artboll:

Actually,there have been strikes over the state of hospitals and healthcare. I wish you've heard of ARD strikes at FMC,Owerri(I hope this is correct cos its been kinda long) where the Doctors went on strike over poor state of hospital facilities and called for the sack of the CMD. Also,it goes to show how caring(pretentious or not) Drs are when going on strike as they tend to bring the state of health facilities to the public knowledge. I doubt JOHESU will ever mind if hospitals turn to 'rat-houses' as long as they're paid higher than Doctors. You also mentioned the Osun debacle;if the NMA hadn't gone on strike,would you or the rest of Nigeria had known that a Governor of an APC state that had received its bailout funds decided to cut the salaries of its civil servants by half,while politicians still got their full numerations as well as their enrichments for corruption?(NO). The leaderships of JOHESU as well as other unions have probably had their hands greased and so kept silent,but as its always been,the NMA said NO.
Don't you sometimes wonder why no Doctor will ever criticize an NMA decision. Its because its never for just themselves,but for future doctors,the patients and the health sector in general,and sometimes(like in the Osun state example),the general public.



I'm not an ardent supporter of Johesu, ( don't knw why nurses are still part ) but I dnt support hypocrisy either. The Owerri issue was a joint case by all health workers nt just Drs against the highly corrupt CMD.
None is better than the other. And I'av actually never come across where the johesu asked for pays highter than Drs but an improvement in renumeration and better work environment among others, somethn tht seems to bother the Drs, still wondering why.

The Osun strike has nothing to do wt the populace but the Drs who were paid half salary and owed some salaries note tht this didn't affect Drs only. I understand their plight tho. U can see u also like playing d sympathy card? One thing I like abt NMA is how they are so gud at fighting for themselves,when they ain't busy antagonizing others growth, so drop d sympathy card and no, I dnt trust Johesu leaders or even nursing leaders at tht.

SenorMcSlyl:
Forget it dude, i now see clearly that wherever the title "Dr" is been mentioned you catch cold. Little wonder objective analysis is beyond you. You are a JOHESU sympathiser, if not so why the sudden reference to "Drs". And for you info nobody is comparing here, there is no levelled pedestal for that.

gearcoin:

Thank God that you atleast know some paramedic do calls. So which among paramedic doest do calls ?
The question to ask when doctor salary were increase does paramedics salary increased?

olowodaddy:
Some people just talking rubbish. Who is asking for Doctor's pay. I don't regret being a radiographer. Truth is apart from those in federal, most doctors earn less than me. Infact I pity most Doctor's especially those in private still collecting 100k monthly after combining 2 jobs. The point of the strike is this; NMA & FG REACHED AN AGREEMENT, JOHESU & FG ALSO REACHED AN AGREEMENT. FG HAS LONG iMPLEMENTED ITS AGREEMENT WITH NMA BUT HAS REFUSED TO IMPLEMENT JOHESU'S. Give me a better definition of bias.

otswag:
oga! If u really are not getting the pay u deserve according to the law, proceed with your protest and stop acting like we are the ones holding your pay. No dey ask me that kain jamb question

doveda:


God will not

That is what is happening everywhere

It is basic economics and politics. The paramedian knew before hand but decided to stick with it. In other clime, they don't have to go to school, they can also go through a training route. The amount might be too small however you should not compare it with the doctor's. Regardless, there are other things in life that matter more.

SIRTee15:


u are the one lying to the public.
during johesu strikes laboratory doctors take over the labs.
the cmd do not support that nonsense of locking the doors and going away with the key.
there's nothing they do in blood bank that haematologist cannot perform.

HaneefahRN:


He wasn't talking abt the paramedics tht man ambulances and perform basic first aid on pts. Sometimes other health workers apart from Drs, nurses, pharmacists are called paramedics e. g radiographers, physiotherapists, etc. Nt sure where d lab scientists fall. There is always a form of relativity everywhere and we all knw how crazily expensive medical sch is and their crazy hrs

doveda:


God will not

That is what is happening everywhere

It is basic economics and politics. The paramedian knew before hand but decided to stick with it. In other clime, they don't have to go to school, they can also go through a training route. The amount might be too small however you should not compare it with the doctor's. Regardless, there are other things in life that matter more.

gottrillions:

And the radiographers working for doctors in private settings collecting how much?

TheArchangel:
Blinded by prejudice, hardly!!!! Consultants are the professionals patients are assigned to especially in a teaching hospital, the HOs, reg and senior reg are just their students and lackeys who are supposed to be monitored but are giving a leeway in Nigerian hospital to commit medical blunders.
I am not twisting issues, stating it as it is.

HaneefahRN:


He wasn't talking abt the paramedics tht man ambulances and perform basic first aid on pts. Sometimes other health workers apart from Drs, nurses, pharmacists are called paramedics e. g radiographers, physiotherapists, etc. Nt sure where d lab scientists fall. There is always a form of relativity everywhere and we all knw how crazily expensive medical sch is and their crazy hrs

gearcoin:

I can now see your level of ignorance. Let see what u will do if the johesu wish is granted.
Who are doctors self ?

Drdonzeez:
It seems people misconstrue allied for paramedic.

doveda:


I am not a doctor

I pray it is granted.

doveda:




Are you kidding?

