, do you mean say that you paid millions to go US/Canada just so you can afford three square meals?

The millions you paid to Japa, those who have that same millions in their accounts in Nigeria can't afford three square meals?

What i paid to japa shouldn't be your concern. It is a sacrifice for my entire generation till thy kingdom come. I will birth citizens that your corrupt leaders also uses our resources to buy for themselves and families

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that can't afford ordinary 3 square meal?

Tell me the level of US or Canada graduates that are jobless like Nigerian graduates after school?

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that cannot afford just a bag of rice like millions of Nigerians?

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that their government has rendered useless to the extent that the only option left is cyber fraud popularly known as Yahoo Yahoo as we have most average Nigerians youths indulge in?

Please tell me if US or Canada leaders earn more than Nigerian leaders and what is the HDI of those countries compare to Nigeria?

True talk, sometimes what causes japa is laziness among some youths some of them still think that overseas there is no struggle

Available9:
What's your definition of make it...?

Gone are those days when people travel abroad and in no time, they will start sending money and building houses...

Living in a society where you have all the basic amenities, but about 75% of your money go for bills...when comparing, compare the 25% with what people earn in Nigeria...in business, it is called take home...

Someone who earns 2000 dollars every month abroad and pays bills of 75% is equal to someone who earns N500, 000 in Nigeria... because if that person removes the 75%, he will be left with $500 as take home.

Before you argue with me, rent in abroad is paid on monthly basis and it can be between $750 to $2000 for most of our Japa brethren

You be mu², how many people make #500,000 per month here in Nigeria but over there that figure is below many countries minimum wage.

That is the difference...

Basicend:
If you have the opportunity and God is not leading you to stay in Nigeria, you can japa o.

But God showed me that Nigeria will regain her balance later. I am very certain of this, and those that held it's pillars in the trying times will give direction and earn authority in the stable season.

God never lied to me. It will take a lot of strenght and clarity to stay now, so go, if you don't understand the mysteries of the spirit.

Did Nigeria have balance before?

Angelfrost:
Op, most of your points are blatant, needless, and laughable LIES!

But, it's okay... I can understand the need to soothe your personal deficiencies.

Personally, I'm neither for nor against migration...!

Whatever reasons people have for leaving their countries, we should respect them. Same way those choosing to stay back should be equally respected.

None should be deemed better than the other... This is why I find both Pro-Japa and Anti-japa posts/threads very STUPID!

No man or woman should be told or unduly influenced about his or her choices... If Nigeria is not working for you, and you know out there will meet your life expectations, then don't hesitate to get out.

On the other hand, if Nigeria affords you the best of life, ignore these Japarians... Stay back, and live your best life.

At the end, whether in Nigeria or abroad, happiness is the same.

He even said there is no natural food abroad. Very funny dude

"U 're 7 times more likely to be shot in America than Lagos"
Na only Lagos dey Nigeria, abi all of us should migrate to lagos

Helgreenluv:
Good luck in your quest. Experience is the best teacher. Nothing humbles a man like learning the hard way

keep decieving yourself and your likes 😂
Your country is a 3rd world nation and you can't compare it to a developed nation in all facets

I don't think I'll have that amount and still want to travel. Everybody wants to make it the easy way forgetting there's actually no easy way to success. With that amount I'll do a business that will double that amount in a short or long while. When you have money you'll know there's no place like Nigeria. I'll live in the best and safest part of this country and I'll afford all I desire.

I nor read o, but just dey play.

Said it all bro 👍

Angelfrost:
Op, most of your points are blatant, needless, and laughable LIES!

But, it's okay... I can understand the need to soothe your personal deficiencies.

Personally, I'm neither for nor against migration...!

Whatever reasons people have for leaving their countries, we should respect them. Same way those choosing to stay back should be equally respected.

None should be deemed better than the other... This is why I find both Pro-Japa and Anti-japa posts/threads very STUPID!

No man or woman should be told or unduly influenced about his or her choices... If Nigeria is not working for you, and you know out there will meet your life expectations, then don't hesitate to get out.

