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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by Michael547(m): 7:27pm On Feb 14, 2024
MaobiCarl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-T5ix4smik?si=qIQeaoqFi3Nib844

So after many decades of demonising, ostracising and sometimes disfellowshiping male members who opt to wear or keep their God given natural beards. The leaders of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect has approved responsible male brothers to wear and keep beards if they choose in a recent update aired on jw broadcast dated December 15,2023.

On this update nos 8 they've agreed that is non scriptural to instruct Christians on how to look outwardly uniformly. They now accept that spirituality is the basis of Christianity not outward appearances or trying to appear or sound different from other competing religious organisations .

There's high and mixed emotions amongst the members now. Many are disappointed while few who has been scorned by elders and congregation leaders for trying to leave there beards to grow may be the only ones excited.

But personally they( Governing Body) needs to apologise to there members for trying to make them look like a cult. Cus is only a cult that that enforce a dress pattern or grooming for members from varying cultures and backgrounds all around the world

Source :https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-Governing-Body-Update-8/
Now that you've identified Jws to be a sect. Can you point out a religious group that is actually the true one?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:19pm On Apr 20
Michael547:
Now that you've identified Jws to be a sect. Can you point out a religious group that is actually the true one?
A billion dollar question!😂
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 8:32am On Apr 21
Q
MaxInDHouse:
A billion dollar question!😂
My group.
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 8:32am On Apr 21
Michael547:
Now that you've identified Jws to be a sect. Can you point out a religious group that is actually the true one?
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
You can see Pentecostals worship God in spirit, and rejoice with high praise,and do not boast of our deeds but humble ourselves before God and men.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:23am On Apr 21
Which church exactly because it's clear that there are thousands of different religions claiming Pentecostals today as they are contradicting themselves!🙂
MightySparrow:
Q
My group.
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
MightySparrow:
Phil.3.3 - For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
You can see Pentecostals worship God in spirit, and rejoice with high praise,and do not boast of our deeds but humble ourselves before God and men.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 12:19pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Which church exactly because it's clear that there are thousands of different religions claiming Pentecostals today as they are contradicting themselves!🙂
O have already told you I am a Pentecostal, I worship at any Pentecostal I see around depending on my location. So far they are pentecostal churches that believe in what I believe. I don't see any contradictions in pentecostal churches. That is why we have a body PFN in Nigeria and a global body.
If you see any contradictions, it is because you are just a watcher from outside.

1 Corinthians 12:27
Now ye (I am) are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Emphasis mine
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:37pm On Apr 21
Between Adeboye and Abel Damina who is not a Pentecostal because we all know that this two are not in agreement as one said he drank tea with his God and the other said that is a lie.
One said failure to pay tithe will debar worshipers from going to heaven while the other said it's a lie!🤔

MightySparrow:
O have already told you I am a Pentecostal, I worship at any Pentecostal I see around depending on my location. So far they are pentecostal churches that believe in what I believe. I don't see any contradictions in pentecostal churches. That is why we have a body PFN in Nigeria and a global body.
If you see any contradictions, it is because you are just a watcher from outside.
1 Corinthians 12:27
Now ye (I am) are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

Emphasis mine
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 1:20pm On Apr 21
MaxInDHouse:
Between Adeboye and Abel Damina who is not a Pentecostal because we all know that this two are not in agreement as one said he drank tea with his God and the other said that is a lie.
One said failure to pay tithe will debar worshipers from going to heaven while the other said it's a lie!🤔
You should know that pentecostals differ in minor issues like tithing, and other monetaries issues. Damina is an emergent critic like Tunde Bakare. Such is expected. In your organization such are labelled dissidents. In PFN they are there to give varieties in the body.
They are welcome.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Apr 21
I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. John 17:22
Is there any difference between the opinion of Jesus and his father?🤔

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthans 1:10
Should there be such confusion among true Christians?

MightySparrow:
You should know that pentecostals differ in minor issues like tithing, and other monetaries issues. Damina is an emergent critic like Tunde Bakare. Such is expected. In your organization such are labelled dissidents. In PFN they are there to give varieties in the body.
They are welcome.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 2:03pm On Apr 22
I'm
MaxInDHouse:
Between Adeboye and Abel Damina who is not a Pentecostal because we all know that this two are not in agreement as one said he drank tea with his God and the other said that is a lie.
One said failure to pay tithe will debar worshipers from going to heaven while the other said it's a lie!🤔
That is okay. One believes in supernatural, the other does not believe. Exod.24.11 - And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.


