bushdoc9919:


I like reading manga a lot...and I came across one manga where one of the characters....a rather well endowed woman, asked (in a painful voice)...Why doesn't anyone look at me in the eyes.?

Kind of enough reason why lusting after women isn't good.

A woman is not just a pretty thing. She is....a person. Lust takes that away from her.

(As an example of how lust can destroy...go read Madame Bovary. I did...and rather than feel titilated...I felt drained at the end of the book. Very very miserable).

Now why did Jesus say looking after women lustfully is bad.?

(And for the record....I LIKE WOMEN! )

Because Jesus wants us to look at women as a whole...not as a means of how they would satisfy us. He wants us to also learn self control.Because.....dancing on the edge of a high mountain increases our risk of dying when we fall off. Jesus....being God...sees women differently. He wants us men to see women the way He sees them...as valued creations of the Father. Not as our servants.

And that thing has benefits. Now...you are going to get married. Are you going to continue looking at other women? Would you like it if yer wife checked out the nice young handsome studs around? Occasional indulgences eh? (All is fair in love and war ha ha?).

Jesus wants you to learn to think about others. Not about yourself all the time. You are not a god. You are a human. Simples.

One man's meat is another man's poison. To delude yourself is to get on your knees and ask for forgiveness every time reality check mates religious delusion.

This is where you and jesus fall short in the name of "lust" a rather vague teachings., how will you marry a wife if you did not see her as a wife and mother of your children " do I say you've sinned because if you see her as a mother of your children you've actually accepted the fact that you will service her in bed or on the kitchen table to get her pregnant.

In my humble opinion, only men who feel inadequate will get jealous or let insecurity take over their partnership with their spouse. That's where trust plays a big role in relationships. When I see women with lovely attires that I like, I approach them and ask where they bought it from. Then I go buy it for my wife because I will like to see it on her. Guess what,? these women are beautiful too, and I looked to appreciate their beauty. I did not think of taking off their panties.

It's only religious delusion that will make people delude themselves that they don't see beautiful men and women as they go about their business.

nonxo007:
If it's not a sin then why do you hide when doing it Or when confronted with the question if you do it, you deny

Clearly you still live with your parents. If you live in your own flat, would you hide and do it. Heck, while living with your parents did they leave the door open when they chose to have sex, i bet they closed the door. Does that make what they were doing bad..!?

BOWOTO:


People have no fear of God.

Na only get "God "....which god do you speak of..?

nutarious:
U think this guy started in a day? Nope, it built up and he dosnt have an answer to it. So in reality it makes him inferior.

Such is Masturbation, medicine don't have answer for it if u got addicted then how do u liberate urself. Self control.


Shalom

The height of desperation....

Now comparing masturbation with beastiality..

I guess when you hit puberty your first thought was how to fuvk a monkey.. Stop comparing apples to mangos..

traware:
This is one of my major grouses with theists especially the Nigerian ones.You guys like lying a lot!!!Make your point and leave.Don't come here and post lies and believe everyone here are just as foolish as you are.That young man in the photo was forced to penetrate that goat by theists I presume(You see why many call you guys 'Abrahamic perverts'?) because he tried to steal it and what is this trash you claimed about only humans masturbating?Other primates including gorillas,chimpanzees and bonobos also masturbate so shut it.By the way,evolutionarily,human male masturbation serves the purpose of getting rid of 'old' sperm when a man hasn't had sex for a while.So, that makes it a very normal human behaviour

What...! You don't mean it. For stealing a goat he was forced to do this with the animal.. Thanks for exposing these lying religious criminals. Twisting realities to promote their delusion..

plaetton:


Hhhmmm.
Good argument.
I almost fell for it.
Thank god I didn't.

Me thinks there should be a fair balance between serving others and service of self.

Let's see who agrees with me.

Seconded, life is all about balance.Man know thy self.

A man who fails to apply that becomes a mugu. Asked, the multitude of minions who give their rent money to church as a self less challenge/obedience to their god for blessings" but have no problem quarrelling with their landlord over non payment of rent.

BALANCE you don't give what you don't have..! How can you love someone else if you don't love your self first.

plaetton:


What about women who profess an intimate love for Jesus, and often fall into an ecstatic trance while praying and calling the name of Jesus.?
No lusts involved, or is holy lust an exception?

Let me use this opportunity to ask whether anyone else sees the striking parallels between Christian prayers and the act of self-service?
Seriously.

Is prayer not a form of self-service?
Same mindset is involved.

