Objectivist04:
But you Reno was dead when lgbos voted for Obasanjo twice, voted for Yaradua once and voted for Jonathan twice.

No tribe has voted for other tribes like the lgbos, the only time they voted for their own was in 2023 and it is paining other Nigerians especially the yorubas , you people should keep on making fool of yourself.
Reno a minority from a tribe less than 500k in number is pitching you again a major ethnic group and you people are cheering him up

All it takes is for lgbos to align with Atiku in 2027 and emilokon is gone. North is already grieved by his leadership style, we will see if ltsekiri of one and half local government will rescue una.

dettolgel:
Reno is not different from the poorly educated Uche he was trying to correct.

Just a quick one these are some of the flaws from Reno's argument in no particular order:

1. That the number of SEners that voted for Obi in the SE is more than the number of SWners that voted for Tinubu in Lagos does not prove anything.

Infact given the performance of APC in the previous 8 years it could be that because of what the SEners perceived as failure from the APC they decided to vote Obi. Whereas it could also be that the Yorubas that voted APC irrespective of their bad record during Buhari tenure did so because Tinubu is from SW.

Reno claimed to have a PhD he should know that you can only speculate with such data and no serious reviewer will pay attention to such nonsense.

Unless there is a study conducted amongst these voters to really ascertain the factors responsible for their voting pattern every other thing is just speculation.

2. Building two universities does not mean that the education system has improved. I would rather Reno use data from both education enrolment and improvement during these period. That would pass for a better gauge of the effect of their policies if their aims why to improve education. If it why to improve access then building universities might suffice depending which level of education we are talking about.

Why would you build additional university if your policy is to improve the quality of the existing schools? You will need to build a university or more schools if access is part of the problem. The question Reno would have tackled was what were the respective priority of these different states at that point and if the governors met the expectations.

3. Using the bare figure of Lagos state increasing its revenue could also be misleading on it own. One could argue that during his period under consideration per capital how did each state fair?

I find people like Reno either being clownish or deliberately manipulating the interpretation of data to suits their agenda.

If Reno has ever published anything worth reading in academic journal he should know that the nonsense he posted as response will never be accepted and will be rejected outrightly.

richidinho:
Who is Reno Omokiri
A known cr***nal that was sent on exile by Bubu because of billions he stole during GEJ

He was only able to enter Nigeria when he struck a deal with this Emilokan criminal govt, part of the deal is what he is doing now

Using igbo name to open account, post rubbish and also reply himself

A wanderer without a known family background, marrying prostitutes up and down

imam07:
mumu Sebi u be former Reno fan. He dey talk truth now and he has suddenly becomes your enemy. Ibos no dey like listening to truths dats why. One of d reasons Ojukwu go enter war with Nigeria govt

richidinho:


Personality matters to me,if not i would have replied him with pictures of Obi commissioning schools and other bigger life changing projects and i will also challenge him or any of Emilokan support to also post one picture of Tilumbu cutting tape to commission any project in Lagos

richidinho:


If you post one picture of Tinubu cutting tape to commission a project 50k for you

proff010:
Facts always win against insult.
The igbos will still wail in 2027 because the Yorubas who voted PO will not vote for him again.

Objectivist04:
But you Reno was dead when lgbos voted for Obasanjo twice, voted for Yaradua once and voted for Jonathan twice.

No tribe has voted for other tribes like the lgbos, the only time they voted for their own was in 2023 and it is paining other Nigerians especially the yorubas , you people should keep on making fool of yourself.
Reno a minority from a tribe less than 500k in number is pitching you again a major ethnic group and you people are cheering him up

All it takes is for lgbos to align with Atiku in 2027 and emilokon is gone. North is already grieved by his leadership style, we will see if ltsekiri of one and half local government will rescue una.

imam07:
mumu dey worry your head. U lack history that is why u are typing nonsense here. On 1999 election. The major contest was between obj and Olu falae. The two yoruba candidates. And you igbos knew d yorubas did not want obj as president. So because of d hate you people have for d yorubas. You went and vote obj. Ibos never vote for yorubas. So stop this stinking lies u are saying here. What is d % of ibos who voted tinubu and tell me d % of d yorubas who voted Obi. U came here with your dirty mouth saying you voted obj. Was obj yorubas choice? You all think u are wise not knowing u people are dumb. Reason ibos are backward in politics in Nigeria. U all make some yorubas who love Obi turned around to vote tinubu due to dat big mouth u get. Too much of pride dey kill ibos. Thinking u are wiser than other tribes. We don't fight with mouth. We fight with action and dat is what happened in d last election. Go sit down somewhere mumu guy

alayandekolasam:
I keep wondering why and how before and even long after the 2023 election, no Obedient has ever mentioned one singular achievement of Obi as governor for 8 years but keep advancing their arguments on the flaws of other candidates... EIGHT WHOLE YEARS!

