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shdemidemi: Ok, but at this other point that he had become born again, what happened

Galatians 2:11-18
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
Paul Shows That Peter Was Wrong

11 When Peter came to Antioch, he did something that was not right. I stood against him, because he was wrong. 12 This is what happened: When Peter first came to Antioch, he ate and associated with the non-Jewish people. But when some Jewish men came from James, Peter separated himself from the non-Jews. He stopped eating with them, because he was afraid of the Jews who believe that all non-Jewish people must be circumcised. 13 So Peter was a hypocrite. The other Jewish believers joined with him, so they were hypocrites too. Even Barnabas was influenced by what these Jewish believers did. 14 They were not following the truth of the Good News. When I saw this, I spoke to Peter in front of everyone. I said, “Peter, you are a Jew, but you don’t live like one. You live like someone who is not a Jew. So why are you trying to force those who are not Jewish to live like Jews?”

Did you see the born again Peter acting wrongly in this chapter.

Bidam: Yeah the truth always hurt..Some of the rankest errors taught by many present-day professing believers, have their sole source and support in these Epistles of Paul. So powerfully, in fact, do the four Gospels and the book of Acts contradict certain diabolical interpretations of the letters of Paul, that a number of these schools of Paulinism have relegated all books of the Bible, except these epistles, to the (for them) unacceptable realms of the Jew.

Now consider this: what foundation would the following apostate teachings have, if the epistles of Paul were removed from our Bibles? "The postponement theory"; "The new gospel of Grace"; the idea of "once saved always saved"; "Baptism for the dead"; Disrespect for the ten Commandments; the so-called "Free Love" movement; Hatred for the Law and the Customs of God; etc.

christemmbassey: was Peter's behaviour a 'sin', my brother these were jews still graping with their ethnocentric background, they were still learning to walk with the spirit. We are better placed because we have the new testament scriptures to help us but they did not.

christemmbassey: Proper and clear undastanding of Grace makes the christians more responsible and responsive to the leadings of the spirit. The bible says "let this mind be in you, that was also in Christ Jesus....."phil 2:5, this means 'you are responsible', we often say, to whom much is given, much is expected. Brothers and sisters, if you can just try to undastand what we've been given in Jesus(GRACE) you will also realise the enormous responsibities on us. The responsibility of grace, knowing that i paid nothing humbles me and makes me more careful, attentive, dependent, trusting, respectful of the free gift and very RESPONSIBLE. a man who paid can say, afterall its my sweats.. But me that paid nothing, will say pls i no joke o, because if u add my life time salaries it cant pay for even a tyre , so i will guard it with all deligence, so the knowledge of grace is actually an antidote for a life of sin. Peace.

shdemidemi: You just said it bro, MIND.the only way you can have that mind is -

Romans 12:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

The only way this renewal of mind can come is

2 Timothy 2:15
King James Version (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Studying the word of God transforms your mind into that of Christ and hearing does your faith a whole lot of good too because

Romans 10:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

christemmbassey: attending church+ALMIGHTY TITHE+offerings= just 1point? Ola is this a typo or what? Bidam, Joe and Image123 must comment on this o, mehn! This is one of the best i've ever read from bro Ola. God bless you plenty.

"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you pay tithes of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought you to have done, and not to leave the other undone"

Goshen360: @ bro. Ola,

That was so powerful! It's gonna be part of my concluding post. I love that. God bless you.

OLAADEGBU: It doesn't detract from church attendance and giving your tithes and offerings, it's just that they are not as weighty as judgment, mercy and faith as our Lord Jesus Christ says:

(Matt 23:23).

shdemidemi: What is it with you, you are just shouting yashua yashua. Is Yashua the only one in the trinity? Was Yashua in human form in Genesis, can you see yashua in flesh right now?
It's like having water in ice,liquid and gas. In whichever form it is still water.
Your myopic argument is like saying Its only the real water I want to talk about.
Apply whatever you think with jo.
If you don't believe ask yourself if you really want to believe?

OLAADEGBU: It doesn't detract from church attendance and giving your tithes and offerings, it's just that they are not as weighty as judgment, mercy and faith as our Lord Jesus Christ says:

(Matt 23:23).

shdemidemi: Going to church, I agree with cos the bible says

23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

But the tithes ...it is in direct opposite to the gospel of Christ (Christians) to compel people to give so as to get back, I believe that makes God a vending machine.
Tithing has no place in the gospel cos as Christians, problems,persecution are part of our walk with Christ cos the Bible says -

7 And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.

2 Corinthians 1:7
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
7 Our hope for you is strong. We know that you share in our sufferings. So we know that you also share in our comfort.



Offerings-

16 1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. 3 And when I come, whomever you approve by your letters I will send to bear your gift to Jerusalem.

The apostles collected gifts for the Jewish people who had accepted Christ in Jerusalem because of the famine in that land.

Although it is good to care for our pastors -

1 Thessalonians 5:12
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
Final Instructions and Greetings

12 Now brothers and sisters, we ask you to recognize the value of those who work hard among you—those who, as followers of the Lord, care for you and tell you how to live.[b][/b]

And Paul's needs was cared for atimes too, though He did not impose this-

9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied.


Sorry for derailing, I just can't stand the tithing and conditional offering gospel.

Miss Ope: Just Yesterday , One of my big friends was preaching to me and said '' HEAVEN is an Holy place and no sin can never enter there, she said if I have one single stain or spot dat I can't go there when I die.... She went as far as asking me to cut my relaxed hair, stop wearing earrings, stop wearing trousers and even gave me tapes of those who died went to heaven and came back, @ dat point I was scared, up till now I don't know what to believe, Becos one thing I know is this , It's not almost possible to live a life completely void of sin, because if u claim not to fornicate, u may jest , backbite, or even lie....
Who shall deliver me from this wrath to come?? I don't wanna spend my eternity in the lake of fire oooo....
Somebody helpppppppppp.

