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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:01pm On Apr 04
TheSuperNerd:
I would ask them in this thread what the Ivorian interim cum substantive coach's pedigree or achievements were prior to him taking over and leading CIV to the title just few months ago. What had Emerse Fae achieved?

Amunike is obviously the best choice for the Super Eagles (both from economic and football philosophy/tactical angles, etc) and even has a better CV than the Ivorian Fae who didn't boast much until he went ahead and won the Afcon.

We can kid ourselves all we want and shout or argue but if we are not hiring a top sound foreign coach, then it is better we hand it to Amunike and stop all this rubbish time wasting.



Period.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:08pm On Apr 04
typicalgamer:


My only wish is for a non Nigerian coach to hold the super eagles head coach job

Simple

I’d prefer any Npfl coaches that had managed to reach the final of caf champions league instead of these great pretenders we’re parading up and down

You want a coach that has reached the CAF Champions league finals?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 6:13pm On Apr 04
elyte89:


My man forget amunike …I am above him presently,u no Dey hear.
You are already doing well at comedy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Barryseal: 6:14pm On Apr 04
viccy12:


Cc.Kog45

Emmanuel Okala is a from ,Onicha Ado ,Anambra. He is even an Ozo titled. Okey Emodi and Alex Iwobi are also from Onicha. Okala is a member of the prestigious Agbalanze of Onicha.
The Okalas are actually from OgbeOtu in Onitsha. That particular village have historic ties to Ida Amkpa people of Kogi state.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:29pm On Apr 04
Meliforme:


You are already doing well at comedy.


But sincerely judging by dis time wasting of nff ..I don’t think Dey re ready to settle for any local coach ,Dey re waiting for one grade d coach to agree to deir usual 50k dollars 💵 salary
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:50pm On Apr 04
What's up doc!

Respect your argument but I don't think the Fae example you're using is a good enough argument for Amunike to be SE coach.

Fae's case is very similar to Di Matteo who took over Chelsea who were in dire straits and led them to their first UCL title. Does that mean Di Matteo is better than Guys like Jose, Hiddick or Scolari who failed where he succeeded?

If Amuneke gets the nod to handle the SE he will have my full support but it takes more than a decent CV to succeed with the SE.

TheSuperNerd:
I would ask them in this thread what the Ivorian interim cum substantive coach's pedigree or achievements were prior to him taking over and leading CIV to the title just few months ago. What had Emerse Fae achieved?

Amunike is obviously the best choice for the Super Eagles (both from economic and football philosophy/tactical angles, etc) and even has a better CV than the Ivorian Fae who didn't boast much until he went ahead and won the Afcon.

We can kid ourselves all we want and shout or argue but if we are not hiring a top sound foreign coach, then it is better we hand it to Amunike and stop all this rubbish time wasting.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 7:54pm On Apr 04
chrisooblog:
What's up doc!

Respect your argument but I don't think the Fae example you're using is a good enough argument for Amunike to be SE coach.

Fae's case is very similar to Di Matteo who took over Chelsea who were in dire straits and led them to their first UCL title. Does that mean Di Matteo is better than Guys like Jose, Hiddick or Scolari who failed where he succeeded?

If Amuneke gets the nod to handle the SE he will have my full support but it takes more than a decent CV to succeed with the SE.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:07pm On Apr 04
Meliforme:


You want a coach that has reached the CAF Champions league finals?

Bro I’m sorry I no rate amunike one bit

I no rate any of our home base coaches one bit

None of our Npfl teams can play free flowing football and you want me to trust the coaches ??

In my opinion i think our current crops of players are more tactical inept and educated than our local coaches plain and simple

Honestly none of our local coaches is up to super eagles standard unless you guys want to drag us back 600 years

Come on guys we’re in a World Cup year and you all expect amunike to give us a good run ??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:14pm On Apr 04
TheSuperNerd:
I would ask them in this thread what the Ivorian interim cum substantive coach's pedigree or achievements were prior to him taking over and leading CIV to the title just few months ago. What had Emerse Fae achieved?

Amunike is obviously the best choice for the Super Eagles (both from economic and football philosophy/tactical angles, etc) and even has a better CV than the Ivorian Fae who didn't boast much until he went ahead and won the Afcon.

[/b]We can kid ourselves all we want and shout or argue but if we are not hiring a top sound foreign coach, then it is better we hand it to Amunike and stop all this rubbish time wasting.[b]



Economically yes

Tactically NOoooooooooooooooo


I agree with the bolder
But let’s not make it sound like amunike is some hot shot
He’s the best of the average joes we have plain and simple nothing is expected from him and we’ll Rely solely on individual brilliance going forward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:27pm On Apr 04
BankyGee:

I checked the man's managerial stats as a head coach. E no to sharp like that o. We can just hope he does well but his win % is below average (41.71)

Even at Galatasaray, he played 20 games, won 7, drew 5 and lost 8... 🌚
poor stats I must say,
I'm unimpressed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:37pm On Apr 04
It is a fantastic argumentative analogy because in the end, Fae is an Afcon-winning coach right now. If he was denied that chance due to his CV not being up to par or because he has no record of doing anything grand elsewhere, CIV won't be Champs today.

