| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by femi4: 11:31am On Feb 18 |
Procashtips:
Sorry? Which of the write up too big for you to comprehend |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Sleekfingers: 11:31am On Feb 18 |
Antiislaam:
Slave, it is beyond your understanding. This place is not jannah where you'll be having sex galore with your 72 virgins in which that thing called Allah will be watching you fuccking your houris I believe you know that Allah means God in Arabic |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 11:33am On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. Can you briefly describe how sperm and egg from a man and woman give birth to bones in a new born child  ?? Until you answer this, you will not understand anything about God , God does not have any concern for you to have a perfect view of him...lols 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Eneyeme6453: 11:34am On Feb 18 |
G00dharddick:
Dear Seun
Why can everyone comment on a Christian thread but one cannot comment on a Muslim thread without asking to be converted to Islam? serious and very important question |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Jomonix: 11:36am On Feb 18 |
ERCROSS:
My fellow atheist, it's wisdom to question things if they don't make sense. Been there, done that.
But I quitted atheism when I realize that spirituality is real and science has not been able to take us into this dimension.
The same way the behavior of particles in the quantum dimension deviates from the norm we are used to, so also, the laws and working of the spiritual realm would most likely not conform to our expectations.
Till science is able to give us a sneak-peak into the spiritual world, your questions may not prove much helpful for your spiritual being Scientific knowledge can never take us to the dimensions of the spiritual. The furthest limits of scientific discovery will always be below and inferior to spiritual dimension. But spiritual dimensions do exist tangibly. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Quebec91(m): 11:37am On Feb 18 |
 AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Bliztzer: 11:39am On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. A layman explanation. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Quebec91(m): 11:39am On Feb 18 |
Advise God indeed. 🤣🤣🤣 Fuñny you Bluezy13:
The Elders are the wise counsel who advise god and deliberate on heavenly and earthly matters of utmost importance.
You know, just like the elders in movies who surround the king/emperor.
If they do not advise god, God will make a mistake and his rulership will be messed up.
Hehehe...look at how I am able to concoct a story that fits into the picture. I should start a church...  or better still, my own religion.
After all, everything is a fairytale. |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by timota(m): 11:42am On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?c
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. Jesus is not deputy to God the father ,Jesus is God the word and he is 100 percent equal with the father ,he only took a demotion to become Jesus for the sake of salvation,but presently he is God the word, So God the father,God the word and God the holy spirit are equal. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by kushe: 11:44am On Feb 18 |
As Christians,there is nothing to prove.
Violence or arguments is not part of our way of life. If you don't like the presentation of the real Jesus,you can do with the information whatever you like.
Afterall, Jesus presented himself to the world and most were highly irritated while some followed him. He told them who he was and why he had come but they judged him and brought him to be judged by a heathen leader he had created and given breath. They mocked,spat at him,whipped him and placed a crown of thorns on his head.
Drained of his physical strength,they made him drag a heavy log nailed together to form a cross through the crowded streets so more people could mock the self professed messiah.
Believe what you may and be free to say whatever about Jesus or his documented word but I have a word for every none believer.
When you close your eyes in death,for the sake of your eternal abode,you had better never experience consciousness again. If for any reason you realize you are dead,you are in trouble cause then the reality of life after death will hit you.
Those that reject Jesus on this side of eternity will face him as judge on the other side. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by ezegenigbonine: 11:46am On Feb 18 |
hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?
it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth
The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?
If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.
Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.
Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.
To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??" Ignorant man. So what do you believe? 1 Like |
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| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by HopeGying: 11:48am On Feb 18 |
What an intellectual and philosophical input that only those with high IQ will relate. Double thumbs up! |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Mikespecialone(m): 11:51am On Feb 18 |
G00dharddick:
Dear Seun
Why can everyone comment on a Christian thread but one cannot comment on a Muslim thread without asking to be converted to Islam? To bad |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Manuelmarvyy(m): 11:53am On Feb 18 |
G00dharddick:
Dear Seun
Why can everyone comment on a Christian thread but one cannot comment on a Muslim thread without asking to be converted to Islam? @Seun can you answer this? |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by APOSTLECHUMA: 11:58am On Feb 18 |
THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH OF GOD WAS BUILT UPON THE DOCTRINES OF THE TWELVE APOSTLES, WHILE THE OLD TESTAMENT CHURCH WAS BUILT UPON THAT OF THE TWELVE PATRIACHS. THE 24 ELDERS IN HEAVEN ARE SIMPLY THE 12 APOSTLES AND THE 12 PATRIACHS UPON WHOSE TEACHINGS, GOD BUILT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT CHURCHES AND NO MAN HAS THE RIGHT TO ADD TO THE FOUNDATION THEY LAID. cfountainoftruth@yahoo.com 07054142412 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 12:04pm On Feb 18 |
Sleekfingers:
I believe you know that Allah means God in Arabic The God of Christians and that of Muslims are never the same... God can't be complete without the TRINITY....... If you recognize Jesus Christ as born miraculously and even promoted him to a Prophet of Allah in Quran, why turn your back on his teachings? Why reject his death that brought fought the Holy Spirit ? Which completes the Trinity in God .....lols Why will you believe the teachings of a carnal man as the way to Allah ( God) but turn away from that of the Christian's ( Jesus Christ)? Who your source of teachings and knowledge ( Quran) praises and worship as not an ordinary Prophet As a way to condemnation Arabic can say Allah means God, but does not go on to emphasize how ... |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Masco2006: 12:08pm On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. Do worry Mr Lucifer, when you go to Aljanna you will be fucking 72 virgin's. Masha Allah 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Sleekfingers: 12:10pm On Feb 18 |
ArcSEMPECJ:
The God of Christians and that of Muslims are never the same...
