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budaatum:
Evolution is not a thing to believe in or not, as that's like claiming to believe in oxygen or not But you obviously know nothing about evolution and should educate yourself.

Ha! It’s funny that you think some Christians are not well-read simply because they believe in the Bible as the authoritative word of God. Perhaps you assume we are ignorant or not well-versed in such matters. Well, I know a thing or two about evolution, and as you said, I don’t have to believe in it. I know with all my heart that it is 100% false. I also wouldn’t compare evolution to oxygen because everyone knows that air is what allows us to breathe and stay alive, even if not everyone knows it scientifically as "oxygen."


https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101#79231074

Yes! Though I must ask, salvation from what exactly?

Salvation means understanding that we are inherently sinful creatures. Our hearts are in rebellion against God (no mortal man is righteous before Him), and because of this, we cannot stand before Him. Yet, in His grace, He sent His Son, Christ, who lived the perfect life we cannot live and offered Himself as a perfect sacrifice for us. For those who are in Christ, God made Him, who knew no sin, to become sin for us, so that in Him, we might become the righteousness of God. This means God treats us as though we have lived Christ’s righteous life. As a result, we are saved from the coming wrath of God.

Understanding Jesus Christ and the entire Bible is much more beneficial than ignorant blind faith.

To believe in Christ and the entire bible is not ignorant blind faith. I don't know where you got that idea from. And to claim you may understand Christ and not believe entirely in Him or His word may actually prove to me that you don't really understand Him as you said.

GreatAchiever1:
Ha! It’s funny that you think some Christians are not well-read simply because they believe in the Bible as the authoritative word of God.

Stop making crap up about me please. I have Christians in my very own family who are so well read to PhD level and are pastors, so it would be very stupid of me to believe Christians don't read when I know otherwise.

GreatAchiever1:
Salvation means understanding that we are inherently sinful creatures.

Talk about yourself please. Some are not inherently sinful creatures, so do not need to wallow in stupid self pity.

GreatAchiever1:
To believe in Christ and the entire bible is not ignorant blind faith.

For me, it is very ignorant to believe anything without bothering to check if what you believe is true or not. And having lived amongst the British who brought you the Bible and don't believe it anymore, it is my opinion that those who do believe without seeking understanding are ignorant.

Better is to understand the Bible and God and Jesus, for only then will you be able to do greater things than have been done.

budaatum:
Talk about yourself please. Some are not inherently sinful creatures, so do not need to wallow in stupid self pity.

The human heart (including the mind) has been completely depraved since the fall. This is why God promised about the Messiah to redeem mankind, as He foretold when speaking to Eve, saying that Christ would bruise the serpent’s head.

Anytime one reads the Bible, it is impossible to miss how it emphasizes our total depravity. It speaks of hearts being desperately wicked and minds being hostile toward God, unable to subject themselves to His law. It also declares that no one does good—not even one. This is because even the good deeds of fallen humanity are not motivated by a desire to please God but by self-interest, making them inherently corrupted.

So, when I say mankind is totally depraved, I am not merely speaking about myself but affirming what the Bible says about humanity after the fall.

For me, it is very ignorant to believe anything without bothering to check if what you believe is true or not. And having lived amongst the British who brought you the Bible and don't believe it anymore, it is my opinion that those who do believe without seeking understanding are ignorant.

Better is to understand the Bible and God and Jesus, for only then will you be able to do greater things than have been done.

Well, the Bible didn’t originate from the British. Yes, I know it was William Tyndale who translated the Bible into English, and I believe he was British, but that doesn’t mean the Bible came from them. As you likely know, the original languages of the Bible were Hebrew for the Old Testament and Koine Greek for the New Testament. During the New Testament era, there was also the Septuagint, which was the Greek translation of the Old Testament.

Besides, even if all of Britain who translated it to English no longer believes in the Bible, that doesn’t make it untrue.

You can only truly understand the Bible if you have faith to believe what you comprehend. And even that faith is not something we possess on our own, because the Bible says it is a gift from God, not something earned by our works or merits.

GreatAchiever1:
The human heart (including the mind) has been completely depraved since the fall.