Rom.14.5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom.14.6 - He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

The key issues in our beliefs are not personal experiences but: God, Devil, sin, salvation in Christ, baptism, holiness, second coming of Christ, coming judgement, new heaven and new earth, and others.

If anyone still believes in all these, no problem.

You can see that in the early church about days of worship.
Those are not weighty. I am convinced that payment of tithe is part of Christianity. I know a Pentecostal church where offerings are not collected. That is their own understanding besides the core doctrines.

What about PIMO in your organization? Those have different beliefs.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m):
This is what i expected you to address:
MaxInDHouse:
I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. John 17:22
Is there any difference between the opinion of Jesus and his father?🤔

Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought. 1Corinthans 1:10
Should there be such confusion among true Christians?
As for those claiming PIMO they can't organize themselves to worship elsewhere which means they are deceiving themselves unlike your own so called Pentecostals who pitches tents against yourselves.

Let those claiming PIMO form a group and worship separately then their case will be worth considering but until then they don't have anything tangible to say as long as they are hiding their faces!🙂
MightySparrow:
I'm


That is okay. One believes in supernatural, the other does not believe. Exod.24.11 - And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.


Rom.14.5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom.14.6 - He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

The key issues in our beliefs are not personal experiences but: God, Devil, sin, salvation in Christ, baptism, holiness, second coming of Christ, coming judgement, new heaven and new earth, and others.

If anyone still believes in all these, no problem.

You can see that in the early church about days of worship.
Those are not weighty. I am convinced that payment of tithe is part of Christianity. I know a Pentecostal church where offerings are not collected. That is their own understanding besides the core doctrines.

What about PIMO in your organization? Those have different beliefs.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 11:52pm On Apr 22
MaxInDHouse:
This is what i expected you to address:

As for those claiming PIMO they can't organize themselves to worship elsewhere which means they are deceiving themselves unlike your own so called Pentecostals who pitches tents against yourselves.

Let those claiming PIMO form a group and worship separately then their case will be worth considering but until then they don't have anything tangible to say as long as they are hiding their faces!🙂
The same way Anglican is not the same with Catholic and the rest. Jehovah witnesses are not the same with others and vice versa. Pentecostal is a group not under a single leadership. You know now, we are different from others like JWs, and many others with many other identities worldwide. The unifying factor is the key beliefs. Apart from Christ, salvation, hope of resurrection, what other beliefs should bring Christians together?
Every other thing is man made and human style.


1Cor.3.5 - Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:26am On Apr 23
MightySparrow:
The same way Anglican is not the same with Catholic and the rest. Jehovah witnesses are not the same with others and vice versa.
You still don't understand!

Are you worshiping the same God with Anglican, Catholics, Deeperlife, MFM, Apostolic and the others claiming Christians?

Of course you are because your leaders do pray together when they meet as CAN so you who are following them also pray together at different occasions.

But are JWs worshiping the same God with anyone who is not submissive to those taking the lead in our organization?
The answer is NO!

WHY?

Because we believe Jesus has anointed brothers that we need to recognize {Matthew 25:40} to them we should be obedient {Hebrews 13:7} and also assist in the work he assigned to them {Matthew 25:35-39} they are his first sheep while we are his other sheep {John 10:16} together we must be One under his direction {John 17:22} that's why there shouldn't be anything like division among us {1Corinthans 1:10} this is why we can't perform any act of sacred service with you people not even a prayer!😟

So JWs aren't like you people different religions contradicting yourselves still claiming worshipers of the same Jesus! 😟

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 10:36am On Apr 23
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MaxInDHouse:
You still don't understand!

Are you worshiping the same God with Anglican, Catholics, Deeperlife, MFM, Apostolic and the others claiming Christians?

Of course you are because your leaders do pray together when they meet as CAN so you who are following them also pray together at different occasions.

But are JWs worshiping the same God with anyone who is not submissive to those taking the lead in our organization?
The answer is NO!

