AqualinaXYZ:
Then divide the damn country






Bloody Unity beggars

You dey mind him. Nigeria ripe for corruption, tribalism, and nepotism not state policing.

garfield1:


What is the difference between what you suggested to what I suggested? Is it not limiting the state and fg from controlling the police like in the USA?
APC has liberalized and opened the polity,expanded government.more Nigerians have benefited from APC than in any other govt.apc has almost destroyed Boko Haram,carried out more infrastructural projects than any civilian govt.apc introduced a new electoral system,decentralized and reduced the exclusive list,encouraged massive local content

Since 2015 Nigerians have had 50% of their wealth whipped out by APC as shown by our GDP and you are here talking that Nigerians have benefited more from APC?

How do too guys say this thing with a straight face

Which infrastructure are you talking about the ones that u borrowed money to increase our recurrent expenditure?

Name one infrastructure APC did that can break even

THIS IS TALKING NONSENSE. MAKE AN NYSC, WITH A PHD IN GENERAL PHILOSOPHY, AN IGP IN SAY ONDO STATE, TO BE RESPONSIBLE DIRECTLY TO THE STATE GOVERNOR, HE WILL SHINE BETTER ON SECURITY ISSUES THAN EGBETOKUN. IS HE UNDER SPELL FOR SPEWING OUT THIS RUBBISH?

I am 100% in favour of state police, i also know some states cannot afford the costs or the manpower to do so. I am sure today's politicians will abuse that authority. My suggestion is to make all and if not all majority of federal police officers in each state to come from that state with the IGP as the overseer. The reason being they will know the terrain, language, tribal or religion of the area that they are familiar with.

Anyone that is mad at the term NIGGER should realize that Niggers exist…right there in Abuja.


HOW THE HEL.L is a police officer making political statements….

Is that his godayum role?

Who voted for him to talk?

But of course, it is a zoo… that is essentially what the Nigger said….not mature nation EEEH….. Childish, lazy youth…jealousy and greedy dancing fools….yep.

Shake nyash at church, shake nyash at school, at club, at naming ceremonies, on instagram….. LOL

Nonsense! If after 60 years of independece we are not ready for state police, then when will we be ready. The IGP and his type just want to continue this model of excess power at the center which gives them the opportunity to chop and chop with no limit. We need to restructure the nation and breaking up the police not just into state but also city police is badly needed

Either u like it or not, that is the truth.

RIPE OR NOT RIPE, NIGERIA VALUES FULL AUTONOMOUS POLICING RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING STATUSES FOR ALL OUR 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES NOW NOW NOW.

This man no want raval, with all what is going on in Nigeria, if we train people they we do it is protecting is work he don't want conpition

nairalanda1:


Good. Have a good day.

This is graceless. And eminently cowardly.

Useless people. Useless country. Nigeria will never be ripe even in the next hundred years. Let crime and insecurity continue. E go soon reach one of you.

His opinion...his boss the president and the party the president belong to .. promised Nigerian devolution of powers ..till now we are yet to see that happening..plus the Nigerian police force is over stretched..state police can take care of things like security and traffic plus some minor jurisdictions.excluded from anything elections, investigations of all sorts be it civil or criminal.. anything the governors can make them useful for should not be allowed ..the clamor foe state police is mainly for security of the states nothing more ..that should be done .and already in the north and lagos there are state police in other names amotekun.. neighborhood watchood,lastma,hisbah...vigilante in borno ans in jos ..they dont do investigations but they protect the people.

DeepSight:


This is graceless. And eminently cowardly.

Thanks. Have a good one.

(After all, you called me an ignoramus, a drunkard, and you also decided to abuse me in discussing with others, so, no response for you.

I can't hold a discussion with someone who just wants to abuse me. It won't be productive. You will just call me names and then pretend you didn't do so or justify it.

Better learn your own lesson too. You are not a child, this ain';t a playground. You can't just abuse others and expect them to suddenly be corteous to you when you ain't.

You won't call a fellow learned friend who disagrees with you drunk and an ignoramus too.



Have a good day anyway, old man.

(FIN).

nairalanda1:


Thanks. Have a good one.

(After all, you called me an ignoramus, a drunkard, and you also decided to abuse me in discussing with others, so, no response for you.

I can't hold a discussion with someone who just wants to abuse me. It won't be productive. You will just call me names and then pretend you didn't do so or justify it.

Better learn your own lesson too. You are not a child, this ain';t a playground. You can't just abuse others and expect them to suddenly be corteous to you when you ain't.

You won't call a fellow learned friend who disagrees with you drunk and an ignoramus too.



Have a good day anyway, old man.

(FIN).

It is a pity, but in addition to all of those things, none of which I withdraw, you are also a coward.

You probably don't want to admit the root of your defense of all things government, and this is why you avoid this question.

I on the other hand, have nothing to hide.

If police was doing their job well no one will demand state police.

Nigeria police will do nothing while Miyetti Allah sponsored Fulani terrorists wipe out entire villages all over Nigeria.

Anyone opposing state police at this point is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer.

