Many have CRITICISED T B Joshua for many things. Some claim he's a GRAPHIC, MOTION PICTURE ARTIST per excellence, some claim his source of power is OCCULTIC but these accusations do not HOLD WATER because if they do we would also have to ACCUSE the likes of OLUKOYA (MFM), ADEBOYE (RCCG), KUMUYI (DLBC) etc...However a formidable accusation would be against his DOCTRINE and it APPEARS no one has anything against his DOCTRINE...

Please if you have anything against his DOCTRINE, let's examine them in the light of God's Word!

Over to the THEOLOGIANS and amateurs!!!

...still awaiting the stalwarts of scriptures to throw stones at the doctrines and teachings of T B Joshua!

Pure and undiluted word of God.
He preaches & practices love by example, an embodiment of humility ...

AdeniyiA:
Pure and undiluted word of God.
He preaches & practices love by example, an embodiment of humility ...

...thank yu for your submission bro...i'm still awaiting the doctors of theology with a doctrinal grouse with the teachings of T B Joshua.

lolz dos guyz won't show up but if it is to criticized dae wud show up

lolz dos guyz won't show up but if it is to criticize dae wud show up

gabe15:
lolz dos guyz won't show up but if it is to criticize dae wud show up

Ma bro i tire o...it's nt enuf 2 just give baseless criticisms...let those against his teachings give their critique...afterall faith comes by hearing the word of God...so are the words of T B Joshua the words of faith and hence the words of God or they false? CRITICS we await yu!

i see nothing wrong with this man

yeah some say he beats his disciples, but those disciples are adults who have allowed themselves to be beaten
besides, TB is a native man, so such type of discipline style is understandable from him
what I would find strange is if an aje pastor like Pst Paul dey beat im people

Back then, Dem be dey tok say he says Emmanuel instead of Jesus
but then Jesus is not the name that Christ was known as when he was on earth either
its our modern way of addressing Him

They say he is theatric
but since when has that become a crime
after all it is said that after despoiling principalities and powers, Jesus made a SHOW of them publicly

The collapse of the building is a purely secular matter that should be treated as such, and the neccesary laws applied

Everyone cannot possibly have the same style of ministering

…...Seasons greetings TB Joshua

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] in the light of the above text taken from Matthew 6:1-4; who will you say this man, T.B. Joshua is? He publicly flaunts his alms giving so as to be loved by many and also to lure many unsuspecting men to his congregation.

efficiencie:
Many have CRITICISED T B Joshua for many things. Some claim he's a GRAPHIC, MOTION PICTURE ARTIST per excellence, some claim his source of power is OCCULTIC but these accusations do not HOLD WATER because if they do we would also have to ACCUSE the likes of OLUKOYA (MFM), ADEBOYE (RCCG), KUMUYI (DLBC) etc...However a formidable accusation would be against his DOCTRINE and it APPEARS no one has anything against his DOCTRINE...

Please if you have anything against his DOCTRINE, let's examine them in the light of God's Word!

Over to the THEOLOGIANS and amateurs!!!

What are his doctrines?

Soloter:
1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font] in the light of the above text taken from Matthew 6:1-4; who will you say this man, T.B. Joshua is? He publicly flaunts his alms giving so as to be loved by many and also to lure many unsuspecting men to his congregation.

As for giving in the public, if T B Joshua does it to be seen of men then his reward awaits but if he's doing it to encourage and spur others to do likewise then his reward also awaits... but what would you say of Solomon who gave 22000 oxen and 120000 sheep to God in one day as seen in I Kings 8:63-64 (is that a kind of show off to you) and what of those who sold their property and brought the proceeds to the feet of Peter as seen in Acts 4:34-35 wouldn't that be a show off too...

Bro, that man T B Joshua teaches that 'what you give is not as important as the way you give it' so you see he knows that giving must be from a sincere, broken and contrite heart...and i believe he gives that way to make many follow suit...


you say he LURES people to church!!! That's funny because more than 70% of the people there throng the church for solutions they can get from God that money cannot get! He hasn't chained, forced or compelled anyone to stay, pay tithe or worship there...

