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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 8:48am On Nov 12, 2014

VolvoS60:
^^^^

You keep pushing the notion that oil is a curse. And I'll keep reminding you that for every Nigeria there is a Norway.

Not everyone pissed their opportunity away. Some countries took that oil and did something worthwhile with it.

160 million people pleading diminished responsibility.

Norway's got industries apart from oil, produces far more oil than we do, and just has 11 million people......Nigeria just imports the products of other industries.produces less oil than the UAE....and for a population approaching 160million.

Oil is still a curse.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by SantaMafia: 8:48am On Nov 12, 2014

hrhobi1:
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Bro use Google plz. Even Ghana can produce a nuclear weapon within 6 months.

Even Ghana? huh

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 12, 2014

timowale:
likr who & who?

Maybe people like.....YOU.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by FolabiCash: 8:49am On Nov 12, 2014

The US has said Nigeria will divide come 2015 and you think the U S won't want to make that come true?

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 8:51am On Nov 12, 2014

So by extension the govt is to be blamed for not trading with Rushia for arms.

Also simply means USA are conspirators too?

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Mcowubaba: 8:53am On Nov 12, 2014

DRealGeesam:
Hmmmm. But seriously there LOTS of countries that are willing to sell to us and dont give a damn about USA policies, why cant we patronize them.

Blaming USA for our whoas is getting stale, we are at war, we cant keep being the cry baby of the world.

It is also high time our government start investing heavily in Research and Development. Who says we cant build our own weapons?

South Africa has nuclear weapon, North Korea that is far poorer than Nigeria has good weapons development programs. What are we still waiting for

Money being spent on pilgrimage, should be diverted into Research and Development, In technology and medicine. Of what national benefit is the pilgrimage our government spends billions on, sending thousands of people to Mecca and Jerusalem.

We had better wake from our silly slumber

How can a country be so blessed and rich as Nigeria and we cant invest in weapons developments, then why do we have so many first class engineers in the first place?

I was at the Airforce Industries, Kaduna about 4 years ago. Honestly things are still archaic there. We are not at par with this decade at all.

USA is world power today, because they invested in research and development not sponsoring their people on pilgrimage to mecca and jerusalem.

NIGERIA!!! WAKE UP!!!

Haba!

Post advert today and ask nigerians to volunteer in weapons development and see how you will be flooded with ideas and men of great knowledge

It wont be easy as ABC, but it is not that difficult too if there is visionary leadership. FACT: India is already sending men to space and probes to the moon (they where the first to discover water on the moon) yet they got independence only 3 years ahead of Nigeria

u should run 4 president..

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by egift(m): 8:55am On Nov 12, 2014

OLADD:
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What a shallow brain!

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Nobody: 8:57am On Nov 12, 2014

I am quite sure we can make do with Russian hardware. Or maybe German. And then again there is Isreal. What about China!

Forget this double-crossing two face Americans already.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DRealGeesam(m): 8:57am On Nov 12, 2014

mccash:
Is it only U.S that sale weapons? What of china russia erac parkistan. They should give me the money I will get them better arms to fight boko haram. What kind of story is that U.S refuse to sale arms for u in that case we should fold our hands and watch goat give birth to human if u can't find ur black sheep in day light u can't found it at night

Lol

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by gidjah(m): 8:57am On Nov 12, 2014

our military are too brutal,the way they handle issues wit civilians are never fair,they are not civilised.this can be seen in the way they went bananas in lagos city last week.too many illiterates in that sectormost of us know this.though the u s ,has another agenda underneath,we only played into her hands out of the foolishnes and wickednes of our leaders.why cant we look inwards for once?we have refineries yet we go abroad to refine crude oil!

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by mecusbosco(m): 8:58am On Nov 12, 2014

egift:
First Nigeria will not scatter. Secondly, Jonathan is not transparent and excessively corrupt - nobody in his right mind make a deal with such person.

How can one justify smuggling money to South Africa to procure illegal arms when there legitimate ways to get it? Why is Jonathan afraid of the Front gate? Why must he always enter his good neighbour's house by jumping over the fence at the back-yard? Why is he exporting his Stealing-Is-Not-Corruption style of Government to other countries?