You read that in a book that was written by humans, and I am informing you that what you call a fall was Eve freeing the stupid ignorant enslaved Adam from slavery. I am delighted however that you do not believe me, because if you believe me, you have not used your own heart and soul and mind and being to seek the truth for yourself.

I hope you would wonder how humans that it is written were created in God's image to rule and multiply and subdue the entire earth and eat every seed bearing fruit, fell to the point that they should not eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and work naked in a tiny garden.

If I want to create ignorant almanjeris, I will make them believe they will die if they nourish themselves with knowledge. That way, I wouldn't even need to police them not eating knowledge because they will police themselves and be ignorant and more easily controlled by me who will then send my own children to Oxford and Cambridge and Harvard and Yale to gouge on fruits of knowledge and return to rule over you.

Note below what is written kills in the Bible. It is not knowledge. Then go check the life expectancy in Nigeria and compare it to that of non-god believing Japan.

Ref: https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass

GreatAchiever1:
You can only truly understand the Bible if you have faith to believe what you comprehend.

James will respond to the above with "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him?"

GreatAchiever1:
Have you even read what came about that "curse" in Gen 3:16. If man and woman are equal, then why do they have different roles with woman created to be helper for a man given that man was not created for woman but woman for man.
Then answer this question pre fall, if Adam never had authority over Eve as you claimed pre-fall.
1. Why was Adam created before Eve?
2. Why did Adam have a protective role over Eve in the garden.
3. Why did Adam had a teaching role to Eve in the garden.
4. Why did Adam name Eve if Eve didn't belong to him to rule and have authority over her?
5. Why did God went to Adam first after both he and Eve sinned even though Eve sinned first.
6. Why did God rebuke Adam for listening to Eve.

Man having authority over woman was entirely the plan of God before the fall. The hierarchy has always been God->Man->Woman->Children before and after the fall.

The concept of a husband's authority and a wife's submission was not introduced as a consequence of the fall, as some like you want to interpret Genesis 3:16. Instead, this hierarchical relationship was part of God's original created order but became distorted by the fall. Like all aspects of creation, the relationship between husband and wife is now vulnerable to corruption due to sin. However, the hierarchy between the sexes originates from creation, not the fall, and is intended to be embraced as part of God's good design, not rejected.

Genesis 2:24-25
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Adam naming Eve can be seen as a recognition of their mutual dependence. Since Adam and Eve did not have earthly parents, God ultimately represents their parent. You won't find any instance in the Bible where God intervened in their relationship.

They shared the same authority, and their relationship was based on mutual respect for one another.

Eve had access to the same things as Adam and both were naked, there is nothing that signifies Adam had authority over Eve.

Kingju:
God said Let's make a helper for the man, you no read that part?

In the beginning God saw the man was lonely and He created a helpmate which is woman to be his companion and assistance, He didn't make man a ruler over woman. It was after the sin in the Garden of Eden that man had authority over woman.

Helpmate is simply a mate or partner who provides assistance and companionship.

Kingju:
As long as Feminism doesn't affect a woman to think that she's equal to a man then no ish, coz Holy Bible said the Man is the head and leader

Taking the position of the head is merely a tradition and not the true Biblical standard. If you have read and understood the Bible, you would recognize this. I can only advise submission when the man is loving.

Merry100:
In the beginning God saw the man was lonely and He created a helpmate which is woman to be his companion and assistance, He didn't make man a ruler over woman. It was after the sin in the Garden of Eden that man had authority over woman.

Helpmate is simply a mate or partner who provides assistance and companionship.

What does the word assistance mean to you? If you're in an organization and i brought an assistant to help you, shea you and the assistant would be of the same status? You don see where assistant and oga get same status? Why do ogas have assistant? Abi na English dey confuse you?

That aside sef, shea after the sin, God sha made the man the head? Why the long English when it is the current standing rule? Abi did God established another new rule recently to cancel the Garden of Eden rule?

Merry100:
Taking the position of the head is merely a tradition and not the true Biblical standard. If you have read and understood the Bible, you would recognize this. I can only advise submission when the man is loving.

There's nothing like tradition there, the Biblical God is a God of order, He's Words are clear and concise in the Bible. The man is the ruler, as simple as ABC. When God came into the Garden of Eden, who did he ask the first question to? Who did he assign all the work to? If you give birth to kids in the house, the first child takes responsibility of his younger one especially when you step out, abi you go call the last child give am responsibility? Make una stop all this una pattern of trying to twist the Holy Bible to fit you people's agenda. Btw, who even talks of feminism in 2025?

