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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 11:45am On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
Ogbeni, Ladipo can never be shut! Do you know how much the government generates from that market?

The problem can be easily resolved since the warring factions are Igbos. This is why I said it does not concern Baba Oloja.

I will also advise the Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo in Lagos to look into the matter since it has to do with igbos.

The more u push away the only panecea to this debacle, the more peace eludes this market.
Baba Oloja route is the only way to go

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Nobody: 11:45am On Apr 21, 2015
Setaje:



Was actually told about this four days ago. It could be a rumour. But we cannot discard it cus it's not the first time such issue will come up. I think 2 years ago, Fashola talked about computer village. How the original plan for that area is residential. The fact that the roads on that axis are being constructed and also leads to other link roads. Well, I just feel before the government embark on such thing, they should create another place just like they did in tejuosho. But..........

Eventually Ladipo and computer village will have to leave their present sites...it's not hard to figure out. Once the LASG is ready to move them out...they will be moved out.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Menace2Society(m): 11:45am On Apr 21, 2015
And this people are crying for Biafra fa?I dey laugh cheesy

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by MzJackBaueress(f): 11:47am On Apr 21, 2015
Demdem:
The day Baba Oloja takes possession of Ladipo, PERMANENT peace will be restored to the market
I guess there is Baba Oloja at Alaba International Market and Trade Fair that's why the markets have been peaceful. undecided

Abeg carry that your baba oloja mentally comot for road joor! angry

Where Igbos are dominated in a market,we do not need any Baba Oloja.

Period!

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Ib0t0t0deysmell: 11:47am On Apr 21, 2015
Kunle Afolayon produced an award winning block buster movie : October 1. The movie is still showing in the cinemas it hasnt been released in the market, but Alas all the useless Heebo boys have pirated the movie at the Alaba market. It is now being sold in the traffic for peanut

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 11:48am On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
Ogbeni, Ladipo can never be shut! Do you know how much the government generates from that market?

The problem can be easily resolved since the warring factions are Igbos. This is why I said it does not concern Baba Oloja.

I will also advise the Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo in Lagos to look into the matter since it has to do with igbos.
It can be shut if the problem continues.

The issue is not that of a babaloja (ignore the warriors). They should find a solution so as to resolve it. If this gets to a point where Alausa is called....it is holiday for everyone for a month

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Nobody: 11:48am On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:

A district can be changed from a trading to residential or from residential to trading or even to an industrial zone.

Would you call Awolowo road a residential zone right now? Forget what it used to be. You think the Ikeja local government is about to give themselves headache and loss of revenue because they want to change a residential zone which was changed to a trading zone back to residential because some online tribal bigots want to wave their joysticks?

That area has been converted into a trading zone and the best the government can do is instil the laws attached to trading zones

Who changes or alters a city master plan?

The truth is LASG would have moved those people out of that place a long time ago.....if not for the meaning some people will pin to it......but eventually it will go.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Nobody: 11:50am On Apr 21, 2015
Ib0t0t0deysmell:
Kunle Afolayon produced an award winning block buster movie : October 1. The movie is still showing in the cinemas it hasnt been released in the markey, but Alas all the useless Heebo boys have pirated the movie at the Alaba market. It is now being sold in the traffic for peanut

The security forces are picking them up.......they've all disappeared as at yesterday from the roads.

It was really sad seeing those boys selling those pirated CDs...that is the sweat of a man gone down the drain by the greed of some people.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by MzJackBaueress(f): 11:51am On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:

It can be shut if the problem continues.

The issue is not that of a babaloja (ignore the warriors). They should find a solution so as to resolve it. If this gets to a point where Alausa is called....it is holiday for everyone for a month
even if Ladipo market has to be shut,it will not be for the problems lingering.

For now,the market remains in Mushin LG unless the government wants to move it to a more conducive environment.
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 11:52am On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
I guess there is Baba Oloja at Alaba International Market and Trade Fair that's why the markets have been peaceful. undecided

Abeg carry that your baba oloja mentally comot for road joor! angry

Where Igbos are dominated in a market,we do not need any Baba Oloja.

Period!
Most of these markets have a babaloja. But the traders also have representatives who meet the babaloja so he is hardly seen.

They meet regular to discuss issues mostly cos the traders will need someone on the traditional council looking out for them and the Oba/Baale will want one of his own(who understands the culture) to be his mouth piece there.

What Demdem is calling for is a Babaloja to enforce discipline which no one has time for.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 11:52am On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
I guess there is Baba Oloja at Alaba International Market and Trade Fair that's why the markets have been peaceful. undecided

Abeg carry that your baba oloja mentally comot for road joor! angry

Where Igbos are dominated in a market,we do not need any Baba Oloja.

Period!

