₦airaland Forum

prettyboi1:
People are just being too impatient,that's the major problem. Even though by God's Grace, I have faith in Buhari's government, I am not a sycophant. I would praise when need be and I would criticize when need be...after all my loyalty is to Nigeria as a country and not to any man. However, in running a country, 7 months is damn too small to even see any visible changes (especially when so many problems were inherited from a previous government ). The hard truth is that even 2 years is still too small to see very visible results. The most likely thing after 2 years is that a lot of ground work, networking and alliances would have been made and visible enough for the people to appreciate that government is on a right path, so let's all be patient, objective and patriotic.
Secondly, people saying the country is grounded cos of the president's anti-corruption campaign are getting it all wrong. Nigeria's major source of revenue (cos of our 'mono-economy') is oil and the prices of oil are so freaking low that we can all casually stroll out and buy a barrell for ourselves. Lol. Now,government needs money to run the country alongside the small change it gets from oil now. That need has prompted government to follow our stolen monies while also blocking existing loopholes in the system that made it so easy to steal public money in previous times. Look at the attempts to recover looted public funds as 'diversifying the economy' rather than that 'parable' up there.

God Bless Nigeria.

Standing5:
@Gaborone,
What the 'ficticious agbero' boss is saying is if he has a business and the OP decides to steal a huge chunk of what constitute his business capital and assets, he, the boss will simply carry on without raising much alarm or chasing him even in the face of an unfavourable market condition that crippling his current business operation. Pls use your sense, GEJ should defend himself and not one liar giving us fable.
Maybe we should invite PDP and Gej to come tell Buhari how to do it with oyel selling at $30+/barrel. Of course the economy was going to have a false feel of it bloosoming with the way GEJ shared monies. If i was a market trader selling clothes aso oke, aso ebi, food stuff, shoes, decoration, doing sovenirs, or service provider renting out halls, doing its decor, handling events, i will probably say Jonathan handled things better because corruption proceeds like those $250k(N50) he shared to kings b4 election trickled down to the market people i mentioned, but knowing what i know, i tell you Buhari is easily 5-6 times better.

GogobiriLalas:
seriously! Corruption turns the economy into a basket, there's nothing you can do to fill it water until you plug all the holes...Nigeria is in much need of a cultural revolution, have you ever gone out to chat with the average Nigerian youth? Bros nobody cares about the country every one is looking for how to make it and not just make it o, I lavita loca make it. Not only must the corrupt be brought to justice, there must be a public show, display, live coverage, media fan fare etc. to demonstrate to all that we would no longer tolerate the subversion of our collective resources. I'm not a fan of Bubu by a long shot, but on this point, he's right on.

ElCapone:
Mr I guess its you who needs to receive sense here, are yhu telling us that you blind to what his officers did when he was in power, we still dat arms deal issue, money meant 4 arms was diverted for campaign purposes by ur clueless hero, see the lives of civilians and soldiers lost as a result of this looting, yet yhu come on here and rant abt stupid awards and recognition. Take it or leave, history wld always judge jonathan and his cohorts for bringing Nigeria to its knees. All we passing through rite nw is as a result of his 6 yrs of cluelessness!!!!

Gaborone:

I found the bolded really funny.

Please get your facts right. Between 1960 - 1999, about $400Billion has been stolen from Nigeria. I don't know about 2000 - 2015, but I know its going to be a small fraction of that. Now, lets be realistic: supposing our President is able to recover a part of this at the end of the day (let's say $50Billion), how far will that take Nigeria, if by then, all investors have gone, and the economy has finally crumbled. How many years' budget will that take care of, since we now place the budget and drive the economy through recovered funds?

And I don't want to even talk about revenue drives, or presentations, or meetings, or committees, what I want to talk about is RESULTS. We've seen too much cheese dangling in the past, so much so that we are not moved till these 'drives' that churning out results.

achiphet:
Lets think like weve left the industrial age for once. The current hardship is 50% buharis fault and 50% the drop in oil prices fault. We live in a monoeconomic Nigeria and the sole source of our country's income just went down by more than 70%......that means a '70%' slash in our economy and living standards, take it or leave it. But friends we are in the information age where u must not depend on the economy of ur country to make money, though its hard to leverage this 'fact', we must look for how to make the cash abroad and bring ii in to help this economy until Nigeria secures an alternative source of income. Ive found a one and will be happy to shear it with anybody that cares to ask. Gods grace

jaybee3:
Your boss is actually very daft simply because he/she ridiculously forgot the key components of leadership.

