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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by SUPERPACK: 10:06pm On Feb 21
Allthelight:
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You can't control the economy by being a dictator. It will fail
Putin have proven this to be false.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by iLegendd(m): 10:14pm On Feb 21
I once wrote a post called The Evil Spirit and the Game of Power and Wealth In Crisis. Read it when you have free time and you won't regret it.

https://www.nairaland.com/7960533/evil-spirit-game-power-wealth

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by twosquare(m): 10:31pm On Feb 21
This is hilarious...look at people erasing their knowledge of how shitcoins work. Please, which currency in the world is not manipulated?

When Naira hits a certain ceiling, there is an expected retrace and retest of certain levels. It is just like the c/oins we trade. And when that dump happens, the cause can be anything from FUD, whales taking profits, or some sell-the-news events...and the naira is not immune to any of these things.

Now, we all know what is happening now falls into one of these categories above. Yes, it will come down and journey back up again. It cannot resist the demand for USD/USDT by the time the bull euphoria eventually and fully kicks in.

Also, the whales will move from Bi/nance to other exchanges they can use for their manipulation or not.

Either way, what is eating our dollar reserves must be addressed squarely.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ThegreatDon: 10:38pm On Feb 21
Is it real that they banned exchange
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by twosquare(m): 10:47pm On Feb 21
Now it is backed at N1600+, and my Glo network can't connect Binance...let me try a VPN.

Some say their MTN does not work...

The Nigerian government and funny stuff. grin grin
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by twosquare(m): 10:51pm On Feb 21
twosquare:
Now it is backed at N1600+, and my Glo network can't connect Binance...let me try a VPN.

Some say their MTN does not work...

The Nigerian government and funny stuff. grin grin
And bam, it opens with VPN, let me wait and see what happens before I conclude.

EDIT: Now 1700
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ayomidan: 10:54pm On Feb 21
twosquare:
And bam, it opens with VPN, let me wait and see what happens before I conclude.

EDIT: Now 1700
What vpn did you use and is it free? I also sensed binance had been blocked, didn't open with mtn
This whole thing looks like a child's play, police & thief of a thing
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by nnekaike(f): 10:56pm On Feb 21
twosquare:
And bam, it opens with VPN, let me wait and see what happens before I conclude.

EDIT: Now 1700
my App is opening smoothly, I use Airtel and spectranet
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by twosquare(m): 10:59pm On Feb 21
nnekaike:
my App is opening smoothly, I use Airtel and spectranet

lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by twosquare(m): 11:01pm On Feb 21
ayomidan:

What vpn did you use and is it free? I also sensed binance had been blocked, didn't open with mtn
This whole thing looks like a child's play, police & thief of a thing
There should be free versions of some VPNs, but you won't get much value coz of change in IP addresses...you may need to research them yourself and choose the one you are comfortable with.

Thanks.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Cupidkc(m): 11:07pm On Feb 21
nnekaike:
my App is opening smoothly, I use Airtel and spectranet

Mine have been opening without any stress at all.
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Owolabi97(m): 11:14pm On Feb 21
ThegreatDon:
Is it real that they banned exchanged
Pls binance app opening from ur side

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ThegreatDon: 11:16pm On Feb 21
Owolabi97:

Pls binance app opening from ur side

It's opening that's why I asked if it's true
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Owolabi97(m): 11:17pm On Feb 21
ThegreatDon:


It's opening that's why I asked if it's true
Are u using vpn cos it not working here

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by fergieboy: 11:21pm On Feb 21
Binance not opening with mtn
But it’s opening with my smile network
Omo make I move my funds go bybits

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by FuckingNaira: 11:21pm On Feb 21
Owolabi97:

Are u using vpn cos it not working here
even mine is not working oo
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ThegreatDon: 11:32pm On Feb 21
Owolabi97:

Are u using vpn cos it not working here
No
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ElasmoBranchii(m): 11:56pm On Feb 21
There is something that I am still trying to understand though. Anybody with the answer should chip in.

Isn't USDT/NGN different from USD/NGN that is traded in the forex market. Since USDT is dependent on USD, shouldn't it be the USD that influences USDT not the other way around. If there is manipulation going on then it's the people trading real dollars that are at the bottom of it cause nobody is using USDT to buy goods. USDT is just used as a means of exchange for crypto. Why would BDCs and other institutions be using the price of a digital asset to influence the price of their physical dollar. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It's not like they can send their dollars to binance and sell on binance because that medium is blocked or do they have a way to bypass it?

