forgiveness:


Wetin you dey expect? Bruyne to me na okay player. Even Hazard overshadowed him in Belgium National team.

The irony is that Modric is half has talented as Zidane. They both have similar pattern of play but Zidane is head and shoulders above him.

Which attributes dem get Zidane no get?

forgiveness:


Wetin you dey expect? Bruyne to me na okay player. Even Hazard overshadowed him in Belgium National team.

The irony is that Modric is half has talented as Zidane. They both have similar pattern of play but Zidane is head and shoulders above him.

Which attributes dem get Zidane no get?

charlesemeka85:
De Bruyne is a superb player no doubt, I can’t take that off him but saying he is better than almighty zizou is sacrilegious to me and many here who saw the French magician play during his active years

charlesemeka85:
For stat merchants


🇩🇪 Thomas Müller on SPORTBILD:

🗣 "Raw statistics, such as goals or titles, are undoubtedly an important factor. But in the end football is more than that. The magic also lies in aesthetics and elegance.

I once read that I have more involvement in goals than Zinedine Zidane, but I wasn't fooled. Because of the magic of the game and the aesthetics of football, magicians like Messi or Zidane are a completely different category to me."

TheGoodJoe:


The head and shoulders are in attributes Zizou excel in. When it comes to other areas there things these other guys outshine him.

However, it is actually a tactical thing. The tactics today are more demanding and the tactics then gave 10s limited responsibilities.

charlesemeka85:
one thing you should understand is that Chelsea won’t be this bad for a long time. The only reason I think osimhen will choose Paris ahead of chelsea is because of the big wages dangled in his face by PSG

Maybe forgiveness is giving his opinion based on emotions and what his team needs but for me as a non chelsea fan the epl and laliga are where top talents like osimhen test their mettle and he has done more than enough to merit such move

One of the major reason few here wants him in Paris is because of UCL which I know chelsea won’t offer him next season but how possible is it for psg to even make it out of the second round? Also will chelsea be out of the ucl for straight 2-3 seasons? I doubt

Playing in the ucl shouldn’t be the end game here but making a statement with a team capable of going far which I don’t see in this current psg team.

TheSuperNerd:


The same post you quoted was even clear and correcting you that I never compared last season and this season.

I only mentioned between last season's time period and now to make my point on how prolonged your present bad state has lingered.

2020/21 and 21/22 were not as bad as this.

TheGoodJoe:


The head and shoulders are in attributes Zizou excel in. When it comes to other areas there things these other guys outshine him.

However, it is actually a tactical thing. The tactics today are more demanding and the tactics then gave 10s limited responsibilities.

TheSuperNerd:
Get one thing clear. This is not a Chelsea-PSG talk. This is about the best bet for Osimhen. Arsenal is my own pick among the options if they can close this deal.

But on the PSG and Chelsea talks, truth is PSG is currently a better bet than the current Chelsea side. Ligue 1 title is sure for them unlike unstable Chelsea in the EPL. UCL is sure for them too unlike Chelsea who has missed it now for 2 seasons in a row despite their reckless heavy spendings in the transfer market.

Chelsea buy players without an actual strategic blueprint in mind on how best to turn all these talents into a team that can challenge for titles. This is at the root of their problem and the reason why they will keep changing coaches.

Teams enter the market with a plan on how to utilise certain talents in their squad and analyse what he truly brings bit Chelsea just spends and hijack deals these days. It is reckless. I don't want Osimhen in a reckless team.

In the end, I don't want PSG. I don't want Chelsea. But surely PSG edges as the better option to Chelsea for now. But then the decision rests with Osimhen.

I hope Arsenal can come into the picture strongly. They have a fantastic blueprint.

forgiveness:


When did Chelsea miss 2 UEFA competition in a row? Dem only missed this season. Wait for this season to end.

TheSuperNerd:
Get one thing clear. This is not a Chelsea-PSG talk. This is about the best bet for Osimhen. Arsenal is my own pick among the options if they can close this deal.

But on the PSG and Chelsea talks, truth is PSG is currently a better bet than the current Chelsea side. Ligue 1 title is sure for them unlike unstable Chelsea in the EPL. UCL is sure for them too unlike Chelsea who has missed it now for 2 seasons in a row despite their reckless heavy spendings in the transfer market.

Chelsea buy players without an actual strategic blueprint in mind on how best to turn all these talents into a team that can challenge for titles. This is at the root of their problem and the reason why they will keep changing coaches.

Teams enter the market with a plan on how to utilise certain talents in their squad and analyse what he truly brings bit Chelsea just spends and hijack deals these days. It is reckless. I don't want Osimhen in a reckless team.

In the end, I don't want PSG. I don't want Chelsea. But surely PSG edges as the better option to Chelsea for now. But then the decision rests with Osimhen.

I hope Arsenal can come into the picture strongly. They have a fantastic blueprint.

forgiveness:


I don hear but it doesn't change the fact that despite Chelsea's shiiti seasons, they still won laurels.

TheSuperNerd:
Get one thing clear. This is not a Chelsea-PSG talk. This is about the best bet for Osimhen. Arsenal is my own pick among the options if they can close this deal.