On the other hand, if Nigeria affords you the best of life, ignore these Japarians... Stay back, and live your best life.

At the end, whether in Nigeria or abroad, happiness is the same.

They will never listen

Princewill1:
This is a rebuttal of this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/7936687/11-reasons-why-must-japa#:~:text=11.,life%20expectancy%20is%20very%20high.

DISCLAIMER:
There is a notion that once you present an anti-japa argument, you're automatically an agent working for the govt. I want to state here that I have never supported this Apc govt since their coming to power in 2015. My contrary opinion on japa stems from my detest of youths mass-migration for economic reasons. I see it as an act of cowardice and stupidity.

This is not just for Nigerians japaing alone. I'm also disgusted whenever I see pictures of thousands of able bodied Latino youths who are at the US-Mexico border begging to be allowed entry into the US. These youths coming to together to mass-migrate can also link-up to take back their country via any possible means. Because if their home countries were better, they won't be moving out enmass. One of the reasons why the citizens of the country you're japaing to often discriminate against you is because you have proven to be a weakling seeking an easy excape or an inferior who are incapable of fixing their problems.
The only mass-migration i support is if it's due to serious natural disaster or large scale political persecution like that of Israel-Palestinian conflict. Below are the 11 reasons why you shouldn't Japa from Nigeria.

1.) It's More Easier To Be A Dollar Millionaire/Billionaire In Nigeria:

There are millions of Nigerians in the diaspora who are supposedly living in the first world economy and are working in various fields of human endeavor. But it may interest you to know that non have ever made it into Forbes billionaires list. But those at home keep making the list back to back.
This is important to point out because wealth building is a crucial topic to every real man and majority of Nigerian men moving are doing so mainly due to financial reasons.
Truth is, Nigeria is the largest market in Africa and a developing economy. There are plenty of wealth to be created in a "developing economy" than in a "develop economy", that's why as you are trooping out, Chinese, Lebanese and Indians are trooping in. Nigerians are raising $20k-30k in this economy to Japa while average Americans can't boast of $10k in their bank accounts, they live check to check.

2.) African Communal Living:

Nigeria offers the African social support system that you won't find in the Western countries. You fit run into financial emergency, your family will gather to raise funds for you, if you child misbehaves outside elders go assist you to discipline the child before you return home, if your house is on fire the whole neighborhood will join hands in puting out the fire, if you're cooking late night and ran out of maggi, if you knock on your neighbor door, him go deliver you, if your co-tenant never see you for 2 to 3 days, he go knock for your door to check up on you. All these don't happen in your Japa destination. In the West, you fit dey sick and later kpai inside your room and stay there for over a month nobody go know until your body begins to the smell.

3.) There Is More Insecurity Abroad:

You are 7times more likely to be shot in any city in America than in Lagos. Almost every Western country has violent "Far-Right Groups" who are frustrated and bitter with their Govts for allowing influx of migrants to erode their society and culture. These groups are like a time bomb waiting to go off because they can easily turn violent by attacking migrants especially black people. The big truth is, insecurity especially in southern Nigeria is over-reported and amplified on social media. There are violent crimes in every country. The crime news you read on social media especially in South of the country is commiserate with our population. No one can pull out any data anywhere to show that crime rate in the South has reached an epidemic proportions as believed on social media. In fact if you ban social media for 1year in Nigeria and conduct an opinion poll on insecurity. You will be surprised that Nigerians will tell you that insecurity has reduced. Just recently, a govt minister was robbed on the highway in South Africa. If that were to happens in Nigeria, Japa will be trending in Nigeria for more than a week. Most Nigerians haven't seen a bokoharam militant before but bokoharam will attack a village in Borno State close to the border with Chad, someone living in Lekki will read the news online and tweet that he wants to Japa due to insecurity.

4.) Easy Access To Natural Foods:

Nigeria has abundant healthy cheap natural foods and it's even taken for granted here. The people in the abroad you wants to go are jealous of your menu. Unhealthy and disease-causing canned and processed foods are what you will end up to when you finally japa because you will pay through your nose to place your hands on any organic food there.

