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HappyPagan:
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Atheist! How far?

budaatum:
Atheist! How far?

Goood, good. You?

Life, man.

HappyPagan:
Goood, good. You?

Life, man.

Goot.

You find God yet?

budaatum:
Goot.

You find God yet?

Found something better.

Some call it spirituality. I call it nothing. Started seeing a therapist a few years back. Best decision I made... At peace with my past, present, and now.
Currently on a marijuana break, after over a decade of religiously smoking.

HappyPagan:
Found something better.

Some call it spirituality. I call it nothing. Started seeing a therapist a few years back. Best decision I made... At peace with my past, present, and now.
Currently on a marijuana break, after over a decade of religiously smoking.

Lolz, sorry muskee. So you left God for mariJ. Unfortunate. i keep saying it.

HappyPagan:
Found something better.

Some call it spirituality. I call it nothing. Started seeing a therapist a few years back. Best decision I made... At peace with my past, present, and now.
Currently on a marijuana break, after over a decade of religiously smoking.

You may call it nothing, but it must be something or you'd not call it a name. Besides, it doesn't seem only you found it since "some" call it.

So, what is it? Describe it to me please.

And why is your marijuana a break and not quit?

budaatum:
You may call it nothing, but it must be something or you'd not call it a name. Besides, it doesn't seem only you found it since "some" call it.

So, what is it? Describe it to me please.

And why is your marijuana a break and not quit?

Some "peace". I dont think words can describe it properly.. that's where i struggle. I've always been the cynical kind.. but something's flipped. Suicidal thoughts aren't as intense as they used to be.


I became too dependent on it to have a "nice" time. Also needed to prove to myself I could live without it. Been taking increasingly stronger and more expensive strains. Birthday was last month. Some cycles come to an end.
It's a break. For now...

Image123:
Lolz, sorry muskee. So you left God for mariJ. Unfortunate. i keep saying it.

Comments like 'I keep saying it' often come from a place of assuming the worst about people who abandon religion. But consider what he actually shared. He's working on his mental health and making positive changes in his life. That's courage and self awareness. Instead of assuming he left to sin,I think you should listen to his experience. He's now on a different path, seeking peace and responsibility. A little understanding goes a long way.

HappyPagan:
Some "peace". I dont think words can describe it properly.. that's where i struggle. I've always been the cynical kind.. but something's flipped. Suicidal thoughts aren't as intense as they used to be.


I became too dependent on it to have a "nice" time. Also needed to prove to myself I could live without it. Been taking increasingly stronger and more expensive strains. Birthday was last month. Some cycles come to an end.
It's a break. For now...

Hmmmm, I can relate. I decided to give up alcohol for health reasons. It's been just a week though so it still feels weird to think of myself as a teetotaler. LoLz.

LordReed:
Hmmmm, I can relate. I decided to give up alcohol for health reasons. It's been just a week though so it still feels weird to think of myself as a teetotaler. LoLz.

Ah, i hear alcohol is even tougher. Good luck my man.

triplechoice:
Comments like 'I keep saying it' often come from a place of assuming the worst about people who abandon religion. But consider what he actually shared. He's working on his mental health and making positive changes in his life. That's courage and self awareness. Instead of assuming he left to sin,I think you should listen to his experience. He's now on a different path, seeking peace and responsibility. A little understanding goes a long way.

Thank you sir/ma, i have known muskee for over a decade. i repeat again, i keep saying it. It's a place of experience and knowledge, not assumption.

Image123:
Thank you sir/ma, i have known muskee for over a decade. i repeat again, i keep saying it. It's a place of experience and knowledge, not assumption.

Ok. I see you've known him for a long time. But that doesn't change the fact about what he has written here about his current actions,which are, taking a break from marijuana and pursuing therapy to find peace. Those are commendable steps towards responsibility, not away from it .

If you've known him for over a decade and sincerely concerned for him, the loving and friendly thing to do would be to reach out to him privately to offer support,and not call him out publicly like an enemy,. Nairaland is where we discuss ideas,true friendship and pastoral care happen in private with compassion. The way you're engaging him here seems more about being right, ' I keep saying it ', than helping him like someone you have known for long.

triplechoice:
Ok. I see you've known him for a long time. But that doesn't change the fact about what he has written here about his current actions,which are, taking a break from marijuana and pursuing therapy to find peace. Those are commendable steps towards responsibility, not away from it .

If you've known him for over a decade and sincerely concerned for him, the loving and friendly thing to do would be to reach out to him privately to offer support,and not call him out publicly like an enemy,. Nairaland is where we discuss ideas,true friendship and pastoral care happen in private with compassion. The way you're engaging him here seems more about being right, ' I keep saying it ', than helping him like someone you have known for long.

i am not his pastor, he can go and find his pastor in his church. All the while he was not an atheist; he didn't need therapy. Few years out, he's battling mariJ, and the other one alcohol, and needing therapy and celebrating one week wins. i should actually be rolling on the floor laughing like them if no be say God dey exist. See, just be his pastor offering 'support' and leave me alone. If he cares for his mental health, let him disturb me. When these fellows mock us for believing God or serving God for years and pages, you didn't ask them to show compassion, people would have assumed that they were living in Aso Rock or White House because they stopped believing God, while those that believe are the dregs of the lowest earth.

