bxcode:

Can you give me observable evidence to the fact that Israelites in their majority believe that Jesus didn't ever live among them?
As for believing that he is the messiah, that's quite understandable that not everyone will believe in him, majority won't as a matter of fact because he came to show them the truth and in the process countered a lot of their doctrines that makes them hardened towards God almighty.

bxcode:

Jesus has been prophesied about by some ancient prophets long before the existence of the Roman empire. During 300bc and thereabout, God inspired some men of old to prophesy of his coming and all the over 80 prophesies happened exactly the way they were told during the time of Jesus. Now tell me. Who could have been so meticulous in arranging those predated signs apart from God almighty himself?
The Roman empire even opposed the existence of Jesus going as far as killing his followers during the time of King Nero, so where did you get that fact that the existence of Jesus started with the Romans?

plaetton:


First, I am glad that you agree that god exist by virtue of your faith.
In other words, your faith created the god, with your specific qualities and needs.
After that statement, you needn't have commented further.
That's the problem with you half thinkers. Even when you're sincere, you quickly contradict yourself.

As for radio signals that I can't see, hear or touch, let me ask you; Is your god comparable or shall same qualities with radio signals ?
If yes, then why haven't Christians invented a receiver similar to a radio receiver to detect god ?

So god is now spirit ?
Since when?

Was he not recently resting and strolling in the garden with Adam, then hollering and bickering with Moses inside a mountain cave, then wrestling with Jacob in the wilderness ?

Then we heard that he had left the earth to his sky abode in heaven.

So now, he has just moved out to the spiri spiri world ?
I too have faith that my ancestors live in the spiri spiri realm, but I don't push it as factual truth.

That is something that you, an educated person, ought to know: that your faith is just your faith, not factual truths, just your faith, and nothing more.

When you believe or accept something on faith, such as you have honestly admitted, then trying so hard to magically transform such faith into factual truth is the grand FOLLY, the grand DELUSIONS that we Toothfairians take so much delight in mocking.

I hope you have learned something today.

hahn:


Lol. Dem don bobo you.

Do you mind giving evidence to back your claim?

bxcode:

Apart from the bible, ancient histological books attests to that. Google king Nero and the reports on the ancient Roman empire and how they torment the followers of Christ.

bxcode:

lol... I see your point, are only delighted in mocking.
Am not delighted in mocking you, as a matter of fact I don't care if you mock me or my faith and make a folly and rip me apart, I don't care bro. I only care that you know that these things are true, I have a whistle blower that tells me you know these things.... yet.
You see the bible wasn't mistaken when it says a lot of things it said about those that will twist the truth and promote self acclaimed wisdom and intelect, we have seen them and so am not surprised at all.
Honestly I can't go and argue with you because you already have a prejudiced judgement on these things which you won't just give up easily. You will only take up anything I say and twist it.
As for the illustration I gave you with radio signal, which you twisted and started asking if God is a radio signal, that was simply more using a human case scenario to make you think that if such is obtainable in our own capacity, Nugent how much more God. As for the receiver, yes we a receiver that we user to communicate with him, and that's God's word as contained in the bible. I know you don't believe in that also, so don't try to let me know that aii.
There are so many things about God that even I myself can't decipher, not in my lifetime. But I know he exists because I see his glory all around me, from the tiniest of ants to the firmament, to the universe in general. It could only take an intelligent being somewhere to have carefully created all these things each with its unique characters.
He is alive bro.
Hope ya day is moving on fine?

plaetton:


There is no mention of Jesus in the annals of Jewish history.
If Jesus had existed, even as a rebel, amongst them, no doubt he would have featured prominently in their culture and religious literature.

If the majority of Jews don't believe in this saviour, son of god crap, then why do the majority of Africans, including you , do ?
That's why I asked, are YOU, Nigerian Christians , privy to something that the majority of the Jewish people all over the world are oblivious to ?

Pls try and answer.

plaetton:


You don't get it dude.