5.) Favourable Weather Condition Throughout The Year:

Nigeria has one of the best climate conditions you can find. We have no extreme weather here. No severe temperature, Tornado or Harricane. Weather conditions in your Japa destination can cause sudden emergency situations. It can sometimes cause a whole city to be evacuated.

6.) No Racism:

Truth remains that after you Japa, you and your family will at one point experience both subtle and harsh discrimination based on your skin color or accent and you will never integrate into the Western society not even in a million years. Black Americans that japaed 400yrs ahead of you are yet to be fully integrated and accepted, I don't know who is motivating you that you will be accepted fully or that your own case will be different.

7.) Nigeria Better On Raising Cultured Kids:

If as a Nigerian, you are cautious of how your kids will be raised, you better stay back home, because in the West, your kids doesn't belong to you. They belongs to the government and authorities there are free to teach and instill any idealogy they deem necessary. So don't be shocked if your 7yrs old son are taught how to switch gender or pronoun at school and given free lgtv literature with erotic images.

8.) Nigeria Better On Entertainment And Fun Activities:

You can fall into depression abroad due to loneliness and stress from doing multiple jobs but not in Nigeria. With little money in Nigeria, you can go partying and balling till dawn day in day out. You fit die onto enjoyment.

9.) No Weird Or Crazy New Culture:

Abroad will humble a deeply religious person who is against homosexuality to work as a caregiver for gay couples. You will be forced to embrace trans and gay people, feminism and made to reject polygamy. I doubt if men have rights in the West. You risk losing everything to a woman, this don't only apply to your wife. Even your long-term girlfriend who you are cohabiting with, can be given a share of assets after a breakup by the court. If a random woman accuses you of rape, the system will already treat you as a convict. I recently observed that premier league captain band is now decorated with pride colors (lgtv flag) to support the community. And you know what awaits any player that openly criticizes it or refuses to wear the band. He risk getting cancelled and he should kiss his footballing career a goodbye. They will use his punishment as deterrent to others. All these new crazy woke policies and behaviors are not practiced in Nigeria.

10.) Cost Of Living Is Cheaper:

Thousands of Americans and EU citizens are retiring like kings in South East Asia and South America ie Thailand, Indonesia, Mexico, Chile etc. You can look it up. Not that they don't love their home countries but because they are excaping the high cost of living in the West. Accommodation, transportation, education, local foods etc are still cheaper in Nigeria. The amount you will paid on a match-box apartment in London or New York can fetch you a year rent of 2bedrooms flat in a good location in any major Nigerian city.

11.) No Rat Race Or Extreme Taxation In Nigeria:

You will labour abroad for a month and the rigged system will use "high taxation, high cost of living and the scam credit system" to return everything back to the system in order for you to repeat the circle again. In a bid not to go homeless on the cold streets, and also to put food on your table, you have no other option than to keep repeating the circle until the time you will finish your term of slavery due to old age, then your children will start where you stopped and the circle continues.
Truth is, the entire world is controlled by the globalists in the West, the further away you're from the West and it's entanglements the freer you will become. If the 1% elite in the West removes the rigging in the system you will be able to secure enough bags and retire early. But they stands to lose if people starts excaping the system early, they need your manpower for longer period of time to maintain their industries and establishments. This explains why the more income you earn there, the more rediculous taxes you pays because the system is continously gauging you and the tax system (one of it's tools of control) is strictly and heavily guided, defaulters risks jail term. The system was programmed in a way that you will never get enough in order not for you to start thinking of excaping the slave camp early until you finish your term of slavery.
This is one of reasons why rich and exposed Nigerians don't fancy living abroad. Even most African ex-footballers returns home immediately after the end of their career in Europe. An average Nigerian coming from lack, hunger and extreme poverty and who is daydreaming of Japa won't be able to see this anomaly. Living in Nigeria will provide you the opportunity to excape Matrix.

Patiently awaiting a counter thread on 22 reasons to japa and never look back.

The writer is on drugs.

santaclaws:
Not a bad idea to have a contrary opinion on Japa, but your claim that Nigerians youths moving to other countries is an act of cowardice is definitely an unreasonable statement.

