vooks:


The witch was a MEDIUM to contact the dead, she was the means. Do you think if Saul contacted Samuel directly he'd have lived ?

Start thinking you necromancer. Hell is beckoning.

If he had contacted Samuel through the power of God, he'd have lived.

vooks:


Fool, the witch consulted a living Saint (Samuel) for Saul. Supposing he witch was day a domestic servant for Samuel and she sent and called Samuel from his room. Do you think Saul pull have erred in contacting a living Samuel through the witch.

Grow a brain you negro Neanderthal

So now you say Saints are alive...

Why can't we talk to them then, like Jesus did?

italo:


So now you say Saints are alive...

Why can't we talk to them then, like Jesus did?

The same reasons Jesus resurrects us on the last day and you can't Negro

He is God, Creator and you are a mere creature

italo:


If he had contacted Samuel through the power of God, he'd have lived.

Except God won't suffer nobody to contact the dead by any means

italo:


Prove the bold!

Samuel is alive.

What is the purpose of resurrection?

italo:


You have forgotten that Christ is in me and I am in Chriso Christ in me can speak to the saints and I can speak to the saints through Christ.

Christ in you does not make you God you fool

italo:


1. The bold is false...it doesn't apply in all cases.

do you agree it's false...or do you want me to take the paint to prove you wrong and ignorant of what you're talking about?

Make my day. The fact that you not only talk to the dead but you invoke their 'powers' to affect the earth means Catholicism is satanism

2. When protestants demonize canonization, it's not just the prayers to saints that they demonize...they demonize the very act of declaring that the person lived a good life and died right with God and is in heaven...which Adeboye has now done. focus on that.[/quote{
Buffoonery incarnate. Christians believe in eternal life. If I die now, I will be in heaven. This is not canonization. Paul himself tells us to be absent in the body is to be with Christ. Canonization is not belief that somebody is in Heaven but rather reserving the RIGHT to decide who is in heaven and who is not followed by encouraging fools like you to pray to those deemed to be in heaven

[quote]If Adeboye hasn't prayed and received a miracle from Awolowo, perhaps that's because those are not the essence of canonization.

He worships the living God so he can't engage I. Necromancy

Please provide the link to catholic site that talks about cannonization, so I can compare with your quote.

italo:


It will help you understand if you put aside the appellation: "saint," and focus on the essence of the issue

At Canonization, Catholic declare that a person has lived a good life and was right with God when he/she died...so he/she is now in heaven

this has been condemned by pentecostals for decades. They say the pope has no right to claim that Mother Theresa is in heaven.

Now that is the exact thing that Adeboye has done. He has 'Canonized' 'St. Awolowo' in the Catholic sense...which pentecostals have condemned for long

That is the issue you are deviating from.

vooks:

Christ in you does not make you God you fool

It makes God to be in me and I in God.

So God in me can talk to his saints...and I can talk to the saints by God in me.

This catholic dudes are so funny. So jesus spoke to the dead? Elijah and Moses are dead now?
Sorry folk, Moses and Elijah are not dead, that's why they'll return to this earth as the two witnessein Rev 11, to be killed by the anti-christ.
So all this obituaries declearing their loved ones to be in the bosom of the lord are canonising their dead.
There is a Word here VENERATION. Catholics venerate the dead and build sttus and alters, offer rituals to them. What the catholis do for Father Tansy won't be what the Pentecostals will do for Awolowo

vooks:

What is the purpose of resurrection?

You tell me.

Provide your proof that necromancy is "contact with the dead."

[You tell me.

vooks:

Except God won't suffer nobody to contact the dead by any means

Where did God tell you that?

vooks:

The same reasons Jesus resurrects us on the last day and you can't Negro

He is God, Creator and you are a mere creature

Where did Jesus say we can't talk to saints, like he did?

italo:
Where did Jesus say we can't talk to saints, like he did?

Where did Jesus say you can't sleep with a goat?

italo:
[You tell me.

Where did God tell you that?

Ask Saul. I won't post the same verse more than once

italo:
You tell me.

The saints are alive, what is the purpose of resurrection?

Provide your proof that necromancy is "contact with the dead."

Because that is exactly what NECROMANCY is. Stop being foolish, can you 'prove' that a bull has balls? You don't need to be cause the very definition of a bull is a male animal

italo:


It makes God to be in me and I in God.

So God in me can talk to his saints...and I can talk to the saints by God in me.

God in you. How much has God in you created? How many has God in you given eternal life?
Catholicism is satanism

paulGrundy:
Please provide the link to catholic site that talks about cannonization, so I can compare with your quote.

Do some work. Use Google. I can't spoon-feed you.

vooks:

God in you. How much has God in you created? How many has God in you given eternal life?
Catholicism is satanism

So much that I achieve in prayer is a form of creation by God in me.

If Catholicism is satanism, then the Bible is satanic.

The Catholic Church chose and canonized the books of the bible and closed the canon.

vooks:

The saints are alive, what is the purpose of resurrection?


Because that is exactly what NECROMANCY is. Stop being foolish, can you 'prove' that a bull has balls? You don't need to be cause the very definition of a bull is a male animal

I can prove that the very definition of a bull is a male animal by showing you the definition in a dictionary. Even then, not all male animals have balls.

Can you prove tha necromancy means "contact with the dead" from any bible verse or dictionary? No!

italo:


I can prove that the very definition of a bull is a male animal by showing you the definition in a dictionary. Even then, not all male animals have balls.

Can you prove tha necromancy means "contact with the dead" from any bible verse or dictionary? No!

Let us use a bible dictionary. Is this ok with you?

vooks:

Ask Saul. I won't post the same verse more than once

Nowhere did God tell you we can't contact the dead.

You're manufacturing doctrines and lying against God.

vooks:

Where did Jesus say you can't sleep with a goat?

Jesus said it through his Catholic Church.

Now tell me where Jesus told you we can't talk to saints, like him.

He never told you so right?

It's your personal doctrine abi?

italo:


So much that I achieve in prayer is a form of creation by God in me.

If Catholicism is satanism, then the Bible is satanic.

The Catholic Church chose and canonized the books of the bible and closed the canon.

NT was out before Catholicism was invented. Please think.

Do you give eternal life and forgive sins?

vooks:


Let us use a bible dictionary. Is this ok with you?

Use it...

if you can tell me who authored the dictionary...

...and if I'm also allowed to prove my point with extra-biblical sources.

italo:
Where did Jesus say we can't talk to saints, like he did?

Deuteronomy 18:11

italo:


Use it...

if you can tell me who authored the dictionary...

...and if I'm also allowed to prove my point with extra-biblical sources.

Define necromancy and quote your sources

italo:


Nowhere did God tell you we can't contact the dead.

You're manufacturing doctrines and lying against God.

Deuteronomy 18:11

vooks:

NT was out before Catholicism was invented. Please think.

What year did NT come out and what year was Catholicism invented?

Please provide evidence.

vooks:

Do you give eternal life and forgive sins?

Humans can forgive sins and thereby give eternal life through the power of God in them.

Read John20:23.

Pagan Catholics consult dead men

DEFINE NECROMANCER

italo:




What year did NT come out and what year was Catholicism invented?

Please provide evidence.

96AD

Humans can forgive sins and thereby give eternal life through the power of God in them.

Read John20:23.

How many souls have you given life italo?
Where is your creation, where is your earth?
When last did you receive worship because you are God?

italo,
What is the difference between you talking to your grandfather by his grave and engaging Mary?