Bro bring a SOLID ARGUMENT against his DOCTRINES...

efficiencie:

As for giving in the public, if T B Joshua does it to be seen of men then his reward awaits but if he's doing it to encourage and spur others to do likewise then his reward also awaits... but what would you say of Solomon who gave 22000 oxen and 120000 sheep to God in one day as seen in I Kings 8:63-64 (is that a kind of show off to you) and what of those who sold their property and brought the proceeds to the feet of Peter as seen in Acts 4:34-35 wouldn't that be a show off too...
Bro, that man T B Joshua teaches that 'what you give is not as important as the way you give it' so you see he knows that giving must be from a sincere, broken and contrite heart...and i believe he gives that way to make many follow suit...
you say he LURES people to church!!! That's funny because more than 70% of the people there throng the church for solutions they can get from God that money cannot get! He hasn't chained, forced or compelled anyone to stay, pay tithe or worship there...
Bro bring a SOLID ARGUMENT against his DOCTRINES...

I think Solot quoted New Testament and clearly about ALMS giving, respect that context.

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I think Solot quoted New Testament and clearly about ALMS giving, respect that context.

i did bro, i respected the context and in addition i gave him scriptural instances where his criticism of T B Joshua could also have been levelled against Solomon and the brethren of the Church of Acts...so it's a thing of the heart and only God searches the heart so only God can judge NOT US MERE HUMANS...but we can judge his TEACHINGS against the standard of the WORD...

for by our words we are condemned and by them justified (Matthew 12:37)

efficiencie:



i did bro, i respected the context and in addition i gave him scriptural instances where his criticism of T B Joshua could also have been levelled against Solomon and the brethren of the Church of Acts...so it's a thing of the heart and only God searches the heart so only God can judge NOT US MERE HUMANS...but we can judge his TEACHINGS against the standard of the WORD...

for by our words we are condemned and by them justified (Matthew 12:37)

What are TBJ's teachings/doctrines?
Solomon wasn't giving alms. Giving to God directly through offerings or His ministers is not alms. You give alms to poor people to help them, that was what Jesus talked about. A thousand disobediences do not make the Word of Jesus irrelevant, His words don't pass away as it were.

efficiencie:



i did bro, i respected the context and in addition i gave him scriptural instances where his criticism of T B Joshua could also have been levelled against Solomon and the brethren of the Church of Acts...so it's a thing of the heart and only God searches the heart so only God can judge NOT US MERE HUMANS...but we can judge his TEACHINGS against the standard of the WORD...

for by our words we are condemned and by them justified (Matthew 12:37)

Simply state his doctrines, lets see how it measures up to the scriptures.

I know he does not go to people and preach the goodnews, but stays in one place expecting people to come to him. Does he also encourage going from house to house, market places to spread the goodnews? He is the head of his church. That is a disqualification. If he takes tithes, then that disqualifies him too. I do not know all his doctrine. So do well to say them.

JMAN05:


I know he does not go to people and preach the goodnews, but stays in one place expecting people to come to him. Does he also encourage going from house to house, market places to spread the goodnews?

get your facts before using the gavel...

T B Joshua sends evangelists to countries for revival via deliverance and many accept Christ by just attending and attesting to the power of God...he's been to Korea, China, UK, Ghana etc spreading the knowledge of God's power, stopping the mouth of Atheits and quickening the faith of others! So sir get your facts right!

JMAN05:


He is the head of his church. That is a disqualification.

If he's the head of his church then Olukoya, Adeboye, Oyedepo and even Kumuyi are what...church members or what!? Olukoya is called G.O, Adeboye called Senior Pastor, Kumuyi called General Suprintendent...the list is endless...but as mature Christians we know that these men are shepherds but yet part of the brethren...so is T B Joshua! A shepherd but yet a brother and not a RULER OF THE CHURCH because he leads by the HOLYGHOST!