Image123:
i am not his pastor, he can go and find his pastor in his church. All the while he was not an atheist; he didn't need therapy. Few years out, he's battling mariJ, and the other one alcohol, and needing therapy and celebrating one week wins. i should actually be rolling on the floor laughing like them if no be say God dey exist. See, just be his pastor offering 'support' and leave me alone. If he cares for his mental health, let him disturb me. When these fellows mock us for believing God or serving God for years and pages, you didn't ask them to show compassion, people would have assumed that they were living in Aso Rock or White House because they stopped believing God, while those that believe are the dregs of the lowest earth.

Hmmmm. Your reply confirms exactly what I was explaining.

You think you should be "rolling on the floor laughing" at his struggles. You also regard is bold decision to seek therapy and his celebration of "one week wins" as a joke, not as the difficult, praiseworthy effort of a friend trying to improve their mental health .

My friend , that's not concern, love or compassion. It's called, schadenfreude, deriving joy in another's pain and struggles.. Proverbs 17.5 warns heavily against this kind of behaviour you're displaying. You're using his struggles not as a reason to offer support, but a weapon to laugh at him and validate your beliefs .

Your claim he didn't require professional help when he was a Christian is an assumption or more correctly put, a lie. Many Christians struggle silently with issues they're afraid to face.. It takes huge courage to finally face them with or without religion . It's clear you're seeing correlation and assuming causation to fit your narrative.

Genuine faith isn't proven by mocking someone else's struggles and saying, 'I told you so ' . It's proven by demonstrating the grace,love and compassion you claim your religion provides. Unfortunately, you have chosen the former instead of the latter

I will discontinue the conversation at this point. I'll just leave this here for others following this thread to consider what true compassion really looks like.

Thank you

Image123:
i am not his pastor, he can go and find his pastor in his church. All the while he was not an atheist; he didn't need therapy. Few years out, he's battling mariJ, and the other one alcohol, and needing therapy and celebrating one week wins. i should actually be rolling on the floor laughing like them if no be say God dey exist. See, just be his pastor offering 'support' and leave me alone. If he cares for his mental health, let him disturb me. When these fellows mock us for believing God or serving God for years and pages, you didn't ask them to show compassion, people would have assumed that they were living in Aso Rock or White House because they stopped believing God, while those that believe are the dregs of the lowest earth.

LoLz. Where did I say I was battling alcohol?

Gain understanding:

I decided to give up salt for health reasons

I decided to give up sugar for health reasons

I decided to give up rice for health reasons

Which of the above statements indicate a struggle with the substances mentioned?

Stop jumping into fairytale conclusions in your head.

triplechoice:
Hmmmm. Your reply confirms exactly what I was explaining.

You think you should be "rolling on the floor laughing" at his struggles. You also regard is bold decision to seek therapy and his celebration of "one week wins" as a joke, not as the difficult, praiseworthy effort of a friend trying to improve their mental health .

My friend , that's not concern, love or compassion. It's called, schadenfreude, deriving joy in another's pain and struggles.. Proverbs 17.5 warns heavily against this kind of behaviour you're displaying. You're using his struggles not as a reason to offer support, but a weapon to laugh at him and validate your beliefs .

Your claim he didn't require professional help when he was a Christian is an assumption or more correctly put, a lie. Many Christians struggle silently with issues they're afraid to face.. It takes huge courage to finally face them with or without religion . It's clear you're seeing correlation and assuming causation to fit your narrative.

Genuine faith isn't proven by mocking someone else's struggles and saying, 'I told you so ' . It's proven by demonstrating the grace,love and compassion you claim your religion provides. Unfortunately, you have chosen the former instead of the latter

I will discontinue the conversation at this point. I'll just leave this here for others following this thread to consider what true compassion really looks like.

Thank you

I commend you for trying to reason with the unreasonable.

triplechoice:
Hmmmm. Your reply confirms exactly what I was explaining.

You think you should be "rolling on the floor laughing" at his struggles. You also regard is bold decision to seek therapy and his celebration of "one week wins" as a joke, not as the difficult, praiseworthy effort of a friend trying to improve their mental health .

My friend , that's not concern, love or compassion. It's called, schadenfreude, deriving joy in another's pain and struggles.. Proverbs 17.5 warns heavily against this kind of behaviour you're displaying. You're using his struggles not as a reason to offer support, but a weapon to laugh at him and validate your beliefs .

