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Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Nobody: 10:30am On May 31, 2015 |
Ritchiee:lol... I didnt quote u, u saw my post and looked at ur attributes and behavior and branded urself a mumu... is it my fault? As for ur post, I don't need to read it, u re beneath me, go and argue with ur fellow mumus. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Ritchiee: 10:57am On May 31, 2015 |
lygn19:EHYA...are you so pained?Was thinking maybe you could recognise PROF AKPAN EKPO as a mumu too...but alas...sure, I am not in your league...I would not want to be caught in the same boat with KING MUMU THE FIRST...now shoo off your mumuyal highness... |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by scholes0(m): 7:34pm On May 31, 2015 |
SilverSurfer: But that is not entirely true sir.... Even though, prior to colonialization most Igbos lived in little ibdependent steads isolated from one another and dotted all over the land, they still had some history of clashes and attempt at domination with some of their eastern neighbours. Now, imagine what would have been the case, if they were an empire building people with a civilization of note.. 3 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by SilverSurfer: 4:41pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
scholes0:Sir, if you don't mind, can you list 1 of such clashes. 1 Like |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by scholes0(m): 4:51pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
SilverSurfer: The history of Arochukwu, An Original Ibibio homeland. The Ibibios arrived in Arochukwu from the Benue valley and founded early states like Obong Okon Ita and Ibom. After many years, Igbo immigrants came along from further North/West, and pressed into the Ibibio occupied territory and founded several states, which led to wars between the Aro subgroup of the Ibos and their Ibibio hosts. A stalemate occured, after which the Aros sought more reinforcement from their igbo brethren further west, which eventually led to the capture of the area. The Ibibio natives were acculturated or expelled. Till today, the Ibibio elements of Arochukwu and environs is still very visible, but the culture is now Igbo dominated. Go and read up on the Aro-Ibibio wars. Just this one example, has already refuted your entire claim that Igbos were living with their Eastern neighbors in one big blissful neighborhood devoid of conflict and subjugation of entire cultures. You can never cook up lies and fables for enlightened people. 4 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by PabloAfricanus(m): 5:55pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
scholes0:Interesting. scholes0: No it has not...you are going to need more instances of inter-ethnic warfare for you to even begin to call it a hypothesis. Aro-Ibibio wars going by your citations so far is just an isolated instance. Care to list more instances of Igbo vs neighbours wars? I'm actually interested in the history and will be obliged. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by scholes0(m): 6:44pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus: This is beginning to bear strong synonymity with that classic case, where the wife always asks her husband: "what have you ever done for me?" The husband cites one instance of when he has actually done something for her, and then, she dismisses that instance like it actually didnt happen, and then retorts: okay okay.. erm, apart from that one nko? which other things have you done? The husband cites another instance, and she again dismisses it, and asks again, "okay okay, apart from the two previous times, which other time have you done anything for me? " And the cycle continues like that .... And having said that, I will cite you another case. Do you know that various groups in Ebonyi state, especially the eastern areas, who are considered Igbo today, were riginally non-Igbo? I mean the Abakeleke-Obubra-Afikpo-Ugep axis. Afikpo axis's original inhabitants were non-Igbo speaking groups such as the Egu and Ebiri, which are related to the modern day peoples of Northern cross river, such as the Yakurr and Bekwarra and other Benue-Congo peoples. These people were also victims of Igbo expansionism when wars were launched on them. Many fled, while others were assimilated. Till today, there are still communal skirmishes between Eastern Ebonyi groups and those in Western Cross River, in places such as Abi LGA. 2 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by PabloAfricanus(m): 7:09pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
scholes0: The above instances you cited...while being VALID...still look to me like mere skirmishes or inter-ethnic acculturation over time. The Aro-Ibibio seems to have the closest semblance to a real war for territory. "Expansionism" primarily means a group of people took up arms and invaded a foreign territory...took over by force of arms and drove the indigenes out. It does not really refer to a larger population overshadowing a smaller population...if you get the drift. Lemme give you instances of "proper" inter ethnic wars. (1)The Igalla-Jukun(circa 17??) and Igalla-Bini wars (circa 1515). The Attah then engaged Igalla's overlords to secure independence for Igalla kingdom. The names of the personalities involved are relatively known, the details of the conflicts are also known. (2)The Dahomey-Oyo wars. This has pretty much been documented...nothing much to say. (3) The Kukuruku wars of Edo-Idah (circa 1850) The Iyoba Idia assisted defeat of the Attah.You can look up the details. (4) The Fulani-Oyo wars The above instances are clear "armed conflicts" with opposing armies and all that... There seems to be a lack of proper documentation of the dealings of Igbos with her surrounding neighbours. If you have more instances kindly list them. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Mapletraks: 7:15pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
