₦airaland Forum

The problem of tribalism lies much much deeper than this proposal can realistically address. We as Nigerians need to see one another as having exactly the same Socio-economic and political rights wherever we find ourselves in the country.

Call me pessimistic but this will not happen in the next millennium.

Good radiance to bad rubbish I accept the trend that the VP is trying to implement STATE OF RESIDENCE has come to stay. I happen to be a victim when I was denied my place in the western state of NIGERIA after investing so much born and bred in the West ,education in the West, When placement showed up in the ministry I was denied that am not from the west. This has got to stop and the issue of sectoriality has to be abolished. And apply holistic effort in making sure that all ethnic groups are represented in any parastatal in governance. I LOVE MY COUNTRY NIGERIA and won't be perturbed by some bigot who believe NIGERIA is a Sectoral state. LET IT STAND. If US President Barack Obama can appoint Nigerian-born Adewale “Wally” Adeyemo as deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs and a Nigerian-American journalist and Anti-human Trafficking advocate, Bukola Love Oriola as a member of the US Advisory Council on Human Trafficking. Likewise A Nigerian, Jude O Nkama made history on January 6th as he became the first African to be appointed as a judge in the 349 year history of the city and State of New Jersey .This are changes we want and is achievable in my DEAR COUNTRY NIGERIA.
LONG LIVE THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
LONG LIVE ALL THE ETHNIC GROUPS IN NIGERIA
LONG LIVE ALL THOSE THAT WANT THE PROGRESS OF THE GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS.
GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY.

Please check the edited post.

bidemi12:
Why?

shota:
Modakeke bitter war with the Ife is due to the same problem . Yoruba people will never understand that their tribalism is the cause of Naija problem . They want another man's resources to develop their land for themselves . Fools can't even see that they can be Yoruba in England USA or even in China and still be citizens of those places . They are too daft to understand that residency status does not remove their Yoruba ID .

. May Thunder fire your yansh for calling us fools, Ogun den ma pa e lale yi fun ikon to soyi oloriburuku oshi.

StuntingBlack:
I hope our dear VP realizes that he will save himself a lot of time and respect by participating in finding solutions to the present state of the economy rather than delve into trivial issues such as indigene or residence rights with serious potential consequences that wont go down well with everybody. As a learned individual, he should sure know by now that such proposition wont fly 'cos I see NO concrete reason why I must share the same right with one bloody & homeless stranger without ties to my lineage.

THE SAME WAY A MAN IS FREE TO CHOOSE WHERE HE COMES FROM IS ALSO THE SAME WAY THE PEOPLE THERE ARE FREE TO REJECT HIM AS A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY. This shouldnt be hard to grasp Sir, VP Osinbajo, or is it? .

Moreover, the success of a nation depends on the commitment of the people to DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY, not on some laws that gives some indigenes and foreigners same rights.!!

YOU ARE A FOOL! I don't care what Nairaland moderators say or do. You are a direct example why Africa will never progress until the lot of you (the majority) die off this earth. Let me tell you starkly ignorant person, no one is a stranger in any part of the country to which he legally originates in the world of 2015. You may relish the savage days of your ancestors where they differentiate "indigene/settler" but sadly, we live in the modern world where humanity is divided into COUNTRIES and every citizen of each country has all the rights of anyone else in that same country. Your so-called education has been a waste but take solace in the fact that most Nigerians are also as dumb as you. I weep for this country; I wish I was never an African - they're just a step higher than the apes: fact!

bidemi12:
I don't understand. There are no laws saying you can't do any of the things you have said above.

well the integration program that i know about use to be NYSC and Nigerians are more divided than before and you can divide Nigerians in 5mins if you want to when you meet with them .How many Nigerian languages do you speak?Do you have friends from all over Nigeria.some Nigerians cannot marry other Nigerians because of cultural beliefs.We need an official language that will include the major languages spoken in Nigeria apart from English.It will be compulsory for you to speak ,read with the language of your country.The CRK and IRK divides students from secondary school.

Nope we dnt like this move by the FG. When we have more pressing issues to address, this sensitive issue should be left as it is.