God can't be complete without the TRINITY.......
If you recognize Jesus Christ as born miraculously and even promoted him to a Prophet of Allah in Quran, why turn your back on his teachings?
Why reject his death that brought fought the Holy Spirit? Which completes the Trinity in God.....lols
Why will you believe the teachings of a carnal man as the way to Allah ( God) but turn away from that of the Christian's ( Jesus Christ)? Who your source of teachings and knowledge ( Quran) praises and worship as not an ordinary Prophet As a way to condemnation
Arabic can say Allah means God, but does not go on to emphasize how ...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This one needs a psychiatric evaluation |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Lawag3: 12:12pm On Feb 18 |
Bluezy13:
Christianity itself is a joke.
Allow that fellow to express himself. Explain the jokes about Christianity? |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by alabo1: 12:14pm On Feb 18 |
OKOATA:
These are the authorities; their decision affect all the creations of Ahavah (God), Shafat leads them.
The 24 Elders are the only beings with free will that are under no law. Ahavah made them in the way that naturally they will humble themselves before him.
They were the first living created-creatures/intelligence having a human-like appearance, and they are all males; none of them looks like a woman. In their natural state, their skin are pure-white (like a snow) and have no glowing effect.
However, unlike other creatures of Ahavah, the 24 Elders have no wings or any form of beastly nature. They only have one natural appearance; which is the one they were created and they live at Meltsar;
Members of the 24 Elders are:
Shafat is the leader of The 24 Elders
Another fairy tale. The fact that even intelligent people believe these fables never ceases to amaze me
AMAN, AMATS, ANAH (Bald Headed), BERAKAH, CHEN, CHESED, EMUNAH, GADOL (He is second tallest Elder after Yakach), HADAR, HUPOMONE, KOACH (He is fat, hefty and strong), OSHER, QARA, SHALOM, SIMCHAH, TAHOR, TIPHARAH (He is the most handsome Elder), TIQVAH, TSALACH, TUB, YAKACH ( He is the tallest Elder), YASHAR.
AHAVAH (to all the Elders) I have in you my wisdom, intelligence, and power. You shall have the right to discuss and have meetings with or without my knowledge; moreover, you shall glorify me forever.
Look around yourselves; I place you on wealth, authority, power and all my Kingdoms. (smiles) Boqer is the only star dwelling in Shamayim, I love Boqer and I have kept the POWER OF ORDER with her. Power of Order belongs to me.
You must not touch it, for whoever takes it shall die and perish in Yam-Esh Forever. (smiles) Nevertheless, I know you will never turn against me because I AM LOVE, and peace I give to you. Your praises shall ascend to me forever and you shall govern my cities.
ALL THE ELDERS (off their crowns and fall their faces to the ground. Their garments become whiter as snow and glow. They say in unison) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure, they are and were created. Ahavah then smiles. Shafat tries to raise his right hand and his hand shakes, that he is not able to lift it.
SHAFAT (shaky voice) Holy Father; The Living One, Blessed is your name forever! Please forgive us, for we are troubled at the strength of your presence, if only you can make us survive without trembling in your presence, we shall live, else we perish in your sight. Ahavah closes his eyes and slightly faces down nodding his head, and the screen before him closes.
Then the bright light that was above the Elders goes off. The sky changes back to a big hall in Meltsar. {INT. HALL, MELTSAR} A big triangular table appears before the Elders, they pants while on the ground.