The Zoologist must be voted out before he sinks this nation with anarchy and corruption.

Legitimate ways of getting it includes the ones Americans are currently selling to you right? Bushmo like you!

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by iamord(m): 8:58am On Nov 12, 2014

huptin:
If a dog that use to wag its tail when its sights, you start barking at your sight, then there is every reason to be afraid. This sudden change in America's attitude to Nigeria is very suspicious.

Nigeria is very incompetent. its that simple. And also elections is coming up. They also Got their ears on the ground. Its Not a favorable time for that. cos there are people with ulterior motives. Na your elites know what's up. But na to push blame dem sabi ..smh

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Billygee2u: 9:02am On Nov 12, 2014

egift:
Story for mami-water. Keep spraying cluelessness and bringing shame on Nigerians just because you are serving under a Zoologist.

if you refuse to see good that others have done and always look for a way to condemn others,despite their efforts,to keep doing good ,when you will need good things to happen in your life ,your efforts will always be frustrated by the same demons that first used you against others .

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by rman: 9:02am On Nov 12, 2014

DRealGeesam:
Ok sir

Very matured response to the immature post. Respect!

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by VolvoS60(m): 9:02am On Nov 12, 2014

bushdoc9919:
Norway's got industries apart from oil, produces far more oil than we do, and just has 11 million people......Nigeria just imports the products of other industries.produces less oil than the UAE....and for a population approaching 160million.

Oil is still a curse.

^^^^
No sir, oil is not a curse. It is a resource like any other. What counts is what you do with it.

The academic literature on the Dutch disease phenomenon has been around for a long time. Did Nigeria's decision makers do everything within their power to avoid repeating the mistakes of other 'resource cursed' countries? No. Did we the people hold them accountable for this? No.

You say the Norwegians diversified their economy, produce more oil and have fewer children. There is nothing preventing Nigeria from doing any of these things (although its too late now for some of them). You have generated an association or correlation in your mind between oil and economic collapse. Where is the causality there?

I love the way we keep pleading diminished responsibility. Our next excuse will be temporary insanity. angry

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by egesie(m): 9:05am On Nov 12, 2014

DRealGeesam:
Hmmmm. But seriously there LOTS of countries that are willing to sell to us and dont give a damn about USA policies, why cant we patronize them.

Blaming USA for our whoas is getting stale, we are at war, we cant keep being the cry baby of the world.

It is also high time our government start investing heavily in Research and Development. Who says we cant build our own weapons?

South Africa has nuclear weapon, North Korea that is far poorer than Nigeria has good weapons development programs. What are we still waiting for

Money being spent on pilgrimage, should be diverted into Research and Development, In technology and medicine. Of what national benefit is the pilgrimage our government spends billions on, sending thousands of people to Mecca and Jerusalem.

We had better wake from our silly slumber

How can a country be so blessed and rich as Nigeria and we cant invest in weapons developments, then why do we have so many first class engineers in the first place?

I was at the Airforce Industries, Kaduna about 4 years ago. Honestly things are still archaic there. We are not at par with this decade at all.

USA is world power today, because they invested in research and development not sponsoring their people on pilgrimage to mecca and jerusalem.

NIGERIA!!! WAKE UP!!!

Haba!

Post advert today and ask nigerians to volunteer in weapons development and see how you will be flooded with ideas and men of great knowledge

It wont be easy as ABC, but it is not that difficult too if there is visionary leadership. FACT: India is already sending men to space and probes to the moon (they where the first to discover water on the moon) yet they got independence only 3 years ahead of Nigeria

erm, sorry to rain on ur parade oo, India got independence in 1947, 13 years(not 3) before Nigeria, 'twas Ghana that got their independence in 1957, 3 years before Nigeria.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by egift(m): 9:05am On Nov 12, 2014

mecusbosco:
Legitimate ways of getting it includes the ones Americans are currently selling to you right?

There are many countries Nigeria can comfortably and legitimately buy arms from through official channels. Majority of the arms the Nigerian armed forces are using today were bought that way. Even companies in South Africa.

So why did Jonathan use a pastor's jet in smuggling money through back-channels to South Africa? Why tarnish the Gospel of Christ by hiding behind the Missions?

