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Ogbeche77:
Lol.. the same helpee that is currently disturbing peeps on the german travel thread for visa info... patriotic ko.. parrot ni

momoyama:
But what is there to getting a visa that requires info? Is it not simply a case of going to the German embassy? Anyway, maybe helpee just wants a visa for tourist travel. I doubt he is looking to move there to work.

saxywale:
Germany for toursm
why not the beautiful spots in Nigeria or west africa

helpee:
which country are you? So why do Americans abandon the beautiful tourist attractions in florida for the wilds in Kenya and pyramid in Egypt? Don't you see whites attend the calabar festival. Am I discussing with the wrong people here

saxywale:
That's exactly why I said why not the beeautiful spots in west africa. Atleast I have been on holiday myself to Ghana and The Gambia. But why would anyone want to go to Germany for tourism

saxywale:
Germany for toursm
why not the beautiful spots in Nigeria or west africa

justwise:
Its penny wise pound foolish. Have you noticed that some of them that preaches stay-in-Nigeria sermon spent millions a year to get foreign certificate, thousands on foreign holidays and some even married white women to get foreign passports? There are plenty very' hottly-pretty' Nigerian girls to marry.

Why not invest that money on schools in Nigeria or Africa? Why not take holidays in Nigeria or other African countries? Why do they work hard in Nigeria and spent it in western economy?

helpee:
I was forced to check your profile, I was not disappointed. Are u not the guy looking for ferry from ikorodu to ajah cos you are broke? Ripping off small small boys of their jamb form money? Upon that you said you couldn't raise money for your education in US, you tried oz ,no money now you said you pitched your tent with Canada. With this kind of background, I understand your frustration. You call yourself a system analyst...of what? it is the likes of you that made nigeria technologically backward. If you haven't abandoned your profession for the peanuts you will make from jamb form...maybe you will respect others and not jump to conclusion that every professional in Nigeria is as half baked as you are.

momoyama:
You live in Nigeria, do you not? So clearly it is not that unbearable a place

momoyama:
Unless I am mistaken, Nigeria is the economic power house of West Africa. That is according to the economist magazine.

helpee:
being a visa veteran here on nairaland, you definitely know about j-1 visa in America. Specifically, it is meant to acquire knowledge in America and you must return to your last country of residence to use that knowledge to benefit the country of last residence. So even Americans are not against training you with the purpose of sending you back to benefit your country. I am not against seeking quality education outside. I am not against tourism. I am not even against immigration . I am only against immigration based solely on the fact that Nigeria is irredeemable. Go and study abroad....come back with the knowledge to develop your country and not throw stones back home cos you think you are far away. some people sacrificed to take America to where it is today, they worked and believed in their country and that is why you can live the descent life you so much cherish in america

justwise:
Its penny wise pound foolish. Have you noticed that some of them that preaches stay-in-Nigeria sermon spent millions a year to get foreign certificate, thousands on foreign holidays and some even married white women to get foreign passports? There are plenty very' hottly-pretty' Nigerian girls to marry.

Why not invest that money on schools in Nigeria or Africa? Why not take holidays in Nigeria or other African countries? Why do they work hard in Nigeria and spent it in western economy?

helpee:
post what I said on the German thread!!! I only posted once on the German thread....and the only thing I said was that why did they turn it to a thread for student visa and that other nigerians may want to travel for tourism too. Did I ask you for info about how to get visa there? I am not interested in your info....keep it. I only recently started visiting travel section....thinking I will get a place of interest to visit only to discover that everywhere is flooded with visa to Cameroon. travel section is filled with students and frustrated nigerians so I won't blame anybody for the sentiment. In property section, we have more matured nigerians. Even the ones in diaspora visit that section to buy properties at home and learn how to build it. It is a forum for matured men maybe because most of them have come to value life. At mayomama, travel section of nairaland is meant for visas so naturally it attract people that are looking for visas and willing to abandon their country in search of quality life...same people will get their passport torn by a useless immigration officer abroad for their unpatriotic mindset and will run back to that same useless country, writing letters up and down and expect our sympathy. Mayomama, look for other places to get info about nigeria....definately not the travel section of nairaland. Now I know the reason why the guy opened the thread....who will not hate nigerians in diaspora for the kind of thrash they spew here

momoyama:
But to me "travel" means tourism, not migration!!! I thought this section was about travel in Nigeria and Nigerians interested in travel (i.e. traveling for leisure to learn other cultures). It is disappointing if it really is just about getting out of the country, as you say.