We have more non Ibos in these markets u mentioned than Ladipo IMO. Besides these ibos seems to be more sensible the ones in Ladipo. These ones are troublemakers and have proven not to be able to conduct themselves in a civilised manner and that explains the use of Baba Oloja to bring sense back.
The igbos are dominated in a market on Yoruba Land. Land owners can chose to give u a baba oloja if they deemed fit especially if u are troublesome, afterall u are on their land.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 11:55am On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
even if Ladipo market has to be shut,it will not be for the problems lingering.

For now,the market remains in Mushin LG unless the government wants to move it to a more conducive environment.
Wait ooo. You are getting this wrong.

When the report says shut, they don't mean permanent closure oooo. They mean close the market until the problem is completely resolved to stop the loss of lives and property.

Just like when Mile 12 and Ketu were shut due to sanitary issues and they were opened when the issues were addressed

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Ib0t0t0deysmell: 11:56am On Apr 21, 2015
ilugunboy:


The security forces are picking them up.......they've all disappeared as at yesterday from the roads.
Its very painful. That guy invested a lot of money, resources, time, intellect into the making of that film just for one useless Shukudi to pirate the movie. The security forces shouldnt only arrest their 'foot soldier's' they could go inside Alaba market itself and dismantle their piracy network totally

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 11:57am On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:

Most of these markets have a babaloja. But the traders also have representatives who meet the babaloja so he is hardly seen.

I have no doubt i my mind that the indisclipline constantly being seen in Ladipo is due to the lack of Baba Oloja. This anomaly must be speedily corrected.

They meet regular to discuss issues mostly cos the traders will need someone on the traditional council looking out for them and the Oba/Baale will want one of his own(who understands the culture) to be his mouth piece there.

Baba Oloja is useful afterall and not neccessarily about toll collection. u are undermining the powers of Baba olojas. That is a grave mistake

What Demdem is calling for is a Babaloja to enforce discipline which no one has time for.

Baba Oloja with his influence and being a local person can achieve this successfully.


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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Setaje(f): 11:58am On Apr 21, 2015
ilugunboy:


Eventually Ladipo and computer village will have to leave their present sites...it's not hard to figure out. Once the LASG is ready to move them out...they will be moved out.


One thing I have noticed about Nigeria and lagos in particular is that we do not understand that there is town planning. Government owned land earmarked for schools and hospitals. Etc. Yet we complain of government not doing our roads etc when some people built houses untop of drainage and close to canals.... every area in lagos has a plan. Some even build houses and turn a street into a close. If omo onile is selling to you, why won't u go and make enquires from lagos state town planning. The moment government wake up to their responsibility, a lot of things will go and it will affect people. As for Ladipo, they might not necessarily move them, they can find a large expanse of land in ilupeju or turn an unused factory into an ultra modern market for spare parts. To me it makes more sense than totally moving them. But that computer village is very tricky. The only solution I see there is for it to be removed.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 11:58am On Apr 21, 2015
ilugunboy:


Who changes or alters a city master plan?

The truth is LASG would have moved those people out of that place a long time ago.....if not for the meaning some people will pin to it......but eventually it will go.
In the long run, yes computer village will be relocated but that is not on ground for now. A new complex built and mortgaging is shops and stalls like Tejuoshi but not now

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by MzJackBaueress(f): 12:00pm On Apr 21, 2015
Demdem:


Land owners can chose to give u a baba oloja if they deemed fit, afterall u are on their land.[/b]
That's a blatant lie! As long as the markets are dominated by Igbos,a baba oloja is not needed.
What is it the baba oloja will do that other people cannot do?

Market like Alaba Int'l is under the management of Ojo local government. Why then do they need a baba oloja? To do what?
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Arysexy(m): 12:02pm On Apr 21, 2015
For d fact that d LG boss mentioned both of d warrying groups are igbos show they have hand in it. This time using an igbo to fight igbo so as to see excuse to close d market

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 12:02pm On Apr 21, 2015
Setaje:



One thing I have noticed about Nigeria and lagos in particular is that we do not understand that there is town planning. Government owned land earmarked for schools and hospitals. Etc. Yet we complain of government not doing our roads etc when some people built houses untop of drainage and close to canals.... every area in lagos has a plan. Some even build houses and turn a street into a close. If omo onile is selling to you, why won't u go and make enquires from lagos state town planning. The moment government wake up to their responsibility, a lot of things will go and it will affect people. As for Ladipo, they might not necessarily move them, they can find a large expanse of land in ilupeju or turn an unused factory into an ultra modern market for spare parts. To me it makes more sense than totally moving them. But that computer village is very tricky. The only solution I see there is for it to be removed.
Yes a lot of these markets will be moved eventually. But I doubt it will all be done in 4 years. The process of relocating a market is too tedious. Even tejusho still has issues

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by MzJackBaueress(f): 12:02pm On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:

Wait ooo. You are getting this wrong.