WHY?

Because we believe Jesus has anointed brothers that we need to recognize {Matthew 25:40} to them we should be obedient {Hebrews 13:7} and also assist in the work he assigned to them {Matthew 25:35-39} they are his first sheep while we are his other sheep {John 10:16} together we must be One under his direction {John 17:22} that's why there shouldn't be anything like division among us {1Corinthans 1:10} this is why we can't perform any act of sacred service with you people not even a prayer!😟

So JWs aren't like you people different religions contradicting yourselves still claiming worshipers of the same Jesus! 😟
1 Corinthians 1:2
[2]Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

We don't have division among us. We have family disagreement, a call to caution, not fight. JWs are worshipping other god other than ours. We have our identity in Christ.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:38pm On Apr 23
MightySparrow:
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JWs are worshipping other god other than ours.
This you got perfectly and i must commend you for it.
So our God totally differs from yours He commanded us to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and there must not be any division among us! 1Corinthans 1:10
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 5:15pm On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:
This you got perfectly and i must commend you for it.
So our God totally differs from yours He commanded us to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and there must not be any division among us! 1Corinthans 1:10
Yes. I have been telling you about your community truth . If your God is not known by the Commonwealth of Israel, the Israel of God. You are right 👍.

That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph.2.12
Our own stance is described in this scripture.

I encourage you to join us.gringrin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:55pm On Apr 23
Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers. Psalms 1:1

Thanks i'm happy among worshipers who aren't ridiculing or scoffing among themselves they are united in faith under one umbrella! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10🙂
MightySparrow:
I encourage you to join us.gringrin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 7:12pm On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:
Happy is the man who does not walk according to the advice of the wicked And does not stand on the path of sinners And does not sit in the seat of scoffers. Psalms 1:1

Thanks i'm happy among worshipers who aren't ridiculing or scoffing among themselves they are united in faith under one umbrella! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10🙂
There is nothing, ' among themselves
' in JWs. It is all a delusional organization.gringrin. It carries only the umbrella of PDP.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:18pm On Apr 23
No wahala i like am like that!🙂
MightySparrow:
There is nothing, ' among themselves
' in JWs. It is all a delusional organization.gringrin. It carries only the umbrella of PDP.

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey: 8:10pm On Apr 23
MightySparrow:
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1 Corinthians 1:2
[2]Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

We don't have division among us. We have family disagreement, a call to caution, not fight. JWs are worshipping other god other than ours. We have our identity in Christ.
Sometimes I wonder the delusion behind that his love to peddle we don't worship same God grin cheesy cheesy

Romans 3:29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too.

When he comes with those deluded thinking, I laugh since JEHOVAH is their God, is that Jehovah God over us that don't worship Jehovah?

When we reverse the whole scenario he cannot deny that if we are not worshipping same God, then it means our God is God over him and the God of his religious organisation grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by achorladey: 8:15pm On Apr 23
MightySparrow:
I'm


That is okay. One believes in supernatural, the other does not believe. Exod.24.11 - And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.


Rom.14.5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom.14.6 - He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

The key issues in our beliefs are not personal experiences but: God, Devil, sin, salvation in Christ, baptism, holiness, second coming of Christ, coming judgement, new heaven and new earth, and others.

If anyone still believes in all these, no problem.

You can see that in the early church about days of worship.
Those are not weighty. I am convinced that payment of tithe is part of Christianity. I know a Pentecostal church where offerings are not collected. That is their own understanding besides the core doctrines.

What about PIMO in your organization? Those have different beliefs.
That PIMO na serious hole in their delusion of one line of thought. It is their biggest pointer that their so called unity and love na foundation built on lies 😂😂😂😂
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 11:02pm On Apr 23
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala i like am like that!🙂
No one adds sugar to honey to make it sweeter. If you are the best, you don't struggle for recognition. Look up in the sky tomorrow, The Sun does not need introduction. It simply stands out.
To prove that you are the best is a useless effort. If you are part of us, we simply shine together; but you are not.