The volume of the USDT/NGN traded on binance spot is very low (I'm having problems uploading the photo). The volume shows that about $2.4 million dollars was traded as at the time of this post and during that time there was a strong selling pressure that drove the price down. Does that mean that if I have a $3million buy order now that I want to inject into the market will that effectively revert the price back to 1900? If possible that would mean that if someone caused a volatility like that normally p2p traders will change their price but why would BDCs and other institutions follow suit when they are not trading USDT?

Someone that understands my question and is knowledgeable about this stuff should please explain.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by dvkot(m): 12:01am On Feb 22
Opening fine with mtn... the app is just handling unusual amounts of traffic and even if binance is banned they won't lock up your money but they are not banned
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by onatisi(m): 12:02am On Feb 22
boss i am using mtn and it isnt opening
dvkot:
Opening fine with mtn... the app is just handling unusual amounts of traffic and even if binance is banned they won't lock up your money but they are not banned
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by GRACEGLORY: 12:04am On Feb 22
The abundance of false information out there Christ❗️

Many people will lose a lot of money rather than keeping their cool and finding the truth.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by onatisi(m): 12:11am On Feb 22
it is very simple. crypto has the quantity needed and the banks don't have the USD. so the price of a higher volume market will determine because that is where most people are running to. if there was enough USD in the banks, then no one would even think of crypto. the crypto market rate cant determine the rate of the market if there is enough for everyone in the banks , but since banks dont have the usd , people are rushing to the most available alternative which is crypto usdt.
that brings us to the fundamental question that govt should tackle and face , why is it that banks do not have enough USD? and what does the nation need to do to increase its fx earnings?

ElasmoBranchii:
There is something that I am still trying to understand though. Anybody with the answer should chip in.

Isn't USDT/NGN different from USD/NGN that is traded in the forex market. Since USDT is dependent on USD, shouldn't it be the USD that influences USDT not the other way around. If there is manipulation going on then it's the people trading real dollars that are at the bottom of it cause nobody is using USDT to buy goods. USDT is just used as a means of exchange for crypto. Why would BDC and other institutions be using the price of a digital asset to influence the price of their physical dollar. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It's not like they can send their dollars to binance and sell on binance because that medium is blocked or do they have a way to bypass it?

The volume of the USDT/NGN traded on binance spot is very low (I'm having problems uploading the photo). The volume shows that about $2.4 million dollars was traded as at the time this post and during that time there was a strong selling pressure that drove the price down. Does that mean that if I have a $3million buy order now that I want to inject into the market will that effectively revert the price back to 1900? If possible that would mean that if someone caused a volatility like that normally p2p traders will change their price but why would BDCs and other institutions follow suit when they are not trading USDT?

Someone that understands my question and is knowledgeable about this stuff should please explain.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by GRACEGLORY: 12:17am On Feb 22

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by Eaglepixel: 12:18am On Feb 22
onatisi:
it is very simple. crypto has the quantity needed and the banks don't have the USD. so the price of a higher market will determine because that is where most people are running to. if there was enough USD in the banks, then no one would even think of crypto. the crypto market rate cant determine the rate of the market if there is enough for everyone.
that brings us to the fundamental question that govt should tackle and face , why is it that banks do not have enough USD? and what does the nation need to do to increase its fx earnings?


You said trash. Usdt is dependent on usd.

One is physical the other digital.

One is used for purchase goods and services.
The other a unit of money digitally without real life use.

Abi banks dey collect usdt not even traditional forex use usdT.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by onatisi(m): 12:26am On Feb 22
but they can protect customers funds and even pause trading and yet their sites will be accessible, the worrying sign is that the site is not accessible again.
GRACEGLORY:





https://www.binance.com/en-NG/blog/all/securing-trust-binance-affirms-user-funds-and-operational-integrity-amid-market-dynamics-in-nigeria-8621586436010791625
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by dvkot(m): 12:26am On Feb 22
onatisi:
boss i am using mtn and it isnt opening
I'm using mtn and all is good here

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by onatisi(m): 12:27am On Feb 22
whaooooooo
did you restart ur phone or laptop ?
dvkot:
I'm using mtn and all is good here
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by dvkot(m): 12:30am On Feb 22
onatisi:
whaooooooo
did you restart ur phone or laptop ?
just toggle it on flight mode
Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by GRACEGLORY: 12:45am On Feb 22
onatisi:
but they can protect customers funds and even pause trading and yet their sites will be accessible, the worrying sign is that the site is not accessible again.