JMAN05:

If he takes tithes, then that disqualifies him too. I do not know all his doctrine. So do well to say them.

Doesn't Olukoya, Adeboye, Oritsejafor and even the Catholics take tithes...bro raise other valid doctrinal issues...

efficiencie:


get your facts before using the gavel...

T B Joshua sends evangelists to countries for revival via deliverance and many accept Christ by just attending and attesting to the power of God...he's been to Korea, China, UK, Ghana etc spreading the knowledge of God's power, stopping the mouth of Atheits and quickening the faith of others! So sir get your facts right!

How many poor people has he stepped into there houses for preaching? If he goes to UK, CHINA, where does he go, to the houses of the poor as well? into hinterlands, and thatch and mud houses? or does he land in a big man's hotel, or popular stadia expecting people to come for "night of wonders"?

Why is it that I ve not seen these his preachers in my house or even my street? or are they that few? He is only known for miracle not preaching the goodnews. His so called evangelists also go to advertise miracle, not preaching message about the kingdom. Is he sending to other nations when no one has seen his preachers bring the message to there doorsteps. Jesus used his feet and walked along the streets and houses to preach. Even though he had many people who came to hear him, it never made him to stand and tell people to assemble in a stadium, "I will be coming on tuesday for deliverance, if u ar not rich, you will be rich, if you dont have a husband, you will get one, if you want a big job, come and get one". That is the gospel we hear today. Jesus went and searched for people, not announcing a Crusade.

The founder of Christianity, and the Second in Command in the whole Universe, used his feet and walked on the way searching for people, he didnt live a luxurious livestyle, while these idiots that think they are something, will stay in hotel, private jet and expect people to come looking for them.

If he's the head of his church then Olukoya, Adeboye, Oyedepo and even Kumuyi are what...church members or what!? Olukoya is called G.O, Adeboye called Senior Pastor, Kumuyi called General Suprintendent...the list is endless...but as mature Christians we know that these men are shepherds but yet part of the brethren...so is T B Joshua! A shepherd but yet a brother and not a RULER OF THE CHURCH because he leads by the HOLYGHOST!

Whether they call themselves GO or not, they are the head of there churches, you ll always see the head of these churches drawn on a large bill board with his wife. That's there church, NOT Christ's. Both Adeboye, Kumuyi, Chris, there bill boards tells you the owner of the churches. Thats there enterprise, they are all rich business men.

Doesn't Olukoya, Adeboye, Oritsejafor and even the Catholics take tithes...bro raise other valid doctrinal issues...

Why wont they collect tithe when neither Jesus nor Paul, Peter or James collected tithes. These are business men, they can tithe or sow seed, thats money-making avenues.

I said you should produce his doctrines here, I never claim to know all of them, but I know that whichever way, there is a common demoninator, that even if you do not know there doctrines, this enterprises must have similar trade mark.

Hey shuttup....which doctrines does this Tuberculosis joshua teaches?does he teach...whether you admit it or not that man has been revealed to be an Occultic grand master...tell mi the doctrines and ill get back to u

Equado:
Hey shuttup....which doctrines does this Tuberculosis joshua teaches?does he teach...whether you admit it or not that man has been revealed to be an Occultic grand master...tell mi the doctrines and ill get back to u

he has being revealed by who? u are fool just sharap

JMAN05:


How many poor people has he stepped into there houses for preaching? If he goes to UK, CHINA, where does he go, to the houses of the poor as well? into hinterlands, and thatch and mud houses? or does he land in a big man's hotel, or popular stadia expecting people to come for "night of wonders"?

