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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by moriton(m): 3:10pm On Nov 01, 2015
If you have the time finish reading the book of ecclitiestieies(auto correct?) And you will realise in summary it says that THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS LIFE THAN TO EAT AND DRINK AND MAKE MERRY, working diligently as every other thing is a chasing after the wind.
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Splashy007(m): 3:10pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

Sorry for the lengthy stuff. But there was no way I could have made it short.
I dis agree with dt becos d HOLY GHOST can never dwell in d same vessel with alcohol.1tim 3:3, titus 1:7, prov 20:1, prov 31:4-7. Pls dnt talk urself to Hell. When d bible says perish like prov 31:6 HE means HELL.

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by LordNaya: 3:11pm On Nov 01, 2015
Nicee One !!! Very educative. I hope this dispel the holier than thou attitudes in some christains.

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 3:12pm On Nov 01, 2015
henryutd:
I am a king. Wine and strong drink is not for me.
I am a Nazareth. Wine and strong drink is not for me.
I am filled with Holy Spirit . No space for wine nor SD.
I am wise. Wine and strong drink can't deceive me.

Above all. I don't joke with my eternity. Since wine and strong drinks were not clearly stated in the law, I decided to stop the intake because it can't be compared to life eternal.

Remember : what shall a man give in exchange for his soul. I take everything into consideration. I don't listen to what any man or woman may say not even Pope or my GO. That is my decision. I will stop anything that may stop me.
you're a Nazareth?
I laugh.
You must mean Nazarene.
Anyway, what will you be before you stop eating?
Heard that the world is running out of food!
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Splashy007(m): 3:13pm On Nov 01, 2015
moriton:
If you have the time finish reading the book of ecclitiestieies(auto correct?) And you will realise in summary it says that THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS LIFE THAN TO EAT AND DRINK AND MAKE MERRY, working diligently as every other thing is a chasing after the wind.
Its my birthday how many likes fir me.
Frds pls pay attention to dis information... There is a judge(GOD) dt will judge righteously all men both great and small Rev 6:15-16.
All ur status,pics, likes,shares,tins we read or watch, comments,chatting,text msges,ur dressing,make-up, novels u read.etc will be considered dt day Hebrew 9:27 .
There are only two days to spend here in d world and now it is remaining just a day(heb 9:27) "1st was d day we were born and 2nd d day we die. Remember HE knws d reason why u ar doing d tins u ar doing, HE also knws ur thinking &imaginations. Bro. , sis. Seek to be a BORN AGAIN. Happy sunday u all.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 3:13pm On Nov 01, 2015
Splashy007:
I dis agree with dt becos d HOLY GHOST can never dwell in d same vessel with alcohol.1tim 3:3, titus 1:7, prov 20:1, prov 31:4-7. Pls dnt talk urself to Hell. When d bible says perish like prov 31:6 HE means HELL.
I've seen jokes like you before, especially in the movies.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 3:15pm On Nov 01, 2015
Splashy007:
Frds pls pay attention to dis information... There is a judge(GOD) dt will judge righteously all men both great and small Rev 6:15-16.
All ur status,pics, likes,shares,tins we read or watch, comments,chatting,text msges,ur dressing,make-up, novels u read.etc will be considered dt day Hebrew 9:27 .
There are only two days to spend here in d world and now it is remaining just a day(heb 9:27) "1st was d day we were born and 2nd d day we die. Remember HE knws d reason why u ar doing d tins u ar doing, HE also knws ur thinking &imaginations. Bro. , sis. Seek to be a BORN AGAIN. Happy sunday u all.
...and now to the topic.
I guess you have nothing.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by GRACEGLORY: 3:16pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

you wasted your time on that.
I never said drunkenness is good.
MODERATION!
Thanks.

Moderation grin
The point is not between moderation and drunkenness, the bottom line is intake.

You think I wasted my time on that, but I tell you, hundreds of people have learnt from it.
It's not meant for kings to drink...It is not for kings, Lemuel— Not for kings to drink wine (farmented)... Proverbs 31:4. And the Bible says that we're kings and priests-Revelation 5:10.
I guess you're yet to be a king, please, get a crown in Christ, and stop twisting Scriptures to favor lies.

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Splashy007(m): 3:17pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

you're a Nazareth?
I laugh.
You must mean Nazarene.
Anyway, what will you be before you stop eating?
Heard that the world is running out of food!
pls dnt fight God indirectly becos u'll fail. God will consider every activities online

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Splashy007(m): 3:17pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

you're a Nazareth?
I laugh.
You must mean Nazarene.
Anyway, what will you be before you stop eating?
Heard that the world is running out of food!
pls dnt fight God indirectly becos u'll fail. GOD will consider every activities ONLINE
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by OlayinkaM1(m): 3:19pm On Nov 01, 2015
Well said, but a christian who rinks alcohol at all is missing the whole point σƒ being a christian. Being a christian means you have christ as your role model, and as long as Jesus did not drink alcohol, I don't see any reason a christian should cos a christian literally means little christ.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 3:19pm On Nov 01, 2015
Splashy007:
pls dnt fight God indirectly becos u'll fail. god will consider every activities online
make your own contribution or be quiet young man.
Nairaland ain't for the sanctimonious!
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by henryutd(m): 3:20pm On Nov 01, 2015
muhammed10:
The bible encourages one to drink alcohol ..give drink to those who are foolish let dem drink and forget there sorrow