Nigeria is not ready for state of residence. Every state is identifiable by its indigenes. Its better that way and should be left as it is.

gohome:
We will initiate policies to ensure that Nigerians are free to live and work in any part of the country by removing state of origin, tribe, ethnic and religious affiliations and replace those with state of residence.
#VoteChange #ChangeIsHere

Prof. Yemi Osinbade

Is this not change ladies and gentlemen?
Confab report working I think

mynd44
Lalasticlala

Its about time

This is a good development but it will change the next generation mentality with the way they see each other but for us we know the BIAFROWNS

GspotAngela:
Exactly
So the essence of it all is to submerge some ethnic group that do not conform, right? I am a Nupe, how am i sure that my tribe being a minority ethnic group wouldnt be, in your own words again, ''off in less than a 100 years time''. If that is the case, then i am not sorry to say that you and your VP that made that proposition are both sick.

As for China, there are six spoken Chinese dialects not two, viz : Cantonese, Mandarin, Wu, Xiang, Gan, Min, and Hakka. The first two are spoken by the Han Chinese, the major Chinese tribe, in Hongkong, Mainland China, and Taiwan, while the other 55 minority Chinese ethnic group still retain their own dialect

For you to move forward as a nation, tribal sentiments will have to be submerged if not eliminated.

Darwin will always win.your tribe Nupe did not start with the earth and with all due respect will not end with the earth. It's just a matter of time. Your tribe Nupe lost the battle a long time ago when it allowed the British to conquer you and form a country for you, Nigeria. They told you to shun your king and report to the queen and afterwards the president of Nigeria. At that point, a new culture was born, the Nigerian identity. To nurture that identity, you can't serve two masters. One have to give in. Nupe has to give in to Nigeria.... or Nigeria to Nupe.

Unfortunately for you we live in a modern world where we are divided along countries and not tribes. countries that mean business do not have tribes, that's why they are advance and developed. You want to join them, you have to learn how they play.

gohome:
We will initiate policies to ensure that Nigerians are free to live and work in any part of the country by removing state of origin, tribe, ethnic and religious affiliations and replace those with state of residence.
#VoteChange #ChangeIsHere

Prof. Yemi Osinbade

Is this not change ladies and gentlemen?
Confab report working I think

mynd44
Lalasticlala

that doesn't change our belief and orientation but am sure it will work only in lagos

thats lovely my dear

HopeAtHand:
Nope we dnt like this move by the FG. When we have more pressing issues to address, this sensitive issue should be left as it is.

Nigeria is not ready for state of residence. Every state is identifiable by its indigenes. Its better that way and should be left as it is.

I doubt if its going to have any effect in Nigerians mind. Nigerians will always want to know where who they are dealing it hails from. hence not really curtailing the problem the FG is trying to remove.

Government of will and by the will and for the will.

PRYCE:
Perfect! Just perfect!

As much as I support this, Nigeria is too fragile for this!... Our various ethnic groups can't even stand each other... how do they hope to make it work?

Cos this means A Northerner can go become a governor in the east, an easterner in the west, A westerner in the north and so on!

Tribalism will so increase cos peoples will now have this zeal to look out for their tribesmen if they feel they are being Dominated "in their own land"!

True.But tnk God my surname is very popular dem go just think say Jagaban na my papa.

PRYCE:
Perfect! Just perfect!

As much as I support this, Nigeria is too fragile for this!... Our various ethnic groups can't even stand each other... how do they hope to make it work?

Cos this means A Northerner can go become a governor in the east, an easterner in the west, A westerner in the north and so on!

Tribalism will so increase cos peoples will now have this zeal to look out for their tribesmen if they feel they are being Dominated "in their own land"!

True.Tnk God my surname is very popular dem go just think say Jagaban na my papa.

Now I know why what happened in kwara happened, most Yoruba leaders are just took dumb!

Lagos is being labeled as NO MAN'S LAND without state of residence, what will now happen with it?

haconjy:
so that the Fulani will come and overthrow you like the way they did in kwara....
I pity the southerners because they will suffer it most especially my tribe...Yoruba...
think twice o

gohome:
We will initiate policies to ensure that Nigerians are free to live and work in any part of the country by removing state of origin, tribe, ethnic and religious affiliations and replace those with state of residence.
#VoteChange #ChangeIsHere

Prof. Yemi Osinbade

Is this not change ladies and gentlemen?
Confab report working I think

mynd44
Lalasticlala

And the date on the facebook post is 8th January 2015.

How many promises has APC fulfilled ?

Random post..

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shota:
Modakeke bitter war with the Ife is due to the same problem . Yoruba people will never understand that their tribalism is the cause of Naija problem . They want another man's resources to develop their land for themselves . Fools can't even see that they can be Yoruba in England USA or even in China and still be citizens of those places . They are too daft to understand that residency status does not remove their Yoruba ID .