Why is it that I ve not seen these his preachers in my house or even my street? or are they that few? He is only known for miracle not preaching the goodnews. His so called evangelists also go to advertise miracle, not preaching message about the kingdom. Is he sending to other nations when no one has seen his preachers bring the message to there doorsteps. Jesus used his feet and walked along the streets and houses to preach. Even though he had many people who came to hear him, it never made him to stand and tell people to assemble in a stadium, "I will be coming on tuesday for deliverance, if u ar not rich, you will be rich, if you dont have a husband, you will get one, if you want a big job, come and get one". That is the gospel we hear today. Jesus went and searched for people, not announcing a Crusade.

The founder of Christianity, and the Second in Command in the whole Universe, used his feet and walked on the way searching for people, he didnt live a luxurious livestyle, while these idiots that think they are something, will stay in hotel, private jet and expect people to come looking for them.




Whether they call themselves GO or not, they are the head of there churches, you ll always see the head of these churches drawn on a large bill board with his wife. That's there church, NOT Christ's. Both Adeboye, Kumuyi, Chris, there bill boards tells you the owner of the churches. Thats there enterprise, they are all rich business men.



Why wont they collect tithe when neither Jesus nor Paul, Peter or James collected tithes. These are business men, they can tithe or sow seed, thats money-making avenues.

I said you should produce his doctrines here, I never claim to know all of them, but I know that whichever way, there is a common demoninator, that even if you do not know there doctrines, this enterprises must have similar trade mark.

read your bible bro before making comments on christian matters based on total ignorance...read Acts 4:33-37 people in the church of Acts did not only pay tithes and offerings they sold what they had and brought it to the feet of the apostles...they gave with a true heart better than we do nowadays...read scriptures well sir, for by they you think you have eternal life...

Equado:
Hey shuttup....which doctrines does this Tuberculosis joshua teaches?does he teach...whether you admit it or not that man has been revealed to be an Occultic grand master...tell mi the doctrines and ill get back to u

my brother it is not the ACCUSSED that will provide evidence for the PROSECUTION... you may be part of those attacking his ministry so please provide the doctrines that you are against and let us examine them together...

we do not need to get unnecessarily sentimental and use abusive words...you may have personal hatred for T B Joshua but please we are not here to vent our hatred but to examine the grouse that any may have against the doctrine of T B Joshua and his teachings to see if they are in line with the scriptures and its tenets...However if you do not have any grouse against his doctrine or teachings and yet you hate him then you are in danger of Christ's own words in Matthew 5: 21-22

efficiencie:


my brother it is not the ACCUSSED that will provide evidence for the PROSECUTION... you may be part of those attacking his ministry so please provide the doctrines that you are against and let us examine them together...

You created the thread nah. I'm asking for the umpteenth time, what are TBJ's doctrines/teachings?

The numbers of time I have watch this man programme and listen to his preaching, he preach more about love than any other pastor in Nigeria.

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You created the thread nah. I'm asking for the umpteenth time, what are TBJ's doctrines/teachings?

Bro did yu read the opening comment? Pls do! I'm not prosecuting T B Joshua, rather i'm just trying to play the Umpire here...so as many as have listened him and have found fault with his teachings should speak up and well analyze the criticisms in the light of scripture...

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What are TBJ's teachings/doctrines?
Solomon wasn't giving alms. Giving to God directly through offerings or His ministers is not alms. You give alms to poor people to help them, that was what Jesus talked about. A thousand disobediences do not make the Word of Jesus irrelevant, His words don't pass away as it were.

Solomon's sacrifice was not done in secret and the brethren of Acts did not give their contributions in secret...if T B Joshua also gives in the public his alms would be rejected if he's giving to be noticed of men but it would be accepted if he's acting under the inspired instruction of the HolyGhost...simple!

malvisguy212:
The numbers of time I have watch this man programme and listen to his preaching, he preach more about love than any other pastor in Nigeria.

Thank you! Now does anyone have anything against T B Joshua's doctrine of love? Anyone?

Am also guilty of falsely accusing TB Joshua. When i was growing up, all i heard about him were bad unproven things and i grew up with this sentiments against him. However, i didn't take time to investigate all the bad reports i heard about him.

