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hismail1:
Mexico coach slams Nigeria, Mali as age cheats
Apparently stunned by the artistry of defending champions, Golden Eaglets in the on-going FIFA U-17 World Cup in Chile, former Mexico U-17 coach, Raul Gutierrez has accused the Nigerian wonder-kids of doing things no real U-17 player could do with the ball.
He did not spare Mali too as he claimed that the two African teams in Chile could not possibly be U-17 players.

Raul Gutierrez
Gutiérrez was in charge when the 2013 set of Eaglets beat Mexico twice en-route to being crowned champions in the United Arab Emirates.
And while the Golden Eaglets have been outstanding at the ongoing tournament in Chile, Gutiérrez suggests that there is much to meet the eye as he posited that the Eaglets aside their physical attributes take decisions that are not expected of true U-17 players.
Gutiérrez also made same accusation against the Mali team that have also booked their place in the semi final.
“It’s the same with the Nigeria team, so with Mali, that beyond their physical development, decisions made by many of their players are not of an U-17 player’’ the coach told mediotiempo.com.
Despite his fears, Gutiérrez said he believes Mexico can beat Nigeria when both countries meet in the semi-finals on Thursday (12a.m. Friday, Nigeria time), but admitted that it will be difficult. “Sure we can beat them. I think Mexico can have a good result on Thursday.
“In football nothing is written, everyone already knows that the game will be complex. We will face an opponent with a winning record, but you must play the game, the matches are defined on the field and we have to think that way,” says Gutiérrez.

vanguardngr.com/2015/11/mexico-coach-slams-nigeria-mali-as-age-cheats/

Icon4s:
Look young man. No body is butt-licking here. What we are preaching here is tolerance. Safarigirl and I do nt usually agree on most issues bt that doesn't mean we are not friends. As TheGoodJoe rightly said in one of his posts u need to undertstand people on how dey talk or articulate their points. I dnt think anyone on these sports threads has received more jabs from Safarigirl than myself. I even noticed at a pt she was ignoring my comments and nt responding when i expect her to bt I jst knew it is one of those things abt ladies. They are really fun to b with.

Whether u like it or nt There are peeps that make this sports section fun and she is one of them.

And yes we pamper her bc she is the First Lady of the Sports section.

bigblangston:
Young man! I knw u will reply me dat was why I stuck around. Wit people lik her too many people have left this honorable thread. I come to hear to read latest news concerning our boys whic I knw dat was the primary reason for this thread ie to be illuminated bt not to trade banter wit an unknown individual. Let's restore sanctity to this thread and encourage others to ve their say here on this thread, if u re concerned abt chicks commenting,I knw many chicks dat come to read bt leaves the thread for fear of e-duels. I don't butt lick, I giv it to people as it is hot bt there re times I tell myself I don't knw who I may be blasting, d person may be related to dangote and who knws if its dat person u bashed that will take u to d top in life. When I see her bashing people I cringe and when she's been served she comes playin d victim card and typin dat because she's female in a male dominated thread dat was why she's been victimised then butt lickers will come to her rescue. *pukes*

BascoVanVeli:
Look u can either insult her back or ignore her, that is what you would do if she were a man so don't run a campaign about the issue and in turn victimize yourself. She doesn't have to be like anyone else, who cares if other girls just read but don't comment alot of guys also do the same thing but that doesn't stop u from interacting. Neither of u should have to leave because u guys can disagree on everything else but u support the same Nigeria so for Buhari's sake move on my brother be the bigger man. BTW I predict 4-0 Nigeria.

eterisan:
thumbs up! But Oga abeg let's talk about u 17. Me thinks enough bashing already

terzurum5:
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Amuneke says Eaglets will avoid Chile ‘87 debacle
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The city of Concepción and Estadio Municipal has gone down in the history of Nigerian football as the venue where the country’s star-studded U-20 squad of 1987 met their waterloo following a humiliating 4-0 loss to Brazil at the FIFA U-20 World Cup Chile 1987.

Twenty-eight years after what was called the ‘Chile Debacle’ by a section of the Nigerian media, the Golden Eaglets will hoist the Nigerian flag in Concepción yet again for a crunch semi-final match against Mexico at the on –going FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015, with the winner guaranteed a slot in the final match slated for Sunday in Vina del Mar.

Speaking to thenff.com, coach Emmanuel Amuneke said the unfortunate loss by the Flying Eagles 28 years ago in Concepción will be an added motivation to guide the Golden Eaglets against defeat to the Baby El Tri on Thursday.