pazienza: @pazienza It was the foremost father of the Ijaw Nation, Chief Harold Dappa-Biriye from Bonny Island, Ken Saro-Wiwa, and other non-Ibos in the Old Eastern Region that told Gowan to create States. Chief Awolowo had nothing to do with the decision as you wrongly stated above. In the Guardian of May 27, 1999, Page 7 to Page 8, Chief Harold Dappa-Biriye accused the Ibo of dominating the minorities and of trying to RIVAL the Yoruba who were ahead of them. He also said the coup plotters of 1966 were sent by their masters. He refered to the coup plotters as School Boys who were sent to do the bidding of the Ibo leadership of the 60s. Dappa Biriye also said Ironsi's Decree 33 sent fears of domination among the minorities of the East and the North of Nigeria in that interview. Chief Dappa Biriye took the CREDIT for the creation of the states that Gen. Gowan created on May 27, 1967! Get a copy of that article if you can from the Guardian Library or archives. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:25pm On Jun 01, 2015 |
Mapletraks: The state creation was standard divide and conquer strategy which Gowon as a military officer and administrator should be quite familiar with. Actually the decision to create states was a military one necessitated by the need to hole in Ojukwu and the secessionists. Having said that, the goal was actually neutralizing Ojukwu's jurisdiction over the oil installations and hence the oil revenues which he had mandated Shell to pay to Biafra and not Lagos. Dappa Biriye cannot wholly take credit for that. While he might have had an input, I doubt if he was the originator. The players involved were too international for him to influence to that level. By that I mean that it was the British who gave Gowon the needed intelligence to call Ojukwu's bluff. You can't fund a war on threats and agitations...you need cold hard cash. Cut that off and its over. The British preferred to deal with Gowon than Ojukwu...and that was the undoing of Biafra. It was the British who had the highest stakes in the Nigerian project and so... 1 Like |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Mapletraks: 9:54pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus: @PabloAfricanus Your conclusion is NOT necessarily 100% accurate. If you are conversant with the geo-politics of Nigeria from 1914 and the events leading right up to 1970, YOU would recall that there was a strong movement in the 50s for the creation of the Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers States [COR] by the non-Ibos of the Old Eastern Region. The movement of Southern Cameroon after the plebiscite back to Cameroon their union with Nigeria was as a result of this feeling of marginalisation in the Eastern Regional politics among other reasons. Third, if you recall or read up again, The Willinks Minority Report was instituted to investigate the strong agitation by the "minorities" in Nigeria. The Ijaws and the Cross Riverians had cried out over the domination of their lands and appointments by the Ibos. This had led to the call for the COR States in the 1950s by the founder of the Niger Delta Congress, Dr. Harold Dappa-Biriye, an ex-King's College student, and other Old Eastern Region minorities. Last but NOT least, I stand by my original post on this thread that based on The Guardian article of Thursday 27th May, 1999, pages 7 to 8, Joseph Ollor-Obari interviewed Chief Harold Dappa-Biriye in Port Harcourt. In that explosive article which I filed in my historical archives/library since 1999, Dappa-Biriye said Gen. Gowon was a 31-year-old man who had just arrived from England and did NOT have a complete idea of what to do. So, from September 3, 1966, he and other non-Ibos in the Old Eastern Region impresses it on Gen. Gowon on the NEED to create new states NOT regions. He said it was the Memorandum or Petition written by all Rivers leaders of thought that finally led to General Gowon's creation if 12 new States. States creation was NOT a military idea or invention and certainly NOT by Chief Obafemi Awolowo, SAN, as wrongly stated by @pazienza in his post above. The Memorandum or Petition by the Rivers State leaders of thought to create states and not regions in 1966/7 is contained in the Appendix Section of Dr. Ken Saro-Wiwa's book entitled, "On the Darkening Plain." The Guardian article title of May 27, 1999, page 7 to 8 is "Democracy and Autocracy, My Testimony: Dappa-Biriye." I had to check my digital organiser to get the full title of the article and the EXACT date of publication as I do NOT want to misinform the younger generation on REAL historical events. I would have scanned the article from Guardian and uploaded it on this thread, but it is NOT located where I now live. So, for those of us who hate Historical Revisionism and the distortion of truth, YOU can get to RUTAM HOUSE in Lagos State, along Apapa-Oshodi Expressway to see if you can get that exact publication to read from there archives or library. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:15pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Mapletraks: What are you talking about. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:28pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
