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Jusmudi:
The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments
When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be. At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5). (Luke 12:2–5).
Augustine said, in The City of God, that "temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment" (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: "I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper" (Luke 12:59).

Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not benefit from prayers, as would be the case if she were in hell or in the full glory of heaven.
Nor does ascribing the doctrine to Gregory explain the graffiti in the catacombs, where Christians during the persecutions of the first three centuries recorded prayers for the dead. Indeed, some of the earliest Christian writings outside the New Testament, like the Acts of Paul and Thecla and the Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (both written during the second century), refer to the Christian practice of praying for the dead. Such prayers would have been offered only if Christians believed in purgatory, even if they did not use that name for it. (See Catholic Answers’ Fathers Know Best tract The Existence of Purgatory for quotations from these and other early Christian sources.)

Why No Protests?Whenever a date is set for the "invention" of purgatory, you can point to historical evidence to show the doctrine was in existence before that date. Besides, if at some point the doctrine was pulled out of a clerical hat, why does ecclesiastical history record no protest against it?

A study of the history of doctrines indicates that Christians in the first centuries were up in arms (sometimes quite literally) if anyone suggested the least change in beliefs. They were extremely conservative people who tested a doctrine’s truth by asking, Was this believed by our ancestors? Was it handed on from the apostles? Surely belief in purgatory would be considered a great change, if it had not been believed from the first—so where are the records of protests?

They don’t exist. There is no hint at all, in the oldest writings available to us (or in later ones, for that matter), that "true believers" in the immediate post-apostolic years spoke of purgatory as a novel doctrine. They must have understood that the oral teaching of the oral teaching of the apostles, what Catholics call tradition, and the Bible not only failed to contradict the doctrine, but, in fact, confirmed it.
It is no wonder, then, that those who deny the existence of purgatory tend to touch upon only briefly the history of the belief. They prefer to claim that the Bible speaks only of heaven and hell. Wrong. It speaks plainly of a third condition, commonly called the limbo of the Fathers, where the just who had died before the redemption were waiting for heaven to bethe redemption were waiting for heaven to be opened to them. After his death and before his resurrection, Christ visited those experiencing the limbo of the Fathers and preached to them the good news that heaven would now be opened to them (1 Pet. 3:19). These people thus were not in heaven, but neither were they experiencing the torments of hell.
Some have speculated that the limbo of the Fathers is the same as purgatory. This may or may not be the case. However, even if the limbo of the Fathers is not purgatory, its existence shows that a temporary, intermediate state is not contrary to Scripture. Look at it this way. If the limbo of the Fathers was purgatory, then this one verse directly teaches the existence of purgatory. If the limbo of the Fathers was a different temporary state, then the Bible at least says such a state can exist. It proves there can be more than just heaven and hell.

"Purgatory Not in Scripture"
Some Fundamentalists also charge, as though it actually proved something, "The word purgatory is nowhere found in Scripture." This is true, and yet it does not disprove the existence of purgatory or the fact that belief in it has always been part of Church teaching. The words Trinity and Incarnation aren’t in Scripture either, yet those doctrines are clearly taught in it. Likewise, Scripture teaches that purgatory exists, even if it doesn’t use that word and even if 1 Peter 3:19 refers to a place other than purgatory.
Christ refers to the sinner who "will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can come" (Matt. 12:32), suggesting that one can be freed after death of the consequences of one’s sins. Similarly, Paul tells us that, when we are judged, each man’s work will be tried. And what happens if a righteous man’s work fails the test? "He will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire" (1 Cor 3:15). Now this loss, this penalty, can’t refer to consignment to hell, since no one is saved there; and heaven can’t be meant, since there is no suffering ("fire" there. The Catholic doctrine of purgatory alone explains this passage. Then, of course, there is the Bible’s approval of prayers for the dead: "In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the dead to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death. But if he did this with a view to the splendid reward that awaits those who had gone to rest in godliness, it was a holy and pious thought. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin" (2 Macc. 12:43–45). Prayers are not needed by those in heaven, and no one can help those in hell. That means some people must be in a third condition, at least temporarily. This verse so clearly illustrates the existence of purgatory that, at the time of the Reformation, Protestants had to cut the books of the Maccabees out of their Bibles in order to avoid accepting the doctrine.

