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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Nobody: 9:54am On Oct 24, 2015
I was born and raised a catholic,was an alter boy for years at a major seminary ,one time even thought I'd be a priest lol,I'd tell you this bro. My questions and convictions took me out of the catholic church,if you do that its like the muslims killing a convert just that in this case u will be a mini outcast,excommunicated kinda,we refered to people who left the faith as "born again people,they say they have seen the light" lol funny tho. My elder sister married a protestant against relatives wills,some people didn't even attend her wedding,and until today some still feels she doesn't "have a marriage" cos it wasn't in the catholic church. So take my cue bro,don't force it,if she's yours she will come by,leaving the catholic cult like faith is only done by conviction no be gra gra. And I'd tell you from experience,DO NOT covert,Catholism as Christianity is questionable,but that's not what this topic is for So I'd leave it at this. Receive Grace to make the right choice.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by lastmessenger: 9:56am On Oct 24, 2015
.you allowed an old man to deny you love.for me is a no no.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by george4CHRIST(m): 9:57am On Oct 24, 2015
If she is truly your wife, she will come back to you. Before I got married my wife was a stunch Catholic while me a pentecostal. But she agreed to follow my own religion. So I believe love conquered everything.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by SpeedyConnect(m): 9:57am On Oct 24, 2015
Oyind17:
Is this a handout or something? Op, were u not taught summary in school? Catchy topic but I'll pass


The papa no be here
You mean you can't read like 500 words yet you want to be a research assistant.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by GeoOla25(m): 9:57am On Oct 24, 2015
I am feeling sleepy...bed time stories
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Nobody: 10:01am On Oct 24, 2015
SpeedyConnect:

You mean you can't read like 500 words yet you want to be a research assistant.
Lol, when was that? didn't u notice I commented about the dad

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Lawsimon(m): 10:02am On Oct 24, 2015
femi4:
So, all the churches mentioned in the Bible never existed?
You must be a joke

the guy is a big joke.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by PreshyG(f): 10:07am On Oct 24, 2015
And that is why it is adviceable to date and marry someone that shares the same faith and doctrine with u. I personally knw my doctrine and dt is why i can't even date a non-catholic, let alone marrying him. My father will not be d one to tell me. Nobody shud quote me pls!

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by teddybear007(f): 10:08am On Oct 24, 2015
fabre4:
Catholics are too close-minded even to their fellow Christians they don't understand the meaning of unity and communal leaving .They are like the Jews in the bible they think faith is based on church and religion.

I wouldn't mind saying u re absolutely right.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by chimaria(f): 10:12am On Oct 24, 2015
Does dat mean pple dat married from same church are all living happily? To me i fhink luv and ur happiness matters.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by tiar: 10:12am On Oct 24, 2015
Gaidenk:
I was born and raised a catholic,was an alter boy for years at a major seminary ,one time even thought I'd be a priest lol,I'd tell you this bro. My questions and convictions took me out of the catholic church,if you do that its like the muslims killing a convert just that in this case u will be a mini outcast,excommunicated kinda,we refered to people who left the faith as "born again people,they say they have seen the light" lol funny tho. My elder sister married a protestant against relatives wills,some people didn't even attend her wedding,and until today some still feels she doesn't "have a marriage" cos it wasn't in the catholic church. So take my cue bro,don't force it,if she's yours she will come by,leaving the catholic cult like faith is only done by conviction no be gra gra. And I'd tell you from experience,DO NOT covert,Catholism as Christianity is questionable,but that's not what this topic is for So I'd leave it at this. Receive Grace to make the right choice.

There are people who have left other churches to the Catholic Church and some who left like you returned many years later AND VICE VERSA. I guess you are fine where you are and the Catholics you left behind are fine where they are.

We all have freedom to do what we want. If God did not give us freedom then, there will be no basis to judge us.

You do not need to bash a girl after dumping her to strengthen or rationalise your position for leaving her behind. If you find out you always have to or tend to, then, it is time to look inward. The problem may just be you and not her. The devil does not have a good story to tell about God banishing him from heaven
He has so MANY NEGATIVE things to say about God to defend his own actions and his justification for doing what he did that led to his banishment. We all know the problem is with the devil and not God. We also know the devil will never see things from this perspective. It is never about US, it is always about THEM.

