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Lacomus:
The issue here's that mobile device market (android)has been saturated already, had it been there was only one Android company and one Ios company wht happened when cowbell introduced 10 naira cowbell would have recur.

@cowbell got me reminiscing...leave am u get sense

AdaNri1:
I use an iPhone and I'm planning to dump it for Samsung Galaxy. Apple is too controlling; no external memory storage, no external backup unless iTunes or iCloud, in which case you have to pay monthly for your iCloud space.

You can't buy music externally any music you want has to be from music store. All these are annoying. Granted the phone looks good but after a new phone comes out and you update software your phone slows down till it grinds to a halt, which makes necessary to buy the new phone. It's just too much.

If you are among the 'rich' targeted by apple, 'pay' or 'buy' won't be a problem...

Chukzyfcb:
OP stop speaking unnecessary grammer. The only reason Iphone sells higher is because "THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD VALUE"....people usually make their buying decisions Primarily on "EMOTIONS"....the way U & I feel towards something determines how much I'm willingy to pay for it..#This is a top sales technique! No matter the poo Iphone brings out, people will always look at it as a phone with TOP VALUE, and no matter the specs TECNO puts in a phone, people will see it as CHINKO.....simply put, THEY KNOW HOW TO BUILD VALUE IN THEIR PRODUCTS"

Dude, yes! You are correct! But the reason for their building of value is still because their target consumer is the rich.

As a rich man you'll like to own something with value, something the poor can't afford, something that when you show off, they would know you're not in their level!

So apple knowing all this, then built a phone that plays that role...

Again! Target consumers.

Emeka71:
i-phone is just too expensive and boring.

Its not too expensive for the rich and willing to spend


What makes iphone boring?

danidee10:
What pains me is how apple users have become so blind.....they believe it's the best cuz of the money they paid for it

I don't have any problem with them....u can buy your device while I buy my plot of land in a remote location....but don't come n tell me it's better than my android or linux cuz it's more expensive.

If it's about money why are they more linux servers than windows

Or why did a hacker build a self driving car controlled with linux (ubuntu) not osx or windows

it's because of the price na
You know how people can like to hype because of price

There's discrimination in the Android ecosystem.

For instance, a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 user and a tecno user are both on Android but will not agree they are on the same level.

ITbomb:
Terrible analysis.
MAC was for targeted users, Windows was for everyone, who won? Windows

And the analogy with a child is pure rubbish. There is a better chance of bringing up a well educated child with siblings than a lonely over pampered child.

Apple is surviving on purely American pride, outside USA, it is basically useless

Dude what are you saying? You are the one saying pure rubbish!

This is apple iphone vs a single brand of phone

NOT

Ios vs android

Even android in total sells more than ios...


So yes! A mac sells more than every single laptop that runs windows!

What I mean is

A mac sells more than a dell inspiration
A mac sells more than a hp pavilion
A mac sells more than a samsung ativ

it is NOT a mac vs windows thing

greenhulk:
Nice write up. Just to buttress ur points, Apple. Makes more money from mobile phone sales because their OS is closed. This is a good business move if u ask me, monotony is one of the things a businessman pays for. By keeping their OS closed they have succeeded in

1. Preventing other oems from diluting the performance of the iPhone. If apple ha made the OS open, some oems will come in, make cheaper iphones with lower specs just to entice customers. This is the same case with android. For example if an iPhone user wants to try his experience with android and unfortunately the android phone he got is the low end one, he's going to have a bad impression about android. Meanwhile if a mid range android user tries an iPhone he will be amazed. IPhone is premium, there's no 2 way about it.

2. If u love ios, then u have to buy the iPhone, u don't have any other choice. So more money for Apple. Of course we give credit to apple for making ios so smooth and very easy to use. Ios is so optimized that a 1gb iPhone runs smoother than lots of 3gb ram androids.An 8mp iPhone shoots better photos than lots of 13mp android phoneS. If apple had decided to sell ios to other oems, then ios will have less value as some oems will fail to optimize or use substantial materials just to cut cost and sell their phones for cheap.

I had to log in to reply you. You made some points buh ruined it with some wrong statements.