Kingju:
There's nothing like tradition there, the Biblical God is a God of order, He's Words are clear and concise in the Bible. The man is the ruler, as simple as ABC. When God came into the Garden of Eden, who did he ask the first question to? Who did he assign all the work to? If you give birth to kids in the house, the first child takes responsibility of his younger one especially when you step out, abi you go call the last child give am responsibility? Make una stop all this una pattern of trying to twist the Holy Bible to fit you people's agenda. Btw, who even talks of feminism in 2025?

At the time God assigned tasks to Adam, He did not plan to create another human being. He created another human being because man was lonely and found it difficult to exist without a friend or partner.

What man needed was a partner, not a maid, servant, slave, or subordinate. Everything Adam needed was already within his reach; he did not have to till the ground for food at that time.

God did not provide any indication or instruction that man is the ruler. He created another human being just like man and did not assign a lesser status or ability to this second human being. The only primary difference between a man and a woman lies in their reproductive organs, which needs each other to function. Yet, you are assuming that man is the ruler. Dey play.

Kingju:
What does the word assistance mean to you? If you're in an organization and i brought an assistant to help you, shea you and the assistant would be of the same status? You don see where assistant and oga get same status? Why do ogas have assistant? Abi na English dey confuse you?

That aside sef, shea after the sin, God sha made the man the head? Why the long English when it is the current standing rule? Abi did God established another new rule recently to cancel the Garden of Eden rule?

Assistance is the act of providing support or aid to someone in need, often by sharing tasks or responsibilities to make a process easier or more manageable.

Men and women are partners. In companies, partners share tasks and responsibilities and work together to achieve common goals.

What I am sharing now is just a glimpse of my discoveries. I have made several findings that challenge the misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries.

Merry100:
Genesis 2:24-25
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

You are really trying hard to bring up text that doesn't answer the question that I asked, how does one flesh correlate with what I just asked. But let me refute this and clearly explains how the one flesh relationship between the husband and the wife ought to be. The bible clearly defines how the relationship of the one flesh ought to be in Ephesians 5:22-33; Colossians 3:18,19; 1 Peter 3:1-7.

Adam naming Eve can be seen as a recognition of their mutual dependence. Since Adam and Eve did not have earthly parents, God ultimately represents their parent. You won't find any instance in the Bible where God intervened in their relationship.

God named Adam, would you say it was a recognition of their mutual dependence? parents named their children, would you say it's a recognition of their dependence? humans name their pet animals (Adam did likewise also) would you say it's a recognition of their mutual dependence?

They shared the same authority, and their relationship was based on mutual respect for one another.

Eve had access to the same things as Adam and both were naked, there is nothing that signifies Adam had authority over Eve.

Mutual Respect and love for one another is essential in marital relationship and that tone on how to go about it according to the specific gender in the relationship has been set by Him who creates the marital institution. It's hierarchical and not equal balance of shared authority but the Husband having full and total authority over his wife as well as the household.

budaatum:
If you are talking cause, you would not be talking Bible, since Bible is not cause but later programming.

I don't know or care if God is in favour of feminism. What I do know is if not for the female, men would still be apes at best. The story where Eve used her brain to free Adam from ignorant naked slavery proves this point, as does educated Mary educating her son Jesus so he is not today known as the saviour of wood.

"Mary educated Jesus", this is a ridiculous theory

Wallade:
"Mary educated Jesus", this is a ridiculous theory

It is, isn't it. But lets check, shall we, or rather, lets check your Bible knowledge.

Was Mary from an educated family?

Could she read?

Did she quote from a book?

Answers please.

budaatum:
It is, isn't it. But lets check, shall we, or rather, lets check your Bible knowledge.

Was Mary from an educated family?

Could she read?

Did she quote from a book?

Answers please.

Tell us what you know about Mary and how she educated Jesus Christ.

Please quote bible references.

Tell us the part of bible that told you Mary's parents and background.

Wallade:
Tell us what you know about Mary and how she educated Jesus Christ.

Please quite bible references.