For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
2Cor.10.12


We are simply in the number not breaking ranks

They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks:
Joel.2.7


gringringrin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:51am On Apr 24
MightySparrow:
The Sun does not need introduction. It simply stands out.
freethinker01:
Tho I don't like their disturbance, I'd have to say they're far better than all their Christian tithe whoring counterparts.
BafanaBafana:
Quite true. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are actually one of the few denominations who are still following Christ. Most churches now are headed by motivational speakers who only use the name of Jesus to preach other things. The goal is to attract members to their church and the members will bring the money.
Shikena!
APOPTOSIS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
Oye0404:
well said, once had a witness DAT comes around for years, truth is,dis guys are so caring and accommodating. lots if misconceptions about dem..
XXLDICK:
They remain the most peaceful Christian denomination.
They do not pay tithes. They are the only Christian denomination yet to be commercialized. They are my favourite.
Cons:
They do not recite the national anthem.
They do not participate in elections.
They do not accept blood transfusion.
boss1310:
The way they are hated makes me to think sometimes they might be the true Christians but I might be wrong.
Love800:
I would love to be a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, because of their gentle life. Relaxed service and programs(not those stressful and loud types), and serenity of their church yard. Infact, its this serenity of their abode that blows my mind!

But the thing that worries me, is their misled teachings. How can you say that we are not going to die, but remain on earth and unite with our love ones and live happily together forever!
Deway52:
I am convinced that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are the real religion, they do everything in line with the bible.
Na small time remain for me now, I don enter. If everybody in the world is a jw the world would be a better place.
DeepSight:
I am not sure the respect JWs have is on account of what you say. It is more on account of their general simplicity, general adherence to bible truth, and the fact that no one can accuse them of being commercialised or money or power focused like most other denominations are. Alot of people see a purity in them which is lacking in many other places. I should know, for as I told you, in my youth, I used to be one.
HardMirror:
unfortunately, JW are the best Christians if we will be honest.


“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 4:41pm On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:




Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee ( claimed) be not darkness.
Luke 11:35




















“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 4:42pm On Apr 24
MaxInDHouse:
























“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain.  People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16
Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee (claimed) be not darkness.
Luke 11:35
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:03pm On Apr 24
MightySparrow:
Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee (claimed) be not darkness. Luke 11:35
Light that worshipers are contradicting themselves!😂
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 9:05am On Apr 25
MaxInDHouse:
Light that worshipers are contradicting themselves!😂
You are the confused person here. We are just having family challenges. We are intact together. JWs are alone and aloof. The one outside the commonwealth of Israel. A commonwealth has constituent parts. You are not in the number.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m):
MightySparrow:
We are just having family challenges.
Families taking members to court!🙂


If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? ‭1 Corinthians 6:1 NIV

Does any one of you who has a dispute with another dare to go to court before unrighteous men, and not before the holy ones. NWT

Bí ẹnikẹ́ni nínú yín bá ni èdè-àìyedè sí ẹnikejì rẹ̀, ó ha gbọdọ̀ lọ pè é lẹ́jọ́ níwájú àwọn aláìsòótọ́ bí, bí kò se níwájú àwọn ènìyàn mímọ́? KỌRINTI KINNI 6:1
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 1:38pm On Apr 25
MaxInDHouse:
Families taking members to court!🙂


If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? ‭1 Corinthians 6:1 NIV

Does any one of you who has a dispute with another dare to go to court before unrighteous men, and not before the holy ones. NWT

Bí ẹnikẹ́ni nínú yín bá ni èdè-àìyedè sí ẹnikejì rẹ̀, ó ha gbọdọ̀ lọ pè é lẹ́jọ́ níwájú àwọn aláìsòótọ́ bí, bí kò se níwájú àwọn ènìyàn mímọ́? KỌRINTI KINNI 6:1
Show an evidence where Deeper Life took RCCG or lFC to court or any other.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:19pm On Apr 25
MightySparrow:
Show an evidence where Deeper Life took RCCG or lFC to court or any other.
Ọmọ unah dey carry unah members go court wella wella no be even for criminal case sef but person wey won start hin own church!

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:23pm On Apr 25

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses Can Now Wear Beard by MightySparrow: 4:07pm On Apr 26
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ unah dey carry unah members go court wella wella no be even for criminal case sef but person wey won start hin own church!
Scoundrels hunt for scandal; their words are a destructive blaze.
Prov.16.27 NLT


gringringrin
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