You didn't take into account that so many people have been struggling in this country even before the economic issues. A lot don't have jobs in Nigeria despite being graduates and most employed people are underpaid.

If the youths aren't cowards, they should stay over and allow visionless politicians, poverty and hyperinflation ruin their lives? Or betterstill, they should take up arms and challenge the government so that they can die for nothing... 😒

The black and migrants are discriminated against and underpaid......a PhD holder doing a care job, security job, working As an assistant in a local restaurant in the UK......some resigned from career jobs (with their qualifications and experience) doing these casual jobs....what do you call these ?

By that point number 1, I believe the Op is multimillionaire

I guess u have listened to propaganda lies online..


Who told u all citizens in Canada and the likes are employed??

Who told u all citizens over there are richer than Nigerian citizen??

Who told u all their citizens have a home and feed 3 square meal as u claim??

Lifeinlight:
What i paid to japa shouldn't be your concern. It is a sacrifice for my entire generation till thy kingdom come. I will birth citizens that your corrupt leaders also uses our resources to buy for themselves and families

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that can't afford ordinary 3 square meal?

Tell me the level of US or Canada graduates that are jobless like Nigerian graduates after school?

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that cannot afford just a bag of rice like millions of Nigerians?

Tell me which US or Canada residents be it citizens or not that their government has rendered useless to the extent that the only option left is cyber fraud popularly known as Yahoo Yahoo as we have most average Nigerians youths indulge in?

Please tell me if US or Canada leaders earn more than Nigerian leaders and what is the HDI of those countries compare to Nigeria?

Go to the villages, communities in nigeria and see how people are suffering over there... poverty hunger hardship... no development..with 10 trillion naira allocated to the LGA areas for the last 5 years...so you do not know what you are saying

Japa is only for the ignorant and uninformed, senselessly following the bandwagon. All this UK and Canada have been flooded with immigrants and the quality of lives have severely deteriorated, you don't even want to know what the citizens of those countries think of you and your japa nonsense.

Concerning insecurity...to travel by road even in day time nowadays is risky.. passengers travel with fear... kidnapping on the roads you are travelling on

kazyhm:
The black and migrants are discriminated against and underpaid......a PhD holder doing a care job in the UK......a resigned bank staff (with his qualifications and experience) doing delivery job....what do you call these ?

You all really mention the UK as if it's the only country on earth LOL. . . How many PhD holders have you seen doing care jobs? Please mention 2 that you know personally, not "they said". 😂😸

If you see any PhD holder doing care work, it's by choice and very temporary.

Thank you very much for these salient points you raised,a friend who went to school in UK told me that Nigerian mentality about Japan is a different one back home...He gave me a few cases that I began to pity those individuals concerned.... it's hard and terrible situations,he concluded that it's easier to make it in 9ja if one carries same energy with the one abroad...the conclusion is that many of the japa would later admit to those facts but possibly may have been too late... Though our leaders are bad but we lack true patriotism in Nigeria

Lifeinlight:
keep decieving yourself and your likes 😂
Your country is a 3rd world nation and you can't compare it to a developed nation in all facets

I don't talk to people who don't have any sense at all. When you travel out of Africa, you can come and talk to me. I bet you haven't even visited Ghana sef. Ozuor

You have stated all your reasons but you did address the main reason why people Japa. Is there job for them in Nigeria.
Do they have prophecy to develop there God given talent in a sane environment.
Is there any chance that they can be guaranteed the basic needs of life.
What is the worth of their life if they remain in the country.
Last but not the least can there vote ever count in this country.

Out of 11 only 4 point is genuine...


We move.

OP, you're MADDD! Very MADDD!

santaclaws:
You all really mention UK as if it's the only country on earth LOL. . . How many PhD holders have you seen doing care jobs? Please mention 2 that you know personally, not "they said"...

If you see any PhD holder doing a care work, it's their fault.

Lol...I have family members in the UK, US, Canada and Australia...... I'm not a novice.

The most meaningless thing I have read in 2023