Henry120:


Why don't you quit this rabble-rousing, show us evidence that they have been winged?

Henry120:


Patches689, please educate your fellow soweto dullard, he is down too deep, i don't think i can help him. LOL!

jln115:

Gripen has way way way lower wing loading than your Junk Fighter, also throw in the fact that the Gripen has moveable canards makes it not only more maneuverable than your JF but also more maneuverable than almost any fighter on the market.

saengine:


You were transfixed with the number 9...you claimed thats how many we had total. Now you're running away from your own number 9.

You cant ask for proof twice in a row small boy. You asked for proof that we physically have more than 9 pilots. Today it was given to you....there are physically more than 9 Gripen pilots in the SAAF.

Now it is your job to either apologize and say that you were wrong, that indeed there are more than 9 pilots. OR show us which of the 14/15 pilots shown today are no longer in the SAAF. Up to you. It is YOUR turn for proof, not ours.

Centrifude:


www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1505103&page=28

Those are definitely Somali Cadets. There's a source to prove it, it has multiple pictures of Somalis wearing that Uniform.

So you and @agaugust can just sit the f*ck down.

agaugust:


[s]How does taking photographs make a pilot combat qualified? Even Jacob Zuma can pose for fun photo wearing pilots suit.

Is a photograph equal to standard flying hours per year? E-fool.

Dude, SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and NONE of them is combat qualified with 150 hours flight per year, it's a pity you have not got a source to prove otherwise....your bad luck not ours [/s]
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Nutuk:


I already said I don't know for sure, there is no need for rude language.

I cannot tell from which countries they are as currently there are many military cadets from many African countries in Turkey: Gambiya, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mali, Nigeria, Algeria, Gana, Ethiyopia, Chad, Zimbabwe, Morroco and Somali are the main countries having cadets in Turkey. The guys from the pictures IMO are not the same persons, although there are indeed also many Somalians in Turkey getting scolarships and admitted to military academies.

For the last 7-8 years Turkey placed a special attention to Africa, opening many embassies making diplomatic relations and the Turkish airlines has probably become the major airline that is flying to most of the African countries now.

Henry120:


That's a typical butt-hurt South-African!

saengine:


You were transfixed with the number 9...you claimed thats how many we had total. Now you're running away from your own number 9.

You cant ask for proof twice in a row small boy. You asked for proof that we physically have more than 9 pilots. Today it was given to you....there are physically more than 9 Gripen pilots in the SAAF.

Now it is your job to either apologize and say that you were wrong, that indeed there are more than 9 pilots. OR show us which of the 14/15 pilots shown today are no longer in the SAAF. Up to you. It is YOUR turn for proof, not ours.

Centrifude:

Please define Vertical Takeoff for us.

Henry120:


There is no evidence that you have more than 9 qualified Gripen pilots. Did you provide evidence that they have been winged?

Did you provide evidence and it was disputed. Guys in flight suit, do not show whether they are Pilots or Navigators or Trainees, no evidence they have been winged.

Former President GEJ in Camo, does this make him a General in the army or even an officer in the army?


It is your job to provide evidence that SAAF has above 9 winged pilots.

agaugust:


Not the same cadets exactly, where is the tall huge guy that does not look Somali, the big man with the West African stature?

Do you have all their names and I.D.s ?

E-fool

Henry120:


There is no evidence that you have more than 9 qualified Gripen pilots. Did you provide evidence that they have been winged?

Did you provide evidence and it was disputed. Guys in flight suit, do not show whether they are Pilots or Navigators or Trainees, no evidence they have been winged.

Former President GEJ in Camo, does this make him a General in the army or even an officer in the army?


It is your job to provide evidence that SAAF has above 9 winged pilots.

Nutuk:


I already said I don't know for sure, there is no need for rude language.

I cannot tell from which countries they are as currently there are many military cadets from many African countries in Turkey: Gambiya, Senegal, Burkina Faso, Mali, Nigeria, Algeria, Gana, Ethiyopia, Chad, Zimbabwe, Morroco and Somali are the main countries having cadets in Turkey. The guys from the pictures IMO are not the same persons, although there are indeed also many Somalians in Turkey getting scolarships and admitted to military academies.

For the last 7-8 years Turkey placed a special attention to Africa, opening many embassies making diplomatic relations and the Turkish airlines has probably become the major airline that is flying to most of the African countries now.

Centrifude:


I apologise for being Rude, but I'm sure the link posted will now clear things out because those people are identified as Somali Cadets, many of those pages are about the Somali Military so I doubt that they are wrong about those being Somali Airforce cadets.

Centrifude:

Those are the same Uniforms you fvcking block-head, you are a complete slowpoke.

Nutuk:


I think he is confused by the uniforms and thinking those uniforms are Somali uniforms, they are not!

