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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Cryptophaz: 1:14am On Dec 29, 2023
Here is why Jehovah's Witnesses can Now keep Beard

It is very important you know why

Check it out here

https://bibleteach.com.ng/does-jehovahs-witnesses-keep-a-beard/
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by johnw47: 11:50pm On Jan 05, 2024
Janosky:
Your Churchpreneurs
Your Churchpreneurs
your 3 deities
your Pastorpreneurs
cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Janosky: grin grin
Churchpreneurs
your 3 deities.
grin grin
Janosky:
your Pastorpreneurs
your 3 deities grin grin grin
Janosky: your Pastorpreneurs
your 3 deities?
grin grin grin
your Churchpreneurs
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Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

name some of emusan's pastorpreneurs and some of sparrows pastorpreneurs

you can't stop lying just like the devil:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

and of course you love to forever blaspheme The Father and The Son and The Holy Spirit
calling them 3 deities/3 gods:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by grandstar(m): 12:38pm On Jan 07, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It's due to Western culture!
Most of our brothers look up to the appearance of brothers living in our bethel homes and members of the Governing Body that they don't wear beards, this is because for some decades wearing beards has been view as indecent in the Western culture while the East takes it as a crime for men to shave their beards.
Brothers in the Eastern world like Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and other Arab countries finds it difficult to walk freely in their communities so letters keep rolling in on this matter that's why the Governing Body have to address it.
Now Kalid in Iran can walk freely in his area without being ostracized as an infidel while i and other JWs throughout the world still view him as a responsible brother in our spiritual family.

May you have PEACE! smiley
You're wasting your time correcting many of these people.

The explanation given in the video is detailed and comprehensive enough If you listen with an open mind.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Janosky: 1:43pm On Jan 07, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. Exodus 20:5

Learn from the highlighted! wink
Emusan, Achorladey "children are innocent" mantra no need Exodus 20:5 in their own Bibles.

Their own Mumu mantra supercede their own Bibles.
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey:
Janosky:
Emusan, Achorladey "children are innocent" mantra no need Exodus 20:5 in their own Bibles.

Their own Mumu mantra supercede their own Bibles.
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I know your werey peddling brains remains active after being upgraded from mumu and no get sense peddling. I repeat children are innocent. To prove your brains are indeed dormant from werey and mumu peddlings, show word for word in that account in Exodus 20:5 where it was written children are not innocent.

You dont know the bigger problem you throw yourself into with that account until I start packing Watchtowers into your werey peddling brains regarding that account. Looooool!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Janosky: 2:17pm On Jan 07, 2024
achorladey:
I know your werey peddling brains remains active after being upgraded from mumu and no get sense peddling. I repeat children are innocent. To prove your brains are indeed dormant from werey and mumu pethat ddlings, show word for word in that account in Exodus 20:5 where it is written children are not innocent.

You dont know the bigger problem you throw yourself into with that account until I start packing Watchtowers into your werey peddling brains regarding that account. Looooool!
Exodus 20:5
New International Version
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"

Exodus 20:5 is the evidence
Achorladey Mumu
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey:
Janosky:
Exodus 20:5
New International Version
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"

Exodus 20:5 is the evidence
Achorladey Mumu
grin grin grin grin
reset your werey peddling brains with of JANOSKY CHILDREN WHO HATE JEHOVAH? Loooooool!

Jehovah will help your werey peddling brains upgraded from mumu and no get sense peddling to understand that. Come back with NWT version of that account.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Emusan(m): 2:45pm On Jan 07, 2024
Janosky:
Emusan, Achorladey "children are innocent" mantra no need Exodus 20:5 in their own Bibles.

Their own Mumu mantra supercede their own Bibles.
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Well, giving you Bible study is a task for we the followers of Christ.

Yes! God will visit the iniquity of the father on their children but that doesn't mean the Children are not innocent.

Even your deluded organisation put it this way as seen in the attached.

So if you don't understand your own organisation, how will you understand God's word?

Scripture says the children are innocent, reason why Jesus says "such are the kingdom of God"

You people have not produced just single verse where God says Children are His enemy.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Emusan(m): 2:51pm On Jan 07, 2024
Janosky:
Exodus 20:5
New International Version
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me"

Exodus 20:5 is the evidence
Achorladey Mumu
grin grin grin grin
If not because you have big problem with English Language, you could have seen that this verse never claimed children are disobedience to God.