Best wishes
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Setaje(f): 10:13am On Oct 24, 2015
dumo1:


please tell me this is a joke. I have never heard of such before B cos d average igbo man I know is a catholic.


Am not joking. Don't be deceived. Whether catholic or protestant. Many people have spiritualist they visit. Some of your kinsmen have alfas (islamic cleric) they visit. You think they would come out and tell u the real source of their wealth. U don't want to know how much they have prayed, how many churches they have been to and how many sacrifices they have made. U just see them doing hail Mary and assume it is mother Mary that interceded on their behalf. Lol! This guy is not osu or ohu as u people call it. He is a pure igbo man. I have forgotten where is family compound is in nnewi. I new him through a family friend whose mum was my teacher in primary school. They are also from nnewi. Their family compound is close to each other. They are also cherubim and seraphim. Just pray you don't encounter problems that will push u to places u never imagined u will go.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Spidermon: 10:13am On Oct 24, 2015
All these man made restrictions we place on ourselves....
Depending on how you live your life, God fit no send una at all sef.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by teddybear007(f): 10:13am On Oct 24, 2015
Mekky05:
Its the same way that Protestants/Pentecostal families issue out there own order! I have 1st hand experience and info about this stuff,so Op chin up and go look for a wife. You've opened up this thread for peeps who don't have "wisdom" to start insulting and bashing the Catholic church. The rate at which pentecostal churches breed hate and rage for Catholic leaves much to be desired!

Sorry if I ve to quote u, but truth has to be said. The pentecostal churches ve no issue with d catholics or other denomination but it is d Catholics who thinks that they re more holy dan d other denomination. Gracias.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Lobolintin(m): 10:17am On Oct 24, 2015
if nah me,

i go agree pay and take her home....
come to my house and commnad if i wont lash you out of my house,,mixed marriage ko, mix ediot no
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by airsaylongcon: 10:19am On Oct 24, 2015
Hannysmilez:
Christians and their mini wahala;which one is catholic and protestant again?

They are Christian sects, parts of the same body just like u have Shiites, Sunnis and sufism in Islam

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by vislabraye(m): 10:31am On Oct 24, 2015
Drfinn:
Precisely, on 31st March, 2013 I asked my now ex to marry me. Not in some fancy restaurant, shopping mall or some heaven on earth theatrical setting. It was via a phone call. Surprisingly, we had never met in person! What madness!! Did she accept??

Love they say is like a butterfly, it perches wherever it wants. It's like a lion, it devours whoever that comes his way. How we fall in love at times is mysterious. We seldom have control in matters of the heart. This is how I felt the day I saw her picture carrying a child. Her little nephew. I love kids to a fault. In that split moment I told her how I wished it was our son she was carrying. That remark set aglow our hearts.

Initially, she doubted my sincerity. She had been hurt not once, twice but severally. Worse still she has a medical condition. A condition she erroneously thought will forever rob her of love. Hence her skepticism. Furthermore, my reputation with 'the ladies' on some social network we had met some years earlier was daunting. I had to prove my sincerity. I had to win her love.

As am typing this, my alarm just beeped! Its October 24th- the day I had slated for our introduction. Alas! It was never to be. Our love could not survive the divide. The 'hypocrisy' of the church has prevailed. I cannot believe am still hurting this bad. Maybe I was in a hurry to have ended it all. This is my story. Our story.

After the initial 'gragra' women exhibit we settled into a beautiful but distant relationship. She was based in Lagos, I in Port Harcourt. Days became weeks, and weeks months before our first physical encounter. I did first visit as a gent. We had wild fun!! Then came the moment of truth; a visit to her kit and kin to intimate them of my intention. Her brother-in law gave me his word. The only snag which was to destroy all we labored to build -the church! she is catholic, am protestant. She is Igbo am Ijaw.

True to his word, her brother-in law accompanied me to see her parents in her hometown- some community in Imo State. I was well received. Such a loving home. I made my intentions known with all seriousness. It's no child's play explaining while you consider a man's daughter worth more than other women to him. Thankfully, the son in-law gave me all the necessary support. However, convincing a retired teacher, a respected and unrepentant staunch catholic requires more than fancy words. I left that home with mixed feelings. Her father had plainly told me what mixed marriage entails. My wife and children will become 'properties of the catholic church'. It was non-negotiable.