In both cases, in privacy, a person seeks deep intimate mingling with an imaginary, adored heavenly body, be it Jesus, God, Angel Gabriel, Nkiru Sylvanus , Genevieve Nnaji or Rihanna.

In both cases, soft and loud praises are said. It often starts slowly at first, and then the tempo gradually increases.
In both cases, fists are clenched, feet may stamped, superlative words are yelled, undying love and loyalty are professed.

And , of course, in both cases, the imagined intimate encounter reaches a climax when the practioner yells out " Hallelujah ",
then sighs a deep breath, wipes the face with handkerchief, and then goes about the daily business.

Can anyone spot the difference?

Lmao..!!! That is serious bedmatics equations you just described right there..!! And this guys have no self control. They do it many times a day. And sometimes ask strangers to indulge...and ask that the holy ghost release his anointing inside them..... Na so Mary take carry belle ohhh..

All this self servicers disguised as selfless servicers na wa for una ooo!

frank317:


Ya... Ur Jesus stayed 33 years without looking at any woman... And you want to be like a man who didn't have erreection dirbthe whole 33 years of his life? No wonder there are so many churches... Sex starved men are always confused.

Oh boy ehh... Na true talk you talk so. For 33 yrs dem wan say the guy no wake up with morning wood, abi the I wguy get medical problems. Let me give him a clean bill of health, i wonder what he did with it...let me guess, he probably cast the demon out of it by rubbing it gently While thinking of his favorite pal lucifer...

GooseBaba:


Oh boy ehh... Na true talk you talk so. For 33 yrs dem wan say the guy no wake up with morning wood, abi the I wguy get medical problems. Let me give him a clean bill of health, i wonder what he did with it...let me guess, he probably cast the demon out of it by rubbing it gently While thinking of his favorite pal lucifer...

Imagine , someone who never had errectionnn for the whole of his life advising them not to look at a woman. What else is he supposed to tell them?

Will a homosexual advise anyone to look at a woman?

frank317:


Oga... Why is self service bad to u? What has it got to do with morality? By is sexual thought a bad thing? Pls kindly tell me why u think self service is bad. Why do You as a human think it is bad?

Mat 5:28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
QUESTION, Can you as a man or woman successfully masturbate without engaging in LUST which is sin before God? Be honest with yourself. God bless you.

GooseBaba:


Which yeye lord of heaven, where is your heaven located at!? In your imagination. Stop making nonsense claims for a character in a book. Meanwhile, OPAROME ODIA LALA" if you know what this means. Guy your life don bend..

I'm just here to give you the message,i am not here to exchange words.

Gracebegatme:
I'm just here to give you the message,i am not here to exchange words.

Message that was transmitted to you by you... Your convictions are yours, therefore stop being a nuisance with your beliefs..

plaetton:


So, you have managed to convince yourself that it atheists that perform self-service.
Are you sure about that?

Very baseless! Your query is pointless!! What are you scared of bro Get a God and thank him for giving you life before I can manage to reply you. As if he is not also convinced!.. With my God, I get pardoned for wrong doings and going against the sight of God. Now how do you atheist get pardoned How can masturbation be a right attribute, An abuse to self! An abuse to any Deity !!! Judge that Mr...

Eragablessen:
Very baseless! Your query is pointless!! What are you scared of bro Get a God and thank him for giving you life before I can manage to reply you. As if he is not also convinced!.. With my God, I get pardoned for wrong doings and going against the sight of God. Now how do you atheist get pardoned How can masturbation be a right attribute, An abuse to self! An abuse to any Deity !!! Judge that Mr...

LMAO...!!! You get pardon by who.. '!!? This is too funny.. After committing your sin, you get on your knees and ask for forgiveness. And when you rise you've been pardon.. The lies people tell themselves... Who else witness the pardon...

GooseBaba:


LMAO...!!! You get pardon by who.. '!!? This is too funny.. After committing your sin, you get on your knees and ask for forgiveness. And when you rise you've been pardon.. The lies people tell themselves... Who else witness the pardon...

Has any one ever told you how boring you sound? I get pardoned from my parents, they get theirs from their parents and etc. But in every created being their is a supreme God which me and you have been carved to look like Him. How can you twist the truth and blaspheme against religious beliefs You're a kinda bigot though. LoL. Just know that their is a force greater than your imaginations and stop applying logic to satisfy your insatiables.

Eragablessen:
Has any one ever told you how boring you sound? I get pardoned from my parents, they get theirs from their parents and etc. But in every created being their is a supreme God which me and you have been carved to look like Him. How can you twist the truth and blaspheme against religious beliefs You're a kinda bigot though. LoL. Just know that their is a force greater than your imaginations and stop applying logic to satisfy your insatiables.