Let me break it down for your dull skull.

1. punishing the children

2. for the sin of the parents

God is punishing them for THE SIN of the parents NOT THEIR OWN SIN.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey: 3:48pm On Jan 07, 2024
Emusan:
If not because you have big problem with English Language, you could have seen that this verse never claimed children are disobedience to God.

Let me break it down for your dull skull.

1. punishing the children

2. for the sin of the parents

God is punishing them for THE SIN of the parents NOT THEIR OWN SIN.
I wonder what is going through that his brain this afternoon to bring that up as evidence that children are not innocent.


The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: “‘The parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

His brains really need lessons this afternoon.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey:
Janosky:
Emusan, Achorladey "children are innocent" mantra no need Exodus 20:5 in their own Bibles.

Their own Mumu mantra supercede their own Bibles.
. grin grin grin grin
Cure your werey peddling brains one more time alongside your cohorts in the business of madness and insanities peddling: MaxInDHouse, Aemmyjah, Cornelboy

2 kings 14. 5 After the kingdom was firmly in his grasp, he executed the officials who had murdered his father the king. 6 Yet DID NOT put the CHILDREN of the assassins to DEATH, in accordance with what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses where the Lord commanded: “Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.”

cc: Emusan
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:31pm On Jan 29, 2024
grandstar:
You're wasting your time correcting many of these people. The explanation given in the video is detailed and comprehensive enough If you listen with an open mind.
With people like you then there's no need responding to apostates! cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by grandstar(m): 8:51pm On Jan 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
With people like you then there's no need responding to apostates! cheesy
Society advises us to ignore and avoid apostates.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:53am On Jan 30, 2024
grandstar:
Society advises us to ignore and avoid apostates.
Thanks so much!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 5:06am On Jan 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks so much!
I have a question
If you can help me
I dunno how to search it on our website or even the watchtower library

I have been really trying to understand why God chose to answer Job using creation and what he made
Job called to question God's righteousness and justice, he felt Jehovah was punishing him
True, Jehovah is not our servant. Who will question the Almighty but the Bible does not say if Job later knew why he faced all those tests. He'll likely know upon resurrection and see Jehovah's wisdom and faith in him
Normally, I reasoned that Jehovah could have told him why he was forcing these tests (But Jehovah owes no one any explanations)... He used creation - thunder, lightning, mountains, hippopotamus, horses, Ox, ostrich, crocodiles - he really asked Job questions like bringing him to a challenge or debate.
I'm not doubting Jehovah way of doing things or the Bible, i am only trying to understand. We are encouraged to seek questions. We are all students though
Thanks
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 5:52am On Jan 30, 2024
Emusan:
If not because you have big problem with English Language, you could have seen that this verse never claimed children are disobedience to God.

Let me break it down for your dull skull.

1. punishing the children

2. for the sin of the parents

God is punishing them for THE SIN of the parents NOT THEIR OWN SIN.
That's where your misunderstanding comes in
Why not humble yourself and seek better understanding?
God will not use the sin of the father to punish sons or future generations. That's unrighteousness and even in our imperfect world, they don't punish the child for the atrocity of the parent. Will Jehovah punish the blameless ones for the sins of the parents when He himself gave such command that a parent should not be put to death for the sins of the children and the children should not be put to death for the sins of the parents. Is that not hypocritical? There is a King in the Bible who was so bad that Jehovah was determined to destroy him and his wicked household but only one child, was to go to his grave in peace, he won't die a violent death cos he was innocent. I can't recall the king name and the child.

Now, what does the Bible really mean?