Objectivist04:
But you Reno was dead when lgbos voted for Obasanjo twice, voted for Yaradua once and voted for Jonathan twice.

No tribe has voted for other tribes like the lgbos, the only time they voted for their own was in 2023 and it is paining other Nigerians especially the yorubas , you people should keep on making fool of yourself.
Reno a minority from a tribe less than 500k in number is pitching you again a major ethnic group and you people are cheering him up

All it takes is for lgbos to align with Atiku in 2027 and emilokon is gone. North is already grieved by his leadership style, we will see if ltsekiri of one and half local government will rescue una.

blancsn1:
What do you have to say now

Richtaiwo:

Is it true gringory didn't build a single nursery school in Anambra? That is what the thread is about, forget the personality of reno, that ain't necessary, at least for now.

dettolgel:
Reno is not different from the poorly educated Uche he was trying to correct.

Just a quick one these are some of the flaws from Reno's argument in no particular order:

1. That the number of SEners that voted for Obi in the SE is more than the number of SWners that voted for Tinubu in Lagos does not prove anything.

Infact given the performance of APC in the previous 8 years it could be that because of what the SEners perceived as failure from the APC they decided to vote Obi. Whereas it could also be that the Yorubas that voted APC irrespective of their bad record during Buhari tenure did so because Tinubu is from SW.

Reno claimed to have a PhD he should know that you can only speculate with such data and no serious reviewer will pay attention to such nonsense.

Unless there is a study conducted amongst these voters to really ascertain the factors responsible for their voting pattern every other thing is just speculation.

2. Building two universities does not mean that the education system has improved. I would rather Reno use data from both education enrolment and improvement during these period. That would pass for a better gauge of the effect of their policies if their aims why to improve education. If it why to improve access then building universities might suffice depending which level of education we are talking about.

Why would you build additional university if your policy is to improve the quality of the existing schools? You will need to build a university or more schools if access is part of the problem. The question Reno would have tackled was what were the respective priority of these different states at that point and if the governors met the expectations.

3. Using the bare figure of Lagos state increasing its revenue could also be misleading on it own. One could argue that during his period under consideration per capital how did each state fair?

I find people like Reno either being clownish or deliberately manipulating the interpretation of data to suits their agenda.

If Reno has ever published anything worth reading in academic journal he should know that the nonsense he posted as response will never be accepted and will be rejected outrightly.

blancsn1:
But as human with functional brain all that you argued to counter Reno here can also be argued n countered to prove Peter Obi was in no way beta than Keakwaso

1. Given the gross failure of Peter Obi as governor for 8 years with only endemic looting to show that could be valid reason for Nigerians from other regions not to vote him n you Igbos only voted him base on bigotry n ethnicity.

2. Indeed according to your Igbo head building two universities in Kano will lead to reduction in the level of education in whatever criteria n indices you care to use. It takes an Igbo brain to reason so pathetically.

3. Lagos should again have reduced it income for your Igbo brain to count that as success just like Anambra was stagnant in IGR under Peter Obi.

This is the crux of what this Igbo dull boy argued in his long comment. Anyone not sensible enough to decipher the argument will think he said something sensible.

Imagine with bold face this Igbo boy arguing building two universities in a third world country is a diservice to the state ? As in the case of Kwakwaso building university in Kano.

He then argued increasing revenue could also be disservice to the state as well. As in the case of Lagos increasing it IGR hundred folds under Bola Tinubu n subsequent governors after him

This are the dead brains that claim to be social commentators young n Innocent Nigerian refer to as obirodient. Nigeria need help from people like this bigoted retards who manipulate n contradict every induces of success n growth just because failure like Peter Obi can not meet up when those indices are put down to be compared with the like of Kwakwaso Bola Tinubu etc.