After a while, the Elders begin to stand-up one after the other, wear their crowns and sit on their chairs around the table before them. Their natural skins are as white as snow (pure white powder-like) without having a glowing effect. |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Lawag3: 12:15pm On Feb 18 |
geoworldedu:
Don't blame Seun, blame God and Jesus who have allowed us to mock them so much to the extent that their heavenly preeqs couldn't even stand erect to perform their duties like before. I could remember when God was still active, he would have struck me dead before I even mock his holy name at all. But now it's like he is being caged as Otem said, or why can't he do me anything since all these years I have been mocking his holy name. Like Elijah said and I quote, if your god cannot send down fire, it means he is either in a marriage party or he is deaf or lame or blind that he cannot see. Perhaps he has stroke that he cannot take action. Or maybe he's even dead sef, who knows?
I hereby stand as another Elijah today and dare God to send down fire to strike me if indeed he is still alive. He should do this within 7 days, or else I will just take him for a dead meat.  I pray he leaves you alive so you'll come here and testify. |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Innobee99(m): 12:15pm On Feb 18 |
hopefulLandlord:
The idea of heaven is so stupid I wonder how people believe it lol
The Bible doesn't say much about what heaven is supposed to be like. Most of the claims about heaven are exaggerations of the Bible. The Bible says the Gates are made of pearl. What are the gates for? Are they made just as an excuse to irritate clams? Are the gates supposed to keep someone out or to keep souls from escaping?
it also says the streets are paved with gold but the only reason we actually like gold so much and we attach such values to it is because they are rare and difficult to extract. Gold is malleable and can be formed as needed for use in, among others, electronics, dentistry, medical tools, and the defense, aerospace, and automotive industries. Gold is durable and noncorrosive. However gold shouldn't be valuable at all in heaven unless we'd still need to use gold for those things in heaven too which actually makes heaven just another version of earth
The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?
If life matters to me now, it will always have mattered to me, even when I am gone. Death cannot change that.
Your best hope is to be locked in a gold cage with your memories of having an actual life being erased just so you can kiss ass for eternity.
Life is pleasant, death is serene. The transition might be troublesome but we all have to go through it. You shouldn't fear death so much. Heaven and hell are imaginary. You should reject the indoctrination. Life is much better that way.
To quote a friend: "Heaven's supposed to be this really great place, right? So how come a third of the angels got pissed off??" E go still shock u one day 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by musicwriter(m): 12:19pm On Feb 18 |
Spectators:
You've been deceived by religion!! Elders sitting around the throne of God is an ancient Egyptian concept that's over 5,000 years older than Judaism and Christianity but which was plagiarized by Christianity. The Egyptians left us a proof in the Hunefer papyrus (drawing on ancient paper) which was stolen by Britain and now housed at the British museum of stolen artefacts. Sometimes it's shown as 10 elders, 12 elders, etc. That's where Christianity got it from. See below. Note: from LEFT up- the first person is Hunefer, a dead person seeking to enter the kingdom of God. The second person is Horus- as you can see in the picture, he's the gateway to God without whom you cannot see God. He was called the way, truth and life. No one can see the father (Osiris) without him. The third person behind Horus is Osiris (God) The rest of the 12 are elders 5 Likes 1 Share 
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| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by APOSTLECHUMA: 12:19pm On Feb 18 |
geoworldedu:
Don't blame Seun, blame God and Jesus who have allowed us to mock them so much to the extent that their heavenly preeqs couldn't even stand erect to perform their duties like before. I could remember when God was still active, he would have struck me dead before I even mock his holy name at all. But now it's like he is being caged as Otem said, or why can't he do me anything since all these years I have been mocking his holy name. Like Elijah said and I quote, if your god cannot send down fire, it means he is either in a marriage party or he is deaf or lame or blind that he cannot see. Perhaps he has stroke that he cannot take action. Or maybe he's even dead sef, who knows?
I hereby stand as another Elijah today and dare God to send down fire to strike me if indeed he is still alive. He should do this within 7 days, or else I will just take him for a dead meat. MY BROTHER WE ARE IN THE TIME OF GRACE, THAT IS WHY HE HAS BEEN SHOWING YOU MERCY. THE SECOND REASON WHY HE HAS NOT STRUCK YOU DEAD IS THAT HE NEED NOT WASTE HIS POWER ON A DEAD WALKING CORPSE. ORDINARY OXYGEN YOU DEPEND ON TO LIVE DAILY COMES FREE FROM HIM AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT HIM, HE WILL DESPATCH THE DEMONS OF CANCER, TB, STROKE ETC TO KISS U AS YOU WAKE UP FROM SLEEP ONE MORNING AND THAT WILL BE IT. FROM THEM ON, YOU WILL SEEK HIS FACE AND HE WIL TURN HIS BACK ON YOU AND DEATH WILL PACK U INTO HIS PRESENCE FOR JUDGEMENT. BE CAREFUL, TAI SOLARIN INSULTED GOD REPEATEDLY BUT THE LAST THING HE SAID WHILE DYING ON HIS SICK BED, WAS GOD HELP ME. HE WAS AN ATHEIST AND DIDNT BELIEVE IN GOD. THE MOMENT HE SHOUTED THAT WAS WHEN DEMONS ENCIRCLED HIM TO LEAD HIM DOWN TO HELL AS HE WAS TRYING TO BREATH HIS LAST BREATH. MANY WHO WALKED THIS WAY BEFORE YOU, ARE IN HELL GNASHING THEIR TEETH. IF YOU ARE SERVING SATAN, SATAN YOUR FATHER BELIEVES IN GOD AND TREMBLES WHEN HIS NAME IS MENTIONED. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by grandstar(m): 12:22pm On Feb 18 |
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| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Blackestjunior(m): 12:28pm On Feb 18 |
godofuck231:
25 elders , christ is the 25th and their chief priest , go and read the real version of your Bible not the one the white man wrote for you So which black man wrote the version you are reading |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by DaFuhrer(m): 12:29pm On Feb 18 |
OKOATA:
These are the authorities; their decision affect all the creations of Ahavah (God), Shafat leads them.
