I was reading about the initial amount agreed by Nigeria and a chinese firm to biuld the fast rail network in the southern states. I can't help but shudder. It was bigger than what Chiina paid to buy the initial bullet train technology from Germany! Now we are paying 20 billion dollars for a paltry 5000 mwts! Who signs these contracts? Who negotiates them? Some graduates of some almajiri model schools

It's been a long time coming though, Nigeria is too big a country to still be stuck with thermal and hydro as our only source of energy where some people go still they hold the whole Nation for ransom at will. As per maintainance/safety I'm sure the people involved will recieve proper and required training.

Teempakguy: Nuclear power is a bad idea. We can come up with better things

Yeah right, better things like what? U've got a better idea? More billions should be pumped into the existing useless power source?

cirmuell:
It's been a long time coming though, Nigeria is too big a country to still be stuck with thermal and hydro as our only source of energy where some people go still they hold the whole Nation for ransom at will. As per maintainance/safety I'm sure the people involved will recieve proper and required training.

Yeah right, better things like what? U've got a better idea? More billions should be pumped into the existing useless power source?

there are better things. I know what I am saying.

The price tag for the second Niger bridge is almost the same price for Chinas across the ocean - longest bridge in the whole world. .. we really know how to make headlines the wrong way. .

gbl01:



My brother, its wise to understand people before you talk rather than pouring out insult. I sure won't speak to you in same Manner because you sound childish.


One quick point against urs. Ajaokuta steel company was built and managed by Russia, it was booming, employed over 150,000 people. Today, its managed by Indians, its completely dead and the workforce is less than 3000. They're struggling to resuscitate it nevertheless, but the rot is massive.


So when the Nuclear plants are transferred to Nigerians, 30years after what will happen? Think about the future before you defend the indefensible.

I apologise if I was insultive.

But you need to know that Ajaokuta is a special case of cold war power play, so its problems are complicated. You probably don't know that the US advised us against it after Late JFK initially promised Nigeria a steel plant. Rather, we were advised to import higher grade ores from Brazil rather than processing lower grade ores we have at uneconomical costs. But Russia gave us alternative, that alternative is what we are battling with today.

Then I'm not aware of the contract model for Ajaokuta, but this nuclear one is expressly indicated as BOOT. So unless you are sure Ajaokuta was BOOT too, then I see no basis of comparison at all sir.

owobokiri:
I was reading about the initial amount agreed by Nigeria and a chinese firm to biuld the fast rail network in the southern states. I can't help but shudder. It was bigger than what Chiina paid to buy the initial bullet train technology from Germany! Now we are paying 20 billion dollars for a paltry 5000 mwts! Who signs these contracts? Who negotiates them? Some graduates of some almajiri model schools

Most of the people involved in this are some of your brothers from wherever you crawled out from.

The money waisted on the mediocre thermal source for man than 15year now is close to $35b yet we are still struggling to get up to 4Kmw, it went below 1K in late may...so yes if $20b will give us a stable, dependable 5000mw without anybody coming out tomorrow to plunged the whole country into darkness, so be it. Besides, it's going to be co-financed, anybody wey no like this one can go jump inside Lagoon.

Teempakguy:
there are better things. I know what I am saying.

Let us know what you're saying.

homerac7:


I apologise if I was insultive.

But you need to know that Ajaokuta is a special case of cold war power play, so its problems are complicated. You probably don't know that the US advised us against it after Late JFK initially promised Nigeria a steel plant. Rather, we were advised to import higher grade ores from Brazil rather than processing lower grade ores we have at uneconomical costs. But Russia gave us alternative, that alternative is what we are battling with today.

Then I'm not aware of the contract model for Ajaokuta, but this nuclear one is expressly indicated as BOOT. So unless you are sure Ajaokuta was BOOT too, then I see no basis of comparison at all sir.

It's cool to debate with u.

The US and UK advised Nigeria against setting a steel company that our ores were too dirty. They advise Nigeria to import ores instead, that's when they promised us a steel company. Apparently the UK has the biggest steel company. The Russians told us we can and they built a wonderful company employing over 150k people and booming heavily until Nigeria booted the Russians out. Note that the boom span was about 2decades

The US always have a way of pushing our government to cancel contracts with Russia and China. Yes it was BOOT model and the problem has always been with the 'T' so when 'T' happens, Nigeria messes up.


Almost all signed contracts are using the BOOT model so pls stop sounding as if its the game changer, it has always been.

homerac7:
Aaaargh! Too much ignorance here !



Read again, it is a BOOT arrangement, meaning it will be built , owned, operated by the Russians before being transferred to Nigeria after a stipulated period.



Scientists don't maintain plants, technicians[b][/b] do.