1. The creation of states by Gowon and Awo were done solely to divide Biafra. 2. Dappa is only but a person with a single vote. Before Gowon and Awo madness of state creations, New regions were always created via referendum! Bamenda and Midwest left the Western and Eastern region via referendum, not via military fiat! 3. Ojukwu was always open to a UN supervised plebiscite in the Eastern region non areas Igbo areas, an offer Gowon and Awo rejected because of a British intelligence report that warned them that the minorities would chose to stay with Ndiigbo. 4. For every Dappa in Ijawland, there was Opigo, kings of Buguma and Bakana and other Ijaw kings, they were all royal to Biafra and Ojukwu. For every Saro Wiwa, there was a Kogbara who was a legitimate Ogoni leader in Biafra. 5. Gowon and Awo state creation wasn't created using Willink reports, it was divisive and a desperate attempt. Biafra offered the Eastern region non Igbo groups more provinces and autonomy that satisfied the willink report more. 2 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:42pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
“THE WILLINK COMMISSION REPORT OF
JULY 1958”
Posted by: admin January 4, 2014 in
News
THE HISTORICAL AND POLITICAL
BACKGROUND.
1. “More than 98% of people who inhabit
this area (the ‘Ibo Plateau’ of the Eastern
region) are Ibo and speak one language,
though of course with certain differences
of dialect. There are nearly five million of
them and they are too many for the soil to
support: they are vigorous and intelligent
and have pushed outward in every
direction, seeking a livelihood by trade or
in service in the surrounding areas of the
Eastern Region, in the Western Region, in
the North and outside Nigeria. They are
no more popular with their neighbours
than is usual in the case of an energetic
and expanding people whose neighbours
have a more leisurely outlook on life.”
2. “Though there has been no great
kingdom or indigenous culture in the
Eastern Region, the coastal chiefs grew on
their trade with the (European merchant)
ships and they adopted customs, clothing
and housing more advanced than those of
the peoples of the interior on whom they
had at first preyed for slaves. They came
during the 19th Century to regard the
people of the interior as backward and
ignorant, and it was therefore a blow to
their pride, as well as to their pockets,
when the Ibos began to push outwards
into the surrounding fringe of the country
and particularly into the Calabar area, to
take up land, to grow rich, to own houses
and lorries and occupy posts in public
services and in the services of large
trading firms.”
“It was among the Ibos, formerly despised
by the people of Calabar as source of
slaves and as a backward people of the
interior, now feared and disliked as
energetic and educated, that the first
political party formed.”
3. “It is important to remember that of this
(Ogoja) Province’s 1,082,000 inhabitants,
723,000 are Ibos, almost entirely in
Abakaliki and Afikpo (Divisions), while the
census classifies 350,000 as “Other
Nigerian Tribes.”
4. The Rivers Province …includes the two
divisions of Brass and Degema, both
overwhelmingly Ijaw, and the Ogoni
Division. The former Rivers Division also
includes over 300,000 Ibos of whom
250,000 are in Ahoada Division and
45,000 in Port Harcourt. Port Harcourt is a
town of recent growth and of rapidly
increasing importance; it is built on land
that blonged originally to an outlying
branch of the Ibo tribe, the Diobus, but is
largely inhabited by the Ibos from the
interior who have come to trade or seek
employment….Of the total 747,000 in the
Rivers province, 305,000 are Ibos, 240,000
are Ijaws and 156,000 are Ogonis.”
5. “The strip to the south of the Ibo block,
is physically, divided by a block of Ibo
territory, tipped by the important Ibo town
of Port Harcourt and tribally divided
between the Ijaws and the Ogonis.”
6. “In the whole of this non-Ibo area there
is present in varying degree some fear of
being over-run, commercially and
politically, by the Ibos….. if Ahoada and
Port Harcourt, which are really Ibo, are
considered with the solid centre of Ibo
population, there are 54 seats for the Ibo
area and 30 for COR (Calabar, Ogoja and
Rivers) in (Eastern Regional House of
Assembly).” |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:45pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
THE FEARS AND GRIEVANCES OF
MINORITIES
7. “It was suggested (by non-Ibo
petitioners) that it was the deliberate
object of the Ibo majority in the Region to
fill every post with Ibos (in public post
and services).….when, however we came
to consider specific complaints about the
composition of public bodies, we found
them in many cases exaggerated or
unreasonable.”