Buhari has assembled and subsequently delegated the responsibilities of moving the country forward to his disciples (FEC)

Nigeria being broke means we have to generate income via other legal means.

Absolutely nothing wrong in asset recovery from past looters

Absolutely nothing wrong from sending a strong signal that it's not going to be business as usual

Everything is wrong with the myopic reasoning of letting by gone be by gone without doing a proper root cause analysis and in turn enacting strong institutions to fight the cancer called corruption

Gaborone:
So, here we go...

Yesterday at the office, my boss walked up to us -his employees- and gave an impassioned talk about President Buhari's style of governance. He said, while he thought Buhari's attempt at recovering stolen funds were not out of place in itself, he was giving way too much attention to it. According to him, the President's lack of priority in this regard had become counter-productive and had started to prove detrimental to other areas that are in dire need his attention.

To drive home his point, he gave us a parable of an employer who kept N20,000 in his office somewhere, and on coming back to take it, he discovered that one of his Clerks had run off with it. After the discovery, the employer took the keys to the office, locked it up. He ran out with as much fury as he could muster, shouting to the hearing of all who would listen, "Who saw my boy?!!!", "Please, help me find him and get my money!!" All the while this employer was out looking for the stolen money, his shop remained under lock and key, no monies coming out, no monies going in. No customer, no profits in sight; he was making losses with every turn. Yet, ALL that mattered to him remained getting the thief of a boy, and recovering the stolen money.

My boss likened the employer in the above parable to President Buhari. He says our President has practically closed shop -Nigeria- and has decided to channel all his energy into getting stolen funds, forgetting that there is a bigger picture -an economy- that needs urgent attention; forgetting that the country might be going into a recession; forgetting that people are losing their jobs, forgetting that foreign investors are leaving, and more are 'plotting' to close shop and leave Nigeria; forgetting that an economy is not run by stolen funds which are recovered, but that if anything, they are to be regarded as "extras".

The above is how my boss sees things right now, and I agree with him.

I have to agree because, since coming into office, the activities of President Buhari's government has centered around just two things: 1. Foreign trips; and 2. Instigating the prosecution of looters of the past (who I must mention are not pro his government or pro-Apc). While the relevance of the above two can really not be downplayed, the fact remains that attention need to be given to the economy of Nigeria. As my boss said, no country has ever been run on recovered funds. Me thinks he needs to stay home a bit more, and pay attention to the alarms being raised by the World Bank and other bodies about Nigeria's economy. He need to share that attention he is giving the boy who stole the money.

Now, what's your own take about what my boss said?

#As an aside, he needs to stop talking so much about his predecessor -Jonathan. It's only a lazy man that blames his tools all the time.


Cc: lalasticlala

SamJed:
under that 6 years of supposed cluelessness was the economy in the mess that it is now? Was fuel so scarce? Were workers been downsized regularly as it is now? If you are a salary earner, was your salary delayed till 12th of the next month of which you people celebrate whenever it is been paid? Were investors leaving because of unfriendly environment? U think Dasuki's case is just based on corruption and not witch hunting? Dasuki was among the people sent to arrest buhari when his government was overthrown so this is a very good avenue of pay back and not the supposed media trials...amaechi was accused of spending state money as a governor, why is he not been probed? Fashola's website caused stir, why wasn't it probed the way dasuki is been probed...buhari accused GEJ of acquiring 10 presidential aircrafts saying that it is a waste of resources in maintaining them yet since he became president not even 1 of them has been sold and you won't see that one....in the supposed era of cluelessness, your life was better than this... instead of you to say the truth you will be living in hypocrisy

jaybee3:
Your boss is actually very daft simply because he/she ridiculously forgot the key components of leadership.

Buhari has assembled and subsequently delegated the responsibilities of moving the country forward to his disciples (FEC)

Nigeria being broke means we have to generate income via other legal means.

Absolutely nothing wrong in asset recovery from past looters

Absolutely nothing wrong from sending a strong signal that it's not going to be business as usual

Everything is wrong with the myopic reasoning of letting by gone be by gone without doing a proper root cause analysis and in turn enacting strong institutions to fight the cancer called corruption

lookingfly:
you mean corrupt individuals must be brought to justice in public glare the way pmb shamefully shielded corrupt amaechi into becoming minister.

Gaborone:
So, here we go...