In my language, they would say that you just cooked a good soup, but then you covered it with dirty cloth.

Your faith is yours., but your faith is not truth, and could possibly be the furthest thing from truth.
That is the main reason you call it faith.

Faith is like building a closet around yourself ,and then demanding that everyone must come and live in it with you.

"My bible.., my bible,..".
What you actually mean is my Bible.., my Babble.
Your Bible is simply your own Babble.

When christians painfully come to this realization, then our job here would be done.

bxcode:

Lol fear if afterlife.... lolzzz
Am ready to die the next second bro for what I believe in. Perfect love casts out fear. I know where am going bro by faith.
So you know you will meet him in the afterlife but still thinks he dosent exist here? Bro that's some thinking there honestly, don't you see the deception in what you just said?

bxcode:

Where is your hope sir? In who?

menesheh:


No amount of believe makes something a fact. you have to first live your life the best you can make out of it and stop worrying about afterlife of which you are aware that there is zero evidence to such ideology. The only evidence there is in is that it was written in a book some thousands of years by a culture, enforced for everyone to believe by an empire via sword. Nothing more or less.

menesheh:


No amount of believe makes something a fact. you have to first live your life the best you can make out of it and stop worrying about afterlife of which you are aware that there is zero evidence to such ideology. The only evidence there is in is that it was written in a book some thousands of years by a culture, enforced for everyone to believe by an empire via sword. Nothing more or less.

bxcode:

Where is your hope sir? In who?

bxcode:

Hahahahaha..... You really have a good sense of humor.
Am driving sir, I will quote you later this evening, till then.
Stay cool.

texanomaly:
An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned
to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike
up a conversation with your fellow passenger."

The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total
stranger, "What would you want to talk about?"

"Oh, I don't know," said the atheist. "How about why there is no God,
or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly.

"Okay," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask
you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same
stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns
out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"

The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence,
thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea." To which
the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss
God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don't know crap?"

And then she went back to reading her book.

Thoniameek:

So, mr. sonofGod that is only how you see God and not truly who he is. You would understand this if only you believed.......

hahn:


Ok. Thanks. I'll google it up.

I'd advice you google up "the spanish inquisition" and "the crusades" to read up how the followers of Christ tormented, killed , raped, enslaved and murdered Jews, Muslims and other "non-believers" on behalf of the god you serve.

Richirich713:


I advise u to Google Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, Jeffrey Dahmer, Napoleon Bonaparte etc

They were all atheists who followed your views, such as: there's no God, raped or murder is not really wrong etc it's just an illusion.

Jeffrey Dahmer, an infamous serial killer and atheist sentenced to 900 years in prison, said “if a person doesn’t think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges?”.

This was voted quote of the year in the council of atheists. I read this in the same book u read that says Jesus was created at the council of nicea.

That same historical scholar apparently said Josephus , Tacitus, Pliny the Younger , Phlegon, Lucian, Celsus , Mara Bar Serapion, Suetonius, and Thallus were all on pot for believing Jesus existed.

This same scholar apparently also said all the 99% of historical scholars today who believe Jesus crucifixion is a fact(let alone his existence) are also on pot.

bxcode:

I know he exists by faith. You are actually basing your existence of God on what you can see, touch, feel, smell and so on. So since you can't see him with your eyes, then he dosent exist. Am saying this in love, but how dumb can you get and still breathe.
Lemme ask you, the radio signals around you, do you see them? But does that mean that they don't exist?
Your little peanut brain haven't yet figured out a lot of things about you yourself and yet you want God to show up and prove to you that he exists before you stamp your seal on his shaky existence so that he will be happy that you have approved him. smh
Sir God is a spirit and you need to understand that, we are humans limited by this our earthen body. If you wanna know God you got to do it the right way and not by waving off and ridiculing everything about him. As a matter of fact that's the freewill you have, so diss him, spite him, keep spreading the propaganda about him. It's not your fault bro, for they profess themselves to be wise yet they are foolish with their assumptions and philosophies.... I love you bro honestly and how I wish we can sit down someday, all of you guys and dialogue constructively on this. When will you open up your heart at least to see this differently. Thanks for the comments bro....