I sought the advice of family members, and my pastor. All were of the opinion that her father's stance undermines my role as the head of our future family. Personally, I saw it as an 'indirect rule'. I enlisted one or two of her siblings, her mum inclusive to get her father to shift grounds. The old man wouldn't bulge. At my fiancee's suggestion I paid her uncle a scheduled visit. A Priest in some parish at Owerri. His stance was same as his elder brother's; convert to Catholicism or accept the terms of mixed marriage.

I was devastated. More so by my fiancee's shifting positions. Today she's all by my side, tomorrow she wants me to please her father. I saw it more as a character weakness than a woman drawn between love and the hands that fed her. Perhaps, it was a miscalculation on my part. She had her flaws. Mine was so glaring. But i found in her the woman of my dreams.

In the midst of this storm I had boldly gone ahead to fix today, October 24th my introduction day. I had called my Pastor to inform him, and a couple of family members. This decision was informed after my now ex had told me her siblings and other family members had prevailed on her father to soft pedal on his stance. He unbelievably agreed. So i thought. Until I made one more call!

The old man true to his principled nature remained unchanged. It was a blow too devastating to bear. I saw a relationship of over two years with countless sacrifices on both sides evaporate on the grounds of dogma. It hurts so bad to have met that special one only to realize you can not be with them for eternity. Should I have converted for love? That would have betrayed love itself. Love is without condition(s). Should I have settled for mixed marriage? Its unbearable! It's my responsible to provide both spiritual and physical nourishment for my future family.

So, it was only appropriate I let love go. If she finds her way back to me. I had be most fortunate not lucky. Fortune befriends the bold. A life of service to all humanity now beckons . It's a call I must answer. Who knows love maybe around the corner. Love knows no religious boundaries. Let's spread the glad tidings of ecumenism.

Hmmm. Yours is a bit similarbto mine. I'm also Ijaw but I've had crush with Catholic Igbos. Didn't really take it that far because of this factor.
It's good for you to keep your stand. You are going to be the head of the family so you shouldn't start what you can't continue. If you compromise your stand, what else will you compromise ? The lady in question can't really make such sacrifice. Look somewhere else for love.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by tiar: 10:33am On Oct 24, 2015
teddybear007:


Sorry if I ve to quote u, but truth has to be said. The pentecostal churches ve no issue with d catholics or other denomination but it is d Catholics who thinks that they re more holy dan d other denomination. Gracias.

The issue is with you in this case. You are NOT a Catholic and you now speak for them that they think they are more holy. This of course makes you dislike them more because you have spoken for yourself to yourself and then answer yourself.

To be honest as an observer over the years, the protestants (loosely used) were always more fascinated with the Catholics than vice versa. Fascination in the sense that they keep talking about them, bringing up erroneous comments like (they think they are holier) etc while the Catholics did not bother about any other denomination and frankly rarely try to convert anyone. In the other direction there is plenty of interest in converting "those people who think they are holier than us"

Best wishes. Live and let live. The protestants enjoy going on the offensive against Catholics first while the Catholics tend to be on the defense thereof, if they even bother to engage. If the offensive stops then, we can all live and let live. I am not going to hold my breath though. Try to make heaven the way you think best and let others do the same. The path taken to a destination matters though, getting there is the ultimate prize. May God help us all.

Best wishes

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by engrshakespeare: 10:33am On Oct 24, 2015
IamLEGEND1:


pls God had nothing to do with your extreme myopia and close mindedness......... just look at the nónsense you wrote up there and you want to say God made that happen?

"Giving up my faith"...... WTF!!!??

So the girl you were dating wasn't a true Christian like you abi?
since she is not Catholic.

if that is what your church teaches you, then you're just a brainwashed ídiot.



You could have made your point civilly without being so foul mouthed, seems your mouth needs to be thoroughly washed out with soap. undecided
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by IamLEGEND1: 10:41am On Oct 24, 2015
engrshakespeare:


You could have made your point civilly without being so foul mouthed, seems your mouth needs to be thoroughly washed out with soap. undecided

Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Drfinn: 10:45am On Oct 24, 2015
I have read with rapt attention all the replies. No reply is absolutely foolish. Thanks everyone for your comments. Sometimes its good you share a personal experience. Someone out there will learn a thing or two from it. Surprisingly, this personal experience graced the front page!!!lol!