Yesterday at the office, my boss walked up to us -his employees- and gave an impassioned talk about President Buhari's style of governance. He said, while he thought Buhari's attempt at recovering stolen funds were not out of place in itself, he was giving way too much attention to it. According to him, the President's lack of priority in this regard had become counter-productive and had started to prove detrimental to other areas that are in dire need his attention.

To drive home his point, he gave us a parable of an employer who kept N20,000 in his office somewhere, and on coming back to take it, he discovered that one of his Clerks had run off with it. After the discovery, the employer took the keys to the office, locked it up. He ran out with as much fury as he could muster, shouting to the hearing of all who would listen, "Who saw my boy?!!!", "Please, help me find him and get my money!!" All the while this employer was out looking for the stolen money, his shop remained under lock and key, no monies coming out, no monies going in. No customer, no profits in sight; he was making losses with every turn. Yet, ALL that mattered to him remained getting the thief of a boy, and recovering the stolen money.

My boss likened the employer in the above parable to President Buhari. He says our President has practically closed shop -Nigeria- and has decided to channel all his energy into getting stolen funds, forgetting that there is a bigger picture -an economy- that needs urgent attention; forgetting that the country might be going into a recession; forgetting that people are losing their jobs, forgetting that foreign investors are leaving, and more are 'plotting' to close shop and leave Nigeria; forgetting that an economy is not run by stolen funds which are recovered, but that if anything, they are to be regarded as "extras".

The above is how my boss sees things right now, and I agree with him.

I have to agree because, since coming into office, the activities of President Buhari's government has centered around just two things: 1. Foreign trips; and 2. Instigating the prosecution of looters of the past (who I must mention are not pro his government or pro-Apc). While the relevance of the above two can really not be downplayed, the fact remains that attention need to be given to the economy of Nigeria. As my boss said, no country has ever been run on recovered funds. Me thinks he needs to stay home a bit more, and pay attention to the alarms being raised by the World Bank and other bodies about Nigeria's economy. He need to share that attention he is giving the boy who stole the money.

Now, what's your own take about what my boss said?

#As an aside, he needs to stop talking so much about his predecessor -Jonathan. It's only a lazy man that blames his tools all the time.


Cc: lalasticlala

unite4real:
Your boss is the type that thinks that, if given basket to fetch water, he will continue to pour more and more volumes of water into the basket, while buhari thinks that, you have to seal all the holes in the basket first before pouring water into it.

Gaborone:
So, here we go...

Yesterday at the office, my boss walked up to us -his employees- and gave an impassioned talk about President Buhari's style of governance. He said, while he thought Buhari's attempt at recovering stolen funds were not out of place in itself, he was giving way too much attention to it. According to him, the President's lack of priority in this regard had become counter-productive and had started to prove detrimental to other areas that are in dire need his attention.

[b]To drive home his point, he gave us a parable of an employer who kept N20,000 in his office somewhere, and on coming back to take it, he discovered that one of his Clerks had run off with it. After the discovery, the employer took the keys to the office, locked it up. He ran out with as much fury as he could muster, shouting to the hearing of all who would listen, "Who saw my boy?!!!", "Please, help me find him and get my money!!" All the while this employer was out looking for the stolen money, his shop remained under lock and key, no monies coming out, no monies going in. No customer, no profits in sight; he was making losses with every turn. Yet, ALL that mattered to him remained getting the thief of a boy, and recovering the stolen money.

My boss likened the employer in the above parable to President Buhari. He says our President has practically closed shop -Nigeria- and has decided to channel all his energy into getting stolen funds, forgetting that there is a bigger picture -an economy- that needs urgent attention; forgetting that the country might be going into a recession; forgetting that people are losing their jobs, forgetting that foreign investors are leaving, and more are 'plotting' to close shop and leave Nigeria; forgetting that an economy is not run by stolen funds which are recovered, but that if anything, they are to be regarded as "extras".
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The above is how my boss sees things right now, and I agree with him.

I have to agree because, since coming into office, the activities of President Buhari's government has centered around just two things: 1. Foreign trips; and 2. Instigating the prosecution of looters of the past (who I must mention are not pro his government or pro-Apc). While the relevance of the above two can really not be downplayed, the fact remains that attention need to be given to the economy of Nigeria. As my boss said, no country has ever been run on recovered funds. Me thinks he needs to stay home a bit more, and pay attention to the alarms being raised by the World Bank and other bodies about Nigeria's economy. He need to share that attention he is giving the boy who stole the money.

