PhillipPHD:


You’re on track, but just a few observations.

Learn to write properly my man.

That’s the first step to being an alpha male. Things like “Am” “u” and other unnecessary abbreviations should be unheard of. “Am” is actually the worst because it’s neither an English word nor an abbreviation, straight up blunder.

Also, there’s no need to explain to a lady why you’re doing what you’re doing, let your redpill show by your actions alone, not by telling her or posting on your status, no be cho cho cho, sho workings.

All the best.

PhillipPHD:


You’re on track, but just a few observations.

Learn to write properly my man.

That’s the first step to being an alpha male. Things like “Am” “u” and other unnecessary abbreviations should be unheard of. “Am” is actually the worst because it’s neither an English word nor an abbreviation, straight up blunder.

Also, there’s no need to explain to a lady why you’re doing what you’re doing, let your redpill show by your actions alone, not by telling her or posting on your status, no be by cho cho cho, show workings.

All the best.

PhillipPHD:


You’re on track, but just a few observations.

Learn to write properly my man.

That’s the first step to being an alpha male. Things like “Am” “u” and other unnecessary abbreviations should be unheard of. “Am” is actually the worst because it’s neither an English word nor an abbreviation, straight up blunder.

Also, there’s no need to explain to a lady why you’re doing what you’re doing, let your redpill show by your actions alone, not by telling her or posting on your status, no be by cho cho cho, show workings.

All the best.

SonOfHercules:
https://www.nairaland.com/5322826/ubunjas-miseducation-sweetest-thing-universe#80635825

I always run back here..... We need more from this man. I really miss his miseducation.

Martinez39s:

Nice inquiry. I will not only answer your question, but I will use this as an avenue to drop a long talk on women and infidelity. I believe you will find it invaluable since you are concerned and it's related to your inquiry. A lot won't accept my take, particularly the second take, but we must unveil the realities of female nature in accordance with the objectives of the great thread.

PART 1
Simply put, no man can 100% stop a woman from cheating if she wants to cheat. If you happen to be the most knowledgeable redpiller with an impeccable masculine frame, the same still applies. Even in ancient societies where premarital sex and adultery were punished with death or ostracization/exile and having children out of wedlock or marrying as a nonvirgin brought great shame to the family, there were women who were still cheating. How much more a way lesser stringent time as today?

Checking her phone every now and then, rigorously monitoring her every movement or hiring investigators to monitor her will weary you as you can’t possibly keep it up for too long or cover every avenue for her to cheat; it is an unnecessary waste of time and resources. Doing such is not the stuff of a red pill man as I will explain later if time permits. Don't ever put yourself in a position where you are trying to prevent a woman from cheating on you. Don't go through such stress. A man with a life, who has things going on for him and who has business and more important things to attend to, can’t afford to spend so much time and energy keeping tabs on his woman to make sure she doesn't cheat; even if he does, he cannot maintain it for too long. Such a man can't even cover all avenues available for his wife to cheat because while he is busy, he can't tell what he wife is doing behind his back.

Even if you are jobless and have all the time and energy to track your woman, it's still not a guarantee that you will stop her from cheating or even cover all avenues available to her to cheat. It's still not a guarantee that you will catch her cheating. Besides, a lot of women are smart in how they run their game. No woman is even worth the stress. In fact, your lack of value, mate guarding and the availability of better options for relationships will hasten your worst fears.

So, bro, you can't stop a woman from cheating if she wants to. Red pill won't stop women from cheating on you. Red pill unveils a certain aspect of reality, but it doesn't bestow invincibility in all situations and total control of a woman at all times. In fact, the red pill will make clear that you avoid certain women, certain behaviours, and certain situations for whatever cogent reasons. If you fail to take heed or you get delusional, the red pill won't bail you out.

========
My second, much longer take (part 2) will come later.


To be continued.

Streak47:
Ubunja just disappeared.

Between, have you given that babe a call for an invitation to your crib? If you haven't do so asap!, Keep us posted.

Rizzputin:



I like your story because it is one of the easiest beginner mistakes to solve.