Prayers for the dead and the consequent doctrine of purgatory have been part of the true religion since before the time of Christ. Not only can we show it was practiced by the Jews of the time of the Maccabees, but it has even been retained by Orthodox Jews today, who recite a prayer known as the Mourner’s Kaddish for eleven months after the death of a loved one so that the loved one may be purified. It was not the Catholic Church that added the doctrine of purgatory. Rather, any change in the original teaching has taken place in the Protestant churches, which rejected a doctrine that had always been believed by Jews and Christians.

Why Go To Purgatory?Why would anyone go to purgatory? To be cleansed, for "nothing unclean shall enter [heaven]" (Rev. 21:27). Anyone who has not been completely freed of sin and its effects is, to some extent, "unclean." Through repentance he may have gained the grace needed to be worthy of heaven, which is to say, he has been forgiven and his soul is spiritually alive. But that’s not sufficient for gaining entrance into heaven. He needs to be cleansed completely.

Fundamentalists claim, as an article in Jimmy Swaggart’s magazine, The Evangelist, put it, that "Scripture clearly reveals that all the demands of divine justice on the sinner have been completely fulfilled in Jesus Christ. It also reveals that Christ has totally redeemed, or purchased back, that which was lost. The advocates of a purgatory (and the necessity of prayer for the dead) say, in effect, that the redemption of Christ was incomplete. . . . It has all been done for us by Jesus Christ, there is nothing to be added or done by man."

It is entirely correct to say that Christ accomplished all of our salvation for us on the cross. But that does not settle the question of how this redemption is applied to us. Scripture reveals that it is applied to us over the course of time through, among other things, the process of sanctification through which the Christian is made holy. Sanctification involves suffering (Rom. 5:3–5), and purgatory is the final stage of sanctification that some of us need to undergo before we enter heaven. Purgatory is the final phase of Christ’s applying to us the purifying redemption that he accomplished for us by his death on the cross.

No Contradiction
The Fundamentalist resistance to the biblical doctrine of purgatory presumes there is a contradiction between Christ’s redeeming us on the cross and the process by which we are sanctified. There isn’t. And a Fundamentalist cannot say that suffering in the final stage of sanctification conflicts with the sufficiency of Christ’s atonement without saying that suffering in the early stages of sanctification suffering in the early stages of sanctification also presents a similar conflict. The Fundamentalist has it backward: Our suffering in sanctification does not take away from the cross. Rather, the cross produces our sanctification, which results in our suffering, because "[f]or the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant; later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness" (Heb. 12:11).

Nothing Unclean
Purgatory makes sense because there is a requirement that a soul not just be declared tobe clean, but actually be clean, before a man may enter into eternal life. After all, if a guilty soul is merely "covered," if its sinful state still exists but is officially ignored, then it is still a guilty soul. It is still unclean.
Catholic theology takes seriously the notion that "nothing unclean shall enter heaven." From this it is inferred that a less than cleansed soul, even if "covered," remains a dirty soul and isn’t fit for heaven. It needs to be cleansed or "purged" of its remaining imperfections. The cleansing occurs in purgatory. Indeed, the necessity of the purging is taught in other passages of Scripture, such as 2 Thessalonians 2:13, which declares that God chose us "to be saved through sanctification by the Spirit." Sanctification is thus not an option, something that may or may not happen before one gets into heaven. It is an absolute requirement, as Hebrews 12:14 states that we must strive "for the holiness without which no one will see the Lord.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/purgatory

then I must ask u do u knw Cornelius

Syncan:
So when you see the truth others believe in, do not try to say they are wrong, when you know nothing about it.