Now, what's your own take about what my boss said?

#As an aside, he needs to stop talking so much about his predecessor -Jonathan. It's only a lazy man that blames his tools all the time.


Cc: lalasticlala

Zoharariel:
@OP - Pls be sincere and tell me your boss is not an Igbo man.

They will never see anything wrong with the administration of Ebele - The accursed & Clueless inspite of the can of worms being opened by the EFCC.

Zoharariel:
@OP - Pls be sincere and tell me your boss is not an Igbo man.

They will never see anything wrong with the administration of Ebele - The accursed & Clueless inspite of the can of worms being opened by the EFCC.

jaybee3:
Your boss is actually very daft simply because he/she ridiculously forgot the key components of leadership.

Buhari has assembled and subsequently delegated the responsibilities of moving the country forward to his disciples (FEC)

Nigeria being broke means we have to generate income via other legal means.

Absolutely nothing wrong in asset recovery from past looters

Absolutely nothing wrong from sending a strong signal that it's not going to be business as usual

Everything is wrong with the myopic reasoning of letting by gone be by gone without doing a proper root cause analysis and in turn enacting strong institutions to fight the cancer called corruption

Joewiezy:
Why can't he delegate the loot recovery then and focus on other things.

GogobiriLalas:
seriously! Corruption turns the economy into a basket, there's nothing you can do to fill it water until you plug all the holes...Nigeria is in much need of a cultural revolution, have you ever gone out to chat with the average Nigerian youth? Bros nobody cares about the country every one is looking for how to make it and not just make it o, I lavita loca make it. Not only must the corrupt be brought to justice, there must be a public show, display, live coverage, media fan fare etc. to demonstrate to all that we would no longer tolerate the subversion of our collective resources. I'm not a fan of Bubu by a long shot, but on this point, he's right on.

Gaborone:

I found the bolded really funny.

Please get your facts right. Between 1960 - 1999, about $400Billion has been stolen from Nigeria. I don't know about 2000 - 2015, but I know its going to be a small fraction of that. Now, lets be realistic: supposing our President is able to recover a part of this at the end of the day (let's say $50Billion), how far will that take Nigeria, if by then, all investors have gone, and the economy has finally crumbled. How many years' budget will that take care of, since we now place the budget and drive the economy through recovered funds?

And I don't want to even talk about revenue drives, or presentations, or meetings, or committees, what I want to talk about is RESULTS. We've seen too much cheese dangling in the past, so much so that we are not moved till these 'drives' that churning out results.

light004:
Guy, on a serious note, it's impossible to eradicate corruption totally anywhere in the world but it can be minimized to a considerable level. Nigeria is not the most corrupt country in the world and some of the most corrupt countries are highly productive than Nigeria and their economy is very robust. China is more corrupt than Nigeria with a tougher penalty on corruption than Nigeria.

The truth is we must address the root causes of corruption which are everywhere around us but we pretend they don't matter. Let me mention just a few:

1. Inequality: high income disparity, fractured justice system, the poor has no access to justice.

2. Lack of Opportunities: no access to finance, poor infrastructure, no jobs, bad business environment, etc

3. Low income wages: minimum wage N18,000, can a family of 3 survive on this for a month?

4. Poor Education: This is the main crux of the problem; an illiterate mind is a lose cannon. Good example is boko haram.

Fighting corruption is a noble idea but it must go along with other govt policies.

light004:
Guy, on a serious note, it's impossible to eradicate corruption totally anywhere in the world but it can be minimized to a considerable level. Nigeria is not the most corrupt country in the world and some of the most corrupt countries are highly productive than Nigeria and their economy is very robust. China is more corrupt than Nigeria with a tougher penalty on corruption than Nigeria.

The truth is we must address the root causes of corruption which are everywhere around us but we pretend they don't matter. Let me mention just a few:

1. Inequality: high income disparity, fractured justice system, the poor has no access to justice.

2. Lack of Opportunities: no access to finance, poor infrastructure, no jobs, bad business environment, etc

3. Low income wages: minimum wage N18,000, can a family of 3 survive on this for a month?

4. Poor Education: This is the main crux of the problem; an illiterate mind is a lose cannon. Good example is boko haram.