Even Pep Guardiola... what was his CV or records like before he took over at Barca and began his legendary coaching journey. Not impressive I must confess.

Fae may bear similarity to the Di Matteo situation but in the end, both ended up as Champions. Whereas Di Matteo wasn't really given the chance to continue, Fae is being given that chance and hopefully the Ivorian FA don't make the same mistake Chelsea made by firing a guy without giving him a proper chance to further assert himself on the team.

And @bolded... you have made part of my points for me. Amunike is also criticised on this thread because his CV is not "World class" but again, it takes more than a world class CV to really coach a team and bring out success from a group of players with distinct playing profiles/ID individually.

The ability to weave these profiles together and forge a strong XI and a strong bench is why I badly want Amunike in the dug out. He has what it takes and I am pretty convinced about that from the various angles and broad information I have considered overtime.




chrisooblog:
What's up doc!

Respect your argument but I don't think the Fae example you're using is a good enough argument for Amunike to be SE coach.

Fae's case is very similar to Di Matteo who took over Chelsea who were in dire straits and led them to their first UCL title. Does that mean Di Matteo is better than Guys like Jose, Hiddick or Scolari who failed where he succeeded?

If Amuneke gets the nod to handle the SE he will have my full support but it takes more than a decent CV to succeed with the SE.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:44pm On Apr 04
Individual brilliance will always be one of the major influences in any good team. Man City has Pep but still rely on the individual brilliance of certain players in certain games to get them out of a hole/ditch. Foden was their latest of such individual brilliances.


Look, Amunike is tactically sound. The essence of a good sound coach is to ensure that alongside individual brilliances, we also have other ways of hurting opponents as a team.

An average coach will always rely on the individual brilliances of his players but a better and sound coach will set up his team to allow more of such individual brilliances to be expressed organisationally, with structure and more importantly with tactical purpose. He will merge the abilities of certain star men, to be brilliant on their own, with the team tactical structure and produce even scarier Class and Quality.


typicalgamer:


Economically yes

Tactically NOoooooooooooooooo


I agree with the bolder
But let’s not make it sound like amunike is some hot shot
He’s the best of the average joes we have plain and simple nothing is expected from him and we’ll Rely solely on individual brilliance going forward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:52pm On Apr 04
If only you were white and from Eastern Europe, you, as a Grade Z coach may stand a chance. 😂



PS: You are right. The NFF as always are dragging their feet on going local. They may end up giving us another journey man coach unless they surprise.

elyte89:



But sincerely judging by dis time wasting of nff ..I don’t think Dey re ready to settle for any local coach ,Dey re waiting for one grade d coach to agree to deir usual 50k dollars 💵 salary

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:59pm On Apr 04
TheSuperNerd:
Individual brilliance will always be one of the major influences in any good team. Man City has Pep but still rely on the individual brilliance of certain players in certain games to get them out of a hole/ditch. Foden was their latest of such individual brilliances.


Look, Amunike is tactically sound. The essence of a good sound coach is to ensure that alongside individual brilliances, we also have other ways of hurting opponents as a team.

An average coach will always rely on the individual brilliances of his players but a better and sound coach will set up his team to allow more of such individual brilliances to be expressed organisationally, with structure and more importantly with tactical purpose. He will merge the abilities of certain star men, to be brilliant on their own, with the team tactical structure and produce even scarier Class and Quality.




But doc, I am for a local coach too…but looking at deir cvs ,don’t u think dt agbo guy deserves d nod ahead of amunike
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 9:01pm On Apr 04
typicalgamer:


None of our Npfl teams can play free flowing football and you want me to trust the coaches ??

??
False

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 9:11pm On Apr 04
NFF should not make mistake of employing Amuneke.
If they do we will not even see third in our World Cup qualifying group.

NFF cannot tell me either Mosimane/Hervé Renard is beyond its budget.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:18pm On Apr 04
Ndubuisi Egbo doesn't have the tactical flexibility of Amunike. I saw his team in the European backwaters of Albania for KF Tirana. Very basic.

Egbo also doesn't have the pull and charisma Amunike boasts. Amunike will easily command the respect of the players. Amunike has played at the highest level and was also Africa's best at one time. Look, you don't buy such pedigree in the market. You have it or you don't.

But ofcos, this is not to say you have to be a former football great to have such respect. We have guys like Mourinho or Klopp who hardly achieved much as footballers but are sound top and respected coaches today. But with respect to Egbo and Amunike, this point is actually vital as it is the Super Eagles afterall.

elyte89:



But doc, I am for a local coach too…but looking at deir cvs ,don’t u think dt agbo guy deserves d nod ahead of amunike
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:30pm On Apr 04
Marjoribanks:
NFF should not make mistake of employing Amuneke.
If they do we will not even see third in our World Cup qualifying group.

NFF cannot tell me either Mosimane/Hervé Renard is beyond its budget.