I’m on Binance at the moment. Very accessible.

Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by GRACEGLORY: 12:47am On Feb 22
ElasmoBranchii:
There is something that I am still trying to understand though. Anybody with the answer should chip in.

Isn't USDT/NGN different from USD/NGN that is traded in the forex market. Since USDT is dependent on USD, shouldn't it be the USD that influences USDT not the other way around. If there is manipulation going on then it's the people trading real dollars that are at the bottom of it cause nobody is using USDT to buy goods. USDT is just used as a means of exchange for crypto. Why would BDCs and other institutions be using the price of a digital asset to influence the price of their physical dollar. Shouldn't it be the other way around? It's not like they can send their dollars to binance and sell on binance because that medium is blocked or do they have a way to bypass it?

The volume of the USDT/NGN traded on binance spot is very low (I'm having problems uploading the photo). The volume shows that about $2.4 million dollars was traded as at the time of this post and during that time there was a strong selling pressure that drove the price down. Does that mean that if I have a $3million buy order now that I want to inject into the market will that effectively revert the price back to 1900? If possible that would mean that if someone caused a volatility like that normally p2p traders will change their price but why would BDCs and other institutions follow suit when they are not trading USDT?

Someone that understands my question and is knowledgeable about this stuff should please explain.











The US dollar is not the same as the USDT.
The US dollar is legal cash across the US and is issued by the US Federal Reserve. However, USDT is a cryptocurrency that is supposed to be stable and backed by the dollar. Therefore, the "T" that follows the "USD-T" stands for tether, or being linked to.

Tether Limited ensures that each USDT issuance on the network is supported by a US dollar or other assets.

The main purpose of holding USDT is to protect investors from losing money in market collapses. Its price volatility is less than that of Bitcoin or Ethereum.
Tether Limited is the issuer of USDT tokens. While one tether is worth $1, and occasionally 0.99 or 0.98, they are not the same.

Let’s be reminded, USDT has been the subject of some controversy due to concerns about its reserves and transparency. Why❓

Because, USD and USDT are not the same, but USDT is only tied, linked, or tether to USD.



Who has declared the USDT legal tender in the United States❓

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by ElasmoBranchii(m): 12:49am On Feb 22
onatisi:
it is very simple. crypto has the quantity needed and the banks don't have the USD. so the price of a higher market will determine because that is where most people are running to. if there was enough USD in the banks, then no one would even think of crypto. the crypto market rate cant determine the rate of the market if there is enough for everyone in the banks , but since banks dont have the usd , people are rushing to the most available alternative which is crypto usdt.
that brings us to the fundamental question that govt should tackle and face , why is it that banks do not have enough USD? and what does the nation need to do to increase its fx earnings?


I don't think The CBN and FG have a reply for that so let's focus our attention on someone else the BDCs or any other institutions that exchange dollars.

If you will agree with me the volume of naira converted to USDT is less than the volume of naira to USD.

Meaning that people trading USD are mounting real pressure on the naira so if the people that are really putting pressure on the naira are people that are looking for USD either to import goods or whatever my question is why would BDCs or anybody be setting price based on the price of a digital asset USDT that has an average daily volume of $2.4 million and with a low volume can be easily manipulated for a short while. Why are they not setting prices based on the official rate?
Is it that when they see that binance rate is up that they decide that okay we will not sell to people at this rate because we can transfer our dollars to binance and sell for a higher price but how is that possible when CBN has blocked every medium of doing so.

Let's imagine they defeat binance. Who will keep the BDC guys in check if they start looking to other places to set their rate? After all nobody uses USDT to buy goods in Nigeria so we are subject to them since CBN doesn't have the answers to your question.

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Re: Crypto Currency Investors Thread by onatisi(m): 12:51am On Feb 22
GRACEGLORY:



I’m on Binance at the moment. Very accessible.

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