It takes being Igbo to reason that pathetically no more no less.

dettolgel:

3. Using the bare figure of Lagos state increasing its revenue could also be misleading on it own. One could argue that during his period under consideration per capital how did each state fair?

dettolgel:
The problem with you guys is that you read to reply not to understand.

My point is never to prove that Uche is right or that Reno is right (the reason allude to Uche's quality of education is the fact that one could make such a bold statement in a public forum without concrete evidence rather than based on speculation). I understand clearly what Reno is trying to say but using the data the way he did was wrong.

Let me summarise my points to you. The argument Reno put forward were flawed based on the data he used. I believe he is in a position to understand that and use a better approach.

Go reread my post and pay attention closely you will see that I purposely used probable statements while making inference from those data. Which means the data he is using could be interpreted in many ways and can't be passed as hard fact for the point he was trying to make.

As an educated person Reno should used air tight data to make such an argument. Reno has a wider audience and he should always use such opportunities as a teaching moment.

There are other people that understand proper interpretation of data and the nuances inherited in it. It is a shame that our youths would rather swallow anything anyone says rather than question the accuracy of the assertions (probably has some cultural undertone to it - listen to your elders and don't question them).

Again if Reno was to submit an article to an academic journal he will never use those data the way he used.

I never in my post single out any tribe or resorted to tribal bashing like you are doing in response to my post. It tells me the kind of person you are and that to you a structured argument is not something you know how to handle. But I will not stoop to you level not today

Now to your points:
1. Of course your assertion could be right or wrong but the data Reno provided can't prove that. Unless there was a study that was conducted to assertain the reason why voters voted the way they did otherswise we will just be wasting our time. Speculation is speculation not facts as Reno is claiming.

Again you agreed with my position without even knowing. I guess you didn't read my post to understand, you were quick to jump on your fun activities - Igbo bashing on NL.

2. I never said it will lead to reduction of education or not. Every state is unique and in as much as we have a fundamental problem across Nigeria in terms of access and quality of education. These problems varies to a certain degree across states. If state A thinks that access to education is priority to them then building more schools may be the way to go. If within the same time frame state B thinks their own priority is improving the quality of the existing schools. The building of more schools isn't the right solution but improving the existing ones.

Now my point: it will be wrong to for instance to look at state A and say the quality of education in state B surpasses yours during this time frame, hence, you have failed in this regards. A could argue that at that point their priority was access (that does not mean that both can't go hand in hand) and that they met their objectives. These are possible explanations which shows the flaw of Reno data.

NL, Luxembourg, Belgium has far less university that you will find in Nigeria but all their universities rank above ours. On the other hand US has more universities than we do and theirs rank way better than ours. The best bet would be for Reno to say at this time point state A and state B has the state priority in this area but this is what A achieved and back it up with data that proves that.

3. I never mention anywhere that Lagos should reduce its income. Granted Lagos did do a marvelous job by increasing its total revenue base. But as a reviewer I would still send it back to the author and ask them to please include the per capital increase, the change in unit cost for such revenue drive etc.. What this does is that it provides additional information and a balance view of indeed that the revenue drive was indeed successful in all ramifications.

I believe we learn everyday I hope that even if you don't find it useful someone else may read it and at least start learning to think how best to query data when presented to them.

But then the choice is yours you can keep on with your tribal rants when it gets to where it matters you will learn by force how to process information. Maybe you already knew you are just trying to do what most people do here "ethnic bashing' no wahala. Na nairaland be this we know as he dey go

adikings22:


I like the fact that you speak and write well. What I don't approve of in your write up is the fact that you downplayed all tangible facts.

You said 'That the number of SEners that voted for Obi in the SE is more than the number of SWners that voted for Tinubu in Lagos does not prove anything.

You people accuse of Yorubas of only voting Tinubu but the figures actually shows that it's the Igbos that actually only voted Obi. Now, you are saying the figures that shows the truth don't prove anything. How can you see the truth and still insist it proves nothing. Try to add the truth to your education/ministry Sir. And the idea is that you people like the truth when it favours you but downplay it when it doesn't.