Tell us the part of bible that told you Mary's parents and background.

Don't you think you should answer my questions first, or at least say you can't before asking me to answer your questions?

budaatum:
Don't you think you should answer my questions first, or at least say you can't before asking me to answer your questions?

The bible has no notable and significant record or Mary (mother Jesus) background and parents.

Mary was not extensively discussed in the bible. She and Joseph were more relevant in the pre-birth of Jesus

Show us if you think otherwise and please quote the bible references to buttress your points.

Wallade:
The bible has no notable and significant record or Mary (mother Jesus) background and parents.

Mary was not extensively discussed in the bible. She and Joseph were more relevant in the pre-birth of Jesus

Show us if you think otherwise and please quote the bible references to buttress your points.

This is what happens when you read only one book instead of every word that proceeds from God's mouth so to speak.

When Mary was three years old, Joachim and Anne, her parents, in fulfillment of her divine promise, brought Mary to the Temple of Jerusalem, where they left her to be brought up, which is like putting her in boarding school to learn.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saints-Anne-and-Joachim

budaatum:
This is what happens when you read only one book instead of every word that proceeds from God's mouth so to speak.

When Mary was three years old, Joachim and Anne, her parents, in fulfillment of her divine promise, brought Mary to the Temple of Jerusalem, where they left her to be brought up, which is like putting her in boarding school to learn.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saints-Anne-and-Joachim

Madam, what book is this?

Is this the bible? I asked you to quote from the Bible.

This account that you present is not in the Bible. It also doesn't say much about Mary and her parents.

GreatAchiever1:
You are really trying hard to bring up text that doesn't answer the question that I asked, how does one flesh correlate with what I just asked. But let me refute this and clearly explains how the one flesh relationship between the husband and the wife ought to be. The bible clearly defines how the relationship of the one flesh ought to be in Ephesians 5:22-33; Colossians 3:18,19; 1 Peter 3:1-7.



God named Adam, would you say it was a recognition of their mutual dependence? parents named their children, would you say it's a recognition of their dependence? humans name their pet animals (Adam did likewise also) would you say it's a recognition of their mutual dependence?



Mutual Respect and love for one another is essential in marital relationship and that tone on how to go about it according to the specific gender in the relationship has been set by Him who creates the marital institution. It's hierarchical and not equal balance of shared authority but the Husband having full and total authority over his wife as well as the household.

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Your perspective seems to be stating that God is forgetful.

According to your perspective, God just neglected to mention it explicitly, He actually designated man as the ruler over woman from the beginning but why did God say "he shall rule over thee" while pronouncing the consequences for Eve's actions, despite already designating man as a ruler over woman. Do you mean God forgot that man was already ruling over woman? 🤣🤣🤣

Mr man, try to be logical. Adam and Eve didn't share our cultural perspective. Culture, which was created much later perhaps created the notion that naming someone gives you authority over the person.

At the time of creation, there were no established family structures, societal hierarchies, or precedents for naming as a means of authority.

Adam and Eve were the very first humans created by God, unlike subsequent generations that arise within established societal norms, Adam and Eve existed in a primal state, free from cultural traditions.

Adam and Eve were a unique and direct act of divine creation. Both were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:27). This common divine imprint suggests an inherent equality between them. Both shared equal worth and dignity, indicating that their relationship reflect equality rather than a hierarchy.

Adam and Eve were both giving dominion over the animals and tasked with stewarding the garden, which is an indicative of their collaborative role.

A woman is a "helper". In the original Hebrew, the term "ezer" (helper) refers to strength and support, not slavery or subservience. 🤣🤣🤣

Genesis 1:26-27
26. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

GreatAchiever1:
You are really trying hard to bring up text that doesn't answer the question that I asked, how does one flesh correlate with what I just asked. But let me refute this and clearly explains how the one flesh relationship between the husband and the wife ought to be. The bible clearly defines how the relationship of the one flesh ought to be in Ephesians 5:22-33; Colossians 3:18,19; 1 Peter 3:1-7.



God named Adam, would you say it was a recognition of their mutual dependence? parents named their children, would you say it's a recognition of their dependence? humans name their pet animals (Adam did likewise also) would you say it's a recognition of their mutual dependence?



