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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Iamanoited: 11:00pm On Mar 24
Petalss:

Who is presently on the throne?


THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION.
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 10:58am On Mar 25
Steep:
The father, Son and Holy Spirit has one name, Yahweh, when the name is used the context would determine who is talking to whom is he talking to.
No Sir.
Evidence against your false claim: Revelation 3:12.
Oga,@ Revelation 3:12,
Christ said:"I will write the name of my God".
Christ said :"I will write my new name."

Oga, did Christ write name of holy spirit on anyone?

Will Christ write name wey no exist?
Holy spirit is NOT Yahweh.
Holy spirit is NOT a person.
Trinity na scam!!!!

Steep:

Same problem, you have with John 1vv1 because bother father and Son were called God but the context will tell you which is which.

The only problem with John 1:1 is the Trinity scam. Anywhere in the holy scriptures, where Theos refers to the Father, Theos is big letter G capitalized.
Whenever Theos refers to another being (not the Father), Theo's is always small letter g. For example Acts 12:22-23. 1 Corinthians 4:4
This is the standard for Bible translation.
More so, when Bible scholars have proven that John 10:33 is small letter g. (Screenshot evidences).
But Trinitarians CHANGED it to big letter G.
Trinitarians Forgery and FRAUD.
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:07am On Mar 25
Emusan:
This thing really pained this worshipper of the 8 men in Warwick so tee he has to divide my post into 8 different unconnected posts with jargons and spammed my mention with it

But I won't allow you to drag me in the mud as pig with you.

Thank you!
Emusan MUMU dim wit has no response to the intensity of the exposure of his lengthy MUMU posts.

Emusan dey save face.
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:23am On Mar 25
Emusan:


The Hebrew name of Jesus is Yeshua

Do you have any problem with that?

No! But the English got the name Jesus from Latin derived from the Greek name Lesous.

Do you have problem with that?

Was Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

It's comic yet you claimed you used the name Yahweh often.

You are not calling Jesus by his Hebrew name but you are WAILING about what JWs call him.

In the same manner you are WAILING & LYING about the name Jehovah.

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Emusan:


Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation [b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18[/b]

And the challenge again, provide a passage like this about the name Jehovah.
Your brain hurts to understand John 17:3 & Revelation 7:9,Acts 4:12 Salvation/eternal life belongs to Jehovah God and His son sent to redeem us.
Emusan dim wit grin grin


Emusan:



Lastly, since you used more of Yahweh than Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork then you're a Yahweh Witness and not a Jehovah witness cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

Yahweh's witnesses= Jehovah's witnesses.
Go & verify, Emusan dim wit
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:35am On Mar 25
Steep:
That is not the question, why did watch tower use Jehovah instead of yahweh? Failure to answer this question I will never answer any of your questions.

Nobody actually knows the exact pronunciation of YHWH.

If you prefer Yahweh, that's ok.
For us,we prefer Jehovah.

If e dey vex you, REMOVE from your own Bible every first letter J' of all Hebrew names there.

Stop doing hypocrisy on Nairaland
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:41am On Mar 25
Steep:
Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

How can you be the God you are worshipping?

Revelation 3:12, in heaven, did Jesus teach you he worships himself?


Those versions do NOT stick to the teachings of Jesus.
Those versions are not truthful .
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 11:50am On Mar 25
Steep:


Not true many versions also use LORD,some use yahweh so why follow other translations that use Jehovah? .
wonderful, other versions also said that Jesus is God why don't you follow them?

In the Hebrew manuscript of Psalm 110:1, how many "LORD" is in that verse?
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:01pm On Mar 25
Jokerman:



Still better than reducing the authority and Godship of Jesus Christ to an angel

When your mentors , Martin Luther, Charles Surgeon etc already proven that Jesus Christ is actually archangel Michael ,you dey continue your ignorance and delusion. Screenshots evidences.

Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 12:10pm On Mar 25
Janosky:
You are not calling Jesus by his Hebrew name but you are WAILING about what JWs call him.

Provide where the discussion is about Jesus...

The discussion is about the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Remember you turn your blind eyes to that question.

In the same manner you are WAILING & LYING about the name Jehovah.

Provide the lie I lied against the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork or not?

Is the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek?