Those uniforms are all Turkish uniforms, it doesn't matter from which countries the military students are they all wear the standard Turkish

military cadet uniform.
White uniform = navy cadet
Green uniform = land forces cadet
blue uniform = airforces cadet

@Saengine, you need to kneel down and apologize to me

saengine:


Continued...

Pic 1: This pilot flew a solo display at AAD 2014. That's where this pic is from.He is not a navigator and not even Liberia's Air Force will let a "trainee/unqualified" pilot do high G manuevers over a crowd of 50 000 people.

Pic 2: Like i said this pic came from Christo Crous, an official photographer IN the SAAF. It was titled "2 Squadron pilots" and was taken just before the 2009 Inaugural flypast. Pilot in the middle (black guy) is Commander of 2 Squadron. Experienced fighter pilot, not navigator.

That brings us to 9 pilots. Now...ALL the other people in the 2nd pic will have to be navigators if you are right. During the 2009 flypast only the black pilot flew, and the rest of them were clinging on to the outside of the Gripen? Was it a "1 jet" flypast?

What does your common sense tell you about the rest of those men in pic 2? All navigators? Or basic trainees who barely know how to fly in a straight line?

Keep in mind many Gripen pilots were transferred from the Cheetah program. So tell us...the rest of the people in pic 2 are not Gripen pilots?

agaugust:


[s]How does taking photographs make a pilot combat qualified? Even Jacob Zuma can pose for fun photo wearing pilots suit.

Is a photograph equal to standard flying hours per year? E-fool.

Dude, SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and NONE of them is combat qualified with 150 hours flight per year, it's a pity you have not got a source to prove otherwise....your bad luck not ours [/s]
.

agaugust:


How does taking photographs make a pilot combat qualified? Even Jacob Zuma can pose for fun photo wearing pilots suit.

Is a photograph equal to standard flying hours per year? E-fool.

Dude, SAAF has ONLY 9 Gripen pilots and NONE of them is combat qualified with 150 hours flight per year, it's a pity you have not got a source to prove otherwise....your bad luck not ours
.

Centrifude:

Those are the same Uniforms you fvcking block-head, you are a complete slowpoke.

FighterPilot:



The age will tell you a lot about the experience of pilots. Normally pupil pilots in SAAF are between 18-22 or 25 when you already have a flying licence from private flying schools.

agaugust:


Which experience? SAAF pilots have ZERO combat experience with Gripen and Hawk jets.....and the ancient pilots of 1980s Angolan war that were defeated by Cuban teenage pilots have retired or ran away to Australia
.

agaugust:




Those uniforms are confirmed Turkish uniforms.....Olodo Rabata



@Saengine, you need to kneel down and apologize to me

Last time you were shouting...."Military Researcher who does not know his own country's uniform"

I told you then that foreign trainees do wear special academy uniforms of the country where they train, but since you don't know what a military researcher knows, you played your balls over the bar like a Soweto village mutant, so now apologize to the Nigerian military researcher......say sorry boss
.

agaugust:


Video evidence shows the JF-17 Block I beats the Gripen Block II in combat maneuverability, even when the Gripen video is that flown by the best Swedish pilots.

Then the JF-17 has a higher flight altitude than the weaker Gripen, so when they both waste each others missiles with countermeasures, it becomes a gun battle and the JF-17 flying above the Gripen will gun down your overpriced jet by pumping cannon shells directly into the Gripen canopy into the pilots coconut head.

End of a wasteful $68 million expenditure, Swedish rip off !
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lezz:
no, I mean the economy that has been displaced to number 2 with a near stagnant growth - thanks to 0 Zulu imput

agaugust:




Those uniforms are confirmed Turkish uniforms.....Olodo Rabata



@Saengine, you need to kneel down and apologize to me

Last time you were shouting...."Military Researcher who does not know his own country's uniform"

I told you then that foreign trainees do wear special academy uniforms of the country where they train, but since you don't know what a military researcher knows, you played your balls over the bar like a Soweto village mutant, so now apologize to the Nigerian military researcher......say sorry boss
.

jln115:

Are you seriously judging their maneuverability on a video you saw?

And you call yourself a military researcher , yet you never do any research! Your a fvcking disgrace dude!

jln115:

Dude!!! It's already been proved with citations that those are Somalian pilots!

lezz:
Zulu grade IQ is restricted to bestial sensual pleasures and docility

agaugust:


All of them? All of them in different photos? You have I.D. for all the 5 or 6 cadets in 3 different photos from different sources? You have proof that only Somalis train in Turkey, no other Africans?

E-fool
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mzilakazi:
Is it true that Mr Barlow ripped off all Nigeria's revenues at the treasury. Now I have heard on the news that the whole country is broke and will need far more than $50 billion to remain viable in doing its duties and providing services. No money to pay public servants and they are hoping to borrow from Dangote and others. Africa's largest economy has now reduced to the size of Zimbabwe and Somalia. Damn!!!

mzilakazi:


Somalian cadet pilots are currently training in Turkey. Proven with sources.