1. I'm not sure of average rate at the moment, but nuclear plants are the costliest to set up among the popular energy plants. They don't come cheap. Consolation is that they produce the cheapest electricity of the lot.

2. Japan is shutting down because of its environmental risk profile I.e it is in an earthquake prone region, while Nigeria has a better environmental risk profile in that respect.

Other nations shutting down have better energy mix and older nuclear reactors/plants. Ours is new and based on newer and safer technology too.




It would have been a good thing for people of Daura, but nuclear plants are sited near large fresh water source for (tertiary) cooling of reactors. So that's why it is in Kogi (rivers Niger and Benue) and Akwa Ibom (Qua Oboe river).



No he will carry on with the national policy on energy mix and nuclear power generation. It is part of our national development programmes.



No sir. It is a national policy inducted under late president UMYA



Geregu is in Kogi state in Ebira (?) land. Calm down, it is a national asset. Stop reasoning like boko haram.



Read it again and see IAEA being involved. Building nuclear plants is not like buying Tiger or Elepaq generators. There are stringent statutory requirements and operational procedures to meet.



Hydro dams have their strong points, but they are not exactly environmental friendly and are highly susceptible to hydrological cycle and plenty of community related issues both upstream and downstream. Moreover, you need energy mix to improve your general reliability.



I pray and hope (and would lobby if I'm in such prime position)that one of the next sets planned will be sited between Imo river and Anambra river courses. You don't know what you are wishing away. Pls aclm down and atop reasoning like Boko Haram.



Many things go under project capital cost sir. You can't be sure until you see the breakdown. Most times, associated infrastructure, consultancy/supervision, and logistics make such costs swell especially in low developed environment like ours.



It is natural reaction to "hate" new ideas. Please calm down and adapt to change sir. Lol

Comparing Nigeria energy policy to Germany's is like comparing a poor man that has family of 12 and earning #18k minimum wage with Osun State ( :p ) and idle house wife to a senior manager in Schlumberger with a senior bank manager wife and two kids on choices of food: one has better options than the other.

China
Location Sandouping, Yiling ,
Hubei
Coordinates 30°49′23″N
111°00′12″E / 
30.82306°N
111.00333°E
Purpose Power, flood control,
navigation
Status Operational
Construction began December 14, 1994
Opening date 2008
Construction cost ¥ 180 billion (US
$26 billion)
Owner(s) China Yangtze Power
(subsidiary of China
Three Gorges
Corporation )
Dam and spillways
Type of dam Gravity dam
Impounds Yangtze River
Height 181 m (594 ft)
Length 2,335 m (7,661 ft)
Width (crest) 40 m (131 ft)
Width (base) 115 m (377 ft)
Spillway capacity 116,000 m 3 /s
(4,100,000 cu ft/s)
Reservoir
Creates Three Gorges Reservoir
Total capacity 39.3 km 3
(31,900,000 acre·ft )
Catchment area 1,000,000 km 2
(390,000 sq mi)
Surface area 1,084 km 2 (419 sq mi)
[1]
Max. length 600 km (370 mi) [2]
Normal elevation 175 m (574 ft)
Power station
Commission date 2003–2012
Type Conventional
Hydraulic head Rated: 80.6 m (264 ft)
Maximum: 113 m (371 ft)
[1]
Power generation
Nameplate capacity 22,500 MW
Capacity factor 45%
Annual generation 98.8 TWh (356 PJ )
(2014)
Turbines 32 × 700 MW
2 × 50 MW Fr

It's better we cue into other sources of power generations and leave out the nuclear power plants. the three gorges dam produces more than all put together nuclear plants in uk.

chernobyl is still fresh in our memory

cirmuell:
Most of the people involved in this are some of your brothers from wherever you crawled out from.

The money waisted on the mediocre thermal source for man than 15year now is close to $35b yet we are still struggling to get up to 4Kmw, it went below 1K in late april...so yes if $20b will give us a stable, dependable 5000mw without anybody coming out tomorrow to plunged the whole country into darkness, so be it. Besides, it's going to co-financed, anybody wey no like this one can go jump inside Lagoon.

It can't get dumber than this. .