The truth is, the ENGLISH NAME Jesus is a transliteration of the Greek lēsous transliterated to Latin and the New Testament was written in Greek.

Your brain hurts to understand John 17:3 & Revelation 7:9,Acts 4:12 Salvation/eternal life belongs to Jehovah God and His son sent to redeem us.
Emusan dim wit grin grin

You haven't attended to my challenge.

Here it is again Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation:
[b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18

The last part even showed that it was Jesus name the Apostles were proclaiming and that is what the leaders want them to stop.


Yahweh's witnesses= Jehovah's witnesses.
Go & verify, Emusan dim wit grin grin

But you haven't addressed yourself or watchtower addressing themselves as Yahweh's Witness.

Provide your evidence here.
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:21pm On Mar 25
Steep:
your watch tower agrees that God takes different roles to fulfill his will yet you nor fit comment.
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Oga Steep are you ready for the Bible truth?
Exodus chapters 14 &15 Yahweh was the Warrior & Saviour of the Israelites. He played that role.
Yahweh was the Yireh (Provider) of manna from heaven. Yahweh played that role.

The million dollar question : Is Yahweh a messenger at anytime?
Isaiah 6:8 & John 3:16.
And I heard the voice of LORD JEHOVAH who said: “Whom shall I send, and who will go?”, and I said, “Behold here I am; send me”

John 3:16 "God (Yahweh) sent His only begotten Son"
Oga Steep version: "God Yahweh sent Yahweh himself"

Final verdict: God Yahweh is NOT a Messenger & can NOT do so.
Oga Steep, you are DECEIVING YOURSELF. grin

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:31pm On Mar 25
Steep:

Your organisation teaches that Jesus has two names Micheal in heaven and Jesus on earth yet you nor fit comment.
.
John 3:16 & John 7:16, is Jesus Christ a messenger?
Yes.
Daniel 10:13, is archangel Michael a messenger?
Yes.
Isaiah 6:8, is Jehovah God a messenger?
No .
Oga Steep bonded to Trinity delusion grin grin
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:39pm On Mar 25
Steep:

Yes Jesus has many names including mighty God, wonderful etc he also bears the name Jehovah is heaven before his incarnation but after his incarnation he had an additional name which is Jesus that is why when the apostles quote the old testament they also attribute the name Jehovah to Jesus, abi you nor know say LORD for old testament na actually yahweh. Hahaha. Confused lots.

Revelation 3:12, Jesus Christ said
" The one who conquers,I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God"


Confused Steep, what did Jesus teach you at Revelation 3:12?
Did Jesus worship himself in heaven?

Oga,Free yourself from Trinity scam
.
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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:40pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


Provide where the discussion is about Jesus...

The discussion is about the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Remember you turn your blind eyes to that question.



Provide the lie I lied against the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork or not?

Is the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek?

The truth is, the ENGLISH NAME Jesus is a transliteration of the Greek lēsous transliterated to Latin and the New Testament was written in Greek.



You haven't attended to my challenge.

Here it is again Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation:
[b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18

The last part even showed that it was Jesus name the Apostles were proclaiming and that is what the leaders want them to stop.




But you haven't addressed yourself or watchtower addressing themselves as Yahweh's Witness.

Provide your evidence here.
So are you saying that the king James version is wrong for using Jehovah?
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:42pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


Provide where the discussion is about Jesus...

The discussion is about the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Remember you turn your blind eyes to that question.



Provide the lie I lied against the name Jehovah.

Was the name Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork or not?

Is the name Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek?

The truth is, the ENGLISH NAME Jesus is a transliteration of the Greek lēsous transliterated to Latin and the New Testament was written in Greek.



You haven't attended to my challenge.

Here it is again Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation:
[b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18

The last part even showed that it was Jesus name the Apostles were proclaiming and that is what the leaders want them to stop.




But you haven't addressed yourself or watchtower addressing themselves as Yahweh's Witness.

Provide your evidence here.

Dunce , go & rest grin grin grin

Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Janosky: 12:43pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

So are you saying that the king James version is wrong for using Jehovah?
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?

No mind that dunce grin grin grin
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 2:16pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

So are you saying that the king James version is wrong for using Jehovah?
Is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?