Moreso Sir, Tinubu's performance as a governor is not a match for Obi's. I think you need to sample the opinion of even Anambra and Lagos people during those periods.

https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

This post was made on Nairaland in 2012 when Peter Obi already spent 6 years as a governor. But in Lagos, people were praising Tinubu. In fact I got to my family house area and I was surprised by how everywhere has changed.

blancsn1:
Of course reading to reply is not part of learning. I would have replied without understand and pointing out your flawed biased argument.
A Why did you never mention a word about Igbos voting the Pandora criminal Peter Obi though he was a failure in your long empty n utterly useless response.

I want to believe we both agreed on that then. Prove of his failure abound on NL where Anambrans lamented about his gross failure.

B. Why do you Igbos have a problem when you are being included in argument ? Why must Igbo be removed from argument or not be used to buttress valid point.

You went on about education that mentioning Luxembourg USA are there no universities in Igbo land you can cite. Is it not exceedingly foolish in the context of your own argument that you are comparing education in 3rd world country to Europe n USA. I mean with all die respect, how else can one explain he or she is a fool without mincing with such comparison ?


2. Building two universities does not mean that the education system has improved. I would rather Reno use data from both education enrolment and improvement during these period. That would pass for a better gauge of the effect of their policies if their aims why to improve education. If it why to improve access then building universities might suffice depending which level of education we are talking about.



3. Using the bare figure of Lagos state increasing its revenue could also be misleading on it own. One could argue that during his period under consideration per capital how did each state fair?

I find people like Reno either being clownish or deliberately manipulating the interpretation of data to suits their agenda.

Rantingpiglets:
Prove him wrong and show TINUBU commissioning a project.

E shock you abi?

loffyloffy:


Please align with whomsoever works for you..it is your God given right.

Reno post has nothing to do with who the Ibos voted for in the past..he is responding to the baby Ibo guy guy that said its only the Ibos that voted for Obi in lagos, if you are smart enough you should have noticed that.

Stastics don't lie..and if only about 60% of yorubas voted for BAT while about 90% of Ibos voted for Obi..then Ibos are 30% more tribalistic than Yorubas on that criterium alone.

The reality is that Obi have lost a lot of supports since the election because of the toxic and abusive nature of his followers.

BAT got the most of his votes from the North, but Ibos wont let Yorubas rest with Abuses and babyish comparison. Just the way you guys spent 8 years abusing and deriding the North and naively assuming that they will back you in the election.

All other tribes are trying to build bridges and make friends..while you.guys are focused on abusing and belitling others. Do you think the people you are abusing today will come round and vote for you tmrw?

Shadomaan7:
Your argument is flawed. Yoruba are known for their detribalized nature and have proven to vote for candidates regardless of ethnicity. Lets focus on facts and not spread hate.

blabulu2000:
Thank God ..Uche came to abuse all these Yoruba traitor and thank God for various insult hurl to Yoruba people from the Yiibo people ...However , the likes of Falz, Pa Ayo Adebanjo , Macaroni including Seun Oshewa and all other Obi Supporters weren't excluded from this post...and this is good...because there are some of these Yoruba people who need to learn their lesson in the hard way....
I remember during the February 2023 election....because of my support for Jagaban ...I was always ban daily....and some of those who always insult Tinubu and push all form of Tribal comments out weren't banned at all....as a matter of fact, I disguised to be Obi Peter fans in my comments and push all sorts of Tribal insults against Yoruba people and Tinubu ...behold, I wasn't banned at all....the post is still there ...but the moment otherwise ...I chop ban.

Now, Yoruba people need to learn...because what I observed over the years is that they kept on repeating the same mistake that their Yoruba ancestors has done in their political career in the past....what a shame!

I know so many Yoruba people in Lagos state ..won fought for Obi Peter and loss his life...what a waste!!! Yet as long as you are not from the Yiibo extract ...you can't be trusted...so, why are my labouring in vain for your Tribal candidate called Obi....?

Why are my labouring for your Tribal candidate called Obi when none of my interest is protected in his Tribal agenda.

Yoruba Ronu

kolaaderin:
here is the data. This people are so unbelievable

BrodaBenad:

Election didn't start 2023 maybe you're just a boy

When Igbos voted OBJ twice what do you call that?

Tell me how many times have Yorubas voted Igbos unanimously?