The 24 Elders are the only beings with free will that are under no law. Ahavah made them in the way that naturally they will humble themselves before him.
They were the first living created-creatures/intelligence having a human-like appearance, and they are all males; none of them looks like a woman. In their natural state, their skin are pure-white (like a snow) and have no glowing effect.
However, unlike other creatures of Ahavah, the 24 Elders have no wings or any form of beastly nature. They only have one natural appearance; which is the one they were created and they live at Meltsar;
Members of the 24 Elders are:
Shafat is the leader of The 24 Elders
AMAN, AMATS, ANAH (Bald Headed), BERAKAH, CHEN, CHESED, EMUNAH, GADOL (He is second tallest Elder after Yakach), HADAR, HUPOMONE, KOACH (He is fat, hefty and strong), OSHER, QARA, SHALOM, SIMCHAH, TAHOR, TIPHARAH (He is the most handsome Elder), TIQVAH, TSALACH, TUB, YAKACH ( He is the tallest Elder), YASHAR.
AHAVAH (to all the Elders) I have in you my wisdom, intelligence, and power. You shall have the right to discuss and have meetings with or without my knowledge; moreover, you shall glorify me forever.
Look around yourselves; I place you on wealth, authority, power and all my Kingdoms. (smiles) Boqer is the only star dwelling in Shamayim, I love Boqer and I have kept the POWER OF ORDER with her. Power of Order belongs to me.
You must not touch it, for whoever takes it shall die and perish in Yam-Esh Forever. (smiles) Nevertheless, I know you will never turn against me because I AM LOVE, and peace I give to you. Your praises shall ascend to me forever and you shall govern my cities.
ALL THE ELDERS (off their crowns and fall their faces to the ground. Their garments become whiter as snow and glow. They say in unison) Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure, they are and were created. Ahavah then smiles. Shafat tries to raise his right hand and his hand shakes, that he is not able to lift it.
SHAFAT (shaky voice) Holy Father; The Living One, Blessed is your name forever! Please forgive us, for we are troubled at the strength of your presence, if only you can make us survive without trembling in your presence, we shall live, else we perish in your sight. Ahavah closes his eyes and slightly faces down nodding his head, and the screen before him closes.
Then the bright light that was above the Elders goes off. The sky changes back to a big hall in Meltsar. {INT. HALL, MELTSAR} A big triangular table appears before the Elders, they pants while on the ground.
After a while, the Elders begin to stand-up one after the other, wear their crowns and sit on their chairs around the table before them. Their natural skins are as white as snow (pure white powder-like) without having a glowing effect. Where did you get this?... I would like to know more. |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by DeOTR: 12:30pm On Feb 18 |
Walai:
Can someone remind me when last a topic from Science and Technology section of naira land made frontpage? What stops you from posting for everyone to learn, or your brain on loan? |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Nyanabo(m): 12:32pm On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. Unlike Islam that's has no sure foundation. Rather the copy extracts from all religion of the world mixing it into one. Tueh. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by MichaelSokoto(m): 12:33pm On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. I will report u to Daddy Righteousness2! 
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| Re: Who Are 24 Elders In Heaven According To Bible? by Johilo(m): 12:33pm On Feb 18 |
AntiChristian:
Elders dey worship God in heaven again?
Are they worshipping the father alone or the father plus son or the trinity together cos Jesus will be at the right side separate from his father!
Where will holy spirit be?
A Christian once told me that God is like the President, Jesus, the deputy and the elders like Senate!
So where is the judiciary? Michael and Gabriel right? Lol. don't be a rebel but mocking God and be mindful of what you said concerning heavenly beings |