The are legal means to buy arms - and Jonathan is exploiting the back-channels. Call him to order before he end up patronizing Al-Quada and other Rogue Organization/Countries.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DRealGeesam(m): 9:06am On Nov 12, 2014

rman:
Very matured response to the immature post. Respect!

Thnx

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by biggyboy1970: 9:07am On Nov 12, 2014

i remember vividly the america govt ask the government to probe the former COAS how he turn overnight billionaire so instead of blaming the american let the government look into issue at home and stop blaming people for lack of vision on their path
http://www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/us-wants-ihejirika%E2%80%99s-sudden-%E2%80%98billions%E2%80%99-probed

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DRealGeesam(m): 9:09am On Nov 12, 2014

egesie:
erm, sorry to rain on ur parade oo, India got independence in 1947, 13 years(not 3) before Nigeria, 'twas Ghana that got their independence in 1957, 3 years before Nigeria.

Oh mixup. The 7 got me confused.
You didnt rain on my parade, you simple provided info that will educate. Will correct it now.

Their development is still a challenge to us anyway.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by NobleG1(m): 9:10am On Nov 12, 2014

When U.S. sent delegates to advice Nigeria on BH problem, they discovered;
- how corruptiion have eaten into the fabric of Nigeria.
- how Nigerian officials are too incompetent to do anything.
- how unstable the political situation is.
- how lawless Nigeria is.

And probably concluded Nigeria is a rogue state. Thus selling weapons to Nigeria is like selling weapons to criminals.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by aumeehn: 9:12am On Nov 12, 2014

DRealGeesam:
Hmmmm. But seriously there LOTS of countries that are willing to sell to us and dont give a damn about USA policies, why cant we patronize them.

Blaming USA for our whoas is getting stale, we are at war, we cant keep being the cry baby of the world.

It is also high time our government start investing heavily in Research and Development. Who says we cant build our own weapons?

South Africa has nuclear weapon, North Korea that is far poorer than Nigeria has good weapons development programs. What are we still waiting for

Money being spent on pilgrimage, should be diverted into Research and Development, In technology and medicine. Of what national benefit is the pilgrimage our government spends billions on, sending thousands of people to Mecca and Jerusalem.

We had better wake from our silly slumber

How can a country be so blessed and rich as Nigeria and we cant invest in weapons developments, then why do we have so many first class engineers in the first place?

I was at the Airforce Industries, Kaduna about 4 years ago. Honestly things are still archaic there. We are not at par with this decade at all.

USA is world power today, because they invested in research and development not sponsoring their people on pilgrimage to mecca and jerusalem.

NIGERIA!!! WAKE UP!!!

Haba!

Post advert today and ask nigerians to volunteer in weapons development and see how you will be flooded with ideas and men of great knowledge

It wont be easy as ABC, but it is not that difficult too if there is visionary leadership. FACT: India is already sending men to space and probes to the moon (they where the first to discover water on the moon) yet they got independence only 3 years ahead of Nigeria

subhanallah.....may God almighty have pity on your poor soul......so the only thing u see is the Money spent on pilgrimage?? now tell me where is the oil subsidy money where is our tax the money jona keep looting dosnt count...mtsw! from your words i know u re an atheist but God knows all...!

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by Billygee2u: 9:12am On Nov 12, 2014*

only people who are short sighted , see Amerishit as Nigeria's ally.
I have now see reasons Arab nations hate Amirica

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by size38: 9:12am On Nov 12, 2014

A shameless Nigerian Ambassador whose country cannot manufacture light arms after more than 50yrs of her independence with huge oil, gas materials and human resource

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by dvee2: 9:14am On Nov 12, 2014