8. “The allegation was put forward by
counsel (to petitioners) that the Judiciary
(when not European) was predominantly
Ibo, with the implication that this caused
fear among those who are not Ibos. But it
was clearly stated in evidence by Dr.
Udoma, the leader of UNIP, that no
occasion could be adduced of the
judiciary acting with partiality. The fact is
that the legal profession is largely Ibos
and the reasons for this do not seem to
be Government action. It is therefore
inevitable that there should be an Ibo
preponderance among Judges and
Magistrates. Further, it is the declared
policy of Government that the Judiciary
should be federal and this does not
indicate a desire to control it. Again, the
operation and composition of Public
Service Commission here, as in the West,
appeared to us in no way open to
reproach.”
9. “In the Police, which in this region
alone is wholly Federal, the number of
Ibos in the higher appointments is not out
of proportion to the Ibos in the region.
The force is now federally controlled and
although there are a large number of Ibos
in the lower ranks, this is due to the fact
that it has for long been a tradition among
the Ibos to offer themselves for
recruitment in this force in far greater
numbers than any other tribe.”
10. “we noted that in five years, 1952 –
1957, from a total of 412 secondary
scholarships, 216 were awarded to
persons living in the COR areas, while the
figures for post-secondary scholarships
were 211 out of 623. The latter is about
the right proportion of one-third, the
former considerably in excess. It was
suggested that scholarships awarded to
non-Ibos were of an inferior kind and that
the best scholarships went to Ibos, but we
were, unable to see that this claim held
any validity. On the evidence before us,
we conclude that the allegations of
discriminations in the matter of
scholarships are unjustified.” |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:45pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
THE FEARS AND GRIEVANCES OF
MINORITIES
7. “It was suggested (by non-Ibo
petitioners) that it was the deliberate
object of the Ibo majority in the Region to
fill every post with Ibos (in public post
and services).….when, however we came
to consider specific complaints about the
composition of public bodies, we found
them in many cases exaggerated or
unreasonable.”
8. “The allegation was put forward by
counsel (to petitioners) that the Judiciary
(when not European) was predominantly
Ibo, with the implication that this caused
fear among those who are not Ibos. But it
was clearly stated in evidence by Dr.
Udoma, the leader of UNIP, that no
occasion could be adduced of the
judiciary acting with partiality. The fact is
that the legal profession is largely Ibos
and the reasons for this do not seem to
be Government action. It is therefore
inevitable that there should be an Ibo
preponderance among Judges and
Magistrates. Further, it is the declared
policy of Government that the Judiciary
should be federal and this does not
indicate a desire to control it. Again, the
operation and composition of Public
Service Commission here, as in the West,
appeared to us in no way open to
reproach.”
9. “In the Police, which in this region
alone is wholly Federal, the number of
Ibos in the higher appointments is not out
of proportion to the Ibos in the region.
The force is now federally controlled and
although there are a large number of Ibos
in the lower ranks, this is due to the fact
that it has for long been a tradition among
the Ibos to offer themselves for
recruitment in this force in far greater
numbers than any other tribe.”
10. “we noted that in five years, 1952 –
1957, from a total of 412 secondary
scholarships, 216 were awarded to
persons living in the COR areas, while the
figures for post-secondary scholarships
were 211 out of 623. The latter is about
the right proportion of one-third, the
former considerably in excess. It was
suggested that scholarships awarded to
non-Ibos were of an inferior kind and that
the best scholarships went to Ibos, but we
were, unable to see that this claim held
any validity. On the evidence before us,
we conclude that the allegations of
discriminations in the matter of
scholarships are unjustified.” |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:47pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
11. “It was further suggested that loans
by the Eastern Regional Finance
Corporation, the Eastern Region
Development Board, and the Eastern
Region Development Corporation were
made with some degree of preference to
Ibos. It did appear that most of the loans
made by these bodies were to Ibos, but
that is not to say that this was
necessarily improper. Ibos constitute two
thirds of the population of the region and
have a bigger share of financial and
commercial responsibility than their
numbers warrant.”
12. “That there should be modern
streetlight in Onitsha, and not Calabar,
was also quoted as example of
discrimination; it proved however that
Onitsha Urban District Council had
financed this measure from their own
resources.”