Before he grew up to join the police, Nigeria had regional (state) police before Gowon and other evil minded fellows set us back. There was council police which in some local southwestern communities was called 'olopa fedeco'. For whatever he wants to enjoy now, the old man wants to destroy tomorrow. Does he want to enjoy his office, go back home and wait for Nigeria to happen to him before he realises he has undone himself. Obasanjo said last year they all said no to it, but now they've realised it is necessary'. But this destroyer of future generations is singing the devil's anthem.

He has travelled and attended courses in UK, US, etc but is incapable of replicating good policing examples he saw there to the benefit of Nigerians yet he he would gladly spew nonsense. Somebody tell that wicked man we will have state police and live a better life to his shame. Instead of creating a solution, they just sit down there saying good things are impossible. Bad people.

How much is garri in your area..
Hunger what finished me.


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masseratti:
His opinion...his boss the president and the party the president belong to .. promised Nigerian devolution of powers ..till now we are yet to see that happening..plus the Nigerian police force is over stretched..state police can take care of things like security and traffic plus some minor jurisdictions.excluded from anything elections, investigations of all sorts be it civil or criminal.. anything the governors can make them useful for should not be allowed ..the clamor foe state police is mainly for security of the states nothing more ..that should be done .and already in the north and lagos there are state police in other names amotekun.. neighborhood watchood,lastma,hisbah...vigilante in borno ans in jos ..they dont do investigations but they protect the people.

You're right. In addition, state police should completely handle state affairs while federal police should concentrate on FG matters. Then there the state police law should be made to ensure the governors don't have total control of state police as obtainable in the US, the UK and other places with good policing examples. In UK, you become commissioner of police of your county by election, not by a political leader's appointment. We can look around and put things together for better experience rather than guaging our lives with satanic 1999 constitution.

DeepSight:


It is a pity, but in addition to all of those things, none of which I withdraw, you are also a coward.

You probably don't want to admit the root of your defense of all things government, and this is why you avoid this question.

I on the other hand, have nothing to hide.

Okay..have a good day.

Enjoy yourself

DeepSight:


Private. I am a lawyer.

If someone was abusive to you on this site, you won't hold a discussion with that person.

You should think on that more often, good lawyer.

What you do to others always comes back to you.

Good evening and good luck

I blame whoever gave the federal police an opportunity to mouth an opinion about potential rival like state police. It's like asking a wolf if the fox should be introduced into the same forest.
FGN police is so myopic that they can't and won't see how state police will benefit the nation and even enhance their own jobs.

That is the absolute truth. State police won't change the security situation and will only be a tool in the hands of the governors. That is the security aspect.

As for politics, if Tinubu is truly worth anything politically then he must not make the mistake of allowing state police, else he will regret it.

As for Nigeria, it will be total chaos.

DeepSight:


Your cowardice emerged with your asking me the same question back only to scurry away with your tail between your legs on account of the impending revelation of the reason for your absurd anti people notions.

And if you think I have any regrets over anything distasteful I have said to you, you will be off your rockers. The reason for this is that I am militant when it comes to the suffering imposed on Nigerians by a rapacious and corrupt elite, as I am conscious of how it actually costs lives and the level of human misery it entails.

I therefore will never countenance the voodoo arguments of the accursed political elite and their Bretton Woods advisers and I will always hold nothing but the deepest contempt for those pitiful self hating creatures such as yourself who support and endorse such.

Okey dokey

Politically uninitiated IG.

He wants continuity of the present system where Abubakar who doesn't know anything about the SW or SE region polices in the south, and Okoro or an Ajibode who doesn't know anything about northern Nigeria is placed to police the northern region. Crime proliferated.

The type of security challenge will are having in nigeria is terrorism, banditry and kidnapping. Which has overwhelmed the power of our police and military. Terrorists carry sophisticated weapons and sometimes they overpowered our police and military even with their gun trucks. Military and federal police are overpowered throughout the nation because they're having Inadequate manpower, training, welfare and equipments, then will want to go for state police, which will have lesser training, allowances, equipment and orientation compare to the federal police.

The IGP will still be in charge of all policing system in the country if u don't know. America has only one police of chief, which the states police commander gv reports to. And we have to consider the condition of police in America b4 they switched into state policing system. Is like boko harams are killing our army In the north, then we now say all man'o war of each northan state should be facing them instead. Any police that will have below standard to this nigeria policing system is not a police anymore, but a way to solve problem of unemployment. Instead nigeria should merge NSCDC to police and work in their respective state as state police, with the same uniforms and same CG but under the umbrella of police as they have had enough training atleast, but they should be under federal government payroll. Because nigerian governor can never pay any police, we shouldn't deceive ourselve.And nigeria will do enough to added to personal of mobile police and our military, with alot of equipment, training and good welfare so that they can end the problem of banditry and terrorism. Because state police can never be enough to tackle the challenge that has overwhelmed the military. Then maybe after we have a balance and standard police and military which have enough numbers of personnel and pays with equipment they needed[color=#990000][/color], then we can now proceed on creating a state or community police.