It's also a case where amateur Red pillers will proceed to tell you that the girls is playing you or trying to test you. Meaning, they'll heap all the blame on the girl. When in reality you're the one at fault.
The girl is just responding how every girl would when you make the mistakes you just made

I'm wondering just how much red pill you've taken. Given, you failed a basic rule: Never ever, and I mean ever, ask a girl out you haven't slept with. And even better, never do it before she asks you out first.


This is the problem with "taking pills" it's like substituting natural fruits and vegetables with Vitamin C tablets/pills.

Taking pills doesn't make you better with women. Actually going out, interacting and sleeping with women makes you better with women and female nature.

Anyways... let's look at a few key points:


● Your first mistake was asking how out before sleeping with her. She liked you alot at first but now YOU put yourself as a back up option. Not her.

I saw where you said she's making you a back up. That's not true. You're the one making yourself a back up. It

You see, you can only be 5 materials to a woman:

----Bf material
----husband material
----hook up material
----friendzone material
----utility material

The worst kind is friendzone. The best is hook up material. I have repeated here more times than I count the importance of becoming a man women want and love to fùck. Because everything starts from sex.

But guys often try to be good boyfriends candidates. And the moment you do that, she starts comparing you to other guys. Like she's comparing you now to the Dubai guy.

When a woman gives you greenlight to sleep with her and you start asking her out, you've shown her you do NOT understand the secret society of female nature. You look like an outsider. And you will remain an outsider to her inner desires and cravings. This also applies to asking her out first even if you've slept with her.


● Another reason I'm wondering how much "pill" you've taken is that you are in a far better position than that guy.

A major rule of seduction is: Proximity is King. Meaning, a girl can be drooling over a celebrity in Spain but her classmate that she goes to night class with and sits beside her has a far greater chance of fùcking her and dating her than the Spain guy.

You not knowing this is unbelievable and surprising. The Dubai guy doesn't stand a chance if you seduced her properly. He'll even been sending money that she'll spending on you for fùcking her well.


● Yes she's testing you and trying to make you jealous. Why? Because she's comparing you and wants you to step up.

She's saying "look at your competition... can you do better"

This is a very bad frame to be in. Apart from the fact that she's the one setting it....(always be the one to set frames when possible) She's setting a very bad one that you're ignorantly swimming in.

Remember, you don't play her games or inside her frame. You set your frame and your games so she plays in it. That is seduction.


● Simply invite this girl and fùck her. But to do that, change your strategy and make a move


Act bored NOT jealous when she talks about the other guy. He's irrelevant and a gigantic simp. Because I don't understand why he's proposing marriage to a girl he hasn't met. (Simps will never cease to surprise me)

That guy is playing a losing battle already.

Don't try to present yourself as a bf material to her. Let him waste his time there

Simply switch and be more of a hook up material. Get her wanting to sleep with you NOT date you.

Once you've fùcked her like three times, she'll be hooked on you better


NOTE OF WARNING:

Office romance is risky. So be careful.

Rizzputin:
Finally, a post You've probably been waiting for: A detailed guide on Frames.

It's been long over due. And while this will be a comprehensive post on frames, it won't be sufficient to do enough justice to probably the most important of seduction. Nothing comes close to frames. I'll probably write a separate book on it

Some concepts you'll be familiar with. Others will be presented in new ways. If you haven't honed your frame control, setting and management skills then there are huge holes in your game.

But don't worry, this post will bring you up to speed on the fine art of frame control.

Before I begin, I want to state a note of warning to alfa male fan boys and red pill soy boys: If the truth offends you, resist the urge to mention me with your half baked opinions and false narratives. Trust me, they'll all be treated as troll posts and be ignored

Because I consider the majority of red pillers that speak from book knowledge rather than real life experience as trolls.

So when I see nonsense comments like "She's not yours, it's your turn" OR one that just recently dropped this night "seduction is simping" I laugh and ignore immediately.

If you can't handle the truth, it's best you stop reading here.

However, if you're like others with an open mind, willing to learn and enjoy the beauty that lies in female nature, then walk with me as we dive into what frame really is.


>>>>>What Really Is Frame?

You're probably familiar with the popular concept of masculine frame. Most guys see frame that way.

Meaning, they state something and want it to go their way. Then, they resist any attempt by a girl to change their frame or set hers.

This is fine. And it's a good way to look at when you're just starting out. But frame is much deeper.