But on the PSG and Chelsea talks, truth is PSG is currently a better bet than the current Chelsea side. Ligue 1 title is sure for them unlike unstable Chelsea in the EPL. UCL is sure for them too unlike Chelsea who has missed it now for 2 seasons in a row despite their reckless heavy spendings in the transfer market.

Chelsea buy players without an actual strategic blueprint in mind on how best to turn all these talents into a team that can challenge for titles. This is at the root of their problem and the reason why they will keep changing coaches.

Teams enter the market with a plan on how to utilise certain talents in their squad and analyse what he truly brings bit Chelsea just spends and hijack deals these days. It is reckless. I don't want Osimhen in a reckless team.

In the end, I don't want PSG. I don't want Chelsea. But surely PSG edges as the better option to Chelsea for now. But then the decision rests with Osimhen.

I hope Arsenal can come into the picture strongly. They have a fantastic blueprint.

TheSuperNerd:
I never argued with respect to your winning titles in the past. Just concerned about the bad run from last season till now. This is why I said between last season and the current season, Chelsea has been shitty. Not hating... just saying it as it is. Afterall, I rooted for Chelsea against Bayern in 2012 for obvious reasons. 😁

forgiveness:



Menh!!!!! The bolded is contrast to the new owners strategy.

They definitely have a long time strategy hence the reason they buy players below 23 years for long time bonding but Chelsea fans are saying no way. We want laurels.

You don't have an idea at all. These current owners wnats long term project. They believe in data analyses...what!!!!!!

Wetin concern us with data?

Go and say this in a Chelsea thread and see how dey will laugh at you.

Odunayaw:
VB na weray

Ghana must be bantered anytime the opportunity arises

TheSuperNerd:
Forgiveness, buying young players is not a novel thing anymore. But buying specific young players with a specific blueprint in mind is different.

Trust me, I know. Chelsea currently doesn't buy young players strategically like Real Madrid or Liverpool do even with long term goals in mind.

charlesemeka85:
and what made you believe that players like Zizou won’t adapt to today’s football if they happen to play in this era?

Oga no matter how you twist it Zizou is miles better than Kevin weda in present,past or future football

A player who single handedly won the World Cup for his nation as well as winning balon d’or twice and rated amongst the very best to ever play the game shouldn’t be mentioned in such argue with De bruyne

TheSuperNerd:
Forgiveness, buying young players is not a novel thing anymore. But buying specific young players with a specific blueprint in mind is different.

Trust me, I know. Chelsea currently doesn't buy young players strategically like Real Madrid or Liverpool do even with long term goals in mind.

TheGoodJoe:


I already said it has to do with tactics. Zidane played in a less dynamic system than we have today. So we rate him for the magic and rate the creators today for their intensity. Finito.

charlesemeka85:
the reason it’s that way in chelsea is the current owner

He should hand the footballing aspect of the club to experienced heads and watch Chelsea return to what they use to be

forgiveness:


Are you saying Zidane can't fit into today's "tactics"?

charlesemeka85:
and what made you think that zizizou and his likes won’t adapt to today’s football that is based on high intensity?

Intensity ko!!

TheGoodJoe:


I never said so. I said he is limited due to the tactical depth of his time. The creative players today play with more directness and intensity. Zidane did not have the opportunity. So I rate him for his magic and praise the guys today for their work.

forgiveness:


You don't know anything. So, Nkunku, Enzo, Lavia, Chukwuemeka, Palmer, Petrovic etc are not specific young players with specific blueprints?

Oga, Chelsea are buying 2 young players for each positions and you say what?

Vinicius and Rodrigo were eyesores in their first season. Will you say Real Madrid didn't have a blue print?

Show me any player Chelsea bought above 23 years old save Nkunku?

That's enough to tell you they have long term goals.

charlesemeka85:
and what made you believe that players like Zizou won’t adapt to today’s football if they happen to play in this era?

Oga no matter how you twist it Zizou is miles better than Kevin weda in present,past or future football

A player who single handedly won the World Cup for his nation as well as winning balon d’or twice and rated amongst the very best to ever play the game shouldn’t be mentioned in such argue with De bruyne

TheSuperNerd:
I was coming to the Tood Boehly issue. He is also at the root of the issue on Chelsea's on-pitch woes/unstable showings. He is limiting and confusing the club with his reckless spendings. Providing transfer funds is fantastic because without money you can't go out there and get the best but when it is done without a strategic blueprint, you are just spending money "HOPING" it clicks.

But truly big clubs don't hope in all instances. They are intentional about their spendings and know exactly what they expect to reap from the talents they bring in.

It has worked for Real Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, Bayern and even Chelsea of previous years under Roman.

Todd needs to copy what Liverpool or Arsenal are doing for goodness sake. It is not even rocket science.

forgiveness:


Zidane is a direct player. He is not known for showmanship. I don't understand your point he will be limited. Bawo?

Enoughpull:
Leverkusen 3241 with a highline and a high pressing within the limited space for opponents created by the highline.. How do you tactically beat that as a coach..? No wonder they are unbeaten this season

Odunayaw:
VB na weray

Ghana must be bantered anytime the opportunity arises