[/s]dumbfvck
No Wonder your life is miserable. Tribal ediot

To my mind. D post by Prof Osinbanjo was dated 5th Jan 2015, which was before he was sworn in, so making it a mere manifesto/promise which anybody can make. That doesnt mean d Federal Govt. has approved it. So na mere promise.

Is confab report to be adopted in piecemeal?

It won't work. U think a. Yoruba man will comfortable work for an igbo man as his junior in yoruba land. Most especially in state owned offices?

ToyinDipo:
I still maintain you know nothing about what you are saying, you don't need to get aggressive because I disproof your point. Please argue intelligibly. Like I told you there is still the case of majority and minority in US, note that. Move away from history channel, plug your hand into the nearest electric socket, and get current. I will not continue this argument with you if you continue to sound like ignoramus. I will have liked to discuss with you extensively what happened and happens in America, places like former east/west Germany, north/south Korea, Spain... but you seem not to worth my energy. There are some fundamental/inherent issue that needs to be thrashed out, but unfortunately can't be, when dealing with tribalism... that's fact

Enjoy your life mister

Atlantian:
I always knew I would contest for Governorship of Lagos State. I have lived here for almost 10yrs, I should have the right to vote and importantly be voted for, as Governor of Lagos State.

To prove how small our minds are, can you tell me who stopped you from contesting for governor of Lagos? Voters will vote and no law in the world can tell someone what to like. Just for the record, some people of Ibo origin are representing parts of Lagos in the Federal House of Reps. Black man is still a savage and was never supposed to know there was a modern world. Nothing stopped the Western world from just coming here, defeating us militarily, and taken whatever resources they needed and left us as we were. Would have been better for us as we are not ready to progress

DARKLIGHT:
I think that move or policy intended to be implement is to frustrate Biafra's struggle for self-determination.

This self determination does not make sense and you need to just get it ,you people will be land locked and will engage in cross border crimes into Nigeria.You cannot have absolute advantage of any product, and need Nigeria and other neighbors.why dont you just think of a true federation.

the only problem that it would solve is gaining admmision in school, beleve it or not people with northern state of origin have more chances of getting admsn and vise varsa ( catchment area )

Lionsclaw:
It is mediocrity to say that 'we have to leave with that'. Leave with a hurriedly arranged and motive based system of coexistence?

It took america, Lincoln and co, almost a decade to package a good enough constititution such that the great multiplicity of ethnicity in America makes no difference, even till tomorrow

Now that we are better civilized why not everyone sit and draft a near perfect referandum to help us stay together.

Have u read this wise comment:

ToyinDipo:
This is fundamentally wrong. If you want to kick against tribalism (if at all it's possible), you start from the basis. I'm not necessarily being tribal, but I'm a Yoruba first, before I'm a Nigerian. That's fact, and no one can take that identity away from me. It's a pity that the colonial masters formed Nigeria (African countries) the way they did, grouping major tribes(people with different identities) together. Though we've got to live with that. This is not so in most western countries. That's why we hardly here of tribal unrest among them. If western countries were formed like we have in Spain and such, they will also be singing the same song we sing in Africa. Left to me tribalism can't be ended, same with racism, this act will only create an avenue where tornado meets with volcano.

shota:
Modakeke bitter war with the Ife is due to the same problem . Yoruba people will never understand that their tribalism is the cause of Naija problem . They want another man's resources to develop their land for themselves . Fools can't even see that they can be Yoruba in England USA or even in China and still be citizens of those places . They are too daft to understand that residency status does not remove their Yoruba ID .

Nigeria's problem started with two igbo men: Ironsi and ojukwu

I have to stop reading this thread as it will cause me further pain. I know we are savages but it helps if I don't see examples where they justify their SOCIETAL BACKWARDNESS

Regardless of when he said it - for Osinbajo to even say this, it shows he's a blockhead. Osinbajo and GEJ have to be the two biggest duffers with Ph.D degree. He's a clown.

This was the same way they promulgated the destructive unitary government that has ended up throwing the country into a journey of no return from abyss. It seems these folks are hell bent on causing a civil war in that country due to their stupidity.

Why would any sane person want to replace folks' real identity, without a fictitious one that only exist on paper? Do these people even know the differences between identity and nationality; people's innate cultural/traditional affinity to their ancestral lands; basics of mutual co-existence/respect; and territorial integrity?

Osinbajo is a clown for suggesting the idea, even if he did twenty years ago. And this clown is the VP of the country.

By their surname you shall know them