saxywale:
Yes. All my life in Europe and America, hardly...I say hardly would any one visit Germany for tourism. Germany is not a migrant/ immigrants friendly country. Especially to people of color.
My half Zimbabwean/German friend moved to the UK, When he could no longer bear the racist taunt.
And you my friend think that is an "excellent" destination for tourism. I laugh in Swahili....
Do yourself some good. Read and acquire knowledge.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/08/8-worst-countries-black-people-travel/

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues

saxywale:
Yes. All my life in Europe and America, hardly...I say hardly would any one visit Germany for tourism. Germany is not a migrant/ immigrants friendly country. Especially to people of color.
My half Zimbabwean/German friend moved to the UK, When he could no longer bear the racist taunt.
And you my friend think that is an "excellent" destination for tourism. I laugh in Swahili....
Do yourself some good. Read and acquire knowledge.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/08/8-worst-countries-black-people-travel/

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues

momoyama:
I have no need to read anything. I have been to Germany maybe 10 times as a tourist and therefore I know from experience. How the hell does a tourist suffer racism? You stay in a hotel, the staff treat you well (or get fired) and you are there as a paying guest. It is only if you intend to migrate there that it matters whether or not people are racist. Also, I can tell you a secret that seems somehow to elude black people. I have been all over the world, from Japan, to Argentina, to Iceland, to Peru to France and NOWHERE is as racist as the United States of America. Absolutely nowhere is as obsessed with race.

momoyama:
I see you get your information from the "atlanta black star". How laughable. Only a country as racist and racially obsessed as the USA would have special newspapers for people of different colours. While I feel sorry for Black Americans, I would not recommend relying on them for your information about the world. Probably the least informed and most ignorant group on the planet.

momoyama:
I have no need to read anything. I have been to Germany maybe 10 times as a tourist and therefore I know from experience. How the hell does a tourist suffer racism? You stay in a hotel, the staff treat you well (or get fired) and you are there as a paying guest. It is only if you intend to migrate there that it matters whether or not people are racist. Also, I can tell you a secret that seems somehow to elude black people. I have been all over the world, from Japan, to Argentina, to Iceland, to Peru to France and NOWHERE is as racist as the United States of America. Absolutely nowhere is as obsessed with race.

saxywale:
Anyway, in other news

https://www.nairaland.com/2094762/parents-gss-abuja-school-gate

Parents rush to children's school in the capital of Nigeria to pick their children cos of a bomb scare.

saxywale:
Yes. All my life in Europe and America, hardly...I say hardly would any one visit Germany for tourism. Germany is not a migrant/ immigrants friendly country. Especially to people of color.
My half Zimbabwean/German friend moved to the UK, When he could no longer bear the racist taunt.
And you my friend think that is an "excellent" destination for tourism. I laugh in Swahili....
Do yourself some good. Read and acquire knowledge.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/08/8-worst-countries-black-people-travel/

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues

saxywale:
Yes. All my life in Europe and America, hardly...I say hardly would any one visit Germany for tourism. Germany is not a migrant/ immigrants friendly country. Especially to people of color.
My half Zimbabwean/German friend moved to the UK, When he could no longer bear the racist taunt.
And you my friend think that is an "excellent" destination for tourism. I laugh in Swahili....
Do yourself some good. Read and acquire knowledge.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/08/8-worst-countries-black-people-travel/

http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/guide-to-european-racist-leagues

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What Is the Most Racist Country in Europe?
June 18, 2012
by Gavin Haynes


Ever since Panorama broke the news that Poles are all massively racist – and what were we even thinking letting them have the Euros when they should be in prison? – the British press has been rumbling and wrangling away at people about it in that way it does when it has nothing much else to talk about. What the BBC have wilfully ignored is whether any other country in Europe is actually any better.

We at VICE are more scientific than that, so we cast a quick glance around the continent for racists.

SWEDEN


If you'd like to see a bunch of Swedish fascists in action you should watch our film Teenage Riot: May Day in Eskilstuna.

The Tag
The home of enlightened progressive thought and bending-over-backwards cultural deference.

The Evidence
FACT
Sweden was the first country in the world to introduce a research centre for racial biology – in the town of Upsalla. It was there that the idea of forced sterilisation of the mentally ill, the physically disabled, the gay, or people suffering from ethnic minority-ness, first found scientific credibility. Incredibly, this tactic was approved by the government, and was still technically legal under Swedish law until fairly recently. Before 1975, if you were caught with a red hot pair of scissors in the vicinity of a gay Somali's testes, legally-speaking, there was nothing the police could do.

