Patchesagain:


Probably because they arent deployed for Anti-poaching duties

“Although our deployment is mainly meant for Operation Corona at the border-line, my troops are alert and fully prepared to deal with rhino poachers and other crimes such as illegal border crossing and possession of stolen goods,” said Lt Col Vilakazi.

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2011/013_2011.html

Your own source destroyed your argument!

Nope, read the full story in detail ; SANDF was specially assigned to anti-rhino poaching ops, they were transferred from operation Corona which used to be their main duty, to fight a new challenge on a new task ....

"The deployment of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) at Kruger National Park in the Mpumalanga Province is described as a step in the right direction by all stakeholders in the fight against rhino poaching in South Africa.

We deploy together with Rangers because they understand the terrain better,” Lt Col Vilakazi said, as he narrated a shooting incidence between his men and the poachers wherein one of the poachers died."

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2011/013_2011.html

SANDF if failing at home against mere Rhino thieves

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Patchesagain:
look at these peasants

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LOL....see a South African drawing field tactics to criticize Nigerian army, even posting world war II trench designs

Funny you could not design trench for SANDF troops to use in defense against Seleka rebels instead of running to the airport for French army protection and next available flight back to Pretoria

See dude, the Nigerian army at Konduga you are criticizing has used all those things you are laughing at to defeat 20 attacks from Boko Haram battalions in a few months and k.illed over 1,000 Bokos with loss of ONLY 1 Nigerian soldier !

SANDF needs your help with battlefield drawing.....so they can go back and fight Seleka rebels in Bangui

Clown

Ahhhh !!!! See what envy and inferiority complex can do all South Africans ! Their own army and air force CANNOT show us one single current video of real life war victory.....all we see are training demos and Hollywood shows !

Envy go killi dem for Soweto oooo !
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz5dhnMG6E
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Patchesagain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz5dhnMG6E

Second vice video posted

Good lord, the nigerian army is so peasant-teir its ridiculous

Random comments from the Vice YouTube video to give you some more bitter reason to grow greener bile!
Stop dying of envy ... we have done what your eternally incompetent SANDF and most Western Armies have failed to do/achieve in modern COIN warfare.

Read the comments. More coming!

MikeCZAR:
Rebels mate Rebels!

And this is what they say can stand up to the SA army?

SANDF could NOT stand up to only 1,500 Seleka rebels for just 24 hours
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Mr. Patrick **********, I hope you chew long on these!

Or else go click on the YouTube video and see how lowly your fellow South Africans are comparing your SANDF to our gallantry and annihilation of your BH friends.

We are moving into the clean up phase of these Ops.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Mr. Patrick **********, I hope you chew long on these!

Or else go click on the YouTube video and see how lowly your fellow South Africans are comparing your SANDF to our gallantry and annihilation of your BH friends.

We are moving into the clean up phase of these Ops.

These videos are now turning Nigerian army into the cynosure of ALL EYES AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD !

Showering praises on you and your colleagues OC !
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agaugust:


These videos are now turning Nigerian army into the cynosure of ALL EYES AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD !

Showering praises on you and your colleagues OC !
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The praises are for you and all Nigerians who have consistently shown support for Nation and troops! We are nothing without your fight here and elsewhere across cybershpere!

jl115:

SANDF base Sudan:

There is no war there fool

How many battled did SANDF fight in Sudan this month? How many guns and artillery fired?

It's just a simple African Union controlled peace keeping mission NOT a war of tanks, jets, artillery !

NONE !

Nigerian army finished of the battles of Sudan before SANDF crept in at night.

Hollywood army = SANDF
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EVarn:
Perhaps the trenches were a little too elevated,narrow and linear given the environment,generally,i'll admit that the trenches were a little hastily dug by less experienced personnels{perhaps CJTF men}.

That trench has kept the whole Nigerian battalion alive for 6 months till the war ended.

Boko Haram lost over 1,000 men trying to overrun those trenches, Nigeria lost only 1 soldier in those 20 battles !

Everything works perfectly in that Nigerian base, even American army will envy us, Israeli army will come beg us to teach them how we fight .