If indeed ios is so smooth and extremely optimised why did their latest offerings debuted with 2GB RAM?

virtually all top oems have better cameras than iphones.

lordizak:
Android beast IOS, Apple sales more in only US & Canada; and that is becos Americans love their own, they love Brands. U can't tell me Europeans us more iPhone than HTC and Samsung. And over here our African brothers "wanna be" culture won't give them a choice. All engineers will prefer Samsung Note to any iPhone. Take for instance in the Nigerian context, Tecno and other Android devices will out sell iPhone. You see, this theories operates only in vacuum. Besides, if my pickin go study accounting, I go flog hell comot from him body.

galaxy note 5 is one hell beast of a phone ..currently the best flagship in the market today

There isn't anything like apple targets the rich. Loads of people use iPhone and they ain't rich at all. What would u say about that? the cost of the most expensive iPhone is about the same price with some top end Android phones

asuustrike2009:
Sorry bro if I quote your entire page, ask your mum what is product life cycle? Apple is in vogue now but another operating system will come and overshadow it soon. If na lie ask nokia symbian where they are now? Ask Ericsson phone what happen? Even ask Sagem what happen since their name as faded away, because that name is outdated. Every product passes through the PLC, although some get to the maturity stage and are rebranded, some others are withdraw completely from the market.

I don't get?
I get but I don't get?

What is this?
I cannot laugh abeg
Greenhulk come and see o!

lordizak:
Android beast IOS, Apple sales more in only US & Canada; and that is becos Americans love their own, they love Brands. U can't tell me Europeans us more iPhone than HTC and Samsung. And over here our African brothers "wanna be" culture won't give them a choice. All engineers will prefer Samsung Note to any iPhone. Take for instance in the Nigerian context, Tecno and other Android devices will out sell iPhone. You see, this theories operates only in vacuum. Besides, if my pickin go study accounting, I go flog hell comot from him body.

It'll surprise you to discover China is one of the biggest users of iPhone. iPhone actually sits as number 2 in the market index slightly behind Samsung but the company makes far more profit and dwarfs Samsung in revenue. That's the essence of the Op's message.

Samsung like all android OEM's source their Operating system from Google, Apple is in-house technology. That's why Samsung phones starts dropping price 3months after they hit retailers shelves and iPhone maintains its price for a far longer period.

PhonePlanet:
If you are among the 'rich' targeted by apple, 'pay' or 'buy' won't be a problem...

You don't get it do you? People want choice and flexibility, Apple is monotonous and confining btw everyone that uses an iPhone must'nt be 'rich' I am a hardworking wife whom God has been providing for my family's needs according to his riches in glory.

I don't have to conform or be shackled by consumerism just to belong

ollah1:
I had to log in to reply you. You made some points buh ruined it with some wrong statements.

If indeed ios is so smooth and extremely optimised why did their latest offerings debuted with 2GB RAM?

virtually all top oems have better cameras than iphones.

Bro, iOS is way smoother and stable than android in every department. IPhone uses 2gb ram because the operating system (OS) doesn't require beafy specs to run smoothly.

Android is on 4gb ram and octa core processors and benchmark still compares them to iPhone 6 and 6plus.

Iphone's finger print sensors that Samsung later applied starting with the galaxy S5 took the company up to the galaxy note 5 to perfect.

My Note 4 that's supposedly armed with 3gb ram, Qualcomm snapdragon 805 chipset with 8 processors still does the well known android freezing and involuntary coffee breaks momentarily.

micfranklin:
Nice, but like he said... Its for the rich. By the way... Watch out for windows phone(Lumia). Gosh so in love with it, cnt even imagine usin android that almost evry pry/sec studnt use. I can consider iPhone tho

mate it's not about rich or poor, its about flexibility and choice which it doesn't offer. I want to choose the music I listen to (naija gospel, osadebe etc), the book I read, how to store my data or have you forgotten how iCloud was hacked?

Not really a fan of Windows. I haven't used an android before but I can always dump it if I don't like it.

ollah1:
I had to log in to reply you. You made some points buh ruined it with some wrong statements.

If indeed ios is so smooth and extremely optimised why did their latest offerings debuted with 2GB RAM?

virtually all top oems have better cameras than iphones.

