₦airaland Forum

kayfra:
Just cause one is immediately available to use as opposed to the hurdles you will run into with INEC for the other.

You can register BPP for all I care, just do the right thing.

Please direct the bolded to the powers who administer NL because any support for anything Biafra attracts a ban. I wonder how they can cope with Biafran Peoples Party or Biafran Nationalist Party as you have implied. By the way, please write to INEC and inform them about your brilliant idea of incorporating Biafra in the mainstream of Nigerian polity.

martineverest:
yeah, indirectly ruled by bini monarch... Have u asked yourself y must monarch in aniomaland dress like oba. Read the history of dein of agbor and see the power of oba in aniomaland

Anioma is not a tribe but a union of sub-groups.
We Anioma have a strong Igbo influence, Aniocha, Oshimili, Ukwuani, we are the main Delta Igbos and we are part of the Anioma family.
Ikas have a mixture of both Igbo and Benin influence.
Get ur fact right next time.

omonnakoda:
This bombastic verbosity is what I am talking about.
A clear sign of senility in our drooling dotard Dende. He continues to regale us with meaningless but important sounding verbiage

I thought you have grown into a man or woman by now.

DerideGull:
I thought you have grown into a man or woman by now.

How was Christmas in the sanatorium?

DerideGull:
Please direct the bolded to the powers who administer NL because any support for anything Biafra attracts a ban. I wonder how they can cope with Biafran Peoples Party or Biafran Nationalist Party as you have implied. By the way, please write to INEC and inform them about your brilliant idea of incorporating Biafra in the mainstream of Nigerian polity.

That's what I expect the leadership of ipob, MASSOB etc to do. People's imagination has already been captured, the next thing is to put the plans in place. It's not going to be easy but it can be done peacefully.

Pick the weakest representative in the SE and recall him and vote someone else in. Start registering your own party and watch the politicians start raising motions for Biafra left, right and center. Wisdom is needed here the current riots can only last so long before fatigue and indifference sets in.

kayfra:
Almost every country on earth has separatist groups agitating for self determination. Nothing unique about it.

For sake of posterity, can you name one separatist outfit in USA? Yes, there is one such group in Spain and the Spanish government does not behave like idiotic Nigerian government.

kayfra:
That's what I expect the leadership of ipob, MASSOB etc to do. People's imagination has already been captured, the next thing is to put the plans in place. It's not going to be easy but it can be done peacefully.

Pick the weakest representative in the SE and recall him and vote someone else in. Start registering your own party and watch the politicians start raising motions for Biafra left, right and center. Wisdom is needed here the current riots can only last so long before fatigue and indifference sets in.

Nigerians seem to be politically myopic. There are multiple ways to solve a problem. The IPOB and MASSOB have chosen a way and it must be respected.

DerideGull:
For sake of posterity, can you name one separatist outfit in USA? Yes, there is one such group in Spain and the Spanish government does not behave like idiotic Nigerian government.

League of the South
Alaska Independence Party
Republic of Lakotah
Texas Nationalist Movement
Second Vermont Republic

Just to name a few

DerideGull:
Nigerians seem to be politically myopic. There are multiple ways to solve a problem. The IPOB and MASSOB have chosen a way and it must be respected.

You don't know what myopic means or you are just irredeemably stupid.

What ipob way? What plan?

DerideGull:
Nigerians seem to be politically myopic. There are multiple ways to solve a problem. The IPOB and MASSOB have chosen a way and it must be respected.

You don't know what myopic means or you are just irredeemably stu.pid.

What ipob way? What plan?

kayfra:
League of the South
Alaska Independence Party
Republic of Lakotah
Texas Nationalist Movement
Second Vermont Republic

Just to name a few

Name one such group its leader has been illegally or even legally detained?

DerideGull:
Name one such group its leader has been illegally detained?

Stop shifting the goal post. You asked for a list and I gave you one.

kayfra:
You can't always get what you want either. It's like a kid with malaria refusing medication with no plans to recovery.

And it's the mumu parents that bear the costs and have sleepless nights.

kayfra:
Stop shifting the goal post. You asked for a list and I gave you one.