Pls reread ur post and see how meaningless it is... Ur imaginery god is so real to u... If there is a force greater than his imagination of what benefit is this knowledge to him. U think everybody will believe in ur imagination? U even get mouth to talk

GooseBaba:


Point of correction.. Jesus died for HIS sins. Go read that story again and tell me who layed false claims before he was beaten to stupor And finished with 3 nails.

It appears that you've left your brain on the floor.. "try your god " so it appears that you know your god is one of many. The only thing your god has to offer is delusion nothing more!!

Lool i dont expect you to understand the bible, it takes someone with a healthy relationship with the holy spirit to get deep revelations about life. God is merciful, hel forgive you.

frank317:


Pls reread ur post and see how meaningless it is... Ur imaginery god is so real to u... If there is a force greater than his imagination of what benefit is this knowledge to him. U think everybody will believe in ur imagination? U even get mouth to talk

I know. My point may sound meaningless to any deaf ear. But fathom and digest the post above mine. I believe you already know that when you die, your soul sublimes to oblivion But frankly speaking, you seem more of a comedian to me. Lol..

Eragablessen:
I know. My point may sound meaningless to any deaf ear. But fathom and digest the post above mine. I believe you already know that when you die, your soul sublimes to oblivion But frankly speaking, you seem more of a comedian to me. Lol..

It doesn't just sound meaningless, it is meaningless. Both of us will die one day and whatever will happen after that, we don't know. You telling urself lies like u have died before is nothing but delusion. I am glad I make u laugh but ur post makes me wonder where you dropped ur brain.

Godblessamaechi:

Mat 5:28 "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
QUESTION, Can you as a man or woman successfully masturbate without engaging in LUST which is sin before God? Be honest with yourself. God bless you.

This is where Jesus erred, if at all he said the above.
It also puts his godhood into question.

Every elementary 6 pupil knows that sex, sexual attraction and sexual urges are controlled by hormones, a wholely autonomous system, independent of thought and intention.
These hormones really kick in and take control from around ages of 10 to 13.
This is nature.
This is also something that Jesus himself, presumed co-god and assistant designer and creator , should have been well aware of.

To advise humans to wage a lifelong war against their own hormonal functionings, their nature, a nature that he and his father bestowed on same humans, is obviously schizophrenic.

Jesus, obviously had no knowledge of biology and the dynamics of sexual attraction.

This is another proof that Jesus as son of god, does not add up.

.

plaetton:


This is where Jesus erred, if at all he said the above.
It also puts his godhood into question.

Every elementary 6 pupil knows that sex, sexual attraction and sexual urges are controlled by hormones, a wholely autonomous system, independent of thought and intention.
These hormones really kick in and take control from around ages of 10 to 13.
This is nature.
This is also something that Jesus himself, presumed co-god and assistant designer and creator , should have been well aware of.

To advise humans to wage a lifelong war against their own hormonal functionings, their nature, a nature that he and his father bestowed on same humans, is obviously schizophrenic.

Jesus, obviously had no knowledge of biology and the dynamics of sexual attraction.

This is another proof that Jesus as son of god, does not add up.

Well, I think since Jeses never had an errecction in his whole life... He is/was not capable of any knowledge of sexual attraction and so should be in no position to tell normal people not to look at women.

Eragablessen:
Very baseless! Your query is pointless!! What are you scared of bro Get a God and thank him for giving you life before I can manage to reply you. As if he is not also convinced!.. With my God, I get pardoned for wrong doings and going against the sight of God. Now how do you atheist get pardoned How can masturbation be a right attribute, An abuse to self! An abuse to any Deity !!! Judge that Mr...

Wow!
I am impressed.

Well said, and
Congratulations.
Your skydaddy wipes off your sins everyday.

Your deluded faith grants you a Get-Out-Of-Jail Card to absolve you of all moral and ethical responsibilities.
Nooooo wonder.

We envy you.

BOWOTO:


Lool i dont expect you to understand the bible, it takes someone with a healthy relationship with the holy spirit to get deep revelations about life. God is merciful, hel forgive you.

Actually, it takes someone with an advanced delusion to have a "relationship " with a spirit. What is holy in spirit. What is holy in ghost.. Dey there dey decieve yourself with deep delusion.

Eragablessen:
Has any one ever told you how boring you sound? I get pardoned from my parents, they get theirs from their parents and etc. But in every created being their is a supreme God which me and you have been carved to look like Him. How can you twist the truth and blaspheme against religious beliefs You're a kinda bigot though. LoL. Just know that their is a force greater than your imaginations and stop applying logic to satisfy your insatiables.