Narrow is the way...
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 3:20pm On Nov 01, 2015
OlayinkaM1:
Well said, but a christian who rinks alcohol at all is missing the whole point σƒ being a christian. Being a christian means you have christ as your role model, and as long as Jesus did not drink alcohol, I don't see any reason a christian should cos a christian literally means little christ.
from your comment it's clear you didn't read the post.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by GRACEGLORY: 3:27pm On Nov 01, 2015
moriton:
If you have the time finish reading the book of ecclitiestieies(auto correct?) And you will realise in summary it says that THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS LIFE THAN TO EAT AND DRINK AND MAKE MERRY, working diligently as every other thing is a chasing after the wind.
Its my birthday how many likes fir me.

That's cos you don't know that book was written by Solomon after he had lost the wisdom of GOD due to immoralities. So, all became vanity to him. You think God wasted His time to create vanity, and still wasting His time to restore vanity, or you think Jesus, died for vanity sake?
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by GRACEGLORY: 3:31pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

you're a Nazareth?
I laugh.
You must mean Nazarene.
Anyway, what will you be before you stop eating?
Heard that the world is running out of food!

It doesn't matter the mistake, we understand what the brother mean after all.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by otiigba1(m): 3:41pm On Nov 01, 2015
Ovaiegbe:


Hahahahaha.... your assertion is laughable. God created the atlantic ocean, why don't we all jump into it. You may know some poisonous plant too, so why don't we eat them because God created them. Everything has a purpose in God and cannabis surely is being abused by people.
exactly! My point, every one chooses the part of the bible/christianity/religion that justifies their way of life. Why don't we go full on and live by the bibles/christianity way? Even terrorists claim they are doing it for God.

JUst because i smoke weed or sell it does not make me the worst of human. People like you claiming the moral high ground. angry
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by totoakins(m): 3:48pm On Nov 01, 2015
the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’
Luke 7:34
Jesus himself took wine and alcoholic wine for that matter the above scripture says so or why would ppl call him a drunkard besides
the bible says in deturonomy 14:26
When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want--cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and celebrate with your household.
I hope this puts the discussion about alcohol to rest
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by tudeyzamani: 4:02pm On Nov 01, 2015
Sipping my spirit..no longtin
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by XaintJoel20: 4:15pm On Nov 01, 2015
Thanks a million for this well articulated and detailed article. Though I don't consume alcohol, I have never and will never condemn people that drink on religious ground. The only reason I think people should not take alcohol (minimal or not) is on health ground.
I'm saving this in my archives...
Thanks once again...

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Tonynelson(m): 4:19pm On Nov 01, 2015
Pentecostals oya come tell catholics say drinking na sin, even to go marry wife una go carry only mineral say Bible talk say achohol na Sin. I laugh una because u hv been hypnotized. Ehyaa a ndonu OOO. OP WELLDONE winkPentecostals oya come tell catholics say drinking na sin, even to go marry wife una go carry only mineral say Bible talk say achohol na Sin. I laugh una because u hv been hypnotized. Ehyaa a ndonu OOO. OP WELLDONE

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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by So4baba(m): 4:43pm On Nov 01, 2015
Splashy007:
I dis agree with dt becos d HOLY GHOST can never dwell in d same vessel with alcohol.1tim 3:3, titus 1:7, prov 20:1, prov 31:4-7. Pls dnt talk urself to Hell. When d bible says perish like prov 31:6 HE means HELL.
Sir you quoted 1 Tim 3:3,,did you check 1 Tim 3:8....check and let's discuss it
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by So4baba(m): 4:45pm On Nov 01, 2015
GRACEGLORY:


That's cos you don't know that book was written by Solomon after he had lost the wisdom of GOD due to immoralities. So, all became vanity to him. You think God wasted His time to create vanity, and still wasting His time to restore vanity, or you think Jesus, died for vanity sake?
Sir, all books are written by the inspiration of God and none was written by the mere imagination or infatuation of man.. So pls do not blaspheme.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by OlayinkaM1(m): 4:47pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

from your comment it's clear you didn't read the post.

I did
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by InvertedHammer: 4:53pm On Nov 01, 2015
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Ephesians, Corinthians, Nazarites.

For sure I didn't see Nigeria on the list.

So drink your alcohol and make merry.

Keyword: moderation.

As sweet as sugar is, it can still kill.
As refreshing as water is, it can still kill.
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Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Nobody: 4:54pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:

Hahaha.
Poor logic.
I guess you know gluttony is still a sin.
So in order not to commit gluttony, don't eat, lest you keep eating, and eating and eating and....
Smh.
sickeningly poor! Jeez!
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by tunde233(m): 4:54pm On Nov 01, 2015
LEGALAide:


it is clear that a "little" wine is good for you.
Anything done in moderation ( I mean any good thing, because wine is good) ain't bad.
Take little food, good.
Take a spoon too many, gluttony!