I an not shifting the goal post but staying within the circle of the debate. Every separatist movement has been persecuted by the so-called federal government of Nigeria. You would have a case if Nnamdi Kanu is not being illegally detained. Every so-called separatist movement in USA has freedom of public debate and exercise of free speech.

DerideGull:
I an not shifting the goal post but staying within the circle of the debate. Every separatist movement has been persecuted by the so-called federal government of Nigeria. You would have a case if Nnamdi Kanu is not being illegally detained. Every so-called separatist movement in USA has freedom of public debate and exercise of free speech.

There are limits to freedom of speech such as inciting violence. Most governments crack down on such.

Udmaster:
first u are Edo and can speak for ur edo state.
IPOB is IPOB. They are on their own.
We have our Igboid groups in SS too.
Nnamdi Kanu do not have the support of majority of Igbos.

then why re u using biafrag to speak for all in d SE and parts of SS? SS do not want biafra! But we want ND republic!

kayfra:
There are limits to freedom of speech such as inciting violence. Most governments crack down on such.

There is no limit to freedom of speech especially under the auspice of self-determination. However if anybody feels offended by such speeches, he/she can take the group to court for defamation. Incitement of violence cannot be included when asking people to march or protest for they believed.

DerideGull:
There is no limit to freedom speech especially under the auspice of self-determination. However if anybody feels offended by such speeches, he/she can take the group to court for defamation. Incitement of violence cannot be included when asking people to march or protest for they believed.

Nothing you said there is under Nigerian law which is available for the public to read.

I'd defer to the court to make the determination though.

Udmaster:
One Of the reasons that many Igbos are not in support of Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB movement is the Way He and his members have been attracting Insults to the Great IGBO Nation especially from the so called SS Minorities because of their inclusion in the Biafra map by Nnamdi Kanu.
I am from Abia State and historically we Igbos of Abia Extraction have lived in peace and harmony with our Efik and Ibibio neighbours of Akwa Ibom.
The IGBOS are a Peaceful Tribe and I am YET to see any minority group come out and point to a Land Igbos forcefully took from them.
"Biri Ka M Biri"- Live and Lets Live, have been one of the key Igbo Philosophical beliefs.
- The IGBOS have moved on from the 1967-1970 issues and we proved that when We gave our bloc Votes to OBJ(yoruba), Yaradua (fulani) and GEJ(ijaw).
One thing that I am sure of is that an IGBO Man can Never get a Bloc Vote in ijaw land.
But in the spirit of Maturity and Peace Loving and NOT FOR ANY BLACKMAILING, The Igbo Nation voted firmly for GEJ in the face of Insults and Threats.
- Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB followers DO NOT Speak for the IGBOS..
Next Time these IPOBs include your minority tribe in their map, Pls Attack Nnamdi Kanu and IPOBs, DO NOT DARE MENTION THE IGBOS..
- Every tribe have every right to chater for their own future but these IPOBs would not acknowledge that.. By the Way If your women tie two wrappers, you are a Biafran according to their delusional illustration..
IGBOS are NO Land Grabbers and We Practise ONE NIGERIA more than every other tribe.
IPOB is IPOB and have not majority backing from the IGBOS.

i will concur and believe you if u can tell me how much u took or are u eyeing any ministerial post??

Udmaster:
first u are Edo and can speak for ur edo state.
IPOB is IPOB. They are on their own.
We have our Igboid groups in SS too.
Nnamdi Kanu do not have the support of majority of Igbos.

thunder fire u....what kanu is doing is just reminding u that for the struggle so far,u are nither huasa or yoruba,so therefore u are compelled to join the igbos!!

DerideGull:
Onye nkuzi, O dika ighima nga alaigbo bidoro ma kwushi (gabiga).

O di ka ibu onye Imo?

Udmaster, thank you for this thread. I have said it many times that Igbo nation should be separated from Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB. Just imagine the silly speech about wrappers. Imagine Kanu asking his followers to rise up and attack Pastor Kumuyi and kill Yorubas! Is that how he intends to get Biafra? What has a man of God got to do with his agitation?