You used logic for a tiny moment, it brought a smile to my face. The concept of lineage, bravo '!! But then you fell off with the "carved to look like Him "..smh let's apply logic again you were "born" your parents, grand parents, great grandparents born, this we do know. But carved...? Common son!!!!!

Meanwhile, the stench of your hypocrisy ... Could you kindly point out my bigotry. I agree there is a force greater than my imagination, however, it's with logic, understanding and knowing that a sane person use to decipher the forces. It's with knowledge that one understands the gravity of uncertainties not beliefs In fairytales.

Since you're allergic to logic, let me apply one for you. It's with logic that borne your religious beliefs. The logic of empowering some "jews " from the imagination of a human being, Not some supreme being inspired rubbish..

What about women who profess an intimate love for Jesus, and often fall into an ecstatic trance while praying and calling the name of Jesus.?
No lusts involved, or is holy lust an exception?

It depends on your understanding of the words 'intimate' and 'ecstatic,' and your overall assessment and perception in relation to the act of praying and self-service.

Prayer is an act of speaking to God privately or in a religious ceremony, expressing love, thanks or in order to ask for something, and BY FAITH, you believe it is done or would be done.
The KEY DIFFERENCE here is FAITH; that is believing that God, whom you dont see, is hearing you and would answer you. That is the intimacy, not the other way round.

Intimacy with God is based on faith and complete repentance. When you draw near to God by repenting, accepting Him and living his rules, He will then draw near to you; James 4 vs 8. And then His spirit will start to bear witness with your spirit (the foundation of the intimacy) that you are of God;Romans 8vs16.

And once this intimacy is in place,
the power of God is bound to come down anytime upon such a person or people like the women you refered to above, because their mind at that point in time is now right with God, and they are praying in the Spirit- Ephesians 6vs18. Then the sensation takes place because, God dwells in the worship of His people - Matt 18 vs 20. And He is a Holy God.

Thus, there is no lust or sexual connection whatever!

Praying is not, and can never be a form of self-servicing!

For God is holy, and can not lie, fornicate nor sin!

The process of singing, clapping, dancing or praying, is known as ''worship.'' and you can only worship God when you are in truth and in spirit, John 4vs24,

(not like in self-servicing where the driving force is lust,)

and when such that are called the children of God by adoption now renders worship, their worship is pure.

(but self-service is never pure because, you may visualize yourself making love perhaps, to another man's wife or so. Such an adulterous and fornicating act can never be pure. Is of the devil.)

It is never of same mindsets!

A man goes on a prayer time for the purpose of finding spiritual solutions to many problems confronting him, and which can only be solve through spiritual means. And deep down in his MIND BY FAITH, he knew that God will surely answer him.

But the self servicing idiot, for example upon spoting a ''skirt passing by,'' quikly rush inside to his sanctuary, where he root out his ''generational machine,'' and proceed to torturing the poor thing.
There is no real mindset at all! What is actually taking place here is self-inflicted torture.

A faithful prayerman does not FANTASIZE, because he has FAITH that the God he is seeking is Real, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

On the other hand, a self-servicing man dreams of other people's wives he can never go near, celebrities he can only see on tv, and so on.. While he continue to torture him self in hopelessness.

But the prayerful man is always hopful, even when the odds seem otherwise. And as he continue in faith and patience.. gboom! That which he has been waiting on for long, here comes, gliding through the door, in the home, at the office, in school, in the family, even in the lives of others (intercessory prayers,) and so on..
Then he rises, goes to church and glorify God in the midst of the congregation of the saints. He pays his vow, ifany, and boom! They all rejoice wiht him or her.

For at the end of the day, he or she had something to show for his or her FAITHFULNESS!

None of these your self-service man have. Rather, the only god that never fails to answer him whenever his guardian demon activates him, is HIS HORMONES which can't stop to reel out the FLUIDS/ORGANSM, because it too is subject to the DEMONIC TORTURE.

On these note, there are no PARALELS AT ALL!

And no one should compare God's holy mode of worship with the Lusts of our rotten flesh.

For our God is a Consuming Fire!

Hebrews 12 vs 29.
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BOWOTO:


Lool i dont expect you to understand the bible, it takes someone with a healthy relationship with the holy spirit to get deep revelations about life. God is merciful, hel forgive you.

Another funny but meaningless statement.

One has first form a relationship with an imaginary fairy before one gets to understand the ways of the fairy.

Appleyard:


It depends on your understanding of the words 'intimate' and 'ecstatic,' and your overall assessment and perception in relation to the act of praying and self-service.

