Ohyoudidnt:

The missing portions of the Aleppo Codex represent a loss in terms of complete preservation.

The inclusion or omission of Matthew 17 :21 slows inconsistencies

ahmedio2017:



Liar, what we've already discussed....
This further shows your level of competency...

LIAR

Qasim6:


1. Non of the Canonical gospels was written by eye witness. Because you might have to explain why they were all written in Koine Greek and why Matthew a supposed disciple of Jesus would have to used Mark a supposed disciple of Peter for his own work.

It's a common knowledge that writers of Matthew and Luke used Mark in written theirs.

2. There is not a single one of them we can affirm the original writer

They were first called memoir of the apostles. The names Mark, Matthew, Luke and John were only assigned to those works by the church fathers in the 2nd century. The writers did not sign their names.

3. The Gospel according to John does not conform with the oral gospel and it was written late around 100CE.

TenQ:

How can a question be a lie or are you just programmed to say so?


1. Where then is Allah according to Mohammed?
4. Is Al-Bait-al-Ma'mur a real house or not

ahmedio2017:




Shut your dirty mouth up,, I told you Allah is in the heaven sitting on a throne called Al-harashi... How many times do I have to repeat myself and teach you what u don't know... Honestly you have been programmed.....
Anyways I won't waste my time with you. Because you refused to be enlightened....

Ohyoudidnt:


I needed to ascertain there wasn't another Hadith.

What do you understand by
"And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us"?

What does it is refer to?

What is the it that is?

Ohyoudidnt:


I needed to ascertain there wasn't another Hadith.

What do you understand by
"And verily, it is in the Mother of Book with Us"?

What does it is refer to?

What is the it that is?

TenQ:

Okay. I agree with you.


You have insisted that:
1. The Qur'an is an attribute of the speech of Allah
2. The Qur'an is uncreated
3. The Qur'an is eternal.



If this is true, then the Qur'an is a partner with Allah because the
1. The Qur'an is a living being
2. The Qur'an is independent of Allah

Before you cry
1. Qur'an will come as an intercessor and only a living conscious being can be an intercession

Riyad as-Salihin 991
Abu Umamah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) saying, "Read the Qur'an, for it will come as an intercessor for its reciters on the Day of Resurrection."


2. Even specific chapters of the Qur'an will intercede for you Muslims

Sahih Muslim 804a
Abu Umāmah said he heard Allah’s Messenger ﷺ say, “Recite the Qur’an, for on the Day of Resurrection it will come as an intercessor for those who recite it. Recite the two bright ones, al-Baqarah and Sūrah ale-Imran, for on the Day of Resurrection they will come as two clouds or two shades, or two flocks of birds in ranks, pleading for those who recite them. Recite Sūrah al-Baqarah, for to take recourse to it is a blessing and to give it up is a cause of grief, and the magicians cannot confront it.”


3. Mohammed described how the Qur'an will come to people as a Pale man

Sunan Ibn Majah 3781
It was narrated from Ibn Buraidah that his father told that the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) said:
"The Quran will come on the Day of Resurrection, like a pale man, and will say: 'I am the one that kept you awake at night and made you thirsty during the day."


4. Intercessors are allowed only on the permission of Allah.
Qur'an 20:109
“On that day no intercession shall avail, except the one for whom the Most Gracious (Allah) has given permission and whose word is acceptable to Him”
Qur'an 2:255
“Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission?”

If Allah gives the Qur'an permission to intercede for Muslims, then the Qur'an must be conscious, living being!

Meaning that the Quran is both Alive and independent of Allah!

Ohyoudidnt:


I see that you are gradually getting to it. Fantastic!

How can the Quran be independent of Allah? Is it no longer the words/speech of Allah? Is your speach independent of you? Do your words come out of your lips unconsciously or beyond your control?

If your deeds will be evaluated why not your deed of reciting/reading the Quran? More so when you read, understand and put what you read into practice.

Allah chooses who or what will intercede. In all Allah himself too will intercede.

Is repugnant argumentative nature your partner?

TenQ:

1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?

I am too sure you will do everything to avoid answering these three questions.





This is a problem caused by your prophet!
The Quran is not Allah, yet is is uncreated and eternal, leading to serious implications!

SIRTee15:

Cc honesttalk antiChristian Ohyoudidn't Gaskiyamagana ahmedio expanse

Since we talking about Tawhid, I want a Muslim to clarify.

Can I worship the shin of Allah. If the answer is No, why?

If Allah is one, why can't I worship his shin?

gaskiyamagana:

Leave Allah alone for His slaves and worshippers.
Be shameful and join others who are better off you in knowkedge and faithful than you in acknowledging and doing everything possible to save your FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE Biblical God whom his words/ verses are under constant and continue removing and correcting , as I have listed, which you and your hypocrite comrades are dodging and trying to shift to other issues.

FxMasterz:


Not so. Each manuscript is a complete Bible on its own. They're like the same S.S 2 Biology notes written my many SS 2 students. Each note is a complete biology note on its own but you can make comparison between notes to clarify confusions you may find in some notes.



That's a very minor issue which could be as a result of several factors. If this occurrence happens in multiple places, then there'll be rooms for concern. The manuscripts are copied by men, and there could be errors of ommission during the process.

Ohyoudidnt:


Is your speech or writing you?

SIRTee15:



Pls any sensible Muslim.