I believe we Igbos can get a lot of what we want if we play our cards right in Nigeria but the reason why I get involved in all this Biafra talk is incase Nigeria eventually breaks up.

The Igbos will not force any tribe to be part of us but will accept any tribes that choose to be with us. All I am trying to point out is that Igboland is much bigger than the SE as defined by Nigeria, Igboland spreads into Delta & Rivers states. If Nigeria breaks we will take all our lands with us. The rest of the "We SS" people like tonyebarcanista and his likes can then form their ND republic. Thank God ijawcitizen has recognised this fact.


Another thing fundamentally wrong with Nnamdi Kanu's approach is that he did not make wide spread consultations, you cannot just sit down in UK, draw any map you like and begin to circulate as Biafra, this is the reason why these minorities are calling us expantionists. Consultation is key in this very critical issues. For instance if there happens to be any sort of agreement between the Igbos and the SS people to form any country the name cannot be Biafra, the name would be agreed by negotiations. Secondly we can go for a rgional system of government whereby we have two regions i.e. SE & SS. Each region would control it's resources and pay 20% to the center to fund a united formidable military. We can have a president and prime minister such that ifsay the SE produces the president, the SS would produce prime minister and vice versa.


This way, a society built on fairness and justice can be formed. This issue calls for a lot of mental work and not someone asking people to start killing their neighbours from one radio Biafra. As for the true size of Igboland, Cheruv has the map.

Udmaster:
o bu oru Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo Ime nka..

Nka bu eziokwu

EUROBOMBER:
Udmaster, thank you for this thread. I have said it many times that Igbo nation should be separated from Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB. Just imagine the silly speech about wrappers. Imagine Kanu asking his followers to rise up and attack Pastor Kumuyi and kill Yorubas! Is that how he intends to get Biafra? What has a man of God got to do with his agitation?

I believe we Igbos can get a lot of what we want if we play our cards right in Nigeria but the reason why I get involved in all this Biafra talk is incase Nigeria eventually breaks up.

The Igbos will not force any tribe to be part of us but will accept any tribes that choose to be with us. All I am trying to point out is that Igboland is much bigger than the SE as defined by Nigeria, Igboland spreads into Delta & Rivers states. If Nigeria breaks we will take all our lands with us. The rest of the "We SS" people like tonyebarcanista and his likes can then form their ND republic. Thank God ijawcitizen has recognised this fact.


Another thing fundamentally wrong with Nnamdi Kanu's approach is that he did not make wide spread consultations, you cannot just sit down in UK, draw any map you like and begin to circulate as Biafra, this is the reason why these minorities are calling us expantionists. Consultation is key in this very critical issues. For instance if there happens to be any sort of agreement between the Igbos and the SS people to form any country the name cannot be Biafra, the name would be agreed by negotiations. Secondly we can go for a rgional system of government whereby we have two regions i.e. SE & SS. Each region would control it's resources and pay 20% to the center to fund a united formidable military. We can have a president and prime minister such that ifsay the SE produces the president, the SS would produce prime minister and vice versa.


This way, a society built on fairness and justice can be formed. This issue calls for a lot of mental work and not someone asking people to start killing their neighbours from one radio Biafra. As for the true size of Igboland, Cheruv has the map.

Nice Comment.. Uniting the Igbo with their kith and kin in SS and NC should be the main aim now.
And it is the duty of Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo to do that.

TonyeBarcanista:
Udmaster, God bless you. I'm not a saint but the Kanu-led iPOB group have seriously been setting Igbo nation against other groups. I am never against unity but I believe in unity of purpose and not one forced unity.

on point.

Udmaster:
Nice Comment.. Uniting the Igbo with their kith and kin in SS and NC should be the main aim now.
And it is the duty of Ohanaeze Ndi Igbo to do that.

Exactly. I have been drumming it into the ears of our people that SE is just a political creation by Nigeria, we must know our true boundaries and start trying to unite our people whether they are in the SE, SS or even MB.

Observant:
@udumaster, hota na ihe mazi Kanu giri na agu nye ndi obodo mba mmiri bu maka I gosi na obodo biafra adi la tupu ndi ocha abia chikota anyi na Ndi ugwu awusa onu.