The problem is that most people cant particularly say why they hate him or why they think he is a false prophet. They act based on rumours they've heard about him without carrying out their own investigation on him.

Only God knows if he is a false prophet or not, people should stop spreading false rumour about him. Anybody that has concrete evidence against him should publish it for the whole world to see.

michaelwestern:
Am also guilty of falsely accusing TB Joshua. When i was growing up, all i heard about him were bad unproven things and i grew up with this sentiments against him. However, i didn't take time to investigate all the bad reports i heard about him.

The problem is that most people cant particularly say why they hate him or why they think he is a false prophet. They act based on rumours they've heard about him without carrying out their own investigation on him.

Only God knows if he is a false prophet or not, people should stop spreading false rumour about him. Anybody that has concrete evidence against him should publish it for the whole world to see.

Ma brother that's why i created this thread...I just want to know what that man teaches that makes him so hated by those who claim to be Christians...

i want anyone scriptural evidence against his doctrinal positions to give it and let's examine it with the iron balance of scripture...but unfortunately no one's saying anything concerning this...

efficiencie:



Solomon's sacrifice was not done in secret and the brethren of Acts did not give their contributions in secret...if T B Joshua also gives in the public his alms would be rejected if he's giving to be noticed of men but it would be accepted if he's acting under the inspired instruction of the HolyGhost...simple!

It's like you did not read what i said. "Solomon wasn't giving alms. Giving to God directly through offerings or His ministers is not alms. You give alms to poor people to help them, that was what Jesus talked about."

Mat 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Mat 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
Mat 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Obviously, he is not acting under the inspired instruction of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit does not contradict the Word.

efficiencie:


Bro did yu read the opening comment? Pls do! I'm not prosecuting T B Joshua, rather i'm just trying to play the Umpire here...so as many as have listened him and have found fault with his teachings should speak up and well analyze the criticisms in the light of scripture...

What are his teachings/doctrines? As a self appointed umpire, you should have some idea what his teachings are na. Bring up his teachings and we will consider them in the light of God's Word. Sorry to say this, but i do not listen to him and do not have time for such. However, the 'few' times i have seen him, it has always being something superficial; some deliverance, or rice sharing or transformer giving, some prediction making. That seems to be about 95% of what i've seen TBJoshua doing. i've hardly seen him preach and the few times, it has still being very vague and superficial; nothing concrete or distinct. Any PROFESSING christian preacher would say the things he would say. Stuff close to motivational talk, God answers prayer, trust in God, focus on God, tell your neighbour Jesus is good. Some things close to that, these are all general.
i have a big problem with many of his practices and methods as they are not scriptural or biblical. The thread is about doctrine/teaching, so please, let's know his doctrine/teaching. Someone said something about T B Joshua's doctrine of love. Well, let's not get it twisted. Love is not sharing rice and money BTW. The Bible itself says so. On the scale of 1 Corinthians 13;
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

According to this scripture, one can distribute a lot of money, rice, scholarships, and whatever else TBJ does and still not have charity/love. People tend to say TBJ is a good man/top christian because he televises giving. Giving alone does not make one a christian as good and COMMENDABLE as it is. In fact, it is not even a proof of love according to the scripture passage above.
Usually, for me, the clearest proof of a child of God is their fruits. In this case, as a pastor, their converts or church members. The SCOAN members i have met are not it at all, lemme leave it at that.
Charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up. Charity doesn't advertise itself, it is not vain or puffed up, neither does it boast or brag. In that, TBJ's alleged charity scores low.
Charity doth not behave itself unseemly. A lot of unseemly stuff happens in the Synagogue deliverances. TBJ was one time a kind of specialist in making women clutch to their genitals, and some other not too fine things. Thank God for recent rebrandings sha, SCOAN has stepped up much, as it were. Of course you have video evidence, but it can be supplied in case you require. What more should one say, about the recent tragedy that happened in one of the Synagogue hostels and how SCOAN, TBJ and members handled it. The doctrine of love doesn't score high in my humble opinion.

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