Children of wicked people usually take after their parents. We see that severally in the Bible especially by Israel neighbors. Jehovah is lenient, these wicked ones do their thing and think they can get away with it. No, Jehovah is patient and hopes that people will turn to repentance but some do not, they only get worse, God's patience has limit and he will definitely punish them even if the timing of that event should affect future generations, that nation or society must be brought to justice.
For example, the nation of Israel itself became apostate, they did all manner of bad things. Their apostasy actually began after the mistake of Solomon, after the nation became divided and were ruled by stupid kings. They persecuted the prophets, false worship flourished like wild weed, they did all things to dishonor Jehovah and Jehovah kept warning them again and again using different generation of prophets - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Elijah, Elisha, etc. They refused to listen and things became worse. It's is like they were heaping, continuing, multiplying the sins from their fathers (the days of Solomon), until they drew God's wrath upon them in 607 BCE where Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken into exile for 70 years
Similar thing happened to Egypt who held Israel bound for over 400 years. They did not want to let them go, they even gave a decree that all male babies be thrown into the Jordan. When Jehovah punished them with plagues and their army with death in the Red Sea, was God punishing an innocent generation with the sins of the ancestors or for their own sins by following the wicked ways of their fathers, even doing worse?
Similar thing happened to Sodom and Gomorrah, they did not just wake up overnight and became grossly immoral right? We know it's easy to be corrupted and take up bad habits but a deeply corrupted society takes a long time to be that way... Nigeria, as a democratic country is corrupt but the corruption did not start during the democratic era, the military era was corrupt and there was still corruption during the colonial era. How corrupt will Nigeria be in the next 20 years? We visited a court to sign a document with the Commissioner of oaths, he asked for money. I want to stamp some documents at the faculty, I am asked to pay for ordinary stamping ... Sins of our fathers handed over to us and getting worse in our own generation... The Bible says that angels of Jehovah visited Lot and all the men were struggling at Lot's door to sleep with the angels. The Bible adds that it was from small boy to old man . You can imagine a small child fighting with an old man to sleep with someone of the same gender?! omg!!! When God destroyed those cities, he could not endure their nonsense forever, the angels were crying to God against them and God acted. Was he using the sins of their forefathers to destroy them or he was punishing them for the same sins they and their wicked fathers had been doing? they were heaping God's wrath on their heads by multiplying the sins from their fathers.
Now, there are differences between you and Atheists as well as similarities. The difference is that you claim to believe in God and the Bible which they don't. The similarity is that you are both blind, highly arrogant and extremely ignorant. God will not give any wisdom to such people but allow them to continue to stumble and other them mislead others too with their poorly baked teachings and misrepresentation of God and his ways. Those who love God seek to please him and know and teach the truth about him. How are you different from the Pharisees and Sadducees? I now see why MaxInDHouse calls you people disguised atheists and I fully agree with him. This nonsense you are saying gives atheists an upper hand and make weak ones lose more faith in God. Jehovah gives wisdom to the loyal, humble ones ☺. You remind me of Job 3 friends as dem just de misyan nonsense in their yeye debates, dem de misrepresent God make e vex for them. If no be say Job na strong man, e for lose faith. But na Satan send them to Job. If I be your church member, my faith for lose temperature and if I be atheist, I don see point to use against you. Mind yourself. Shoraré o

Cc
Cornelboy
Janosky
MaxInDHouse


Francistown
Kkins25
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 6:22am On Jan 30, 2024
tctrills:
You are not very wise to think that a rapist loves you.
A rapist means to do you evil. A rapist would not attack someone he loves.
If you don't know, rape is evil and anyone seeking to rape your wife means to do you evil. So even from your own definition, you failed.
Again, if you love your enemies so much that you can use weapons against him but then you don't love a rapist who isn't even your enemy and you are prepared to use a weapon against him, that shows you are sick.
Remember, you are commanded to love all men. That includes rapists. So if you can't use weapons in war, you should never touch the man raping your wife.
You should encourage her to turn the other cheek and go the extra round with her rapist.

U de misyan Bible
I love as you de narrate your experience na
Was it your wife or daughter?
How many rounds did you ask the rapist to go?

U de misyan Bible
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 6:36am On Jan 30, 2024
Sakody:
At the bolded, please look at a publication you can still find in their beloved website. It says you need to show respect for a rapist. They even say we must remember that Rapists are humans and need dignity. Why do you think they have serious Child Sexual abuse? Why do you think their past Governing body members have been involved in raping children? Why do you think they protect Pedophiles? Because of this mindset. This publication was deliberately worded this way because of the rampant Child sexual abuse and they were trying to brainwash victims to be sympathetic towards their fellow JW rapists so that they don't report to the authorities. They were also trying to put the blame on victims too.
See this fool
Telling lies and opening several moniker including a female moniker will never add a molecule of peace to an apostate life.