Mutual Respect and love for one another is essential in marital relationship and that tone on how to go about it according to the specific gender in the relationship has been set by Him who creates the marital institution. It's hierarchical and not equal balance of shared authority but the Husband having full and total authority over his wife as well as the household.

🤣🤣🤣So, the same God who clearly stated that He has given both male and female dominion over animals neglect to mention that man is the ruler over woman?

Set aside your assumptions and guesses, explain what God meant when He directly said to woman "He shall rule over thee." 🤣🤣🤣

What I have been sharing is just even a glimpse of my discoveries. I have made several findings that challenge the misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries and rule out those Bible verses indicating submission. 🤣🤣🤣

Wallade:
Madam, what book is this?

Is this the bible? I asked you to quote from the Bible.

This account that you present is not in the Bible. It is also doesn't say much about Mary and her parents.

You don't dictate to me what book I quote just because you've only read one book.

Read more please instead of living by bread alone.

budaatum:
You don't dictate to me what book I quote just because you've only read one book.

Read more please instead of living by bread alone.

If you can't quote from the bible, then you talking trash or someones personal opinion.

There is no significant record or evidence that Mary was schooled, from rich parents or that she schooled Jesus Christ.

She was simply a vessel chosen by God to birth Christ - the God that became man - on earth.

I don't read nonsense. That article you read is nonsense.

At the end of your submission, you now chose to use words referenced in the bible. You think you can talk anything about Christianity without proper references in the bible.

Wallade:
If you can't quote from the bible, then you talking trash or someones personal opinion.

I shake my head at your limitations and pray you one day widen your horizon, for there's a lot of knowledge out there than just the one book you've been given.

budaatum:
I shake my head at your limitations and pray you one day widen your horizon, for there's a lot of knowledge out there than just the one book you've been given.

Don't pray for me, I don't need your prayers. You should pray for yourself to be delivered from this dangerous and deceptive path that you have chosen.

Anything you reference about Christianity or Christ that has no foundation in the bible and can't be supported extensively by the bible is trash, deceptive and misleading.

It is a theory or assumption that can only be proven by the bible. Otherwise, it is just mere and nothing.

Merry100:
🤣🤣🤣So, the same God who clearly stated that He has given both male and female dominion over animals neglect to mention that man is the ruler over woman?

Set aside your assumptions and guesses, explain what God meant when He directly said to woman "He shall rule over thee." 🤣🤣🤣

What I have been sharing is just even a glimpse of my discoveries. I have made several findings that challenge the misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries and rule out those Bible verses indicating submission. 🤣🤣🤣

With reference to the letter in bold characters; tell us what you have learnt.

Wallade:
Don't pray for me, I don't need your prayers. You should pray for yourself to be delivered from this dangerous and deceptive path that you have chosen.

Anything you reference about Christianity or Christ that has no foundation in the bible and can't be supported extensively by the bible is trash, deceptive and misleading.

It is a theory or assumption that can only be proven by the bible. Otherwise, it is just mere and nothing.

I'm laughing at you too. Read more.

Merry100:
🤣🤣🤣So, the same God who clearly stated that He has given both male and female dominion over animals neglect to mention that man is the ruler over woman?

Set aside your assumptions and guesses, explain what God meant when He directly said to woman "He shall rule over thee." 🤣🤣🤣

What I have been sharing is just even a glimpse of my discoveries. I have made several findings that challenge the misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries and rule out those Bible verses indicating submission. 🤣🤣🤣

Madam, if you are married, you have an option not to submit to your husband. That is your wish and it is your marriage, the energy that you give is what you get.

If you are not married, don't submit to your fiance or man. He has the option to evaluate the future with you and decide whether to marry you or look elsewhere.

Your kind of feminism is ultimately your choice, I and many of us here don't have to live with your feminist ideology.

Merry100:
Taking the position of the head is merely a tradition and not the true Biblical standard. If you have read and understood the Bible, you would recognize this. I can only advise submission when the man is loving.

Thank you for not letting anyone deceive you with their own limited understanding.

Merry100:
🤣🤣🤣So, the same God who clearly stated that He has given both male and female dominion over animals neglect to mention that man is the ruler over woman?