Frame is simply the underlying vibe that clouds a relationship or interaction. It's the subcommunication/energy/vibe that exists between people. Frame is fluid and is subject to change at any point.

Your goal as a seducer is to set favourable frames that help you fùck a girl faster and in a smooth way.

Frame is something you communicate. And she does to. Whatever you say or do communicates a frame that is why you should be careful about certain behaviours


>>>>>> Types of frame

Frames exist in different forms:

---- Personal frames
----Vibe frames
----Conversational frames.
----Relationship frames


---- Personal frames: This is what you as a person communicates. You see a girl you like, you walk up to her, get her smiling and hooked...

The frame you're communicating is "I'm a confident guy and I go for what I want"


You tell a girl that's behaving badly to either act right or she'll lose you.... The frame you're communicating is "I like you but my time is valuable so you better act right"

Your choice of clothes and how you walk and talk also communicates a certain frame and attracts girls that want to fall into that frame


---- Vibe frames.

Have you ever walked into a restaurant or a club and just noticed something off between a couple?

Maybe the girl is bored or she's looking uninterested. Or maybe it feels like the woman walks over the man in the relationship


This is a vibe frame. The vibe between them doesn't feel right. The guy is subcommmunicating as a simp. While the girl is subcommunicating like someone who is in charge. Body language is very important when it comes to frames because it makes it frame you're trying to set stronger


---- Conversational frames.

This is the most important of all. To explain I'll use an example that happened recently to me

Three days ago I was vibing with a girl I had met last week and I told her that we should hang out.

Now this was her response. And I want you to pay very close to her response.

She said: "I'm going for my friend's birthday party. You should come so we hang out there and also with my friends"

Remember I said, everything you do or say sets a frame. Including her.

Now I don't need to tell you how unfavourable the frame she set is. Not only did she set a wrong frame for me... she set a bad location.

A party is just a place where I'll end up competing unnecessarily with other guys for her attention (cuz she's hot). Besides it's our first meeting. And parties have a lot of wild cards. Things can go well. Or things can go badly... so much is out of your control.

Now, think of a few replies you can give to her. Your frame has to have a goal. You don't set a frame for the sake of doing it.

Obviously, our goal is that we do not want to join her for the party. But to spend time with her alone and of course, fùck her.

Have you thought of something? Let's look at a few potential replies and the frames they're setting even though they all want the same goal.

We'll use four guys : red piller Ray, Caring Chris, Simp Steven and hook up material Henry.


Red piller Ray would probably say: "I don't want to go to a party with you. I'd prefer if we hang out at somewhere else. That's me. So you can take it or leave it"

The frame here is simply him telling her what he likes and that as the alpha male or leader he is, she should follow his lead.


Then there's Caring Chris: "Im sure a party might be nice but I can't go. And you shouldn't too. Too much alcohol for both of us won't be great


The frame is simple here... he doesn't want to go because he's concerned about her safety... he's trying to be caring towards her.


Next up is Simp Steven: "I want to hang out with just you alone. I don't want other guys dragging you with me"


Simp Steven also doesn't want to go but his frame is needy.


Lastly we have seducer, hook up material Henry: "I'd prefer somewhere lowkey where we can relax and be free so we can be our real selves. Besides what's going to happen when we eventually put ourselves in trouble"


The frame here is that you're low key and the subcomunication that you want things to go down in a place where people won't know.


As you can see all 4 replies have the same goal of not going. But each one is subcommunicating a different frame.


You probably can tell I went with the last reply. And we ended up snagging ourselves the next day.


The red piller reply is to brash and abrasive. It comes from a place of ego rather than actually showing the girl he understands the secret society of female nature.

In his delusional mind by being that direct he thinks he chances are higher, but they are not. And it reduces his odds of success much lower than expected

The second reply about being caring is the kind of sweet boyfriend response. This is the type of frame that'll make the girl see him as a boyfriend therefore making him wait.

No need to show too much care for a girl you haven't slept with.


The third reply by the simp is needy af. The frame is that of "Don't go because I need you"

So as you can see the words you say and how you say them communicates a frame to the girl and puts you in a particular light


----- Relationship Frame:

This is pretty self-explanatory. This is the overall dynamic of the relationship.

Ideally, you look at the relationship for the past 60-90 days. What has the frame been like.