Thanks Fammo, you seem to understand my reasoning. In the Old man's thought, he wants to continue giving his children spiritual nourishment. And that is irrespective of conjugal ties. He has been and still is a marriage counselor in the Catholic church. You can imagine the burden of doing the opposite of what you preach. As regards my ex she got me the more confused. She had once told me that should I accept the terms of mixed marriage, it will be impossible of her to renege.
fammo:
My brother, if the man is not ready to accept to your own terms please move on, love and marriage is not a do or die affair. It will be a failure on your part for your family to be ran based on the dictates of another man, what is d guarantee that principle imposition will only be limited to the church your wife and children will attend? Your fiancee too is not helping matters, when she is truely ready to marry you she will take her stand and face her parent......gals plenty out dia, marry the one dat does not come with terms and conditions.....wish you the best in life
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Kimoni: 10:48am On Oct 24, 2015
TV01 - I read OP's story and I thought of you. Some of the things he said about headship, providing leadership and direction for his family being non-negotiable sounded so like you cheesy 'twas like I was reading from you.

God help the OP, I feel for him. It's sometimes confusing if one should fight for true love in cases like this but I respect and applaud the OP decision based on his reasons.

Lemme read some comments...

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by axhead(m): 10:49am On Oct 24, 2015
tiar:


There are people who have left other churches to the Catholic Church and some who left like you returned many years later AND VICE VERSA. I guess you are fine where you are and the Catholics you left behind are fine where they are.

We all have freedom to do what we want. If God did not give us freedom then, there will be no basis to judge us.

You do not need to bash a girl after dumping her to strengthen or rationalise your position for leaving her behind. If you find out you always have to or tend to, then, it is time to look inward. The problem may just be you and not her. The devil does not have a good story to tell about God banishing him from heaven
He has so MANY NEGATIVE things to say about God to defend his own actions and his justification for doing what he did that led to his banishment. We all know the problem is with the devil and not God. We also know the devil will never see things from this perspective. It is never about US, it is always about THEM.

Best wishes


What a load of rubbish.what kind of brainwashed and confused mindset is this?
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by wagzyl: 10:51am On Oct 24, 2015
Dear OP, don't know if you will get to read this. If the woman in question is the woman of your dreams as you claim, please go back to her, shift grounds and make it work. 99% of guys out there and in this forum may not agree with this and say it is a stupid thing to do, you're not man enough, you're being controlled, blah blah blah........ My brother, you will be surprised how much authority wives, sisters, brothers, parents, etc wield in the lives of those advising you to be "man" enough. it's easy to advise others and play God. In all honesty, I have had fixed dates for introduction and marriage dashed! Was supposed to be married on my birthday, October 2 this year!!!! My Dad changed his faith and joined my mum in the Catholic Church. Don't make a big deal out of this I beg you in God's name. Shift your ground, make things work with the love of your life, shun all those discouragement. No one can ever Control your home on account of your change of faith. They'll rather respect you more and your wife n children will ever cherish you for the length you went to bring them to life. I'm a living testimony.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by nkyblast(f): 10:56am On Oct 24, 2015
If u nid my advice,pple ve gone thru same experience I hv a cousin whose father was a stunch Anglican ( but he is late now),a knight of d church he had 5 daughters and 1 son,for any1 who is seeking to marry his daughters he tells u dat it must be in his church,if u disagree no marriage.so it now happened dat one of his daughter now brought a Catholic man home,d man's pple too a stunch catholic both families were nt ready to shift ground.some now advice dem that d man shd wed in Anglican dat after d marriage her father can't run ur home and dat solved d prblm,dey re happily married and d girl is now a Catholic so u can also do like wise,if u so love d girl agree to dre terms and after dat u tk her to ur church u will be d one to win at last
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Drfinn: 10:56am On Oct 24, 2015
darknez:
You are hurting and for that I empathize with you. My story is strikingly similar to yours. I am based in Lagos, she in PH; I am Catholic, she is technically not a Catholic. Our Introduction was fixed for the 27th of August, 2015 but this was never to be, as today we aren't togethert, and like you, I was crushed by this realisation.