“Sincerely, I can’t remember anything about Chile 1987 and I don’t want to be bothered about that,” said the straight –talking 1994 African Footballer of the Year about the Nigeria-Brazil clash of October 11, 1987. “But that said, we can’t afford to lose (at the same venue) to Mexico and this is an important game for us.”

Nigeria and Mexico have only met thrice at the FIFA U-17 World Cup, with the Baby El Tri claiming a 1-0 win in a group phase match at Canada 1987 while the Golden Eaglets had the upper hand twice in 2013, when they walloped the Mexicans 6-1 and 3-0 in the group phase and the championship’s Final Match respectively.

Amuneke reckons that the Golden Eaglets must, therefore, be at their best against the Baby El Tri who will be hard pressed to avenge their losses at the last tournament in the United Arab Emirates.

“The Mexicans are a very good side and their performance so far at Chile 2015 is an indication that they have a very solid structure back home,” he said. “But we are working to ensure that the players are mentally ready for this big match.”

Meanwhile, Amuneke was honoured on Tuesday with an award by the Chiguayante community in Concepcion. The award, according to the organisers, was in recognition of the Golden Eaglets’ Head Coach’s feat in leading a team to qualify for the FIFA U-17 World Cup Chile 2015.

PAST ENCOUNTERS
July 16, 1987: Nigeria 0:1Mexico
October 19, 2013: Mexico 1:6 Nigeria
November 8, 2013: Nigeria 3:0 Mexico
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thenationonlineng.net/amuneke-says-eaglets-will-avoid-chile-87-debacle/
CC: Sir Icon4s, Thegoodjoe, tell us more about this Chile 87 Debacle.

bigblangston:
Young Man! Yea I read about those jabs given to u by her bt u r probably used to her mayb dats one of d fruits of d spirit that is to tolerate BS on a faceless forum but as for me I aint tolerating BS even frm my family (d closest thing to me) not to talk frm a faceless forum wher we don't knw who is who... U keep pampering her after she must had typed heavy punchlines to annihilate anyone who has a contrary view dat differs frm her just because she is a female (iron lady) and u said u aint butt licking, Young man! Wat u r doin wit ur pampering is to encourage her to throw more jabs at people because people lik u will pamper her, to avoid people throwin jabs at me I seldom comment here because if u throw jabs at me I give it to u in multiple folds. Anyways keep d news abt d U 17 comin because after this tournament we will all migrate to d U23 thread so why shud we insult one another when we re nt gonna be on this thread forever.

TheGoodJoe:
I am asking you to discuss in line of the discussion. You have done this many times. CR7 shouts at himself and hits his head when he plays poorly and he shouts at his team mates when they are wrong. Steven Gerard used to do it a lot.

It is not a bad habit when you are spurring your players on. You can not equate shouting at your players to do better to being silly on the field by biting an opponent.

You are using a different point to make the point stick and it makes me repeat myself again. They are not the same. CR7 is trying to spur his team mates to better themselves. Just as he pushes himself to achieve the extra ordinary.

Luis Suarez and Diego Costa do their tantrums at the detriment of their teams. They are totally different points.

TheGoodJoe:
Darkness can not take away darkness. Blasting anyone to chase the person out of the thread is not the way to change the person's attitude.

If you are subtle, the person will notice and stop.

Most times, the e-fights go on during the tournament proper, when the teams of the threads are playing. The regulars here hardly have these duels.

She sometimes get hurt. That is enough to pull your leg of the throttle. Blasting her and telling others to let her leave is not ideal.

This is a relationship that span for years.

I remember arguing with her about Nacho joining City. That is almost two years ago. Telling her to leave will mean losing a long term understanding.

I do not think blasting her will encourage other ladies to stay.

TheSuperNerd:
Abeg ooo..... No be this nite oo.....*smiles*

Oga Tomtoxic, wetin na? Na time machine u use enter future go view am?

**smiles**

BascoVanVeli:
We can take a look at our past debates it was the same thing, u are always right no matter what, u said Bony sucks but now he is banging in goals, u said don't bring up Manu but now we find out this are mostly his boys. I rather trade compliments than have an argument that is going nowhere. Luis Suarez is the best striker in the world, fact. U cannot compare faults and say one person has better faults than the other, they are both faults and I even credit Suarez more because he has totally changed, not one single incident since his return

Nashoji:
do you want to know how easy it is to know a Barcelona fan? just bring up topic(s) about Ronaldo. I never knew from Adam that you are a barcelona and messi fan, but your comments about ronaldo gave me the clue that you are one and I'm not wrong.