Why not show tctrills all the screenshot or give him the link to that article instead of trying to fool him
If you won't share it, i will

No peace for the apostates wicked, says my God
You're almost as hopeless and the mad people on the street
Your problem is that you had peace, like the Great Apostate did until he left the truth. He keeps pursuing peace but peace deludes him, a roaring lion seeking for something to eat does not have peace
An apostate telling lies to malign Jehovah's people will not have peace.
Many former apostates have turned around and enjoying seasons of refreshing. You just de there.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 6:39am On Jan 30, 2024
tctrills:
So rape seems to be accepted as the JW culture. These guys are more twisted than I thought.
That is a lie
If you have wisdom
You'd have asked him for the link so you can read the article for yourself
A wise person draws his own conclusions not being spoonfed by fools.
Nowhere in thar article did it say a woman should consent to rape. There are experiences there too.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101984128

If you feel lazy to read the entire article, I'll send you all the screenshot
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 6:54am On Jan 30, 2024
tctrills:
This is JW teaching right or has this been updated
Wisdom is really needed
I can tell you where to download it

Lemme give you a personal experience that happened last year
I helped someone to sell some fowls in the market and each time we sell, the neighbors would insult me, throw stone at me and do everything to provoke the customer to leaving, something that would have led to a fight if it were other customers. These are hot headed guys that smoke too much . I just ignored him. He began to threaten me and brought out a machete and pointed towards me. I went somewhere first for few minutes until I was sure he's calm. I walked towards him and said 'Oga, I greet you sir. I don't know what I did to you but you sell your own and I did not talk even if you sell 100, i sell you, you start to do anyhow and threaten me. I may look young to you sir but listen, if you want to insult me, please do if that will make you feel good, it won't take anything away from me. But if you touch me, I will make a call and within 5 minutes, you will see people you have not seen before and they will take you where you have not been. I won't repeat myself again, just continue ". I was not being serious about it, I am not friend with any army man but I have 2 Commissioners numbers and other government officials I can call. The way I dress, speak and conduct myself at the market is not like Agbero. That man later came to greet me, bought me water, shared experiences with me and we joked. We shook hands anytime we pass each other until I stopped the sales.
That's an experience of a peaceable person that applies the Bible in every situation, not some. Our brothers living in places where shooting, crimes and kidnapping are rampant still show peace and don't own weapons whereas clergymen of Christendom and their stooge and shouting to own weapons. Jehovah's people don't fight. We don't follow the crowd
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:14am On Jan 30, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I have been really trying to understand why God chose to answer Job using creation and what he made.
Imagine a landlord who has a gigantic estate he let it out to tenants and the first set of tenants proved to be destructive while he was contemplating a way to send those destructive tenants out of his estate he discovered a good tenant who is making him happy by doing everything within his power to keep his own apartment and surrounding in order then the local government staffs came troubling the occupants because the estate is stinking due to the negligence of most tenants. So the good tenant decided to take his landlord to court with the feeling that his landlord deliberately look away while the local government staffs are giving them trouble in the house including him who has been such an outstanding and reputable tenant.

What do you think the landlord should do?

Well the landlord didn't get annoyed with his good tenant instead he began telling him how he started the foundation of the house, built it and put everything in place for the benefit of whoever finds himself in his estate.

Now to answer your question:

The landlord is doing so to make the troubled tenant understand that for him to have set all these things in place that means he has a good prospect for anyone who finds himself in his estate so he wouldn't just sit back and watch all his effort waste away just like that.

So God used His response to tell Job that whatever virtue Job has it can't be compared to the prospect God had in mind for the earth and it's inhabitants! smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 7:48am On Jan 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Imagine a landlord who has a gigantic estate he let it out to tenants and the first set of tenants proved to be destructive while he was contemplating a way to send those destructive tenants out of his estate he discovered a good tenant who is making him happy by doing everything within his power to keep his own apartment and surrounding in order then the local government staffs came troubling the occupants because the estate is stinking due to the negligence of most tenants. So the good tenant decided to take his landlord to court with the feeling that his landlord deliberately look away while the local government staffs are giving them trouble in the house including him who has been such an outstanding and reputable tenant.

What do you think the landlord should do?