MostHigh: I can Infer from your tone that you are offended by the name of the son of GOD yashua Ibn Joseph, please dont be.

paul was sent to the unbelivers and you have shown yourself as such a one.

But Know this the spirirt of antichrist in you will soon meet its end.

1. All things with me and Yashua, and I love shouting the name of the master preadventure his spirit will manifest more contantly,

2. No he is not, but as the son he is the express image of all that was and is to be.

3. Of course he was you lawless coward, as it is written: In the begining was the word (the same word you hate)and the word was with GOD and the word was GOD THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING.

4. I see yashua in flesh in those that reflect the christlike spirit but unfortunately not in you my reprobate lawless fellow.

5. from you analogy above yashua would be the water and yashua would be the ice, paul can only testify about the water and ice if he is filled with the water or ice.

lawless antichrist that you are.

christemmbassey: bro Ola just threw ur tithe(oil well) into garbage dump of irrelevance and gave the Grace of our lord Jesus his rightful pre-eminence, if u must go to war, me think it rhould be with Ola and not me. God bless .

christemmbassey: according to Old, church attendance+ ITHE+offerings=1point and GRACE alone=100points. I will go for Grace any day and any time, whnther Ola pays tithe or not. I love Acts13:39 "And by him all that believe are JUSTIFIED from ALL THINGS, from which ye could not be justified by the LAW OF MOSES".

shdemidemi: Going to church, I agree with cos the bible says

23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful. 24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.

But the tithes ...it is in direct opposite to the gospel of Christ (Christians) to compel people to give so as to get back, I believe that makes God a vending machine.
Tithing has no place in the gospel cos as Christians, problems,persecution are part of our walk with Christ cos the Bible says -

7 And our hope for you is steadfast, because we know that as you are partakers of the sufferings, so also you will partake of the consolation.

2 Corinthians 1:7
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
7 Our hope for you is strong. We know that you share in our sufferings. So we know that you also share in our comfort.



Offerings-

16 1 Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given orders to the churches of Galatia, so you must do also: 2 On the first day of the week let each one of you lay something aside, storing up as he may prosper, that there be no collections when I come. 3 And when I come, whomever you approve by your letters I will send to bear your gift to Jerusalem.

The apostles collected gifts for the Jewish people who had accepted Christ in Jerusalem because of the famine in that land.

Although it is good to care for our pastors -

1 Thessalonians 5:12
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
Final Instructions and Greetings

12 Now brothers and sisters, we ask you to recognize the value of those who work hard among you—those who, as followers of the Lord, care for you and tell you how to live.[b][/b]

And Paul's needs was cared for atimes too, though He did not impose this-

9 And when I was present with you, and in need, I was a burden to no one, for what I lacked the brethren who came from Macedonia supplied.


Sorry for derailing, I just can't stand the tithing and conditional offering gospel.

shdemidemi: I say it once I say it again..
God has 3 forms- father son and spirit
They have always been together from the beginning..they are equal
God never changes but he operates in dispensation.
Unfolding Gods programme according to dispensation is an important part of mind renewal.
In the beginning God communed with man as the father. 1st dispensation
He later related with us through the saviour. Christ
Now He relates to us through His (spirit) word which He used Apostle Paul to deliver it to us

So holding on to God's word in the past or Jesus' is right but He has since moved the programme, He has put everything to the Spirit now, so you need to update. Some Jews still think God is partial with them now but God has moved. At this time the church is the apple of God's eyes although His promise to the Jews will still be fulfilled after the church.

I did not write this for you but for anyone who cares to know cos for people like you, the Bible says-
Matthew 13:13
Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
13 This is why I use these stories to teach the people: They see, but they don’t really see. They hear, but they don’t really hear or understand.

OLAADEGBU: Our good works cannot save us it should be a product of the grace of God in our lives.

MostHigh: 1. the church is spiritual

2. Isreal is physical and upon her rest all the promises from genesis, she is still his special creation and will always be the apple of his eye.

3. If apostle paul deliverd the word to you then why only practice part of it.

Lawlessness Antichrist

shdemidemi: Childish attention seeker...ask questions like a cultured person if you want response.
Were you bullied or molested in your earlier years, you sound troubled.

OLAADEGBU: No one is saying that giving tithes and offerings can save you. We are only saved by the grace of God but what does grace do? Let's listen to Paul once again:

"For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ" (Titus 2:11-12).

So you can see that as we are saved by the grace of God which can only come through the channel of faith we remain saved by the same grace as He enables us to obey the word of God as we continue to believe and obey Him.

MostHigh: shdemidemi:

I believe a Christian can commit adultery and even more.

Yes a Christian can continue in it and yet He is still safe

That is the height of grace

shdemidemi you are clearly a Demon filled God Hater, Lawless reprobate

Son of the anitchrist

shdemidemi: Childish attention seeker...ask questions like a cultured person if you want response.
Were you bullied or molested in your earlier years, you sound troubled.

christemmbassey: you are becoming my bros small small. God bless.

OLAADEGBU: Have you received His grace to go and sin no more?

christemmbassey: i am the the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. Christ dashed me righteousness, iam holy and i never sined . Peace.

christemmbassey: i am the the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. Christ dashed me righteousness, iam holy and i never sined. Peace.

Goshen360: We all sin everyday not necessarily like adultery, lying, fornication, murdering etc. Doubt is also a sin. Let's not stretch these sin issue too much. Even in our conversation on this forum, many of us sin in words. So, what are we saying?