Is d pointers going to amunike?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 9:40pm On Apr 04
Finidi was the chosen one not until the friendlies.
Some powerful folks want Amuneke but most of the players and the top NFF officials don't. He has some verified allegations against him.
Equaveon will likely take charge in June assisted by Finidi to allow the NFF enough time to make the right decision.
elyte89:



Is d pointers going to amunike?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:05pm On Apr 04
Marjoribanks:
Finidi was the chosen one not until the friendlies.
Some powerful folks want Amuneke but most of the players and the top NFF officials don't. He has some verified allegations against him.
Equaveon will likely take charge in June assisted by Finidi to allow the NFF enough time to make the right decision.


AE again?

Chaiii
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 11:11pm On Apr 04
at this stage, no be to beg paseiro come back so? I knew we would be so disorganised after the Afcon (win or not), what a shame!

this Fuji House of Commotion no get season 2 grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 11:49pm On Apr 04
TheSuperNerd:
Ndubuisi Egbo doesn't have the tactical flexibility of Amunike. I saw his team in the European backwaters of Albania for KF Tirana. Very basic.

Egbo also doesn't have the pull and charisma Amunike boasts. Amunike will easily command the respect of the players. Amunike has played at the highest level and was also Africa's best at one time. Look, you don't buy such pedigree in the market. You have it or you don't.

But ofcos, this is not to say you have to be a former football great to have such respect. We have guys like Mourinho or Klopp who hardly achieved much as footballers but are sound top and respected coaches today. But with respect to Egbo and Amunike, this point is actually vital as it is the Super Eagles afterall.


If not for injuries Amuneke would have been the best winger Nigeria ever produced. I mean barcelona snapped him up from Portugal. He was something else

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:33am On Apr 05
Philosopher1979:


If not for injuries Amuneke would have been the best winger Nigeria ever produced. I mean barcelona snapped him up from Portugal. He was something else
I don’t think playing for Barcelona should be the yardstick cuz very average Gbenga Okunowo played for the same Barcelona,from shooting stars.Yes injuries affected Amunike but Nigeria still has wonderful wingers like Segun Odegbami,Adokiye Aimesemeaka and Finidi George.

If NFF failed to get seasonal coach then better to have our own Amuneke or Finidi managing the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:00am On Apr 05
typicalgamer:


Bro I’m sorry I no rate amunike one bit

I no rate any of our home base coaches one bit

None of our Npfl teams can play free flowing football and you want me to trust the coaches ??

In my opinion i think our current crops of players are more tactical inept and educated than our local coaches plain and simple

Honestly none of our local coaches is up to super eagles standard unless you guys want to drag us back 600 years

Come on guys we’re in a World Cup year and you all expect amunike to give us a good run ??


At least i rate Finidi ahead of Rohr and Peseiro.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 3:24am On Apr 05
The all that i see is bias, imagine the clamor for Herve Renard that is not even available just to diss Amunike.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:56am On Apr 05
Meliforme:


At least i rate Finidi ahead of Rohr and Peseiro.
if Finidi have Peseiro’s achievements una go protest for NFF to give him 20 years contract

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 5:16am On Apr 05
typicalgamer:


Bro I’m sorry I no rate amunike one bit

I no rate any of our home base coaches one bit

None of our Npfl teams can play free flowing football and you want me to trust the coaches ??

In my opinion i think our current crops of players are more tactical inept and educated than our local coaches plain and simple

Honestly none of our local coaches is up to super eagles standard unless you guys want to drag us back 600 years

Come on guys we’re in a World Cup year and you all expect amunike to give us a good run ??

All d low grade white coaches wey una Dey praise to high heaven,what exactly is deir achievement with our super eagles…none of dem have achieved something tangible aside westerhoff (94) set,so y d fuss
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:59am On Apr 05
Odunayaw:
False
Prove me wrong
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 7:01am On Apr 05
elyte89:


All d low grade white coaches wey una Dey praise to high heaven,what exactly is deir achievement with our super eagles…none of dem have achieved something tangible aside westerhoff (94) set,so y d fuss

Please calm down I have never made a preference to any coach here both home and abroad

What I’m only saying by merely looking at our league and at our u-23- u20 and u-18

We no get coach for Nigeria make everybody rest

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 7:02am On Apr 05
Meliforme:


You want a coach that has reached the CAF Champions league finals?

I want a coach that’s not backed by his playing days accolades

I want a coach taken a Nigerian team head and shoulders above the rest

From all of the above no Nigerian coach is credible enough in my books

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tessyy1701: 7:47am On Apr 05
typicalgamer:


Please calm down I have never made a preference to any coach here both home and abroad

What I’m only saying by merely looking at our league and at our u-23- u20 and u-18

We no get coach for Nigeria make everybody rest
We get coach, just that NFF are found of employing wrong hand.

Fidelix Ilechukwu are better coach than all our underaged coach but he's not one of NFF resident coaches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 8:43am On Apr 05
typicalgamer:


I want a coach that’s not backed by his playing days accolades

I want a coach taken a Nigerian team head and shoulders above the rest

From all of the above no Nigerian coach is credible enough in my books
the only person I can think of with this profile is kadiri ikhana but it's been long I heard of him.

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