How many times will I tell you that you don't ask me questions when you can't answer my own question?

Answer the questions in my post then you can go ahead to ask yours.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 2:16pm On Mar 25
Janosky:


Dunce , go & rest grin grin grin

As usual he couldn't attempt any of my questions.

So this is your evidence to show that Watchtower do called themselves Yahweh's witness and you called yourself Yahweh's Witness

Very pathetic of you.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 4:05pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


How many times will I tell you that you don't ask me questions when you can't answer my own question?

Answer the questions in my post then you can go ahead to ask yours.



Whether a catholic monk coined the word Jehovah or not, is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?
I don't get. What is actually the issue?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 4:07pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


As usual he couldn't attempt any of my questions.

So this is your evidence to show that Watchtower do called themselves Yahweh's witness and you called yourself Yahweh's Witness

Very pathetic of you.
Is there an issue in calling oneself Yahweh witnesses?
Is Yahweh and Jehovah no longer the name of God?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 6:19pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

Whether a catholic monk coined the word Jehovah or not, is there a difference between Jehovah and Yahweh?
I don't get. What is actually the issue?

It's not an answer to my questions.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 6:50pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


It's not an answer to my questions.

What is your question about?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 6:56pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

What is your question about?

Go back to my post you quoted, it's boldly written there.

Or you didn't read the post before you jump to quote it?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 7:19pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


Go back to my post you quoted, it's boldly written there.

Or you didn't read the post before you jump to quote it?
Oga the name Jehovah is an English name for the Hebrew tetragrammaton JHVH Also know as Yahweh YHWH.
Both are used as names belonging to the God of the Bible.
So what's the issue?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 7:48pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

Oga the name Jehovah is an English name for the Hebrew tetragrammaton JHVH Also know as Yahweh YHWH.
Both are used as names belonging to the God of the Bible.
So what's the issue?

You haven't answered my questions.

What is the problem with you?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 7:49pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


You haven't answered my questions.

What is the problem with you?
Oga what is your question?
Ask it here again. Or screenshot it here for me to see.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 7:53pm On Mar 25
Michael547:

Oga what is your question?
Ask it here again. Or screenshot it here for me to see.

Go back to my post you quoted.

How is that hard for you to do?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 11:15pm On Mar 25
Emusan:


Go back to my post you quoted.

How is that hard for you to do?
Oga if you cannot point it out then forget it.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Emusan(m): 9:03am On Mar 26
Michael547:

Oga if you cannot point it out then forget it.

The last time I checked, you're the one so curious and demanding answer from me.

Educated and literate people read and understand a post before engaging, but this is what you failed to do at beginning then want me to waste my time, when you're the one who quoted my post without doing the necessary.

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Truvelisback(m): 4:56am On Mar 28
Michael547:

How come Jesus is a son? Why can't the father also be a son? How come that Jesus who is an immortal and eternal God in heaven just like the father was able to become a creation and die? Does that mean that the father can become a creation and die also?
He became the son because of His mission on earth.
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Michael547(m): 12:39pm On Mar 28
Truvelisback:
He became the son because of His mission on earth.
So what was the structure of the Trinity in heaven before Jesus came to the earth?

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Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Ken4Christ: 12:00am On Mar 29
Michael547:

So what was the structure of the Trinity in heaven before Jesus came to the earth?

God, The Word and The Spirit
Re: If Jesus Calls The Father " The Only True God" Does That Mean Jesus Is Not God? by Ken4Christ: 12:01am On Mar 29
Steep:
If Jesus calls the father " the only true God" does that mean Jesus is not God?

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

In Jesus prayer to his father, he asked the father to glorify him so that he will in turn glorify the father.
Not that Jesus has not being glorifying the father but Jesus wanted to glorify his father more and more.
Jesus glorified his father with his life, his miracles, his teachings and his death. Also after his resurrection Jesus continued to glorify his father, Today Jesus brings glory to his father as he had always done.
The father is glorified when he sees the life, the character of his son in we who are Christians.
Everyday as we grow towards maturity in christ Jesus, as the character of christ continue to develop in us, we bring glory to God our Father. Now to the question,
If Jesus describe the father as the only true God does that mean he is not God?

Jesus is the God we see. The father is the God we don't see. And you can't separate them. They are one.

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