FACT
A recent survey showed that job-seekers in Sweden have a 50 percent higher chance of being called up for an interview if they have a Swedish-sounding name rather than an Arab-sounding one.

FACT
Earlier this year, Swedish Minister for Culture Lena Adelsohn Liljeroth decided that she should do more to promote cultural harmony for World Art Day. So she ceremonially cut open a cake. This was the cake:



That's her with the plate, by the way. Not the one lying down. Note all the people in the background going, “Go on, Lena, keep grinning, that's it, yeah, God, this pic is gonna look great on Facebook when I do a witty caption about the end of your career.”

Verdict
Swedes are a nasty bunch of CV-binning cake-baking race haters, for whom tying the tubes of anyone who doesn't fulfill their eugenicised national ideal is as natural as tying their shoelaces (though we have to admit that all that eugenics has left them extremely good looking).

Travel Advice
Avoid if you are anything up to and including a Norweigan, have one tooth a little bit twisted or suffer from occasional eczema: you will be taking a Zyklon B power-shower within minutes of landing.

Racism Rating  
5/5


POLAND



The Tag
“Stay at home, watch it on TV. Don't even risk it… because you could end up coming back in a coffin.” - Sol "Factually Accurate" Campbell

The Evidence
FACT
In mid-2011, a large group of Polish football supporters unfurled a banner proclaiming: “Death To The Hooked-Nosed Ones”, illustrated with a picture of a Jew with a large crooked nose, at a stadium in Rzesow. The game was not televised. There were no players of Jewish origin on the pitch at the time. And, given that Poland's Jewish population is vanishingly small, it is not particularly likely there were even any Jews in the stadium at all.

Which doesn't make it any better, obviously, but it does, in fact, make the Poles in question seem even more unnecessarily pathetic.

Verdict
In a country which is 98 percent ethnically Polish, Poles have had to resort to being racist against people who don't exist. They probably maintain a sort of internal fantasy football league of race-hate, acting out this pitiful shadow-boxing in the absence of genuine targets. It is likely that, when no one else is around, Polish neo-Nazis force each other to dress up as Arabs in crude tea-towel and bath-sheet costumes, then beat each other with sticks just for the release.

Travel Advice
In terms of race-hate, wet-behind-the-ears Poles have never even taken off the training-wheels. Safe for travel, so long as you are not an Invisible Imaginary Jew.  

Racism Rating  
2/5


GREAT BRITAIN


Photo by Henry Langston

The Tag
The land that gave the world concentration camps, the suppression of the Indian Mutiny, the hut tax and Roy "Chubby" Brown.  

The Evidence
FACT
In July 2008, the National Children's Bureau released a 366-page guide counselling adults on recognising racist behaviour in young children. The guide, which was called "Young Children and Racial Justice", warned that babies should also be a part of "the effort to eliminate racism". Nursery staff, it said, should be on alert for racist remarks among toddlers.

FACT
In May of this year, it was announced that the Metropolitan Police had banned the use of the term "blacklist" in all official correspondence, concerned it might be offensive to people.

Verdict
The British are suffering from a national scourge of toddler race-hate. You can't go near a British play-pen these days without hearing terms like "nappy-head" and "ethnic Albanian". Britons spent hundreds of years constantly using a deeply offensive term like "b****list", knowing full well how demeaning it was, and therefore the "language of Shakespeare" should be reclassified as "the language of Hitler".

Travel Advice
A nasty place indeed. Shouldn't be gone near with a barge-pole. If you already live there, for heaven's sake, get out now. Just watch it on TV. Don't even risk it or you could be coming back in a coffin. In fact, don't even watch it on TV, it's just too dangerous.

Racism Rating  
5/5


AUSTRIA



The Tag
Civilised, profiterole-enjoying classical music lovers and raging Nazis.  

The Evidence
FACT
Austria remains the only country to have given the world an actual certified ex-Nazi as UN Secretary General, in the form of Kurt Waldheim.



This is him doing what we all do when we're young and reckless: joining the SA. No biggie, Kurt.

FACT
Even after it had been sensationally revealed that he was a former Nazi volunteer, Austrians STILL elected Waldheim as their President. It was almost as if they all secretly knew already.