Well the landlord didn't get annoyed with his good tenant instead he began telling him how he started the foundation of the house, built it and put everything in place for the benefit of whoever finds himself in his estate.

Now to answer your question:

The landlord is doing so to make the troubled tenant understand that for him to have set all these things in place that means he has a good prospect for anyone who finds himself in his estate so he wouldn't just sit back and watch all his effort waste away just like that.

So God used His response to tell Job that whatever virtue Job has it can't be compared to the prospect God had in mind for the earth and it's inhabitants! smiley
The highlighted was all I needed to hear
Thank you very much
I'm satisfied now
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Courz:
Aemmyjah:
Bunch of Rubbish
You are not having any peace either as you JWs are being exposed.I thought you said you will never quote me. Is it guilty conscience that is worrying you? Have you ever asked yourself why Child Sexual abuse happens in your Cult and why they cover it up? Have you ever wondered why Your Watchtower will create a publication below and say Rapists should be respected? Is that the quality of a One True Religion? Why are you angry that the whole world has exposed the Rampant Child Sexual abuse in your Cult? BBC and other news media have exposed you people. Is that the quality of a supposed One True Religion? The Bible says Do not take part in Evil but rather expose it. And that's what happening to you JWs. Have you seen the exposure about TB Joshua and how similar he is to your Cult? Your Fellow JW Mad MaxinDhouse even adores TB Joshua. Have you seen how hie disciples act the same way you JWs do when your atrocities are exposed?

Oya, prove to me that this publication below from your JW site is a Lie. Mumu.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Courz: 8:39am On Jan 30, 2024
Aemmyjah:
That is a lie
If you have wisdom
You'd have asked him for the link so you can read the article for yourself
A wise person draws his own conclusions not being spoonfed by fools.
Nowhere in thar article did it say a woman should consent to rape. There are experiences there too.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101984128

If you feel lazy to read the entire article, I'll send you all the screenshot
Fornicator Aemmyjah, your eyes are for decoration abi? You can see the link directly from your JW site from the screenshot below. So, you know this article exists and you are calling me a Liar like the Idiot that you are. Mumu, why is Watchtower in support of Rapists and why are they saying that you should show Respect for them if truly they are against Rape? So, when a JW Rapes your child, will you show respect for the rapist? Prove to us that Child Sexual Abuse doesn't happen in JW.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:05am On Jan 30, 2024
Aemmyjah:
The highlighted was all I needed to hear
Thank you very much
I'm satisfied now
You're welcome brother! smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by tctrills: 9:34am On Jan 30, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Wisdom is really needed
I can tell you where to download it

Lemme give you a personal experience that happened last year
I helped someone to sell some fowls in the market and each time we sell, the neighbors would insult me, throw stone at me and do everything to provoke the customer to leaving, something that would have led to a fight if it were other customers. These are hot headed guys that smoke too much . I just ignored him. He began to threaten me and brought out a machete and pointed towards me. I went somewhere first for few minutes until I was sure he's calm. I walked towards him and said 'Oga, I greet you sir. I don't know what I did to you but you sell your own and I did not talk even if you sell 100, i sell you, you start to do anyhow and threaten me. I may look young to you sir but listen, if you want to insult me, please do if that will make you feel good, it won't take anything away from me. But if you touch me, I will make a call and within 5 minutes, you will see people you have not seen before and they will take you where you have not been. I won't repeat myself again, just continue ". I was not being serious about it, I am not friend with any army man but I have 2 Commissioners numbers and other government officials I can call. The way I dress, speak and conduct myself at the market is not like Agbero. That man later came to greet me, bought me water, shared experiences with me and we joked. We shook hands anytime we pass each other until I stopped the sales.
That's an experience of a peaceable person that applies the Bible in every situation, not some. Our brothers living in places where shooting, crimes and kidnapping are rampant still show peace and don't own weapons whereas clergymen of Christendom and their stooge and shouting to own weapons. Jehovah's people don't fight. We don't follow the crowd
Please can you remind me what the topic was in the first place? It seems some of you guys have this incredible ability of bringing up topics that have already been over flogged. I can bet that if I engaged you, we would end up repeating the same things we said to each other last year.

If you have any topic you want us to address, I will be interested but when you dig up old and forgotten topics, I don't feel too willing to go back and start reading up just to remember what we were discussing.