Prayer is an act of speaking to God privately or in a religious ceremony, expressing love, thanks or in order to ask for something, and BY FAITH, you believe it is done or would be done.
The KEY DIFFERENCE here is FAITH; that is believing that God, whom you dont see, is hearing you and would answer you. That is the intimacy, not the other way round.

Intimacy with God is based on faith and complete repentance. When you draw near to God by repenting, accepting Him and living his rules, He will then draw near to you; James 4 vs 8. And then His spirit will start to bear witness with your spirit (the foundation of the intimacy) that you are of God;Romans 8vs16.

And once this intimacy is in place,
the power of God is bound to come down anytime upon such a person or people like the women you refered to above, because their mind at that point in time is now right with God, and they are praying in the Spirit- Ephesians 6vs18. Then the sensation takes place because, God dwells in the worship of His people - Matt 18 vs 20. And He is a Holy God.

Thus, there is no lust or sexual connection whatever!

Praying is not, and can never be a form of self-servicing!

For God is holy, and can not lie, fornicate nor sin!

The process of singing, clapping, dancing or praying, is known as ''worship.'' and you can only worship God when you are in truth and in spirit, John 4vs24,

(not like in self-servicing where the driving force is lust,)

and when such that are called the children of God by adoption now renders worship, their worship is pure.

(but self-service is never pure because, you may visualize yourself making love perhaps, to another man's wife or so. Such an adulterous and fornicating act can never be pure. Is of the devil.)

It is never of same mindsets!

A man goes on a prayer time for the purpose of finding spiritual solutions to many problems confronting him, and which can only be solve through spiritual means. And deep down in his MIND BY FAITH, he knew that God will surely answer him.

But the self servicing idiot, for example upon spoting a ''skirt passing by,'' quikly rush inside to his sanctuary, where he root out his ''generational machine,'' and proceed to torturing the poor thing.
There is no real mindset at all! What is actually taking place here is self-inflicted torture.

A faithful prayerman does not FANTASIZE, because he has FAITH that the God he is seeking is Real, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

On the other hand, a self-servicing man dreams of other people's wives he can never go near, celebrities he can only see on tv, and so on.. While he continue to torture him self in hopelessness.

But the prayerful man is always hopful, even when the odds seem otherwise. And as he continue in faith and patience.. gboom! That which he has been waiting on for long, here comes, gliding through the door, in the home, at the office, in school, in the family, even in the lives of others (intercessory prayers,) and so on..
Then he rises, goes to church and glorify God in the midst of the congregation of the saints. He pays his vow, ifany, and boom! They all rejoice wiht him or her.

For at the end of the day, he or she had something to show for his or her FAITHFULNESS!

None of these your self-service man have. Rather, the only god that never fails to answer him whenever his guardian demon activates him, is HIS HORMONES which can't stop to reel out the FLUIDS/ORGANSM, because it too is subject to the DEMONIC TORTURE.

On these note, there are no PARALELS AT ALL!

And no one should compare God's holy mode of worship with the Lusts of our rotten flesh.

For our God is a Consuming Fire!

Hebrews 12 vs 29.

Is prayer not a form of self-service?
Same mindset is involved.

In both cases, in privacy, a person seeks deep intimate mingling with an imaginary, adored heavenly body, be it Jesus, God, Angel Gabriel, Nkiru Sylvanus , Genevieve Nnaji or Rihanna.

In both cases, soft and loud praises are said. It often starts slowly at first, and then the tempo gradually increases.
In both cases, fists are clenched, feet may stamped, superlative words are yelled, undying love and loyalty are professed.

And , of course, in both cases, the imagined intimate encounter reaches a climax when the practioner yells out " Hallelujah ",
then sighs a deep breath, wipes the face with handkerchief, and then goes about the daily business.

Can anyone spot the difference?

Listen buddy, everything you have said here about your invisible skydaddy also applies to my invisible sky mistress/goddess, Nkiru Silvanus, including the consuming fire part.

plaetton:


Listen buddy, everything you have said here about your invisible skydaddy also applies to my invisible sky mistress/goddess, Nkiru Silvanus, including the consuming fire part.

Alright sir!
If you feel so.

GooseBaba:


Actually, it takes someone with an advanced delusion to have a "relationship " with a spirit. What is holy in spirit. What is holy in ghost.. Dey there dey decieve yourself with deep delusion.

Okay so tell me, what do you believe in?

Appleyard:

Alright sir! If you feel so.

All we can do is to pray for these people.

BOWOTO:

All we can do is to pray for these people.

All we can do is hope u start using your brain.