LordReed:


Go ahead, tell me.

shortgun:

Satan is a god, has always been a god and there are many other gods.

Sterope:
Does Judaism have hellfire?

I am curious on the theological context. But you need to be careful about interpretations from other people. The lack of hell makes no sense whatsoever.

Sterope:
No one is begging you to stop. It is a warning for what it is to come.

It is interesting how you view hell as bad. That sounds like the hypocritical western principles westeners rant about when they chant about democracy and human rights. There is nothing evil about consequences.

This is how God sees and how God says it : You were placed on earth for a reason and you chose not to listen. The consequences of that arrogance is on you. It shouldn't matter what punishment it is. You disobeyed and there are promises to be be kept.

Jackanda1:
lols. I don't support the idea of people getting burnt for all eternity for any reason.

This is a part of christianity i still struggle with.

Pimples:


But the Bible teaches that death is the punishment of sin.

When Adam and eve were being warned about disobedience, death was the punishment and not torment.

Genesis 3:3
But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’”

All along death has been the punishment and not burning in fire

Futhermore, at death, a person loses all consciousness and can't feel anything including pain.

Ecclesiaties 9:10
Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.


Ecclesiates 9:5
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.

So how can the clear Bible teaching that we can't feel anything at death compare with burning sensation in hell....?
It defies logic.


As for death being a simple punishment, when you consider that we were originally designed to live forever and Jesus death gives us the opportunity to live forever, a person who dies without the prospect of living forever has lost everything..... That's the ultimate punishment.

johnog4sure:
I wish you take your time to research these things yourself, instead of regurgitating religious doctrines, I dont know why u are attributing it to western culture, I dont see any relationship here, to end this argument let me believe we are not referring to the same God(god).

My God will pay everyone according to his actions (Gal 6:7 He has already set the governing laws), the reason I am placed on earth is NOT to follow any man-made religion with their genocidal doctrines (Islam vs christian both calling themselves infidels and wishing eachother to roast in hell for eternity), I know my purpose on earth, Gen 1:28, My God is not tyrannical, he says: let us reason together (Isa 1:18) He loves us (Rom 8:35-39).

Rossikk:


100% RUBBISH.

THAT BIBLE YOU READ IS FILLED WITH ROMAN LIES.

WE REMAIN CONSCIOUS AND ALIVE AFTER ‘DEATH’ BECAUSE WE ARE POWERFUL IMMORTAL BEINGS,

THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES.

WHEN YOU ‘DIE’, YOU WILL EXIT YOUR BODY, RISE UP, AND BE LOOKING AT YOUR BODY FROM THE CEILING.

YOU WILL REMAIN ALIVE BUT INVISIBLE TO PHYSICAL HUMANS.

BUT YOU WILL BE VISIBLE TO THOSE IN YOUR DIMENSION OF EXISTENCE.

Pimples:


I base my belief on the Bible....and not on near death or out of boby experiences.
How can I discard what the Bible says and accept what people in coma says?
What can I say....
You are entitled to your opinion....

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

Pimples:


Kindly give examples....
And I'll explain.
Meanwhile know that most of the Bibles references to fire are not literal...

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

shortgun:

No, they will be given a second chance after rapture has taken place

shortgun:
Biblically, anyone not saved by Jesus Christ will not go to paradise with Christ when rapture takes place and the people left behind including the ones who didn't have the opportunity to be saved in their life time will be given a second chance to redeem themselves through unimaginable torture and persecution in a world ruled by Satan.

shortgun:

Satan is a god, has always been a god and there are many other gods.

gohf:


1Pet.3.19 So he went and preached to the spirits in prison--
1Pet.3.20 those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood.

shortgun:

1. The verse is talking about the resurrection of Christ in spirit before his resurrection in the body, what he did in the spirit form.
2. The word "preach" in the Bible does not always mean spreading the gospel, it also means to proclaim,teach,address and to speak.
3.The eight people talked about was Noah, his wife, his sons and his son's wives....they are exactly 8 in number

Sterope:
Western ideologies come with the pretext that absolute monarchy is bad etc. Governance is perfect if you enshrined their principles. Which is exactly what you are also doing.

You want God to be in a certain way and if he isn't, you have problem with it. You are the one guilty of regurgitating same arguments that judge God through human lens. God must adhere to your description of what love is and should not roast people for eternity.

gohf:
you can chat me up 07034883485 if you are serious, and please if you are not ready to be patient don't bother.

Sterope:
Are you saying that God and Satan are doing division of labour on the last day?

How did Satan come to exist then?

WorldRichest:


Let's assume there is. That is how I have been living my life. Just follow the Ten Commandments. If after death we discover there is no Hell, then we would have lost nothing

saddler:


Not true.

There is what we call reincarnation.
Its gives the perfect opportunity for rewarding both good and bad past lifes.

Our ancestors knew about and believed it.

Before Christianity came with their nonesense.

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

RisenObinna:

Me too.

Cos if this is true, then God isn't whom they say he is.

vdestro:


No need for whether your ancestors believed it or not. (it could even be that they were referring to the resurrection of the dead as reincarnation)

But to clear all doubt give us some addresses of those who have lived before like some one who was alive during the benin war with britain who came back to live again for us check

Jokerman:


Can you explain what present believers have done to make them escape persecution??

Jackanda1:
lols. I don't support the idea of people getting burnt for all eternity for any reason.

This is a part of christianity i still struggle with.