Nigeria is indeed messed up

nelszx:


Please which lab are you talking about? Who are the personnel in the supposed lab? Except u r talking of a lab that I don't know of oo. But as far as I'm concerned even the CMD cannot open the lab during strike. Let alone fill the place with which stupid lab doctors. Come try am for FMC and see if you won't be lynched. Lab doctors my foot no such thing as that. The Laboratory is now solely for Medical Laboratory Scientist.
No annoy me this night oo

HaneefahRN:


Yh, u're right, allied health peofessionals are sometimes erroneously called paramedics. The paramedics are a set of health workers altogether who mostly work outside d hospital setting

artboll:

Well,apparently you are a nurse. In the Nigerian civil service currently,nurses are employed at Grade level 8 (CONHESS) just like Pharmacists and MLScientists. If tomorrow,lab technicians,who are employed at level 6 or 7(can't really remember) start agitating for employment at level 8,won't you be against it,or at least ask to be employed at a higher grade?

TheArchangel:
You don't get it, do you.? A specialty you are not licensed in you should not roam free irrespective of the number of procedures/ surgeries you've performed. The case is still under a consultant and the consultant monitors the procedures specifically covered in his specialty. As a general surgery resident, all the surgeries performed are under the consultant's name and none under the resident's name and no resident can perform surgery outside of their training facility cos they are not authorised and licensed. Doing that is tantamount to quackery, pure and simple.

SIRTee15:


I ve worked in 3 federal establishments, laboratory doctors process samples during johesu strikes. Nobody stops them, management don't tolerate such nonsense.
I remember when some MLS tried it in the FMC I worked, SSS was invited to arrest them for vandalizing govt properties.
Besides why should u take away lab keys when u are on strike. Are the labs ur personal property?
When doctors go on strike, they don't lock up the Wards or clinics, whoever is interested in taking over is free to do so.
If u guys think u are indispensable, leave the lab open and watch whether it won't function.


Don't worry, u guys should Continue this silly trend, and see privatisation take over.

HaneefahRN:


Love u so much, privatisation of all aspects of healthcare shld be implemented. And while at it policies shld be made to ensure all professionals are allowed to work as licensed to and according to their work descriptions and what obtains in the saner World. Let's all reap what we sow. Only tht the poor populace will suffer more

HaneefahRN:



U guys are selfish admit it! What lvl do Drs come in in the CONMESS? Lvl 13 wt more incentives, the graduate nurse has to work for close to 10yrs b4 he or she can take home the medical intern's salary. These pple want to skip lvl 10 wc alot of professionals in civil service skip actually, bt the Drs who are earning high relatively anyway comes up to tell d govt they'll strike if johesu is answered. Johesu won obviously bt it was never implemented.

SIRTee15:


residency training is an opportunity for advanced medical training in a specialty area of interest.
Resident are medical doctors with a license to see and attend to patients.
they are liable and can be sued for incompetence because they are doctors and not students.
[b]senior registrars in Nigeria is the equivalent of an attending specialist in the us a[/b]nd high level of autonomy and competence is expected from them in that specialty.
In fact a SR with west Africa college of physician can work as a consultant/specialist in a district hospital.
please go and read about residency training in Nigeria because its obvious u are in the dark.

SIRTee15:


I ve worked in 3 federal establishments, laboratory doctors process samples during johesu strikes. Nobody stops them, management don't tolerate such nonsense.
I remember when some MLS tried it in the FMC I worked, SSS was invited to arrest them for vandalizing govt properties.
Besides why should u take away lab keys when u are on strike. Are the labs ur personal property?
When doctors go on strike, they don't lock up the Wards or clinics, whoever is interested in taking over is free to do so.
If u guys think u are indispensable, leave the lab open and watch whether it won't function.


Don't worry, u guys should Continue this silly trend, and see privatisation take over.

Tbamo:

it's not bias. if I was FG I would sit down and think which group would affect the polity more if we don't satisfy them!
well the answer is before you! you guys will go on strike and life will continue, when you see that the world is not coming down you will take to illegal actions like locking up important access points in the hospitals and denying access to th keys when these don't work you move on to barbarism by attacking doctors ( abeokuta 2013 June, Uniport sept2014 etc) when this also does not work you will start to intimidate pts u all so claim to love!

artboll:

Madam,I think you should read more about health sector workers and the different factors at play. Doctors begin at Level 9,staff nurses at 7 and B.Sc Nursing at 8. I have an aunt who earns as much as a resident while she's a nursing officer at a federal teaching hospital,and she hasn't spent 10 yrs. And I think you should ask your colleagues the real reason Johesu is going on strike cos it seems you don't know,and pls don't get carried away by their press statement,you should know better.

TheArchangel:
Plf argue with what you knowat the emboldened. Thanks.

nelszx:


Sorry pls I want to get u right who are these Laboratory doctors u talk about? Dats 1
2. During strike the keys are submitted to the CMD and not taken home
Pls enlighten me on the first question

SIRTee15:

Residency training in the us is 3 yrs after completion u become an attending physician. U are deemed a specialist and can practice as one or go for sub-specialty.
Residency in nigeria is 6 years. 3 yrs as a junior resident And then 3 yrs as a senior resident when u go for ur sub-specialty.
Pls argue with fact, the internet is free for use otherwise stop quoting me.