13. “The question of land was repeatedly
raised, it being resented by the Efiks and
Ibibios that the Ibos should acquire land
at all in their territory while the methods
by which it was obtained were also
questioned. There is no doubt that on the
Ibo Plateau there is insufficient land for
the people and the Ibos ate thrusting
outwards where possible they acquire
land and use it either for cultivation or
building…..This is a matter which will
require legislation sooner or later and it
will be delicate to handle, but the
economic process is in itself healthy and
we had little sympathy with a witness who
remarked that there is much undeveloped
land in district and he was anxious that it
should not fall into the hand of the
Ibos….We believe that Governments in
Nigeria should be careful not to try to
protect minorities by introducing
measures that would restrict
development.”
14. “A group of miscellaneous grievances
and charges against the Ibos from Calabar
may be treated together; we were told that
the Ibos did not observe local customs in
the markets….We formed the impression
that jealousy of the Ibos successes in the
markets was the main factor.” |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:49pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
THE PROPOSAL FOR NEW STATES
15. “The Ogoja state proposed to us
would include former Ogoja province,
whose population of slightly more than
One million include more than 700,000
Ibos…the main intention would be
separation from the central body of Ibo
population, but in which they will still be
linked together with as a minority with
their Ibo neighbours in Abakaliki and
Afikpo…A majority of evidence we heard
from Ogoja was direct that they preferred
the present situation to any association
with Calabar and that they were at least as
much afraid of domination by Efiks and
Ibibios as by Ibos.”
16. “The (Calabar, Ogoja and Rivers or
COR) state proposed would consist of
Calabar, Rivers and Ogoja provinces
excluding the two Ibo Divisions of
Abakaliki and Afikpo. The population of
this area is 2,649,000 and the following
would be the five largest tribes:
Ibibio 717,000
Annang 435,000
Ibo 428,000
Ijaw 251,000
Ogoni 156,000
As already explained, the small but
important Efik tribe of 71,000…The (COR)
area is far from homogenous , and many
of the other tribes expressed at least as
much fear of the Efiks and Ibibios as of
the Ibo. It would leave the Ibos of the Ibo
Plateau surrounded by a state whose
reason for existence was hostility to
themselves: the Ibos are an expanding
people…”
17. “The area claimed for Rivers state
consists of the whole of the Rivers
province, that is: The Division of Brass,
Degema, Ogoni, Port Harcourt and Ahoada,
together with the Western Ijaw Division
from the western region, and two small
sections in the Eastern Region from
outside the Rivers Province, Opodo and
Andoni being one, Ndoki the other.”
18. “Port Harcourt is an Ibo town and it is
growing rapidly and the indigenous
branch of the Ibos who are original
inhabitants are already out-numbered by
Ibos from the hinterland.”
19. “The people of Ahoada, a Division of
which a pan runs down to meet Port
Harcourt, appear at one time to have
favoured the idea of a Rivers state, but
have changed their views and before us
expressed themselves as strongly against
it. Comparatively few of them live in the
low-lying swampy country of the coastal
strip and they have voted for the NCNC
consistently, they said themselves that a
main factor in their change of front had
been the inclusion if the Western Ijaws in
the proposed state. So long, they said, as
the Rivers state was to consist of the
River Province only, the Ibos would have
been the most numerous tribe within it:
but the inclusion of the Western Ijaw
Division put them at a numerical
disadvantage beside the Ijaws and they
therefore preferred to stay out. Whether or
not this was a line of reasoning that really
had a wide appeal, the fact remain that
before us they were opposed to the idea
of the state. This is not surprising
because their problems are different from
those of the ijaws.” |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:54pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 10:57pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Now that we have a solid base of the willink report, we can now separate lies from facts and truth. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 11:00pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
The willink report clearly made it obvious that the cries of Igbo domination by non Igbo groups lacked substance. They were built on sentiments with no iota of truth in them, just like the cries of Igbo domination by the rest of the country. I am sure real elites of the non Igbo groups of the Eastern region like Kogbara, Prof Eyo Bassey, Ekukinam Bassey, and Opigo knew this, and this was why they pitched their tents with Biafra. Igbo domination was a myth. 2 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 11:11pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
[b] “The people of Ahoada, a Division of
which a pan runs down to meet Port
Harcourt, appear at one time to have
favoured the idea of a Rivers state, but
have changed their views and before us
expressed themselves as strongly against
it. Comparatively few of them live in the
low-lying swampy country of the coastal
strip and they have voted for the NCNC
consistently, they said themselves that a
main factor in their change of front had