OMG, who are you to tell any player how to celebrate his/her goal? so, wild celebration now equate bad personality? ronaldo have the right to celebrate his goals any how he wants (even if it means jumping down from ten storey building), there is no law restricting him from any kind of celebration as far as it is not in front of opposition fans... going by your judgement, balotelli and joey Barton are great role models to young stars because they don't celebrate like ronaldo whenever they score.

how do you know that ronaldo's habit is bad? oh I almost forget that you now know who have a bad habit by mere watching them on the screen of television. I guess patience ozokwor is the worst mother or mother inlaw to live with and chiwetala agu must have killed the whole people in his village judging by what they do on the screen. bros, just forget that one, you simply don't like Ronaldo. period.

bigblangston:
duly noted bro, thanks!! Bt u guys closed to her shud tell her to take it easy on people when typing, she shud be considerate. Keep ur analysis coming, u made me a follower of this thread bt u r too biased when it comes to city whic is nt good for a gud sport analyst lik ursef, they must be neutral. They must nt shw dey ve an affinity to a club. My best city player ever is elano!! Been following city since d days of shinawatra bt I'm a gooner

Icon4s:
Hmmm Chile '87. I will never forget. That tourney was Nigeria's worst participation at any FIFA organised youth competition.

Nigeria won the maiden FIFA U16 tourney (yes U16 then) in 1985. Two years later was Chile 87. A couple of the former U16 boys were promoted to play an U21 tourney (yes U21 then) 2 yrs later.What we had was 17 & 18 yrs olds having to compete with 20 & 21 yrs olds from d rest of d world. Notable Players from d former U16: Sani Adamu, Nduka Ugbade, Jonathan Akpoborie, Victor Igbinoba (my then favorite), Lucky Agbons and co. This crop was joined by some Nigerian League players notably: Etim Esin (African Maradona, then was at d edge of signing for AA Gent of Belgium), Thompson Oliha (Green Eagles midfield maestro before JJ Okocha), Peter Nieketen(one of the most celebrated young players in d Nigerian league.Playing for one of those Lagos clubs; either ACB or Stationery stores)Willy Okpara and a host of others.

We thought we had a star studded team.

Earlier in the year Nigeria won silver at d U17 WC in Canada. Hopes were high that we can do it again. Remembering also dat we finished 3rd at the 1985 FIFA U21.

Nigeria was placed in a group of death: Brazil, Italy, Canada and Nigeria.

Our first game was against Brazil. Omo i say Brazil wan kill us. We were so outplayed in that first half and conceded 2goals. Second half Nigeria came back better but still conceded 2 more goals. It ended 4-0 in favour of Brazil. Oh I didn't feel like going to school the next day.

Our next game was against Italy and we lost 2-0. We only managed a 2-2 draw against Canada in the last grp game.

Well, Amuneke said he cannot remember anything about Chile '87. Very possible.Aside from being very young then Amuneke and I grew up in the same neighbourhood where only very few families owned a TV set. Our house was always full with neighbours coming to watch matches. I dnt think Amuneke's father owned a TV set (No ridicle meant). My Dad was a real football follower.He indoctrinated me into it.

Some peeps hu can cast their minds back to the U20 thread can remember i kept mentioning Chile '87 episode. The same issue of going to an U20 tourney with predominantly 17 &18 yrs olds.Even having to play Brazil again in our opening match which we still lost against but by 4-2(1st time we will b scoring against Brazil at U20). Before na always 4-0., 3-0, 2-0 & once 0-0.


So that is d Chile '87 memory o. Still fresh in my head. Just like yesterday.

BascoVanVeli:
We can take a look at our past debates it was the same thing, u are always right no matter what, u said Bony sucks but now he is banging in goals, u said don't bring up Manu but now we find out this are mostly his boys. I rather trade compliments than have an argument that is going nowhere. Luis Suarez is the best striker in the world, fact. U cannot compare faults and say one person has better faults than the other, they are both faults and I even credit Suarez more because he has totally changed, not one single incident since his return

hismail1:
Mexico coach slams Nigeria, Mali as age cheats
Apparently stunned by the artistry of defending champions, Golden Eaglets in the on-going FIFA U-17 World Cup in Chile, former Mexico U-17 coach, Raul Gutierrez has accused the Nigerian wonder-kids of doing things no real U-17 player could do with the ball.
He did not spare Mali too as he claimed that the two African teams in Chile could not possibly be U-17 players.