I won't worry about a South African who thinks T-72 tank is a failure because Nigeria uses it
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Patchesagain:


Vice said that those men had been holding the town "since the war began" so those positions have been there for years now. They should be extremely sophisticated by now.

The MG nest being elevated makes it a nice target for recoiless grenades and easy suppression.

Ammo is a disaster waiting to happen - a stray mortar or tracer round could set it off, and a couple tonnes of explosives going off in the middle of your base during an attack is not something you want to happen. Ideally the majority would be distrubited along hard points in the trenches (so you dont have to run off to get more in battle) and the rest would be stored in a number of heavily dug in bunkers strategically located around the base.

MikeCZAR:
A single direct mortar hit destroys the whole base as the explosion will not be channelled upwards.

Just Rebels!

Unfortunately for you, all your predictions and anlyses did not happen, the war is over, 20 attacks on that same base and Nigeria won 20 times.

SANDF lost one base to just one attack from Seleka
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andrewza:



You do know what a mortar is right? Because it don't care about terrain and they have a range of 2km for the small ones and above 10km for the big ones.

Nigerian army had artillery cover for that range up to 26 km range, play the video again.

We defeated 20 attacks on that base and killed 1,000 enemy fighters while we lost only 1.

That Nigerian base is perfect, the commandant has been promoted and medals won by those men !

Even NATO will not beat our record
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MikeCZAR:
Did you watch the video with your ears closed?

The positions were attacked several times.

A surprise mortar attack, in less than 5 minutes insurgents can throw more than 4 bombs to a position and run.

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1,000 Bokos died in the process, Nigeria lost only 1 soldier in that base.

Only a fool like you South Africans will still find something to complain about just out of envy and shame

SANDF lost their base to Seleka in just one attack, why did you not forward your 'advisory tactic's to your country's army?
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Henry120:


We consistently damaged a vile terrorist group.

Your Special forces couldn't help but flee against farmers and little boys with hoes and cutlasses.

The SANDF is beyond pathetic.

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


All evidence points to the cowardice of SANDF troops, and the vice news video provides evidence that the Nigerian military is well resourced.



A supposed South-African Special forces could not stand against petty rebels, no evidence they can stand the weight of the Nigerian military.

For us to be defeated we must have failed an objective

Which objective did we fail?

A handfull of light infantry held back pick related for 13 hours

and SANDF mechanized brigade would capture abuja in a day

andrewza:



It takes one lucky shot. Just one.

Yes Boko Haram got it's one lucky shot and killed 1 Nigerian soldier after 20 attacks on that same base.

Nigerian army got 1,000 shots on target in the hearts of 1,000 Boko fighters.....those were not lucky shots....skillful shots they were !
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Henry120:


Your FOB is poorly defended/policed. Your lone sentry man looks absolutely bewildered, lost and open to enemy sniper.

Ineptitude at it's very height.

The base has 2 things your frontline fortifications dont

1. Barbed-wire
2. sand-bagged strongpoints

That man up there is just one of many - exploiting the flat terrain to watch for major troop movements.

Henry120:


The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian company to provide specific services.

Your Special forces in the CAR were roundly defeated by untrained farmers.

If they were defeated they must have failed to meet an objective.

What objective did they fail to meet?

And that Nigerian company hired South Africans to set up your 72nd Strike Force (or whatever it is called). Confirmed by the latest Vice Episode and confirmed by the white guy flying the hind in that episode

agaugust:


Radars have rear hemisphere scan/detection if you don't know !

Okay, it's not from side again, Gripen is now behind F-7 by flying spiritually like Harry Porter witchcraft?

Last time I said you Southies were talking about attacking from behind, @Patches said nobody was talking about attacking from behind.

Now 80 km away or 120 km away, it's your private imagination in your bedroom that the distance between Nigerian frontline FOB forward air base is 80 km to 120 km away from South African forward air base. Do you know what a forward air base is in war? It's not Pretoria or Abuja airport o ! It's outside airstrip in the war zone.

So what is NAF airstrip is in one city 50 km away from SAAF airstrip ? Both aircraft radar will see each other immediately they are airborne.