been the inclusion if the Western Ijaws in
the proposed state. So long, they said, as
the Rivers state was to consist of the
River Province only, the Ibos would have
been the most numerous tribe within it:
but the inclusion of the Western Ijaw
Division put them at a numerical
disadvantage beside the Ijaws and they
therefore preferred to stay out. Whether or
not this was a line of reasoning that really
had a wide appeal, the fact remain that
before us they were opposed to the idea
of the state. This is not surprising
because their problems are different from
those of the ijaws.” [/b] |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 11:14pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Notice that the Ahoada people, in as much as they feared Igbo domination from the hinterlands, they also will not be a part of Rivers state that will include the Ijaws, for they feared Ijaw domination too. In other words, they desired a region of their own or rather be left with the hinterlands Igbos in the Eastern region. The so called COR agitation couldn't have passed through a referendum and stand. The very reason Gowon and Awo had to force it down via a military fiat! |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 11:26pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
“The Ogoja state proposed to us would include former Ogoja province, whose population of slightly more than One million include more than 700,000 Ibos… the main intention would be separation from the central body of Ibo population, but in which they will still be linked together with as a minority with their Ibo neighbours in Abakaliki and Afikpo…A majority of evidence we heard from Ogoja was direct that they preferred the present situation to any association with Calabar and that they were at least as much afraid of domination by Efiks and Ibibios as by Ibos.” 1 Notice, that the Ogoja province prefered to stay in Eastern region than be trapped in a region with the Efik-Ibibio-Annang conglomerate! But this was exactly what Gowon and Awo did against the Ogoja's. For without their consent, using a military fiat, they placed Ogoja region( Modern day non Efik part of Cross Rivers) with the Efik-Ibibio-Annang conglomerate, in an abomination called South Eastern state! So, how exactly did Awo and Gowon follow the Willink report? 1 Like |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Nobody: 11:54pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
OkutaNla: No matter how u twist it, Lagos used to be a Yoruba state. Its no man's land now. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 11:57pm On Jun 03, 2015 |
Ojukwu and Eastern region leaders took cognizant of the Willink report, while creating Biafran provinces. In Biafra, the Ahoada, the Ikwerre/Etche/Ogba/, the Ogoja were given provinces of their own, away from the Efik-Ibibio-Annang and Ijaws and hinterland Igbos The Efik( Calabar province)had a province, like wise Annang( Annang province)and Ibbibio( Uyo province). Every Biafran group complaint and fears were allayed. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 12:12am On Jun 04, 2015 |
Now, Gowon could have easily granted the Eastern non Igbo groups their wish by creating all those states they demanded but he didn't, cos appeasing them wasn't his goal, his goal was to divide Biafra and get his hands on the Eastern crude oil, he couldnt get enough of the crude oil, if he created too many states down south. He needed more states up North and as few as possible down south. He was no father Christmas, he came for exploitation, not liberation like some fools thought. 2 Likes |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Mapletraks: 3:21am On Jun 04, 2015 |
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Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Nobody: 8:46am On Jun 04, 2015 |
Mapletraks: @bolded. Did Mr Harold ever state how he came to know this? 1 Like |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Abagworo(m): 9:17am On Jun 04, 2015 |
pazienza: The issue was mostly words that came out from Igbos on the streets which declared Biafra an Igbo game and made mockery of other people or people with different view. It is not different from the way present day Igbos were all over fb, twitter and Nairaland abusing other Nigerians or even blackmailing their own like Rochas Okorocha. Biafra would have been a success story if well managed. The minorities have better package under Nigeria than under an Igbo dominated country. 1 Like |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by pazienza(m): 2:35pm On Jun 04, 2015 |
Abagworo: This is another baseless propaganda backed with no fact. On the contrary, there was a high level of synergy and tolerance between Ndiigbo and her Eastern non Igbo groups, we married off our daughters to them and they married off theirs to us, that wouldn't happen if we mocked them. No Igbo on the streets made mockery of our non Igbo Easterners, rather we treated them with respect, Adaka Boro was elected the SUG president in UNN, an Igbo dominated university. You are nothing but an enemy of Igbo progress, trying by all means to paint Ndigbo black. You should stop pretending to be Igbo, cos you are obviously not one. The non Igbo groups would have been better of in Biafra. I had given the reasons for this before. |
Re: Ndiigbo, Her Non-igbo Eastern Neighbors And The Myth Of Igbo Domination by Ola17: 3:09am On Jun 05, 2015 |
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