However, a notable difference between you and I is that I have since gone past my hurt and I do not particularly hold anyone or group, be it individuals, Church or family, responsible for our not being together today. I simply took it as God's will. If indeed God had willed that she be my wife, we would still be together today.

The truth is, if you are looking to get married and bring up your children as Protestants, I would advise that you do not waste your time with Catholic ladies who cherish their faith, for it is something that they are prepared to give their life for, let alone give it up so cheaply for the sake of marriage.

I am a Catholic and I do not see myself given up my faith for anyone. It is too precious a gift. Your story is quite sad and from the standpoint of one who has that experience, though in reverse, I understand your hurt perfectly. When I was hurting, I felt physical pains in my heart, for which the scars are still there even though I have gone past it.

Thence, I urge you, in the strongest terms possible, to move on. Moving on is never easy but it brings in its wake, a healing we cannot fathom. Crying over spilt milk is never worth it. Pick yourself up and find love again. This time, get someone you are compatible with in totality, to include a compatibility of faith.

Thanks bro. Its good knowing someone had been in my shoes before. I had my reservations when she told she was catholic. I specifically sought counsel from my Pastor. He gave me the go ahead. In his reasoning, marriage should be based not on religious affiliation but on compatibility, and the ability of both parties to compromise. You can imagine the nightmares when things started unfolding. I had 'abstained' from committed relationships for a year plus with the hope anyone I go into will end in marriage.

I have moved on. But the scars?? Time heal all wounds.

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by RuuDie(m): 10:58am On Oct 24, 2015
dumo1:


what would u have done in his shoes. From my own point of view he has tried enough. you can't change what's already cast in cement.

Very simple... go with the flow, marry the woman FIRST! After she enters HIS HOUSE, then HE TAKES CHARGE!
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by crackhouse(m): 10:59am On Oct 24, 2015
Hannysmilez:
Christians and their mini wahala;which one is catholic and protestant again?
the protestants are protesting the catholics.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by CORRECTMAN78(m): 10:59am On Oct 24, 2015
missyadorable:
This op sounds like a weakling.Gosh!

That is because you've not truely loved anyone. If you have loved someone to heart, not lust, then you would have understood how he feels.

I don't see him as a weakling. But then, he has to put together himself and move on.
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by fammo: 11:00am On Oct 24, 2015
Drfinn:
I have read with rapt attention all the replies. No reply is absolutely foolish. Thanks everyone for your comments. Sometimes its good you share a personal experience. Someone out there will learn a thing or two from it. Surprisingly, this personal experience graced the front page!!!lol!

Thanks Fammo, you seem to understand my reasoning. In the Old man's thought, he wants to continue giving his children spiritual nourishment. And that is irrespective of conjugal ties. He has been and still is a marriage counselor in the Catholic church. You can imagine the burden of doing the opposite of what you preach. As regards my ex she got me the more confused. She had once told me that should I accept the terms of mixed marriage, it will be impossible of her to renege.
I'm glad you found my advice helpful, the truth of this issue is that ur Father-in-Law-to-be has probably chaired some of the meetings where parents who allowed their children marry from outside the church was condemned, it really is not about his principles but more about the fear of being condemned and mocked the way he must have done to other people who allowed their children marry from outside the church. Pls don't let urself be dragged into what does not concern you, if your fiancee truely loves you she'll come around and wake up from her sleep, just stay strong, be a man of principle, don't do anything that will make you less of a man in the name of love......and Pray, I'm sure God will see you through....

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Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by fammo: 11:02am On Oct 24, 2015
RuuDie:


Very simple... go with the flow, marry the woman FIRST! After she enters HIS HOUSE, then HE TAKES CHARGE!
What you can't take charge of before you marry, you will only cause problem with if you attempt to do it after d wedding ceremony....make your stand known on time
Re: October 24th: My Introduction Date That Never Came Through by Nobody: 11:02am On Oct 24, 2015
Boy,the chick no even love you and the situation just saved you from future disappointment-because if she does, you know the rest of the story!

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