MINISTER2000:
China
Location Sandouping, Yiling ,
Hubei
Coordinates 30°49′23″N
111°00′12″E / 
30.82306°N
111.00333°E
Purpose Power, flood control,
navigation
Status Operational
Construction began December 14, 1994
Opening date 2008
Construction cost ¥ 180 billion (US
$26 billion)
Owner(s) China Yangtze Power
(subsidiary of China
Three Gorges
Corporation )
Dam and spillways
Type of dam Gravity dam
Impounds Yangtze River
Height 181 m (594 ft)
Length 2,335 m (7,661 ft)
Width (crest) 40 m (131 ft)
Width (base) 115 m (377 ft)
Spillway capacity 116,000 m 3 /s
(4,100,000 cu ft/s)
Reservoir
Creates Three Gorges Reservoir
Total capacity 39.3 km 3
(31,900,000 acre·ft )
Catchment area 1,000,000 km 2
(390,000 sq mi)
Surface area 1,084 km 2 (419 sq mi)
[1]
Max. length 600 km (370 mi) [2]
Normal elevation 175 m (574 ft)
Power station
Commission date 2003–2012
Type Conventional
Hydraulic head Rated: 80.6 m (264 ft)
Maximum: 113 m (371 ft)
[1]
Power generation
Nameplate capacity 22,500 MW
Capacity factor 45%
Annual generation 98.8 TWh (356 PJ )
(2014)
Turbines 32 × 700 MW
2 × 50 MW Fr

Sorry, I don't get you.

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owobokiri:


It can't get dumber than this. .

You know, I understand your plight...that's what you resort to when you have nothing meaningful to say. #ciao

homerac7:


Sorry, I don't get you.

it is chaeper. jst hv a look at the cost n what is being produced.

MINISTER2000:
it is chaeper. jst hv a look at the cost n what is being produced.

No river in West Africa can give you such hydro capacity sir! Closest you can get is the Grand Inga dam project on the Congo in Congo DR.

You can chose to build 100,000MW nuclear power plant is anywhere in Nigeria (in you can raise the fund required), but you can't build any MW above what the river sources around you can provide for hydro power. Even having the water flow does not mean the topology will give you favourable location.

So China building 3 Gorges dam on the Yanges does not mean Nigeria, or West Africa has a "Yanges" to build her own.

This yeye country sef. they never maintain ordinary ones (thermal, hydro) finish they come they eye advanced delicate deadly devastating technology (one). Anyways, am not bothered sha because I know the money will be siphoned and the project won't see the light of the day. ***breaths in, breaths out*** **sighs**

Meaning? Meaning?

abeg i thank GOd beg una to give the maintenance to russia or iran or the chinese or japanese whyile you do exchange program for our willing scholars to go study nuclear engineeering and quantum physics , even one small university for US wey no even dey top50 dey use nuclear reactor generate light for the whole school talk less of NIgeria

gaussy:

“With NAEC’s plan to inject 1,200mw from first nuclear power plant in 2025 and increase to 4,800mw in 2035, the energy mix is expected to have increased to about 20 percent power generation from clean sources,” Igali said.

too bad the world would have ended by then

gaussy:


http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/index.php/business/57411-fg-picks-geregu-itu-as-2-400mw-nuclear-power-sites

I take god beg you dont try it. Boko haram can bomb it

Time to relocate my family

Nuclear power ke!

next chernobyl disaster site loading coz Nigerians lack maintenance culture

remember the disaster that fukushima was even with the sophisticated tech in japan

FINALLY... Someone now realizes that a Massive Nation like Nigeria needs a Nuclear Power Plant..


I think this is a big leap in the right direction..

homerac7:


No river in West Africa can give you such hydro capacity sir! Closest you can get is the Grand Inga dam project on the Congo in Congo DR.

You can chose to build 100,000MW nuclear power plant is anywhere in Nigeria (in you can raise the fund required), but you can't build any MW above what the river sources around you can provide for hydro power. Even having the water flow does not mean the topology will give you favourable location.

So China building 3 Gorges dam on the Yanges does not mean Nigeria, or West Africa has a "Yanges" to build her own.

What I meant is we can have more of hydropower dams to increase our power generation. pls sir, why r developed nations considering a move frm nuclear plants?

Nuclear power plant is a very effective and reliable source of power generation, however there is a serious side effect to human and property if not properly handle, I don't thing Nigeria is capable of successfully operating this kind of plant to it optimum safely principles, I feel if we want to go into this, let it not be base on BOT for now, let the plant be own by Russia film and the Government will ensure employment of Nigerian Engineers for proper training before we should be talking about BOT in nuclear power plant.

What factors determine the location of nuclear power plant? why can it be located at Abuja, why should they bring it close to my villa @ Itu, I hope safety will be seriously considered when executing this project.

Where's VickJames bushdoc9919

Remember this quotes

GodMode:


ethiopia can build a dam
that would generate more than 3,000MW in
5years with 2.5 billion dollars(borrowed
funds)

Your heroes steal BILLIONS OF DOLLARS YEARLY... Yet if $2.5B was spent every 5yrs since 1970 Nigeria would be much more conducive by now..

Then you said

VickJames:


Lmao!

Spending 2.5billion dollars for 3000MW?

That's wasteful!

Now your govt is paying $20B for 4000MW..

HOW WISE IS THAT

Now we are getting somewhere!

intresting what they are saying is that we cant get stable power in 10yrs time