I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF USA NOT SELLING ARMS TO NIGERIA, HOWEVER I AGREE WITH THEM THAT OUR SOLDIERS COMMIT HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS EVERY WHERE THEY GO ON A MISSION IN NIGERIA. YOU DONT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NORTH ONLY TO COME TO A CONCLUSION. REMEMBER ZAKI BIAM, REMEMBER NIGER DELTA - ODI. THERE WAS A VIDEO IN CIRCULATION ON THE NET DURING THE NIGER DELTA MILITANCY WHERE TWO BROTHERS WERE SLAUGHTERED IN COLD BLOOD BY OUR MILITARY. AT THAT TIME MOST PEOPLE CONDEMN THE ACT AS GROSS VIOLATION OF THEIR FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT BY NIGERIAN SOLDIERS. THESE SAME PEOPLE ARE NOW SAYING THERE IS NO VIOLATION BECAUSE THEIR REGION IS NOT INVOLVE IN THE CURRENT FRACAS.
SAME IN PLATEAU STATE DURING THE JOS CRISIS, INNOCENT PEOPLE WHERE MURDERED BY OUR MILITARY.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by egesie(m): 9:16am On Nov 12, 2014

problem solved

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/boko-haram-fg-turns-russia-china-usa-uk-fail-nigeria/

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DRealGeesam(m): 9:17am On Nov 12, 2014

aumeehn:
subhanallah.....may God almighty have pitybon your poor soul......so the all thing u see is the Money spent on pilgrimage?? now tell me where is the oik subsidy money where is our tax the money jona keep looting dosnt count...mtsw! from your words i know u re an atheist but God knows all...!

Sir, I am not an Atheist.
There is simply no reason why government should be sponsoring pilgrimage. I agree with you that the other areas of government wastage shld be addressed.
Even Islam does not force pilgrimage on faithfuls, let rich believers help their brethren that want to go on pilgrimage and Allah will bless them.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by spoilerx: 9:18am On Nov 12, 2014

Pavarottii:
I saw on channels tv "US condemns terrorist attacks in the NE part of Nigeria, and I was like, I thought they refused to sell us fighter jets to defeat this Same terrorism; I just concluded that these people actually know what they are doing. Always carrying bad news of Nigeria on CNN! Let them know that "Nobody or country is beyond God"!

GEJ till 2019

isn't it shameful enough that we have to rely on America for weaponry?

it still boils down to a rotten educational sector.

abi are weapons designed and manufactured by wizards?

why can't we manufacture and design ours?

America has the right to sell weapons to who it deems fit......

like the other guy said why can't we buy from Russia or China?

as always Nigeria remains a nation of consumers.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by ZUBY77(m): 9:19am On Nov 12, 2014

The United States laws prohibits the sale of Weapons to countries with confirmed human rights misconduct.

They are very clear on that. Don't blame them.
That is one reason we must embrace some countries such as Iran, Russia and China. Forget about the bad names the West gave them, the end story is that they are surviving on their own.

In the United Nations security meeting, we must not put all our eggs in one basket. We must stand semi-neutral like the Chinese.
We must not be in a haste to support invasion of any nation.
We must not follow the countries that can defend themselves properly because they will just go to their Parliament and vote to abandon you in the last minute.
We saw that with ebola Zmapp and weapons.

This is why I maintained that we must find out what works for us and do it instead of trying to copy other people. Unfortunately people like us who can come up with such ideas are relegated to the background because we don't have millions to give as bribe to the top corrupt officials.

Remember what I said: We must find out what works for us... Both in health, administration, sports etc.. Every sector.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by jireh250: 9:19am On Nov 12, 2014

This reminds me of their refusal to assist with Zmapp...God will always come sure for Nigeria, changing the Ebola story from shame to glory on CNN, such that America asked us how we were able to curb it...please let's look elsewhere.

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Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by DRealGeesam(m): 9:21am On Nov 12, 2014

NobleG1:
When U.S. sent delegates to advice Nigeria on BH problem, they discovered;
- how corruptiion have eaten into the fabric of Nigeria.
- how Nigerian officials are too incompetent to do anything.
- how unstable the political situation is.
- how lawless Nigeria is.

And probably concluded Nigeria is a rogue state. Thus selling weapons to Nigeria is like selling weapons to criminals.

If we will put all sentiments aside. What you just said is the absolute truth.

Re: Nigerian Ambassador Blasts US Refusal To Sell Arms by blakky97(m): 9:21am On Nov 12, 2014

In our war against biafra, we relied on Britain to send us weapons, Even though they colonized us, they disappointed us. So many years later, we are still talking about who to send us arms. We have a military university NDA. After how many years of establishment of that institution, we are still looking for where to get arms, when even India can display home-made artillery weapons that stun the world. What a shame! Africa's giant

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