Your private theory of 80 km radar detection is defeated because it is just your personal wish and NOT reality of war.

Next, if we just assume for the sake of assumption that Gripen and F-7 are 120 km apart, the Gripen radar will scan the F-7, well the F-7 will not radar scan the Gripen at that range, but a normal and basic radar warning on F-7 will alert the F-7 pilot that the enemy is seeing him on radar screen.

[s]If the Gripen wants to get beside or behind the F-7 from head on course, the Gripen needs to make a full 90 degree turn aside from course, then the F-7 pilot notices a faded radar warning and he is a trained combat pilot not a fool, he knows the Gripen has made an out-flanking maneuver, thus the F-7 pilot counter maneuvers by using the altitude advantage over the Gripen, flies above the Gripen level, also banks and turns in the opposite direction and both pilots will just miss each other finally !

If they encounter again next time, the F-7 will fly into the blind spot of the Gripen radar from a long range and use the BVR missile advantage to fire 35 km range PL-9C missile into the blind side wing of the Gripen jet and convert the Gripen from metal into ashes, scattered ashes of SAAF.....airborne cremation in action[/s]
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1. The bases had better be more than 50km apart, because the G6 has a max range of 67km. Meaning your base will be shelled into oblivion before you even have to think of Gripen.
2. What radar detection does the F-7 have?

The rest of your post is trash, not even worth responding to.

agaugust:


No law says tank crew must wear coveralls at work in their bases.

That is American soldiers working on M1A1 Abrams tank with T-shirt and pants, NO COVERALLS UNIFORM !

http://www.2ndmardiv.marines.mil/News/NewsArticleDisplay/tabid/2643/Article/514713/marine-crews-repairs-tanks.aspx

Stop posting your private ideas as if it is international law....we are not fools here !

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He is wearing his overalls with the top unzipped.

You have just confirmed my argument by showing a tanker working in his overalls.

Do you even know what overalls are?

EVarn:
a mortar team cannot bombard a target they cant see,to blow up konduga's weapon storage,a lot of accuracy and precision would be needed.fortunately,if you cant see or locate,then you cant hit.

You beat me to it bros.

I was just about to ask them if the Bokos also saw the video we are now seeing, the Southies are talking as if Boko Haram had all these videos of the armoury shown to them to guide their attacks. The Southies forgot that we are now seeing the secret inside that Konduga army base hidden before now and hidden during the battles, now publicly revealed after the war has ended.

You know a South Africa cannot think straight !
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Goodnight folks.

NA at ease!

agaugust:


Nope, read the full story in detail ; SANDF was specially assigned to anti-rhino poaching ops, they were transferred from operation Corona which used to be their main duty, to fight a new challenge on a new task ....

"The deployment of the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) at Kruger National Park in the Mpumalanga Province is described as a step in the right direction by all stakeholders in the fight against rhino poaching in South Africa.

We deploy together with Rangers because they understand the terrain better,” Lt Col Vilakazi said, as he narrated a shooting incidence between his men and the poachers wherein one of the poachers died."

http://www.af.mil.za/news/2011/013_2011.html

SANDF if failing at home against mere Rhino thieves

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From your own source:

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Grow up, this is boring.

agaugust:


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LOL....see a South African drawing field tactics to criticize Nigerian army, even posting world war II trench designs

Funny you could not design trench for SANDF troops to use in defense against Seleka rebels instead of running to the airport for French army protection and next available flight back to Pretoria

See dude, the Nigerian army at Konduga you are criticizing has used all those things you are laughing at to defeat 20 attacks from Boko Haram battalions in a few months and k.illed over 1,000 Bokos with loss of ONLY 1 Nigerian soldier !

SANDF needs your help with battlefield drawing.....so they can go back and fight Seleka rebels in Bangui

Clown

Ahhhh !!!! See what envy and inferiority complex can do all South Africans ! Their own army and air force CANNOT show us one single current video of real life war victory.....all we see are training demos and Hollywood shows !