@OP here is my disagreement: As you will remember that Aaronic priesthood which metamorphosed into Levitical priesthood does not not allow for wine. (See Leviticus 10: 19) You need to study more why God killed the two sons of Aaron. More importantly Christ has redeemed us as Kings and Priest according to the Epistle of Peter. Except you can show me clearly from the Scripture where priests are allowed to drink wine. I completely disagree with you. Your position is to justify drinking. You and I know that in exegesis principle of Hermeneutics must fully come to play. Let us be careful of what we suggest to people
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by OlayinkaM1(m): 5:00pm On Nov 01, 2015
totoakins:
the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’
Luke 7:34
Jesus himself took wine and alcoholic wine for that matter the above scripture says so or why would ppl call him a drunkard besides
the bible says in deturonomy 14:26
When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want--cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the LORD your God and celebrate with your household.
I hope this puts the discussion about alcohol to rest

Stop mis-interpreting d bible bro, according to whr u quote jesus was being accused σƒ being a drunkard wen dey didn't knw wat he's drinking either is it wine or water. If jesus had drink wine or alcoholic wine, all His disciple would have done d same after he's no more wit dem. Only peter drank wine and it's for health reason, so don't come here and be misleading pple
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Princewell2012(m): 5:20pm On Nov 01, 2015
GRACEGLORY:


Moderation grin
The point is not between moderation and drunkenness, the bottom line is intake.

You think I wasted my time on that, but I tell you, hundreds of people have learnt from it.
It's not meant for kings to drink...It is not for kings, Lemuel— Not for kings to drink wine (farmented)... Proverbs 31:4. And the Bible says that we're kings and priests-Revelation 5:10.
I guess you're yet to be a king, please, get a crown in Christ, and stop twisting Scriptures to favor lies.

Hmmmm .. you mean kings doesn't take wine really
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by Jdtester: 5:28pm On Nov 01, 2015
Really deep thoughts. This topic will never be solved as you will always have people supporting either side.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by eddiebomba(m): 5:34pm On Nov 01, 2015
OlayinkaM1:
Well said, but a christian who rinks alcohol at all is missing the whole point σƒ being a christian. Being a christian means you have christ as your role model, and as long as Jesus did not drink alcohol, I don't see any reason a christian should cos a christian literally means little christ.

Typically myopic close-minded response from someone who has 'Church mind' but doesn't have the mind of Christ -they're not one and the same thing.

I have to say, the op who created this thread is a true student of the Word - someone who has taken time to find out the mind of Christ concerning this unnecessarily controversial topic. It's a thread that has exposed the skewed, unbalanced, unscriptural (even, dare I say, heretical) mindset of most self-acclaimed Christian abstainers.

This issue of alcohol consumption is a real bitter point of misunderstanding in the Church. Because with all the scriptural references he gave on why the drinking of wine is not necessarily sinful, there are still some narrow-minded, sanctimonious holier-than-thous who'll insist otherwise - according to their own misguided, man-made, unscriptural doctrines.

For the record, I will say this as a born-again Christian with a confident, even if imperfect, understanding of Scripture: Anyone in Christendom advocating total abstinence from alcohol as the only right approach for a Christian is doing nothing but preaching HERESY!

To start with: Jesus' miracle at Cana. For anyone to advocate that it was nothing more than non-alcoholic fruit juice shows how deluded they must be to be propagating this error. The Bible made it clear from the statement of the head steward at the wedding - no doubt an experienced wine taster himself - that the wine that Jesus provided was of superior quality to the vintage that had run out. Tell me, could that possibly have been said about 'ordinary fruit juice'? Or are you implying that those of us who believe otherwise are saying that by providing the wine, Jesus was giving His approval to drunkenness? If you really think so, then sorry to sound harsh, but there's more hope for foolish drunkards than there is for you.

Then there's Jesus himself, who describes himself as "the Son of man who came eating and drinking", as opposed to John the Baptist who did neither - surely that's enough evidence to show that he too was a partaker of the fruit of the vine. They called him, the Lamb without blemish, a drunkard & a glutton - would you call him that as well cos he too drank alcohol? Or are you saying that self-discipline in the use of alcohol is impossible, so it's better not to touch the stuff? Like the apostle Paul said in 1 Cor. 6:12, " 'All things are lawful unto me' - but I will not be held under the power of any".

To me, those who are offended by others exercising their God-given right to partake of alcohol & its benefits, are afflicted by a mental malaise; not one of sincere concern for the welfare of their fellow man, but that of self righteousness - the pride that deceives them into thinking their own personal choices apply to everyone, along with the un-Christian hostility towards those who don't agree with them. Those are the same people who called Jesus drunkard & glutton, & doubtless theyll call those of us who adhere to this truth the same words. Well, personally my attitude is, if that's the case with me (& btw I'm also a moderate drinker who knows better than to take alcohol to excess for any reason) then I sure am glad & humbled to be in the company of my Lord.
Re: Alcohol: good Or Evil. What The Bible Really Says. by suyamasta(m): 6:03pm On Nov 01, 2015
to me o drinking alcohol is no sin as long as its not excessive!

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