When the report says shut, they don't mean permanent closure oooo. They mean close the market until the problem is completely resolved to stop the loss of lives and property.

Just like when Mile 12 and Ketu were shut due to sanitary issues and they were opened when the issues were addressed
I am referring to superstar1 who is insisting that the market should be shut. I know he means the market should be shut permanently which can never happen.
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Nobody: 12:03pm On Apr 21, 2015
Setaje:



One thing I have noticed about Nigeria and lagos in particular is that we do not understand that there is town planning. Government owned land earmarked for schools and hospitals. Etc. Yet we complain of government not doing our roads etc when some people built houses untop of drainage and close to canals.... every area in lagos has a plan. Some even build houses and turn a street into a close. If omo onile is selling to you, why won't u go and make enquires from lagos state town planning. The moment government wake up to their responsibility, a lot of things will go and it will affect people. As for Ladipo, they might not necessarily move them, they can find a large expanse of land in ilupeju or turn an unused factory into an ultra modern market for spare parts. To me it makes more sense than totally moving them. But that computer village is very tricky. The only solution I see there is for it to be removed.

You are very correct.....but the part in bold is contradictory..when you suggest that they should find a large expanse of land somewhere else..you are also implying they move them out of their present at Ladipo, Papa Ajao and some parts of Palm Avenue....

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 12:04pm On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
That's a blatant lie! As long as the markets are dominated by Igbos,a baba oloja is not needed.

Berem, ur market is on their land. If indisclipline is a cause of concern, Babaloja will be given and u either conform or eject ursef.


What is it the baba oloja will do that other people cannot do?

A lot. Chief among which is he is a local who understands the customs and traditions of the local community where that market is situated.


Market like Alaba Int'l is under the management of Ojo local government. Why then do they need a baba oloja? To do what?

That u dont see them doesnt mean they dont exist. Anyway, this has been answered up there.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 12:05pm On Apr 21, 2015
Arysexy:
For d fact that d LG boss mentioned both of d warrying groups are igbos show they have hand in it. This time using an igbo to fight igbo so as to see excuse to close d market

in otherwords, these ibos are foolish to have allowed themselves to be used by yorubas to kill themselves right?

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Mynd44: 12:07pm On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
That's a blatant lie! As long as the markets are dominated by Igbos,a baba oloja is not needed.
What is it the baba oloja will do that other people cannot do?

Market like Alaba Int'l is under the management of Ojo local government. Why then do they need a baba oloja? To do what?
Alaba might have a babaloja but not one who is actively involved in the day to day running. Just comes around meets the leaders and is not even known.

The babaloja will probably be a titled chief in the area and his duty will be to report the activities and needs to the traditional ruler there.

The market themselves have a union which disciplines, in charge of sanitary issues etc.

Most markets in this part of the world have one but they might be active or not active. Active here means whether they are seen or not

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by superstar1(m): 12:07pm On Apr 21, 2015
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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by superstar1(m): 12:08pm On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
Ogbeni, Ladipo can never be shut! Do you know how much the government generates from that market?

The problem can be easily resolved since the warring factions are Igbos. This is why I said it does not concern Baba Oloja.

I will also advise the Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo in Lagos to look into the matter since it has to do with igbos.

Really?

Just wait and see. They should just keep embracing violence.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by buoye1(m): 12:09pm On Apr 21, 2015
fharmah:
awwwww buh why
bros why didn't you read before typing now
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by MzJackBaueress(f): 12:10pm On Apr 21, 2015
superstar1:


Really?

Just wait and see.
Your chest beating ends on nairaland. You no fit do anything bros.

Oya go and bath cold water jare! grin grin

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Bants(m): 12:10pm On Apr 21, 2015
Is there a lagoon around there....is a joke oh but oh well i'm expecting a bad lash from the sensitive ones
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by superstar1(m): 12:11pm On Apr 21, 2015
MzJackBaueress:
Your chest beating ends on nairaland. You no fit do anything bros.

Oya go and bath cold water jare! grin grin

Lol. O serious.

On a more serious note, if they don't stop their violence, it will be shut.
Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by talented143(m): 12:11pm On Apr 21, 2015
Demdem:


Naughty Ibos causing problem in yoruba land.
The only solution is to impose baba oloja on them to make them conform.

Don't be blinded by hate..
This is about 2 market unions.
Don't be in Mali and discuss issues of Brazil.

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Re: Crisis: Lagos Threatens To Shut Ladipo Market. by Demdem(m): 12:11pm On Apr 21, 2015
Mynd44:



All market in this part of the world have one but they might be active or not active. Active here means whether they are seen or not

The one needed in Ladipo is a very brutal baba Oloja capable of curtailing the excesses of these trouble makers. This one must be seen and feared unless he will be trampled upon. An "Adedibu" like babaoloja is best suited for Ladipo.

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