In short, I am suggesting that we start on a clean sheet. Raise a topic and invite me to participate.
Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 11:27am On Jan 30, 2024
tctrills:
Please can you remind me what the topic was in the first place? It seems some of you guys have this incredible ability of bringing up topics that have already been over flogged. I can bet that if I engaged you, we would end up repeating the same things we said to each other last year.

If you have any topic you want us to address, I will be interested but when you dig up old and forgotten topics, I don't feel too willing to go back and start reading up just to remember what we were discussing.

In short, I am suggesting that we start on a clean sheet. Raise a topic and invite me to participate.
Thanks.
I addressed the matter I read at the time
I hope you checked the link and were able to see the facts yourself about the rape stuff
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Emusan(m):
You wake up from wrong side of the bed and you want to vent your frustration on innocent person.

Aemmyjah:
That's where your misunderstanding comes in
And your delusion compounded after

Why not humble yourself and seek better understanding?
The usual statement from a deluded person.

Had it been you take this your advice for once, you won't be following those gods in Warwick.

God will not use the sin of the father to punish sons or future generations.
Well God is not a liar like you.

You can reject God's Word but God's Word will never change.

Everyone knows it is written that Exodus 20:5 that "You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me."

Reason why your own organisation made the statement in below screenshot.

So, any how you want to spin it, CHILDREN are INNOCENT and not ENEMY OF GOD as your gods in Warwick put it that's the point here.

That's unrighteousness and even in our imperfect world, they don't punish the child for the atrocity of the parent. Will Jehovah punish the blameless ones for the sins of the parents when He himself gave such command that a parent should not be put to death for the sins of the children and the children should not be put to death for the sins of the parents. Is that not hypocritical? There is a King in the Bible who was so bad that Jehovah was determined to destroy him and his wicked household but only one child, was to go to his grave in peace, he won't die a violent death cos he was innocent. I can't recall the king name and the child.
See how you're displaying your ignorance.

The point here is not that God will "PUT PEOPLE TO DEATH..." for the sins of their parents but VISIT/PUNISH THEM.

Even your organisation teaches that people suffer the consequences of the sins of others.

We're suffering for what Adam did in the garden till now.

So you can see how your lying mouth is being exposed.

[s]Now, what does the Bible really mean?

Children of wicked people usually take after their parents. We see that severally in the Bible especially by Israel neighbors. Jehovah is lenient, these wicked ones do their thing and think they can get away with it. No, Jehovah is patient and hopes that people will turn to repentance but some do not, they only get worse, God's patience has limit and he will definitely punish them even if the timing of that event should affect future generations, that nation or society must be brought to justice.
For example, the nation of Israel itself became apostate, they did all manner of bad things. Their apostasy actually began after the mistake of Solomon, after the nation became divided and were ruled by stupid kings. They persecuted the prophets, false worship flourished like wild weed, they did all things to dishonor Jehovah and Jehovah kept warning them again and again using different generation of prophets - Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, Elijah, Elisha, etc. They refused to listen and things became worse. It's is like they were heaping, continuing, multiplying the sins from their fathers (the days of Solomon), until they drew God's wrath upon them in 607 BCE where Jerusalem was destroyed and the Jews were taken into exile for 70 years
Similar thing happened to Egypt who held Israel bound for over 400 years. They did not want to let them go, they even gave a decree that all male babies be thrown into the Jordan. When Jehovah punished them with plagues and their army with death in the Red Sea, was God punishing an innocent generation with the sins of the ancestors or for their own sins by following the wicked ways of their fathers, even doing worse?
Similar thing happened to Sodom and Gomorrah, they did not just wake up overnight and became grossly immoral right? We know it's easy to be corrupted and take up bad habits but a deeply corrupted society takes a long time to be that way... Nigeria, as a democratic country is corrupt but the corruption did not start during the democratic era, the military era was corrupt and there was still corruption during the colonial era. How corrupt will Nigeria be in the next 20 years? We visited a court to sign a document with the Commissioner of oaths, he asked for money. I want to stamp some documents at the faculty, I am asked to pay for ordinary stamping ... Sins of our fathers handed over to us and getting worse in our own generation... The Bible says that angels of Jehovah visited Lot and all the men were struggling at Lot's door to sleep with the angels. The Bible adds that it was from small boy to old man . You can imagine a small child fighting with an old man to sleep with someone of the same gender?! omg!!! When God destroyed those cities, he could not endure their nonsense forever, the angels were crying to God against them and God acted. Was he using the sins of their forefathers to destroy them or he was punishing them for the same sins they and their wicked fathers had been doing? they were heaping God's wrath on their heads by multiplying the sins from their fathers.[/s]
Absolutely rubbish and out of point.