Raul Gutierrez
Gutiérrez was in charge when the 2013 set of Eaglets beat Mexico twice en-route to being crowned champions in the United Arab Emirates.
And while the Golden Eaglets have been outstanding at the ongoing tournament in Chile, Gutiérrez suggests that there is much to meet the eye as he posited that the Eaglets aside their physical attributes take decisions that are not expected of true U-17 players.
Gutiérrez also made same accusation against the Mali team that have also booked their place in the semi final.
“It’s the same with the Nigeria team, so with Mali, that beyond their physical development, decisions made by many of their players are not of an U-17 player’’ the coach told mediotiempo.com.
Despite his fears, Gutiérrez said he believes Mexico can beat Nigeria when both countries meet in the semi-finals on Thursday (12a.m. Friday, Nigeria time), but admitted that it will be difficult. “Sure we can beat them. I think Mexico can have a good result on Thursday.
“In football nothing is written, everyone already knows that the game will be complex. We will face an opponent with a winning record, but you must play the game, the matches are defined on the field and we have to think that way,” says Gutiérrez.

vanguardngr.com/2015/11/mexico-coach-slams-nigeria-mali-as-age-cheats/

TheGoodJoe:
[b]As I said, you are an expert in making things up. I can never say Bony sucks. I respect the technical director of the Citizens Txiki and Pellegrini so much to argue with them. I do not know jack about football compared to these men.

Even when Bony is having a poor run, I trust in the brilliance and the management of Man City to know that I am not seeing everything. Just like for instance, I prefer skillful, mobile players like Silva, Nacho, Nasri, Aguero and to an extent De Bruyne.

However, The City executives prefer Technical players that are not too mobile and fast like Toure, Fernando, Javi Garcia who left, Bony. Even our Wing backs are more on the technical side, like Sagna and Kolarov. I prefer Zabaletta and Clichy. I wish we could get Bellerin instead of keeping Sagna.

But, I trust the judgement of our coaches and staffs over my knowledge. I prefer Nacho to Bony, when Bony plays, he makes mistakes I believe Nacho will do better. I trust our team's management to believe there is a reason they bought Bony that I can not see.

Please check my comments, I hardly criticise City players, let alone saying Bony sucks. It is not true, I never said that.[/b]

AIG07:
good one from you Sir. Icon4s
thanks for this insightful piece.
But seriously Amuneke has proved most nigerians wrong including me. going into this tourney no one ever gave him to go far like this considering his performance at d african stage.
We all hope d eaglets re-write history @d stadio. Goodluck to d lads. Sir Mikron i salutes you where ever u de.

BascoVanVeli:
Well just forget everything else i said and defend urself on one issue, I am done with this issue this thread is about our boys not you or I.

terzurum5:
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Pinnick: Amuneke has earned our respect
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NFF President Amaju Pinnick will be with the Golden Eaglets when they take on Mexico in the FIFA U-17 World Cup semi-finals on Thursday.

The NFF boss departed on Monday evening, following the Eaglets’ 3-0 thrashing of three –time winners Brazil in the quarter -finals on Sunday.

“I am very excited with the way the team has played so far, raising our country’s flag very high. The head coach, Emmanuel Amuneke has shown tremendous maturity and has managed the team and everything around it brilliantly.

“Amuneke is the kind of person you would naturally recommend for higher responsibilities. He has clearly rubbished all insinuations and dark innuendoes against him and has continued to do a marvelous job quietly. He has earned his respect.”

The Eaglets take on Mexico’s U-17 at the 30,000 –capacity Estadio Municipal Ester Roa in Concepcion, with the prospect of a second –ever all-African final looming large in the South American nation.

Mean and miserly (in terms of goals conceded so far – only one) Mali take on Belgium (the only European team left in contention) in Vina del Mar, which has become a home of sort to the Golden Eaglets and will host Sunday’s final.

Mali and Belgium play the first semi final, starting from 5pm (9pm Nigeria time), before the Nigeria, Mexico clash that will again kick off at midnight in Nigeria.

On Monday, NFF Deputy General Secretary, Emmanuel Ikpeme arrived in Chile to join the high–flying Golden Eaglets.
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thenationonlineng.net/pinnick-amuneke-has-earned-our-respect/

TheGoodJoe:
[b]
I honestly agree with you on the part of my biasness when it concerns City. That is why I consider myself first a Citizen before an analyst.

I hardly see faults in what we do. I will work on that but I assure you, it will be hard.

Sorry about the defeat yesterday, you guys met Bayern on their best day. The more you spend time here, the more we get to understand our differences.

When Icon4s became a regular commenter on the football threads, I hated his guts and sometimes skipped his comments. But now, I appreciate his comments and look forward to them. He is always on the opposing view when we start off but later his opposing view somehow merges with the others.

Thanks for reminding me of that great player Elano. He was brilliant. I wished it worked out for him and Mancini but Mancini had other plans. Elano was what I termed a matured player. He always knew the right thing to do on the pitch.