Envy go killi dem for Soweto oooo !
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muz5dhnMG6E
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The evidence is damming

Nigeria suffered over 35 major defeats from Boko Haram

patches689:


The base has 2 things your frontline fortifications dont

1. Barbed-wire
2. sand-bagged strongpoints

That man up there is just one of many - exploiting the flat terrain to watch for major troop movements.

SANDF with African Union money built a base for 1,500 troops in a peace keeping environment.

When South African army grows up to Nigerian army's advanced experience level and builds hundreds of bases for 30,000 men spread over land as big as Scotland inside a real life war zone, come back and talk to us on Nairaland
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agaugust:


SANDF could NOT stand up to only 1,500 Seleka rebels for just 24 hours
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Was it the whole SANDF?

How many SANDF was it?

Did the SANDF meet their objectives?

Answer these 3 questions and you realize that your analogy is ridiculous.

SANDF Mechanism Infantry and a Air Assault Brigade would shatter your division in a day.

NaijaPikinGidi:
Mr. Patrick **********, I hope you chew long on these!

Or else go click on the YouTube video and see how lowly your fellow South Africans are comparing your SANDF to our gallantry and annihilation of your BH friends.

We are moving into the clean up phase of these Ops.

How are the opinions of youtube veiwers ever relevant?

patches689:


1. The bases had better be more than 50km apart, because the G6 has a max range of 67km. Meaning your base will be shelled into oblivion before you even have to think of Gripen.
2. What radar detection does the F-7 have?

The rest of your post is trash, not even worth responding to.

SANDF G-6 artillery max shell range is 39 km according to your own army sources.

Nigeria has 45 km max range rocket artillery.

The rest of your comment lacks any technical common sense and needs no reply
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agaugust:


There is no war there fool

How many battled did SANDF fight in Sudan this month? How many guns and artillery fired?

It's just a simple African Union controlled peace keeping mission NOT a war of tanks, jets, artillery !

NONE !

Nigerian army finished of the battles of Sudan before SANDF crept in at night.

Hollywood army = SANDF
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Trained, well equipped, professional and modern Army = SANDF

Poorly trained, randomly equipped, disorganized mob = Nigerian Army

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agaugust:


That trench has kept the whole Nigerian battalion alive for 6 months till the war ended.

Boko Haram lost over 1,000 men trying to overrun those trenches, Nigeria lost only 1 soldier in those 20 battles !

Everything works perfectly in that Nigerian base, even American army will envy us, Israeli army will come beg us to teach them how we fight .

I won't worry about a South African who thinks T-72 tank is a failure because Nigeria uses it
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Exaggerated combat figures which mean nothing.

T-72 is a failure regardless of who uses it - unlike you I am not obsessed with Nigeria (like you are obsessed with South Africa), that fact that you have ~12 T-72's doesnt change my opinion about it.

The fact that you think its any good is a damning indication of how little you know.

agaugust:




Unfortunately for you, all your predictions and anlyses did not happen, the war is over, 20 attacks on that same base and Nigeria won 20 times.

SANDF lost one base to just one attack from Seleka
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Boko Haram attacks continue today

How is a small detachment of men fighting with no support 3000km from home the same as an entire division being defeated inside Nigeria?

agaugust:


Yes Boko Haram got it's one lucky shot and killed 1 Nigerian soldier after 20 attacks on that same base.

Nigerian army got 1,000 shots on target in the hearts of 1,000 Boko fighters.....those were not lucky shots....skillful shots they were !
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Says who? a soldier on the frontline?

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agaugust:


You beat me to it bros.

I was just about to ask them if the Bokos also saw the video we are now seeing, the Southies are talking as if Boko Haram had all these videos of the armoury shown to them to guide their attacks. The Southies forgot that we are now seeing the secret inside that Konduga army base hidden before now and hidden during the battles, now publicly revealed after the war has ended.

You know a South Africa cannot think straight !
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I see you are struggling to grasp the concept of:

1. Lucky shots
2. How big the blast-radius of even a small mortar is.

But no, its fine, according to our Military Researcher, its ok to store ammunition outside - exposed to the elements and to enemy fire