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Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 6:05am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Zikkyy:Atleast you are coming around to my point concerning those who are free to express themselves to tithe without antitithers breathing down their necks as if it is their money. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by MarkMiwerds(m): 6:11am On Oct 25, 2014 |
gebest:Malachi 3:10 does exist. But it's tithe nowhere resembles the tithe you and defend. 1 Like |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 6:34am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Mr vooks. Atleast you did not address me with those foul languages in your post here. But atleast an apology would have been in order, don't you think?[quote author=vooks post=27419229][/quote] |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 6:43am On Oct 25, 2014 |
christemmbassey:Haba Pastor! Where did you read in that verse that tithe was annulled? To get a proper context go back to chapter 7 and tell me your findings. Just like vooks you are also reading carnally into the scriptures. Because there was a change of the covenant doesnt mean the new covenant doesn't have its own laws which is spiritual, eternal and internal. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 6:47am On Oct 25, 2014 |
MarkMiwerds:If it doesn't exist, its in the figment of your imagination. You can say it doesn't apply to you since you are fond of cherry picking what best suits your fancy in the bible. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 7:10am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam, am very sorry for any offence I have caused by my responses. It was uncalled for and I apologize Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 7:12am On Oct 25, 2014 |
And where did you read that ritual cleansing was anulled? I asked you to explain to me why Mosaic Freewill Offerings were anulled. These had nothing to do with sin so explain to me why you don't slaughter bulls to God without any compulsion Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by trustman: 7:29am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam:Because you are so quick at countering others position without first carefully going through their post your reply here has again shown you for who you are - a ....(fill in the blanks). He never said the Malachi passage does not exist. What we are saying is this: To the extent that tithing IS NOT PRESCRIBED ANYWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT EPISTLES we can safely say that it is no longer compulsory for the Christian today. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:08am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:Apology accepted. I will respond to the post you posted previously. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:13am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:Sorry What kind of ritualistic bath do you do as a christian? I asked you to explain to me why Mosaic Freewill Offerings were anulled. These had nothing to do with sin so explain to me why you don't slaughter bulls to God without any compulsiononce again the analogy doesn't quite follow just like the old worn out argument of circumcision..All these flies in the face of logic. Is tithes a ritual law? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 8:16am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Who draws the line between CEREMONIAL Laws and non-CEREMONIAL? Your head? How convenient And EXACTLY what are CEREMONIAL Laws? Bidam: 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:20am On Oct 25, 2014 |
trustman:You are also quick to respond without understanding. The word sarcasm doesn't exist in your dico abi? What we are saying is this:Is it compulsory for christians to give? Tithing is NOWHERE ANNULLED IN THE NT. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 8:24am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Again so are freewill offerings. DO you offer freewill offerings? The NOT-ANNULLED argument is the most senseless and inconsistent because you run into hundreds of other things that you have no record of being annulled yet you don't practice them Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:24am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:edit..always give room for time before response pls..This is no competition. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:27am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Did you see any word called ceremonial in my post vooks: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 8:28am On Oct 25, 2014 |
trustman: Zikkyy: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 8:28am On Oct 25, 2014 |
What is a ritual Law? Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:33am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:Do you give to the poor, Do you do other charitable deeds aside givings in your local assembly? What is your definition of free will? The NOT-ANNULLED argument is the most senseless and inconsistent because you run into hundreds of other things that you have no record of being annulled yet you don't practice themSo is your position senseless and inconsistent. If you insist Christianity doesn't spring from judaism i might concede. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 8:36am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Just going through some old posts Zikkyy: 1 Like |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:38am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:You said ritual cleansing wasn't annulled. So the onus is on you to tell us what ritual law you are talking about. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 8:41am On Oct 25, 2014 |
gebest:the christians have nothing to do with the book of Malachi, ok, let me explain, When God asked Israell to give tithes to levites in their cities, the levites were inturn required to take 10% called 'tithe of tithes' to d temple. NB God has NEVER ASK ISRAEL TO TAKE TITHES TO THE TEMPLE, so when d levites were collecting tithes but refused to remit tithe of tithes God then sent Prophet Malachi warn them, so it was not even written to d whole of Israel talkless of d gentile christians. Again, even in d old testament, PRIESTS DO NOT PAY TITHES, WHY SHOULD PRIESTS IN D NEW TESTAMENT DO? Pls next time u read Malachi start from Cap1, stay blessed 1 Like |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 8:49am On Oct 25, 2014 |
I gave you a Law I don't recall being annulled on menstruation and you went about ritual laws. Call it whatever you want but is this Law applicable to you today? Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 8:54am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam: am not coming around to anything. It's because you don't take time to read my posts. If you go back and read my posts on tithing you will see that i don't have issues with people spending their money anyhow they want. After all it's their cash. Below is a post i made way back in 2009... Zikkyy: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by chysam: 8:54am On Oct 25, 2014 |
gebest:Yes it longer exist for Christians and people who have "GENUININGLY" received christ as their personal Lord and Saviour.The bible confirms this with action. Furthermore,the jews today no longer tithe.So that verse has become mere history and for reference purpose only. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 8:59am On Oct 25, 2014 |
vooks:pls refer to the last post you menntion about ritual cleansing.. We are not communicating here at all. Concening the law applicable to believers bible calls it the spirit law or the law of the Spirit..i kept emphazing on the Spirit behind circumcision, sabbath and the commandments you kept on harping on that christians are not required to adhere to. I can not teach you these here. You have to go on a personal search for yourself pls. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 9:03am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Zikkyy:To categorically lay claim that God did not promise to bless those who give is also a big error on your part. There are plethora of scriptures that says God will reward those who give. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:04am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam: This is part of it. Why give money to MOG if the money is likely to be diverted to funding private jet? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 9:08am On Oct 25, 2014 |
So all you need is to catch the Spirit behind every Law in Torah right? Bidam: |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:12am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam: You don't get it. It's not bout what God promised, it's about the motivation for giving. Even non-givers receive God's blessing. If there were no blessing attached to tithing (as preached by pastor), a good number (if not all) of people will not be tithing. Their 'giving' is conditional. This is contrary to the teachings of Christ & the apostles. 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:16am On Oct 25, 2014 |
gebest: Do you also burn your offerings? after all it is biblical. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Zikkyy(m): 9:24am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Bidam: Depends on the message. What exactly is the pastor teaching that will require quote from Malachi 3:8-10? tell me. Bidam: If tithe is in the bible nko? How do you teach voluntary tithing? tell me. 1 Like |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by paxonel(m): 9:28am On Oct 25, 2014 |
tithe is never a law in Christianity, it was Jewish traditional law, we are not Jews, we are igbo or hausa or yoruba etc (gentiles ) 3 Likes |
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