U fail to get my point. As at 2014, apples iPhone 6 was apples flagship and it had just 1gb of ram which ran lot smoother than an LG g3 with 3gb of ram after extensive usage. Apple iPhone 6 had 1gb of ram with a dual core processor and it still runs smoother than lots of android with octacore.... Can u just imagine that. Apple knew they will eventually increase the ram as at when due, but there's no point adding more RAM just for the sake of it. Apple iPhone 6 still runs smoothly even with the latest ios. They eventuly bumped up the ram with their iPhone 6s because they saw the need, more powerful and maybe because of the 3d touch. So ios is more optimized than android. Android is more functional, ios is more stable and gives less problem.

And as for the camera, the 8mp camera on the iPhone 6 is one of the top 3 camera phones of 2014. And of course u know there were lots of android phones with 13 and 16 megapixels in that year. I have seen a tecno phone with 13 megapixels and believe me my old lumia 920 with 8mp takes far better photos.

lezz:
Bro, iOS is way smoother and stable than android in every department. IPhone uses 2gb ram because the operating system (OS) doesn't require beafy specs to run smoothly.

Android is on 4gb ram and octa core processors and benchmark still compares them to iPhone 6 and 6plus.

Iphone's finger print sensors that Samsung later applied starting with the galaxy S5 took the company up to the galaxy note 5 to perfect.

My Note 4 that's supposedly armed with 3gb ram, Qualcomm snapdragon 805 chipset with 8 processors still does the well known android freezing and involuntary coffee breaks momentarily.

I disagree with you. Ios lags and freezes. Head over to imac and macrumours and read how users are lamenting about the OS. Android is like a virtual machine hence it's high speced nature.

Regarding processors, android uses muti cores to carry out its operations hence more cores while iOS needs only it's single core to get it done.

It was perfected on S6 and not the note 5. And don't make it look like Apple initiated finger print scanners on phones.

What's happening to your note 4 is touch wiz and not android.

PhonePlanet:
Its not too expensive for the rich and willing to spend


What makes iphone boring?

Most of those people just use i-phone to copy notes read BIBLE and snap pictures in church. Nothing innovative there.

AdaNri1:
mate it's not about rich or poor, its about flexibility and choice which it doesn't offer. I want to choose the music I listen to (naija gospel, osadebe etc), the book I read, how to store my data or have you forgotten how iCloud was hacked?

Not really a fan of Windows. I haven't used an android before but I can always dump it if I don't like it.

Yea i see ur point

AdaNri1:
You don't get it do you? People want choice and flexibility, Apple is monotonous and confining btw everyone that uses an iPhone must'nt be 'rich' I am a hardworking wife whom God has been providing for my family's needs according to his riches in glory.

I don't have to conform or be shackled by consumerism just to belong

Well I don't quite understand you now. But you see, apple has studied the rich man and what he wants(his choice) in making their products.

For example tell me what you don't like about the iphone

PhonePlanet:
I don't get?
I get but I don't get?

What is this?
I cannot laugh abeg
Greenhulk come and see o!

Honestly I just don't get it. I've tried to see how this relates to the topic but I got nothing. Sorry

PhonePlanet:
I don't get? I get but I don't get?
What is this? I cannot laugh abeg Greenhulk come and see o!

you can continue giggling while another operating system resurface

PhonePlanet:
Well I don't quite understand you now. But you see, apple has studied the rich man and what he wants(his choice) in making their products.

For example tell me what you don't like about the iphone

Yes, an African's need will be far from apple's case study, talk less of a middle class African. I like old Nigerian music which you can't find on iTunes (btw I also like rap, pop & country)

I don't trust iCloud enough to want to store data there for fear of 3rd party hacking. I like memory card.
There are some things you can't transfer from your old to new iPhone. Still haven't found a way to get all my contacts and pictures from my iPhone 4 and 5 because after updating iOS it crashed.
Just off the top of my head.