To the thrash!

Now, there are differences between you and Atheists as well as similarities. The difference is that you claim to believe in God and the Bible which they don't. The similarity is that you are both blind, highly arrogant and extremely ignorant.
I don't know what caused this your early frustration but whatever it is, just know that you pick the wrong battle.

Well maybe you were defeated by the Atheists in your own thread, just imagine he even tag them here grin cheesy cheesy

The similarity between you and atheists is the ability to lie against God and deny His Word.

God will not give any wisdom to such people but allow them to continue to stumble and other them mislead others too with their poorly baked teachings and misrepresentation of God and his ways.
At least we know who is denying God's Word and making God to be a liar here.

If God's word says God will visit the iniquity of the parents on their Children and even your organisation agree with this, definitely it's you who misrepresented God and lie against Him.

Those who love God seek to please him and know and teach the truth about him.
But you don't seek and speak TRUTH about God.

How are you different from the Pharisees and Sadducees?
Definitely JWs are the Pharisees and Sadducees of today because of their hatred for the TRUTH and God's Word.

I now see why MaxInDHouse calls you people disguised atheists and I fully agree with him.
Birds of the same feather flock together.

This nonsense you are saying gives atheists an upper hand and make weak ones lose more faith in God. Jehovah gives wisdom to the loyal, humble ones ☺. You remind me of Job 3 friends as dem just de misyan nonsense in their yeye debates, dem de misrepresent God make e vex for them. If no be say Job na strong man, e for lose faith. But na Satan send them to Job.
At least we see how your beautiful thread make those Atheists love Jehovah. cheesy grin cheesy grin

If I be your church member, my faith for lose temperature
My church members don't lie against God and His Word. So we can't be the same.

and if I be atheist, I don see point to use against you.

Francistown
Kkins25
Of course you're a disguise Atheists who never believe anything about God Himself.

Reason why you tag them.

Mind yourself. Shoraré o
I know what leads to this, just allow God to have His way in your life and all your frustration will disappear.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by tctrills: 1:26pm On Jan 30, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I addressed the matter I read at the time
I hope you checked the link and were able to see the facts yourself about the rape stuff
If you addressed the matter at the time, then I don't see a need for this. I have been too busy to check the links but you can tell me what it's all about as I have not gone back to read what our discussion was about.
Please give me so background so I can get to speed
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Aemmyjah(m): 3:33pm On Jan 30, 2024
tctrills:
If you addressed the matter at the time, then I don't see a need for this. I have been too busy to check the links but you can tell me what it's all about as I have not gone back to read what our discussion was about.
Please give me so background so I can get to speed
No wam
About the rape thing
I wish you read the whole article yourself
The part you saw that said the intended victims should remember that rapists are human, it did not mean they should give in to them. That will be actually fornication. It meant how these women should address them so their words don't even create more problems for them. There are 2 different experiences there. Both preached to the rapists, neither were raped, neither consented, both prayed, one screamed when the rapist tried to use force. It's better you see the article than allow that phony liar fool you...
Since it's already a dead topic, forgive me pls but don't be misled by a liar
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey: 3:48pm On Jan 30, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
With people like you then there's no need responding to apostates! cheesy
The itchy fingers typing madness and insanities peddling from your brains won't allow that. The reason you want to run away from the consequences of your insanities and madness peddling on nairaland regarding post to those you call apostates grin grin grin grin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey: 3:51pm On Jan 30, 2024
grandstar:
Society advises us to ignore and avoid apostates.
This one still dey use society grin grin grin. Your GODS of men housed in USA will tell you to avoid apostates yet your Jehovah, your Jesus, the prophets e.g Jeremiah and Co. of old never avoid delivering message to apostates in times past. grin grin grin.
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