Allah has a shin, I want to know if I can worship the shin of Allah.
Since Allah is one, can I worship his shin. If the answer is no, why?
Why can't I worship the shin of Allah if Allah is meant to be one.

gaskiyamagana:

Another run away, dodging tactics which will not work.
The above as response to the post is relevant, sensible or moronical?

gaskiyamagana:

Laugh!
Laughing !!
Laughing -inginging....... unlimited!!!
May be you need to re taught what Book of God or Word of God is; as well as the word 'Holy ' ; simply because your words:
' Biology notes'
'you can make comparison between ( biology) notes to clarify CONFUSION you may find in some notes ' ; are shameful and unbefitting to be associated with anything that has to with TRUE, HOLY AND INFALLIBLE GOD.
Again, your response to the missing verse is another ignorant of DEFICIENCIES of your holy book, yet arrogantly claiming knowledge of Islam holy book.
"If this occurrence happens in multiple places, then there will be rooms for concern."
Dodging or hypocrite or cover up that there are tens of verses remove or review from early bible as in the today bibles? Ask you co-Kafiruna and religion Nuisance in Nairaland, TenQ, l have listed them to him above in this subject matter, up till moment neither did he acknowledge or explain why biblical God is FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE that his sons are shameful of and started deleting, removing and correcting their holy father's Words.
"...there could be errors of omission during the process.." ; as you said above is COMPLETE or PARTIAL acceptance that bible is fool of ERRORS?

TenQ:


I asked you three Questions:

1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?

And I wasn't disappointed in your first response as I said:
I am too sure you will do everything to avoid answering these three questions.

Ohyoudidnt:


I am not in any way trying to impress you. Any that Allah deems fit and authorizes can intercede.

gaskiyamagana:

Laugh!
Laughing !!
Laughing -inginging....... unlimited!!!
May be you need to re taught what Book of God or Word of God is; as well as the word 'Holy ' ; simply because your words:
' Biology notes'
'you can make comparison between ( biology) notes to clarify CONFUSION you may find in some notes ' ; are shameful and unbefitting to be associated with anything that has to with TRUE, HOLY AND INFALLIBLE GOD.
Again, your response to the missing verse is another ignorant of DEFICIENCIES of your holy book, yet arrogantly claiming knowledge of Islam holy book.
"If this occurrence happens in multiple places, then there will be rooms for concern."
Dodging or hypocrite or cover up that there are tens of verses remove or review from early bible as in the today bibles? Ask you co-Kafiruna and religion Nuisance in Nairaland, TenQ, l have listed them to him above in this subject matter, up till moment neither did he acknowledge or explain why biblical God is FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE that his sons are shameful of and started deleting, removing and correcting their holy father's Words.
"...there could be errors of omission during the process.." ; as you said above is COMPLETE or PARTIAL acceptance that bible is fool of ERRORS?

TenQ:

I did not ask you about authorization.

I said:


1. What does it mean to intercede for another?
2. Can a non-living being intercede for anyone?
3. Of all the attributes of Allah, which else can intercede or speak for a person?


Islamic theology always break down with questions because they were Doctrines created in the spur of the moment without any thought. This is why Mohammed aka Allah says that you shouldn't ask questions about his revelations!

Qasim6:


You can throw the entire human race under the bus if you like.
Even Jewish sources have the age of Rebecca to be 3 while some other 14 when she married Isaac.

Qasim6:


What you guys don't understand is for believing in the absurdity 'Jesus is God', there is no way you can exonerate him from all those passages you don't like in the old testament.

Did God allow the Israelites to take people as slaves or not? You can check Deut 20 10-14 for reference.

Qasim6:

Definition of woman varies with time and location.

Even now that child marriage have become something of the past. People do use phrase like
"You are now a woman" for young girls that have just seen their first period.

So the fact that she was called a woman does not prove anything.

Qasim6:

If you check Deut 21 10-14 you will see what they were supposed to do with them.

Qasim6:


Do you expect people to keep records of their ages in 6th century Arabia?
The only reason we know the likely age of Aisha is as a result of the fact that almost everything about the life of the Prophet was recorded.
We know that even before the marriage of Aisha to the Prophet, she was proposed by Jubayr ibn Mutim which also indicates how it was completely normal back then.

Qasim6:


You can reject all you want, the fact that the root word is talal does not take away the fact that talitha could mean maiden.

Qasim6:


You can reject all you want, the fact that the root word is talal does not take away the fact that talitha could mean maiden.

Ohyoudidnt:


I believe we had an English class earlier on. That should do more so I don't teach.

I answered a question and am surprised you are still fishing for what you mean to say to close your case.

TenQ:

I am not surprised at you one bit.

Islam is a religion based on Hearsay that is devoid of reason or purpose. Your copy other people's religion and adopt it as yours without understanding the purpose or its basis.

This is why you can't explain many things in your religion.
But you can explain many things in your religion but a disgraceful failure and shameless to explain how your biblical God is FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE, the reasons why his sons are removing and correcting words/verses that l listed which you are silence over.


Have a nice day sir!

SIRTee15:


Anyway leave all these Aisha- Muhammed story and let's deal with the real issue. Who is God.

Allah has a shin. As a Muslim am I permitted to worship the shin of Allah.
If the answer is no, why?
If Allah is one, why can't I worship the shin of Allah.
Is the shin of Allah not one with Allah?

Qasim6:


You can reject all you want, the fact that the root word is talal does not take away the fact that talitha could mean maiden.

gaskiyamagana:

Solve problem of yours first, your FALLIBLE, ERRORBILE AND MISTAKEABLE Biblical God whom his sons discovered his errors and are now deleting, removing and correcting him with those missing bible verses I listed for your Master, TenQ which he can't answer.