Bonethugss:
I beg to disagree, so long as Apple continues to target the rich class, it will continue to thrive. Rich folks all around the world, Nigeria inclusive, buy Apple products not for their features but because its a 'class thing'.
Secondly do you know that alot of companies in the us use Apple products as the official brand.
Employee are given iphones for work lines, macbook and imac for office systems and even in most of their universities to study programs like Engineering and audio visuals you must have a macbook.

that was what blackberry said few years back and they not the leader. The so called rich have taste and insatiable wants infact. human wants are unlimited . Research are being carried on daily bases to bring new ideas different from what we are seeing today.The only constant today is change

asuustrike2009:
you can continue giggling while another operating system resurface

You think it's as easy as abc

SMH

ollah1:
I disagree with you. Ios lags and freezes. Head over to imac and macrumours and read how users are lamenting about the OS. Android is like a virtual machine hence it's high speced nature.

Regarding processors, android uses muti cores to carry out its operations hence more cores while iOS needs only it's single core to get it done.

It was perfected on S6 and not the note 5. And don't make it look like Apple initiated finger print scanners on phones.

What's happening to your note 4 is touch wiz and not android.

I use a galaxy s6 and I commend Samsung for what they have done with touchwiz. But I won't deny that I love the iPhone as I've used the iPhone 6. It is battery smooth and rarely lags. The s6 still would give a hiccup sometimes especially while typing on a webpage, and many apps are opened, something u would rarely see on an iPhone. People will argue that iPhone lacks true multitasking, but if u ask me, between true multitasking and lack vs app switching and no lag, I'd rather choose app swicthing and no lag. For God's sake it is a mobile phone, there's really no point having app running in the background. This is why. 1gb iPhone would run smoother than lots of 3gb android FACT. U want true multitasking, that's what laptops are for.

But would I choose an iPhone over android? No.. Unless the iPhone is my second phone. But that is because I'm tech savvy and I like to explore. But majority of people out there just want a functional phone that just works. That is how apple sees the market and that is why they are able to sell 8 million iphones in 3 days.

greenhulk:
U fail to get my point. As at 2014, apples iPhone 6 was apples flagship and it had just 1gb of ram which ran lot smoother than an LG g3 with 3gb of ram after extensive usage. Apple iPhone 6 had 1gb of ram with a dual core processor and it still runs smoother than lots of android with octacore.... Can u just imagine that. Apple knew they will eventually increase the ram as at when due, but there's no point adding more RAM just for the sake of it. Apple iPhone 6 still runs smoothly even with the latest ios. They eventuly bumped up the ram with their iPhone 6s because they saw the need, more powerful and maybe because of the 3d touch. So ios is more optimized than android. Android is more functional, ios is more stable and gives less problem.

And as for the camera, the 8mp camera on the iPhone 6 is one of the top 3 camera phones of 2014. And of course u know there were lots of android phones with 13 and 16 megapixels in that year. I have seen a tecno phone with 13 megapixels and believe me my old lumia 920 with 8mp takes far better photos.

Iphone 6 ran smoother than LG G3, does that mean it runs smoother than other flagships? When iPhone 6 was leading some android phones in the camera department, what phones were on?


Since its smooth. They should just stick to dual cores and 1GB ram. iOS isn't more stable. It could be more optimized but it ain't more stable.

There u are mentioning tecno in this discussion.

greenhulk:
Honestly I just don't get it. I've tried to see how this relates to the topic but I got nothing. Sorry

Lol

Emeka71:
Most of those people just use i-phone to copy notes read BIBLE and snap pictures in church. Nothing innovative there.

I don't understand. What are you trying to say

PhonePlanet:
You think it's as easy as abc

SMH

that was blackberry said few years back where are they today? Nokia was number one but a slight mistake made them lost their shares so will iPhone make if they are not innovative enough. Years back BBC was topping the most watched international news channel but now they have dropped to lower scale. The world is changing on daily basis as man is coming up with new ideas to solve his problem.

asuustrike2009:
that was blackberry said few years back where are they today? Nokia was number one but a slight mistake made them lost their shares so will iPhone make if they are not innovative enough. Years back BBC was topping the most watched international news channel but now they have dropped to lower scale. The world is changing on daily basis as man is coming up with new ideas to solve his problem.

iPhone ain't going down anytime soon

PhonePlanet:
Oh yes! The said Android takes up 75% of shares in the mobile world, but how come Apple still makes more money from iPhone than these android companies?