State wey never pay minimum wage some state police go suffer

But let state that can afford it start it

Hezzyluv:
Police NP don't want subsidiary atall.

They frowned at Civil Defense but it amout to efforts in futility. Na so them frustrated peace Corps sotey the thin died. Now, na state police be their wahala.



Ok, tell the reasons!

Selfish or parochial positions of some people in the south of Nigeria is reason why Nigeria's political structure and government system remain the fraud they are, as created and imposed by military dictators from the North. This IG speaks like he lives in Mars.

garfield1:


It is better the president alone uses them to witch hunt than for governors to do same.it will be too much for the citizenry to take.eveb the governors have some form of control over the police esp in elections but once they fail in securing their states,they blame it on lack of state policing...

In any case,what we need is community policing or the type of state police that exists in America where each town,settlement or city operates it's own police answerable to the town council led by a mayor and then the state have its own police and the federal have FBI.i think the east has something similar where each town esp anambra has its vigilante service that is answerable to each town union led by the king and the PG.the governor will have little or no control over them except in anambra vigilante service or bakassi boys.i think Nigeria should adopt that method

who going to pay them. if is lead by the town council

The election part is the biggest problem with state police but the insecurity will facing na state police good for am.


Bcoz the president can't verify the number of police station in the country given to him by the IGP

But with state police every station can be verified by the governor

The governor can monitor development of police station, barrack, police hospital etc.


In America we have 911 emergency.call centre for health care ND security. In which in Nigeria is the governor can provide that

mrvitalis:

Since 2015 Nigerians have had 50% of their wealth whipped out by APC as shown by our GDP and you are here talking that Nigerians have benefited more from APC?

How do too guys say this thing with a straight face

Which infrastructure are you talking about the ones that u borrowed money to increase our recurrent expenditure?

Name one infrastructure APC did that can break even

The second Niger bridge which your people benefit from heavily,loko oweto bridge,keffi-makurd- akwanga road,abj-kad, lag-ibadan road and rail,bodo-bonny road...
Thousands benefited from the traders money and market money schemes,from the covid 19 loan,nirsal loan,anchors borrowers scheme...
Under apc,we started massive rice production.the closing of borders has encouraged thousands of businesses,strengthened agriculture,minimum wage is now 33k and will soon increase any moment.the student loan scheme has been debuted to assist indigent students.local manufacturers and businessmen like innoson,Allen onyema,pro Force said fg is their greatest customer and supporter.see how APC govt encouraged dangote refinery and now bua refinery.

fergie001:


SOURCE

What is the role of civil defense? Can't they be used as state police?

nairalanda1:
[s]We are not ripe for state police.

Ultimately, the problem is funding for me. All my other objections, I have dismissed them, even the tribalism and religion one. If state police is going to be tribalistic, they will end up losing investors. Bad news. SO, state police is going to work.

But funding is a big problem. A BIG PROBLEM. States that most cannot pay the current mininum wage, talkless new wage...are now going to fund state police. Okay. Either state starts charging everyone tax...which I know Nigerians don't like, or they take loan, and more loan. (Forget federal funding. ).

We too dey like copy other countries. Yes, USA Has state police, and also USA has a diversifed economy with everyone..almost everyone...paying taxes. Not like Nigeria where most of us do not pay tax. Even the one we pay, can only cover 20% of our income. We are not funding our National police force well enough...we spend less than one tenth what New York CITY (Not the state ) spends to police 200 million people. It's a miracle we have not crashed into anarchy by now. Yet we expect the NPF to perform like NYPD. Na magic thinking be that.

If I suggest we should do things like pay tax, remove subsides to find more money, and so forth, people will abuse me. Yet people are here calling for state police that their state cannot fund. Some will even call for regions to come back so that we can have regional police...it's like people do not know why we have states, and no, it is not because of Gowon. State issues started in the first republic...that is why we ended up with Midwestern region...and we would have even gotten middle belt region if not for the 66 coup.

LIke now, Zamfara state is poor, broke and has a massive kidnapping problem and bandit issue. It needs a state police that is well armed, and has things like drones, aeroplanes, tactical gear, good arms, and specialist commando style police. How is it going to be funded? From the state's brokeass funds. Same for kaduna. Lagos needs a proper urban force...HECK, Lagos needs a police force like the NYPD , with funding of 10 billion dollars or more per annum...otherwise it would be ineffective. Borno, we know. Even Anambra and Enugu need a well funded force...with esn. I haven't mentioned fulani herdsmen issues...you need something like a well armed police force AND a well armed specialist SPESTNAZ (google it) type force. Otherwise, wahala go start.

I tell you, unless we are ready to make some tough sacrfices, instead of expecting oil money to cover everything....we can't have state police. God knows, I wish it was otherwise. We never even adequately fund our own police force self...with wretched housing on top.

Are we all ready to pay half our income, including people in villages, and poor city dwellers...in tax, to ensure that we get a well functioning state police. And please, that thing called security vote....e no fit fund am. [/s]

You yarned trash!!