Fighting corruption is a noble idea but it must go along with other govt policies.

nnachukz:
That your boss is his name FAYOSE or FFK? They reason alike and most times if not all times they make sense with their speeches. Well, I totally agree with your boss. We are suffering and smiling while everything is closed up.

Gaborone:
So, here we go...

Yesterday at the office, my boss walked up to us -his employees- and gave an impassioned talk about President Buhari's style of governance. He said, while he thought Buhari's attempt at recovering stolen funds were not out of place in itself, he was giving way too much attention to it. According to him, the President's lack of priority in this regard had become counter-productive and had started to prove detrimental to other areas that are in dire need his attention.

To drive home his point, he gave us a parable of an employer who kept N20,000 in his office somewhere, and on coming back to take it, he discovered that one of his Clerks had run off with it. After the discovery, the employer took the keys to the office, locked it up. He ran out with as much fury as he could muster, shouting to the hearing of all who would listen, "Who saw my boy?!!!", "Please, help me find him and get my money!!" All the while this employer was out looking for the stolen money, his shop remained under lock and key, no monies coming out, no monies going in. No customer, no profits in sight; he was making losses with every turn. Yet, ALL that mattered to him remained getting the thief of a boy, and recovering the stolen money.

My boss likened the employer in the above parable to President Buhari. He says our President has practically closed shop -Nigeria- and has decided to channel all his energy into getting stolen funds, forgetting that there is a bigger picture -an economy- that needs urgent attention; forgetting that the country might be going into a recession; forgetting that people are losing their jobs, forgetting that foreign investors are leaving, and more are 'plotting' to close shop and leave Nigeria; forgetting that an economy is not run by stolen funds which are recovered, but that if anything, they are to be regarded as "extras".

The above is how my boss sees things right now, and I agree with him.

I have to agree because, since coming into office, the activities of President Buhari's government has centered around just two things: 1. Foreign trips; and 2. Instigating the prosecution of looters of the past (who I must mention are not pro his government or pro-Apc). While the relevance of the above two can really not be downplayed, the fact remains that attention need to be igiven to the economy of Nigeria. As my boss said, no country has ever been run on recovered funds. Me thinks he needs to stay home a bit more, and pay attention to the alarms being raised by the World Bank and other bodies about Nigeria's economy. He need to share that attention he is giving the boy who stole the money.

Now, what's your own take about what my boss said?

#As an aside, he needs to stop talking so much about his predecessor -Jonathan. It's only a lazy man that blames his tools all the time.


Cc: lalasticlala

olad1954:
hi Gaborone . i understand your boss analysis on the state of the Nigerian economy.my simple analysis is , let us take a basket(Nigeria) and we are trying to feel the basket with water(revenue earning) . but the water linking(corruption) . what do we do in this case? I rest my case.

Gaborone:
Hello olad1954,

No one is saying Buhari shouldn't plug those holes if his intent is that the basket holds water; but its good sense that while at it, he ensures that the basket itself isn't destroyed one way or the other. Else, what would be the point if he ignores the fact that rot, termites are beginning to deal with the basket, and he chooses instead to put all his focus on blocking those holes? What use will the 'sealed' basket be when it's all rots and termites by the time he is done? Can he fetch anything good with that?

And then, the truth is, I'm not so sure why we're having this conversation, because in my original post, I stated that my boos didn't see President's Buhari's efforts at loot recovery as bad. I also stated somewhere that the benefits of same cannot be downplayed. All I said in that post was that, other areas were sounding the alarm, and they needed attending to as well. As such, I'm close to shocked seeing posters imply that the summary of the original post is that Buhari shouldn't give any attention to loot recovery. It's kind of funny to me.

It's been an interesting one on the thread anyway.

baralatie:
You have no idea how some people misunderstood your explanation on governance and economic delivery!
For some it has been the call for PMB not to neglect the economy but some people and PMB just won't let him face it.
7 months after the issues are starring at him, of which by now he should have successfully come out with an AA+.

achiphet:
Lets think like weve left the industrial age for once. The current hardship is 50% buharis fault and 50% the drop in oil prices fault. We live in a monoeconomic Nigeria and the sole source of our country's income just went down by more than 70%......that means a '70%' slash in our economy and living standards, take it or leave it. But friends we are in the information age where u must not depend on the economy of ur country to make money, though its hard to leverage this 'fact', we must look for how to make the cash abroad and bring ii in to help this economy until Nigeria secures an alternative source of income. Ive found a one and will be happy to shear it with anybody that cares to ask. Gods grace