There are many reasons to that which includes the 'one vs hundreds' thing but I just want to talk about one reason today, hopefully someone would learn something.



The reason is "TARGET CONSUMERS"

Leave phones, let's face business! I personally does not know much about business because I'm a science guy but my mom does, she finished as an accountant, and I do learn from her. One thing she told me is when starting up a business, you must have a target consumer! You can't sell to everybody.

You see, Apple has this, Apple target is "the rich and willing to spend" whereas Android manufacturers target "Everybody". So this is why Apple would take their time and build a device the rich would want to see, feel and use! This is why the Iphone from day 1 has always looked and felt premium, and obviously more expensive than most phones.

We all may argue that ios or the iPhone does not do so many things, but this is because it was not built for so many people, Apple instead of adding features upon features, concentrated on performance, less issues and customer support. In other words they build a device looking at what a rich man would want in phone. Note, a smaller target! This has made it far easier for them to have less issues, increased performance and best customer support, cos they don't have to built something for a wide range! Doing this makes you add more features and options, thereby reducing performance, support and increasing issue.

Take for example! Have you seen a man with just one child? Compare him with a man with seven children! With all things being equal, that one child would be brought up well to the parents taste or the way the parents wants a particular person or group of people, let's say their family members, to see that child than the seven children. That once child would "perform" better, "gain more support" and "give the parents or the family members less headache" than the seven, And the family with one child end up being richer than the one with 7. All things being equal again.

Think of it! A rich man won't care about battery life when he can always have power supply or far higher resolution screen when he does not watch movies on his phone, after all, a rich man should have a laptop, a TV with cable, and stroll down to the cinemas to see any movie he wants! And so on. Therefore, the first choice of phone for majority of rich men, is the iphone!

Android manufacturers on the other hand wants to make a phone for every and every human being in the world! Thereby adding a lot of features and options! And releasing numerous devices (like giving birth to 10 children). Making devices for the poor, and for the rich too! They can't give the rich as much performance and support, and they can give the poor an affordable device that truly speaks value for money and still does well, create a name, and own a specific market, NO! So each android manufacturer plays a game of risk each time they put out a phone! Will they buy? Will they not buy? Because of lack of focus or target, they don't have specific fans or consumers and always try to create a better phone each year to win the heart of a buyer! Therefore there is no grantee you can make all the money! Cos there would always be a set of people that prefers the other phone than yours!

On the other hand apple has created fans for themselves. Most people call the "iSheep"

This is why fans queue up to buy the new iphone, no one queues for android devices cos there are no fans! Even you reading this now claiming you are a fan, by the time another android manufacturer drops a better device, you will be the first to switch!

If apple fans and target consumers(the rich) takes up 30%, apple makes 30% of the total money in the industry, meanwhile hundreds of Android manufactures shares the remaining 60%, dragging for each single body with different tactics, different phones, no target, no fans.

If one android company can settle, set a target of let say probably the poor! Which is about 40%, meet it and create loyal ship, it might make more money than apple.

This is the same reason The google nexus sells more than other android phones in countries that its available in. And why "android one" project is doing so well, its because they have target consumers. One android manufacturer that came out with a target is "One Plus" and in just 2 years and only 3 phones in the market it is already one of the world most popular brand and made more sales than most android companies than has been existing for years, even still that their phones are sold via invitation only. Imagine if it was open to the market! That's how it works!

If you are thinking of starting a business, especially if it making of Phones, or just wondering why apple makes more on iphone than android companies do in android phones, I hope you have learnt something and I did not just make noise.

Thanks a bunch for this topic about standing out.I'm a shirtmaker,I design only shirts and that's the only area I cover in the fashion business.Although it's for both sex,I will like to ask what do you think I can do to stand out because virtually everybody makes shirts all around but one thing I know is they don't make shirts like I do.Am talking about taking my time to make sure the finishing is on point.So what else can I do?

asuustrike2009:
that was blackberry said few years back where are they today? Nokia was number one but a slight mistake made them lost their shares so will iPhone make if they are not innovative enough. Years back BBC was topping the most watched international news channel but now they have dropped to lower scale. The world is changing on daily basis as man is coming up with new ideas to solve his problem.

also what was Nokia's mistake.