Are you more dominant? Or is she more aggressive and annoying?

Changing the previous 3 frames gradually: personal, vibe and conversation will help form the relationship frame.

They're all building blocks on top each other




>>>>summary


To summarise a frame is like a swimming pool.

Whoever controls or creates the swimming pool dictates how you swim, what you wear to swim, what time to swim, and even if you can swim or not

As a seducer, it's up to you set and create favourable frames that help you sleep with her faster and smoother



Next post:

1) A thread on how to know a woman's body count

2) A "premier league" guide to finding a good girl for marriage/relationship

Dizzyyish:
@Caveadullam @heartofcity12 I haven't seen y'all in a while. How's everything on your ends?

heartofcity12:


Yo bro, I’ve just been taking some time off but I only come here to read other’s posts these days. Everything is alright bro, I hope you’re doing good as well. Thanks for checking 🙏

Martinez39s:
Long time, bro. Glad to hear that all is well.

IAmHim1:
being too judgemental and logical will drive ladies away from you...even guys too


learning to write properly depends on the situation unno.

i used to be against abbreviated words and others like the "am" and the "u" until i learnt that most of these girls aint that educated. some dropped off at Waec and that was it for them

Understand that effective communication depends on if the person youre communicating with understands you. if the person doesnt, you have not communicated at all
Whats the essence of speaking queens to a man or woman who have known pidgin all their life

This user typing used to be against sending voicenotes on whatsapp cus i felt my voice was too precious to be heard anyhow and people should make do with my texts alone but then i discovered that not everyone understands english properly. me not sending voice notes was me judging them.for.not receiving proper education and it was kind of pathetic looking back cus my education was a priviledge NOT A RIGHT. i dont know the pocket of families around me. i felt bad realising this

Now i have discarded that idea. i send voice notes now. it depends on who im chatting with. If i notice youre not that strong with english, ill use voice notes and we'll flow

Streak47:
Ubunja just disappeared.

Between, have you given that babe a call for an invitation to your crib? If you haven't do so asap!, Keep us posted.

heartofcity12:
“Just make money and women will come” - 🤡
Don’t be the nice guy(or yes man) and always maintain a strong masculine frame at any position you are in life, see how she did him dirty despite all his money, look, status and fame..
These men are in love, the women are in business.. His only mistake was getting married and showing love to his wife..

EreluRoz:
I don't want to fight you kos I'm still traumatized by this Nollywood incidence but I promise you a serious fight in few weeks time. I'll show you my old self here in this forum

EreluRoz:
News reaching me is our renowned monk Martinez (real name Anderson) is in a serious relationship and about to get married by December .

I pity the young redpillers who takes whatever they read seriously.

Tranquility2345:


You are a very jobless person. How can someone wake up in the morning and be on Nairaland until midnight and continue again the next day? Don’t you have a life? Friends? Family? Or are you an okpo?

Tranquility2345:


You really need to go and buy a book called Brighter Grammar. You must be a very raz person…

SonOfHercules:
Hi redpillers👋👋👋

It's kinda long I took some redpills so I need some quality advice please.

There's this new girl at my workplace. She likes me and my manager was even hinting at the both of us being in a relationship but I've kinda been off relationship for a while just focusing on my dreams. This girl has been showing me some subtle greenlight and then we started conversing.

We even became paddy but I wanted to take it really slow but later, I sent her a WhatsApp message telling her how I wanted us to be in a relationship but she didn't reply so I let it slide and we kept talking about everything even sex but I didn't ask her out again then she started telling me about a guy she met online that's in Dubai and wants to marry her but she ain't sure the guy really likes her. She said she likes the guy but she ain't sure because she hasn't seen him.

My problem is that she's always talking about this guy. I don't know if she's trying to test if I'll be jealous or what.
But it seems I'm starting to like this girl and I want date her. Now the other guy is discouraging me... Please I need some good advice 🙏

Karlifate:
Dear [young] men,

A man should be a mystery to a woman...

...a mystery she cannot solve.


The masculine aura is in its unpredictability.

You should have different things going on in your life.

You should have a different life that your woman doesn't need to be part of simply by being your woman. She must qualify, and she should know it. 👌


Lay down rules and stick to them.
Don't bend them or make exceptions. 💯


You should not be easily profiled or solved.
If you're solvable, you're controllable & therefore susceptible.