My best Arsenal player of all time is Henry, IGWE!!!

Followed by Kanu Nwankwo and then Patrick Veira. Ashley Cole was awesome along with Lauren.[/b]

TheGoodJoe:
When I read a post, if I see something I do not agree with, most times, I comment on it and post. I go back after the post to continue reading to find out what I agree or disagree with. That is why it looks as if I am defending myself from only one thing you said.

hismail1:
Mexico coach slams Nigeria, Mali as age cheats
Apparently stunned by the artistry of defending champions, Golden Eaglets in the on-going FIFA U-17 World Cup in Chile, former Mexico U-17 coach, Raul Gutierrez has accused the Nigerian wonder-kids of doing things no real U-17 player could do with the ball.
He did not spare Mali too as he claimed that the two African teams in Chile could not possibly be U-17 players.

Raul Gutierrez
Gutiérrez was in charge when the 2013 set of Eaglets beat Mexico twice en-route to being crowned champions in the United Arab Emirates.
And while the Golden Eaglets have been outstanding at the ongoing tournament in Chile, Gutiérrez suggests that there is much to meet the eye as he posited that the Eaglets aside their physical attributes take decisions that are not expected of true U-17 players.
Gutiérrez also made same accusation against the Mali team that have also booked their place in the semi final.
“It’s the same with the Nigeria team, so with Mali, that beyond their physical development, decisions made by many of their players are not of an U-17 player’’ the coach told mediotiempo.com.
Despite his fears, Gutiérrez said he believes Mexico can beat Nigeria when both countries meet in the semi-finals on Thursday (12a.m. Friday, Nigeria time), but admitted that it will be difficult. “Sure we can beat them. I think Mexico can have a good result on Thursday.
“In football nothing is written, everyone already knows that the game will be complex. We will face an opponent with a winning record, but you must play the game, the matches are defined on the field and we have to think that way,” says Gutiérrez.

vanguardngr.com/2015/11/mexico-coach-slams-nigeria-mali-as-age-cheats/

Icon4s:
Hmmm Chile '87. I will never forget. That tourney was Nigeria's worst participation at any FIFA organised youth competition.

Nigeria won the maiden FIFA U16 tourney (yes U16 then) in 1985. Two years later was Chile 87. A couple of the former U16 boys were promoted to play an U21 tourney (yes U21 then) 2 yrs later.What we had was 17 & 18 yrs olds having to compete with 20 & 21 yrs olds from d rest of d world. Notable Players from d former U16: Sani Adamu, Nduka Ugbade, Jonathan Akpoborie, Victor Igbinoba (my then favorite), Lucky Agbons and co. This crop was joined by some Nigerian League players notably: Etim Esin (African Maradona, then was at d edge of signing for AA Gent of Belgium), Thompson Oliha (Green Eagles midfield maestro before JJ Okocha), Peter Nieketen(one of the most celebrated young players in d Nigerian league.Playing for one of those Lagos clubs; either ACB or Stationery stores) Willy Okpara and a host of others.

We thought we had a star studded team.

Earlier in the year Nigeria won silver at d U17 WC in Canada. Hopes were high that we can do it again. Remembering also dat we finished 3rd at the 1985 FIFA U21.

Nigeria was placed in a group of death: Brazil, Italy, Canada and Nigeria.

Our first game was against Brazil. Omo i say Brazil wan kill us. We were so outplayed in that first half and conceded 2goals. Second half Nigeria came back better but still conceded 2 more goals. It ended 4-0 in favour of Brazil. Oh I didn't feel like going to school the next day.

Our next game was against Italy and we lost 2-0. We only managed a 2-2 draw against Canada in the last grp game.

Well, Amuneke said he cannot remember anything about Chile '87. Very possible.Aside from being very young then Amuneke and I grew up in the same neighbourhood where only very few families owned a TV set. Our house was always full with neighbours coming to watch matches. I dnt think Amuneke's father owned a TV set (No ridicle meant). My Dad was a real football follower.He indoctrinated me into it.

Some peeps hu can cast their minds back to the U20 thread can remember i kept mentioning Chile '87 episode. The same issue of going to an U20 tourney with predominantly 17 &18 yrs olds.Even having to play Brazil again in our opening match which we still lost against but by 4-2(1st time we will b scoring against Brazil at U20). Before na always 4-0., 3-0, 2-0 & once 0-0.


So that is d Chile '87 memory o. Still fresh in my head. Just like yesterday.

BascoVanVeli:
Honestly i don't want Amunike promoted he should get a raise and continue his good work, he can end up being a legendary coach at this level who brings us talented players that will make our main squad.