Set aside your assumptions and guesses, explain what God meant when He directly said to woman "He shall rule over thee." 🤣🤣🤣

What I have been sharing is just even a glimpse of my discoveries. I have made several findings that challenge the misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries and rule out those Bible verses indicating submission. 🤣🤣🤣

The first man, Adam, was created before his wife, Eve. Adam was tasked with working and keeping the garden, while Eve was created as his helper (Genesis 2:15, 18). Humanity was named after Adam, not Eve (Genesis 5:1-2). Although Eve sinned first and gave Adam the fruit, God addressed Adam first, asking, “Where are you?” (The word “you” in Hebrew is singular) (Genesis 3:9). Adam had authority over his wife, and as such, God held him accountable for her sin. Moreover, Adam was held accountable for the sin of the entire human race.

The Hebrew word ezer does not mean “strength”; it means “helper.” To change its meaning to fit an ideology distorts the biblical text. A woman is not the strength of a man, though she is the crown of her husband (and I would say creation, more reason why she is vulnerable to being deceived, as most women already are under the guise of feminist philosophy and why it's a man's duty to protect and lead his wife). Women are undoubtedly special, but as helpers, their role is to support their husbands. Misrepresenting biblical teaching to fit a modern ideology demonstrates rebellion against God’s Word, aligning with feminist narratives. A Christian woman should stand alongside her husband as his helper, as ordained by Scripture.

Regarding culture, our current culture, including many churches, has been deeply feminized. Many churches now have ordained women pastors and women elders, delegating the masculine, authoritative task of preaching and teaching God’s Word to women. Consequently, men have become weak and passive, while women have become loud and contentious, rather than sweet, quiet, and gentle. Historically, biblical culture and even society up to like late 1800s or early 1900s was patriarchal. Men led in the home, church, and government. During that time, issues like divorce, crime, depression, and promiscuity were far less prevalent than they are today. The rise of these issues correlates with the erosion of traditional roles. There is no equality in roles and responsibilities between men and women; the relationship is hierarchical. Where equality in roles exists, it results in disorder, dysfunction, and ultimately destruction.

Now, let’s examine Genesis 3:16.

There are three interpretations of God’s pronouncement in Genesis 3:16:

1. Reaffirmation of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as reinforcing the marital hierarchy as a blessing. The wife’s desire for her husband is interpreted as devotion, and the husband’s rule over her is seen as positive leadership. This aligns with the preceding clause about childbirth (“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing”). Despite the pain, the woman remains devoted to her husband and has children with him. However, this interpretation struggles with the context of judgment in Genesis 3:16, as it’s unclear why the man’s rule is mentioned positively when the passage deals with judgment. One explanation is that the woman’s transgression (Genesis 3:1-6) led to a “redirection” of her role, calling her back to her creation-ordained subordination to man.


2. Perversion of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as describing the distortion of roles due to sin. There are two possibilities:

Both the wife’s desire to usurp her husband’s authority and the husband’s abusive rule are viewed negatively.

The wife’s devotion to her husband is positive, but the husband’s rule becomes abusive.


This interpretation is historically popular. John Calvin, for instance, described the wife’s subjection as previously liberal and gentle but now distorted into servitude. The ESV bible translation supports this view: “Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.” The NET Bible goes further: “You will want to control your husband, but he will dominate you.”


3. Wife’s Negative Actions, Husband’s Positive Rule:
This view interprets the wife’s desire as an attempt to usurp her husband’s authority, while the husband’s rule is a godly exercise of leadership to counteract this rebellion. This interpretation leans heavily on the parallel in Genesis 4:7 and is considered a more modern perspective and was the first interpretation I came accustomed to when I first learnt what Genesis 3:16 means.



Ultimately, the interpretation of Genesis 3:16 does not significantly alter the understanding of marital hierarchy and gender roles, as the creation account already establishes hierarchy before the fall. Regardless of the view adopted, it remains clear that God placed the husband in authority over his wife and that sin introduced corruption into this relationship.
However, egalitarians and feminists reject this creational hierarchy and attempt to root male headship solely in the fall. They often emphasize a version of View 2 that portrays the husband’s rule as introduced by God’s judgment on Eve. This perspective reflects a broader agenda to challenge traditional, biblically ordained gender roles and which ought not to be so.

(Inspired by Masculine Christianity).