Your claim he didn't require professional help when he was a Christian is an assumption or more correctly put, a lie. Many Christians struggle silently with issues they're afraid to face.. It takes huge courage to finally face them with or without religion . It's clear you're seeing correlation and assuming causation to fit your narrative.

Genuine faith isn't proven by mocking someone else's struggles and saying, 'I told you so ' . It's proven by demonstrating the grace,love and compassion you claim your religion provides. Unfortunately, you have chosen the former instead of the latter

I will discontinue the conversation at this point. I'll just leave this here for others following this thread to consider what true compassion really looks like.

Thank you

My dear compassionate friend, leave the sermons for the obvious. We're not having a conversation here, take up pastoral care of these flock and show you really care. Where have you been all these while, are you not the one they've been praying for?

LordReed:
I commend you for trying to reason with the unreasonable.

It is unreasonable to think that there's no God. Much more to say it. You can imagine what ihave been going through with you for years, lol. Psalm 14v1. Selah

LordReed:
LoLz. Where did I say I was battling alcohol?

Gain understanding:

I decided to give up salt for health reasons

I decided to give up sugar for health reasons

I decided to give up rice for health reasons

Which of the above statements indicate a struggle with the substances mentioned?

Stop jumping into fairytale conclusions in your head.

Okay my dear, just that i didn't say these things. Talk about conclusions. i am not a priest, i have no need for these confessions.

Image123:
My dear compassionate friend, leave the sermons for the obvious. We're not having a conversation here, take up pastoral care of these flock and show you really care. Where have you been all these while, are you not the one they've been praying for?

It's obvious you have no desire to engage in a reasonable discussion. You have resorted to sarcasm and personal attacks instead of directly addressing the point that celebrating someone's struggles is not a loving way to behave.. Your Bible has even made it clear that such behaviour will never go unpunished..

Well, my "sermon" ,as you call it, was just about basic human decency,and that shouldn't be a controversial idea

I've said all I need to say on the matter .I won't be responding again. FYI, I'm not a pastor and nobody is praying for me. That comment of yours is very vague. Unlike your friends, there's nothing you know about me outside this forum.

Thank you

triplechoice:
It's obvious you have no desire to engage in a reasonable discussion. You have resorted to sarcasm and personal attacks instead of directly addressing the point that celebrating someone's struggles is not a loving way to behave.. Your Bible has even made it clear that such behaviour will never go unpunished..

Well, my "sermon" ,as you call it, was just about basic human decency,and that shouldn't be a controversial idea

I've said all I need to say on the matter .I won't be responding again. FYI, I'm not a pastor and nobody is praying for me. That comment of yours is very vague. Unlike your friends, there's nothing you know about me outside this forum.

Thank you

You said it earlier, kindly discontinue what you consider conversation. i have no desire to engage in meaningless discussions based on assumptions. You'll be of more profit demonstrating your great advice to the grieving parties. You are on a very long thing my compassionate friend.

LordReed:
I commend you for trying to reason with the unreasonable.

Thanks . Sometimes you have to make some effort even when you know it's probably a waste of time.

Image123:
You said it earlier, kindly discontinue what you consider conversation. i have no desire to engage in meaningless discussions based on assumptions. You'll be of more profit demonstrating your great advice to the grieving parties. You are on a very long thing my compassionate friend.

The only "grieving parties" I see here is you. You're entangled in bitterness and hate, two things that negatively impacts on one's mental health.

triplechoice:
The only "grieving parties" I see here is you. You're embroiled in bitterness and hate, two things that negatively impacts on one's mental health.

You didn't discontinue?
Therapist customers await you, my compassionate friend. Go for the jugular. Stop these cheap talk. Ask around, engage the right set of people, they've been praying for you.

Reed, are you the one trying to post some hypocrisy above? We don't do that hear. Please, listen to your compassionate pastor.

Image123:
Okay my dear, just that i didn't say these things. Talk about conclusions. i am not a priest, i have no need for these confessions.

LoLz. It is like since yesterday understanding English has been hard for you. Who was confessing to you?

I gave you examples so that understanding can sink past those skull plates but I guess it was a waste of time. Bwahahahahahaha!

Image123:
Reed, are you the one trying to post some hypocrisy above? We don't do that hear. Please, listen to your compassionate pastor.

LoLz. Your name is not on the list of people qualified to rail against hypocrisy.

Image123:
You didn't discontinue?
Therapist customers await you, my compassionate friend. Go for the jugular. Stop these cheap talk. Ask around, engage the right set of people, they've been praying for you.

It's because you don't understand what's written in simple English language .

I was specific about what I said. I said I was ending the "conversation" that has do with me appealing to your humanity and conscience. I didn't not say I won't respond to your personal attack.

So, at the moment,I'm responding to the nonsense you have been saying outside that conversation. You didn't engage directly with the " conversation", so no need wasting my time .

Hope it's clear now ?

And praying for others to change them is witchcraft: the attempt to impose your personal will on others to change them.