FACT
Austrians didn't just vote for the far-right politician Jorg Haider. They voted for him in droves: 27 percent in all. So alarmed was the rest of Europe with his policies that, in the year 2000, 11 countries broke off diplomatic links when he formed a coalition government. Haider was such a frothing arch-nationalist that he sometimes dressed like this:



Verdict:
If you try and flag down a cab in Austria, it will likely turn into a spontaneous curbside Nuremberg Rally. If you ask an Austrian for a cig, he will first offer you a "heil".

Travel Advice
Try to avoid the more racist regions of Austria. You will be able to identify these easily on a map, as they will be the bits that are within the borders of Austria.  

Racism Rating
4/5


SWITZERLAND



The Tag
Keep-to-themselves, sensible, moderate, gold-loving neutralists.

Evidence
FACT
In 2007, the Swiss introduced a law meaning that all members of your local community would have to vote on your citizenship application before you could win a passport. Since they did so, Muslims, Jews, Balkans, Africans and Asians have been disproportionately rejected. In 2008, a disabled man from Kosovo was rejected on the grounds that, a) he was disabled and this would cost his community money, and b) he was a Muslim. In other words, the system works well.

FACT
This was a Swiss election poster in 2007.  



The caption says: “For More Security”. It is designed to publicise a pledge to kick out all foreigners who break Swiss laws.

FACT
The SVP, the party behind the poster, is not some fringe nutjob collective who go waterskiing with Andrew Brons on Lake Geneva. It is the largest single party in Switzerland. It is, effectively, the Swiss government. Here is some more of their recent handiwork:



 
And here's another:



Clearly, reasonable men with reasonable aims.

Verdict
It's not just the Nazis' gold that the Swiss have hung onto.

Travel Advice
The only safe way for foreigners to travel in Switzerland is dressed in Leiderhosen with an alpenhorn protruding at a jaunty angle from your gob, a cuckoo clock in one hand and a Swiss Army Knife with a Muslim impaled on it in the other.
 
Racism Rating  
5/5


GERMANY



The Tag
“Really nice people” - The North Minehead Gazette

The Evidence
At the time of going to press, a comprehensive reading of the past hundred years of German history showed no documented incidents of any racial bias.

Verdict
Germans are the most placid, right-on and groovy folk on the continent. The only racism here is directed against them – so sort it out, brothers from another mother.

Travel Advice
Just let it all hang out. There's a reason it's known as "the Land of the Free".

Racism Rating
0/5

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helpee:
I really have time today so I read the post in your link. Guess what? Britain where justwise lives a descent/secured life rank far higher than Germany in terms of racism according to your second link. In fact Britain is like number 3 while Germany is no 7. So, do you still believe the credibility of your link cos according to that story...nigerians in Britain may not come back to tell the full story. In fact, I just re read the lead....it says German racism is not directed against foreigners but internally. zero racism is what your link ascribed to Germany. By the way, German embassy in Nigeria is the most courteous in Nigeria. Those guys treat u well even if you will be denied visa. American embassy makes you sick....

helpee:
I really have time today so I read the post in your link. Guess what? Britain where justwise lives a descent/secured life rank far higher than Germany in terms of racism according to your second link. In fact Britain is like number 3 while Germany is no 7. So, do you still believe the credibility of your link cos according to that story...nigerians in Britain may not come back to tell the full story. In fact, I just re read the lead....it says German racism is not directed against foreigners but internally. zero racism is what your link ascribed to Germany. By the way, German embassy in Nigeria is the most courteous in Nigeria. Those guys treat u well even if you will be denied visa. American embassy makes you sick....

justwise:
You are just a selective reader, in this link http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/01/08/8-worst-countries-black-people-travel/ the UK was not mentioned at all, in fact Germany is first in that link, so why are you misleading people?

The second link the UK was number 5 and racism in general was disused not about blacks, it included all nationalities accept British citizens, did you not read that? ,

helpee:
I copied the whole of second link and pasted it above....read it again. travel advice....if you are already in Britain, get out fast. Pls, read it again.

justwise:
And the first link? You ran out of credit to copy that as well? Leave Nigeria quick, boko haram are approaching...the world cried out with France when 17 people were killed, the same week 2000 were killed in Nigeria by boko haram but nobody cared to cover it, Goodluck Jonathan sent condolence message to French president but never cared to mention victims in his own country.

I'm find and safe here, sorry about yourself in Nigeria.

helpee:
unlike you that believes every garbage in papers, I don't. I didn't give you the advise....the link your fellow posted here gave you the advice. Why should I believe you are safe when the link says you may come back in coffin..
.so sorry I can't wish you that but that's what the link says and I still want you safe. Boko haram is thousands of kilometers away so worry about your safety first......run run run