Ikpe a ga ekpe diri na etiti Nigeria na Biafra.
Ma na mu onwe m choro obodo soso ndigbo SE na ndigbo SS. Ndi mba miri, o ka cha si njo ndi ijaw e nwe gi isi na mmadu.


Udo..

Igbo gi mara mma. Mu n'onwe m achodi ijo n'ala biafra. I ne anya ofuma ifu n'ofa bu ndi ilo na dachia azu n'ije biafra nke a. Achodim ndia cha cha. Oburu n'anyi ga enwetawun biafra bu so alaigbo,ogadim mma

MrAnalyst:
Igbo gi mara mma. Mu n'onwe m achodi ijo n'ala biafra. I ne anya ofuma ifu n'ofa bu ndi ilo na dachia azu n'ije biafra nke a. Achodim ndia cha cha. Oburu n'anyi ga enwetawun biafra bu so alaigbo,ogadim mma

Ise!!!!! O tu a ka mu choro kwara ya....

martineverest:
this is one fact that people don't know..
Once u write Edo off,u automatically write urhobo,itsekiri,anioma,ikwerres and partly ijaw off. Void must monarchs of this tribes see oba of Benin as their superior and chief commander. Lost monarchs from these tribes are from oba palace origin.a good example is dein of agbor. When he became the youngest monarch in history of Nigeria, his relatives wanted to eliminate him, causing heavy commotion in that region. To settle the brouhaha, he was sent to oba of Benin's palace for protection and grooming. The current dein grew up in bini palace and his education in UK was sponsored by oba.

Remove Anioma from whatever you wrote there please.

EUROBOMBER:
Exactly. I have been drumming it into the ears of our people that SE is just a political creation by Nigeria, we must know our true boundaries and start trying to unite our people whether they are in the SE, SS or even MB.

This is of paramount importance.
We must unite with our brothers carved into other regions of Nigeria.
We need to redefine our boundaries and standby it not give miscreants the opportunity to prey on our people on the boundaries of igboland.

EUROBOMBER:
Udmaster, thank you for this thread. I have said it many times that Igbo nation should be separated from Nnamdi Kanu's IPOB. Just imagine the silly speech about wrappers. Imagine Kanu asking his followers to rise up and attack Pastor Kumuyi and kill Yorubas! Is that how he intends to get Biafra? What has a man of God got to do with his agitation?

I believe we Igbos can get a lot of what we want if we play our cards right in Nigeria but the reason why I get involved in all this Biafra talk is incase Nigeria eventually breaks up.

The Igbos will not force any tribe to be part of us but will accept any tribes that choose to be with us. All I am trying to point out is that Igboland is much bigger than the SE as defined by Nigeria, Igboland spreads into Delta & Rivers states. If Nigeria breaks we will take all our lands with us. The rest of the "We SS" people like tonyebarcanista and his likes can then form their ND republic. Thank God ijawcitizen has recognised this fact.


Another thing fundamentally wrong with Nnamdi Kanu's approach is that he did not make wide spread consultations, you cannot just sit down in UK, draw any map you like and begin to circulate as Biafra, this is the reason why these minorities are calling us expantionists. Consultation is key in this very critical issues. For instance if there happens to be any sort of agreement between the Igbos and the SS people to form any country the name cannot be Biafra, the name would be agreed by negotiations. Secondly we can go for a rgional system of government whereby we have two regions i.e. SE & SS. Each region would control it's resources and pay 20% to the center to fund a united formidable military. We can have a president and prime minister such that ifsay the SE produces the president, the SS would produce prime minister and vice versa.


This way, a society built on fairness and justice can be formed. This issue calls for a lot of mental work and not someone asking people to start killing their neighbours from one radio Biafra. As for the true size of Igboland, Cheruv has the map.

you have spoke well but tell me,ndi ijo agekwete ihe nine I suggesti? Maka ndia egosigo m na ha maro Ife.

kayfra:
Nothing you said there is under Nigerian law which is available for the public to read.

I'd defer to the court to make the determination though.

Did 1999 Nigerian constitution make provisions for self-determination?