A man should be closed up, not open.

If you act like an open book, she will read the summary & discard you.

Karlifate:



If you don't give a woman drama, she'll give you drama, a chaotic one at that.

Karlifate:


Well, there's this saying that: "nobody cheat pass woman wey dey secured relationship"

This reason why I believe this is 100% true is cos the "secured" / perfect / great relationship is against their chaotic nature. Hence the need to stir up drama out of nowhere.

If a woman keeps badmouthing a certain dude, and still find it difficult to detach herself from the dude and/or the dude's environment, best believe they're fukking or will soon fukk.

The dude elicit the "hatred" emotion within her


They want to feel different range of emotions at (ir)regular intervals, be it happiness, sadness, hatred, anger, love etc.

The worst situation you can find yourself with a woman is to be boring / not evoking series of emotions within her.


She'll make you go crazy with her chaotic drama.

Karlifate:



In sequel:

As a man, you can be many things to women, but you cannot be boring.

Being boring is the cardinal sin of dealing with women.

Playing it safe, predictable, and nice is playing it boring.

You need to be edgy in interactions with women...

...women respond to their imagination of you more than the objective reality of who you are. 💯


Instance 1: If you know that asking a woman for permission before doing something will lead to her losing respect for your authority and ultimately resulting in lackluster sex, then you'll immediately cease this beta male behavior.

Be a leader, not an approval seeking simp.
Be a decisive warrior - not a SIMPu fool.

A woman wants to look up to her man and be challenged (she resents being able to control a man like she controls a dog on a leash), so put yourself on a pedestal and don't ask her permission to do what you have to do.


Instance 2: If you know that giving into a woman's shit tests, only reinforces her negative behavior & will embolden her to progressive violate even more of your boundaries, you won't stand for her bullshit.

The more disrespect you put up with, the more she will disrespect you in the future.

Here is a savage truth about women: they don't respect men that they walk all over, like a doormat.

If a woman treats a man like shit, she will start to believe that he is shit.

Don't be a fucking pushover.
Don't put up with bullshit.

Call women out on their BS behavior.
Communicate boundaries clearly, and be willing to walk if they're violated.


Cc: Disembark

2special:
https://www.nairaland.com/8059989/real-reason-why-kakas-wife

PhillipPHD:


You’re correct. Message and delivery should be patterned according to the audience.

Of all abbreviations, the use of AM must be discontinued, that’s me.

By the way, why pursue relationship with a semi-literate? I thought it was hit and go for that category?

Contextually, you should correct simple errors instead of stooping.

IAmHim1:
am gonna strongly agree with you on your second paragraph

There is something called Business relationship...not all relationship is sexual.

Besides that, SOME semi-illiterate ladies make the best girlfriends/partner. They can be taught. You cant fill a bottle that has been filled already...unless you pour our its content as girls aint gonna be ready to unlearn for the sake of marriage. Refer back to Ubunjas Men sacrifice is different from women sacrifice in marriage

Not too educated and not too illiterate. The perfect girl. Thats why you see city boys coming to the village to find a wife. Its not always gonna be a happy ending but it is what it is. Compared to some city babes

most village girls were raised in a way to think that the society is always watching kinda. like "what would my mummy and daddy think. What of my people in the village if they find out"

Village girls were raised by the whole society while city girls were raised by families which are mostly busy chasing a 9-5


most city girls have sex on live TV and say its part of female empowerment. dpesnt make sense logically but thats what emotions is all about: it cant coexist with direct logic...but indirect logic on the other hand dot dot dot[left][/left]

Tranquility2345:


This one think say BTW means between. Hiss

CaveAdullam:
The conversation I had with a Nairalander a few minutes ago.

PS: There are a couple of nuances I didn't dwell on (got tired of typing). Any addition or rebuttal will be welcomed.

Thanks.

Tranquility2345:


Guy, you have bigger problems than women. Look at a broke guy wey no go university doing a menial job wasting his time on woman and nacking matter when you never chop beleful. I really pity you and your poor parents. If you like no go focus on how to improve your situation and make a better life for yourself and family in the future. Continue to dey listen to children online. I can bet that this girl wey you dey talk about na one dirty house girl..