bxcode:

Can you give me observable evidence to the fact that Israelites in their majority believe that Jesus didn't ever live among them?
As for believing that he is the messiah, that's quite understandable that not everyone will believe in him, majority won't as a matter of fact because he came to show them the truth and in the process countered a lot of their doctrines that makes them hardened towards God almighty.

plaetton:


Hope in what ?

The human potential.
A potential that primitive , stone age mythologies(calling themselves religigion) have tended to reta.rd

bxcode:

At any point this dialogue will condescend to the level of spiteful remarks, I will have to simply let it be bro, it's never my intention to cause any form of anger, nor strife over the cause of this dialogue.
Good eve.

johnydon22:

Hope for what?

But if hope should be rightly placed it should be in Myself..

Humans, family, friends, children, potentials of humanity to turn out good and many others.

I may have hopes in many things but it should never include imaginary things or unsure vague concepts ..

When have people's life become so bleak that they need to conjure imaginary things to place their hopes

frank317:


OK, this one is comparing God with radio signal. Lol... Radio signal is more real than your God. Your God lives in ur mind does radio signal live in the mind?

You believe God by faith... Then you should park well and keep quiet. Next time you see Muslims who believe in Mohammed or Allah by faith give them a hug.

bxcode:

So you believe you are all that is to be when it comes to existence, that there is no supreme being who gave you the life you are living today?
Since You said you put hope in yourself, do You think you as a human being have the capacity to explicitly achieve anything you think of, independent of any help from God?
What do you actually believe in?

frank317:


A whole all powerful came down to earth to save mankind and many people dont believe and you dont find it suspicious or troubling? Isn't it time you start looking into the competence of this your God?

plaetton:

No no, sir.
Actually, my dear friend, it's been a pleasure discussing/ debating with you.
I have ZERO anger or disrespect towards you.
I Think you are more honest and humble than most of the folks I jaw jaw with here on this section.

plaetton:

Yes. Man is the master of his destiny, for good or for bad.
No skydaddy, no Toothfairy required.

Just look at the March of human civilization. Look how far we have come, from where we have been, with all our mistakes. We have come this far all alone.
Intact, we can even say that the beliefs in skyfairys has greatly slowed and ret.arded our progress as equal citizens of the stars.

bxcode:

Yea man has a hand in his destiny because as a man thinks in his heart, so is he.
But sir, if the March of human civilization have been all that cosy? Why are we having increased crime rate and devilish acts and increased wickedness in high places and wanton greed and acts of selfishness?
I know you will bring in religion but before you do, mind you that religion also began with men and not with God. So why are you attributing our actions and it's consequences to the perfect God?

bxcode:

Sir you misunderstood me, am not saying God is equal to radio signal, all I was trying to do was simply let him see that if you actually can't see the things that are very obtainable to you in our human comprehension and yet they exist, then why would you write of the possibility that God exist despite the fact that you can't see him with your naked eyes? where does that leave you on the scale of logic and reasoning?

bxcode:

No no no sir, speak for yourself alone and don't generalise the philosophy you believe in. Actually the percentage of atheist to theist is recorded at 14% to 82%. So going by this your logic, I can humbly tell you that majority of humanity actually believe that God exists sir.... but that's not my main point.
My point is that the fact that the way atheist looks at God is quite understandable because some of you guys actually stated off as theists and along the line started believing differently based on life experiences, religious hypocrisy and the evils in the world today. But the thing is, why do you guys because of the actions and choices of man, attribute those consequence to God and in the process say that since allows such inhumane and wanton deed to flourish, then he dosent exits.
If God dosent exist, then who takes his position as the supreme being?