Ok sir.

Cornelius was a righteous man bt he was nt born again if he had died without Christ then I tell u he would have gone to hell.....stop dis and live right if u die with blemish u r goin to hell accept Christ ask d holy spirit for help and more understanding of d bible its more than a story book

Syncan:
You and your friend should take to some learning.

1cor3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. (Heaven)

1cor3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire (Purgatory)

1cor3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. (Hell fire)

The scriptural references you quoted are out of context as it doesn't relate to rewards of the after life.

[quote author=Jusmudi post=43111609]The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).

The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments
When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what o

SalC:
Too long.

Purgatory is misunderstood by many.

Many think Catholics preach purgatory for unrepentant sinners which is not so.

My advice: Strive to make heaven not purgatory, but if you end up with a sin not unto death, God in his infinite mercy can grant you purgatorial sanctification.

If you continue in sin hoping to be purified in purgatory, hell awaits you.

Hello SalC, long time

please explain "a sin not unto death" and give examples if possible.

dhardline:
That teaching will only lead one to hell,it is the devils tool to destroy many.

The simple reason is: Why strive to be sanctified here on earth if i can archieve that when i die in

purgatory?

Remember the bible said 'After death is judgement'. No intermediaries.

purgatory doctrine is not that no one goes to hell... nope...

for those who mistakenly have a stain on them b4 death ... little stuffs ...

the whole stuff is knowing that they are sins that does not lead to death (1 john 5:17)

no Catholic wants to even go dia ... the aim is heaven ... strive for perfection for him... but should it be they is a form of little stuffs (sin that does not lead to death) then dey z a chance still to make heaven...


anyways, like the bible said, we are judged by our own believe .. .

this was not to convince but to enlighten

Nice one. Very lucid but they will not believe still.

God doesnt hold sin against anyone on earth,the ticket to heaven is to accept that Jesus is the son of God and confess it with your mouth,all sins are permanently forgiven while still on earth were there is grace,after death judgement.

Heart2heart:
There is no definite time frame for judgement to take place. Four days on the physical is not same in the spiritual realm. Your ordinary sleep would tell you. you sleep for 12hours but all that happens in your dream of 12hrs seems just like 30mins happenings. There is no transit point between heaven and hell. There is no place like purgatory.

why are u assuming? Do you think God is a mathematician like our pastors? The op used Bible verses to support his claim, and yet our felllow"born again" said after death judgment. Now since you attend Bible believing church where was Lazarus for 3 days? Plz use Bible to counter purgatory points and don't assume.
Secondly what did Christ meant when he said in mathew 12:31-32?
From the Bible passage what did he meant by "this world and next"? Does it mean that some sins are forgivable and some can't be forgiven even when u become born again?(Plz use Bible verse to support ur claim)

mrtenixco1984:
God doesnt hold sin against anyone on earth,the ticket to heaven is to accept that Jesus is the son of God and confess it with your mouth,all sins are permanently forgiven while still on earth were there is grace,after death judgement.

have you read mathew 12:31-32? I beg plz understand your Bible

An0nimus:
Hello SalC, long time

please explain "a sin not unto death" and give examples if possible.

bro a phrase doesn't make a sentence and so does not make sense. Plz tell us the Bible verse so that we can understand.

dapipson:
It's because of this kind of teachings, the REV.FATHERS frequently mess up with the REV SISTERS and OTHERS because they believe that on their death, they will be purified in PURGATORY then straight to meet Jesus. THIS TYPE OF TEACHING IS A SCAM.

you disappointed me, show me a priest who has done that and he is still a priest till date? Because u can't do without sex doesn't mean others too can't. Stop blasphemy

Peritus:
Preach salvation that you are sure of and leave speculation that does no extra good than to weaken a struggling believer who may see heaven as beyond his reach, only to struggle to make purgatory by committing what you may call little sins. Salvation is once, no second chance after death.
I'm a Catholic but I dnt accept all Catholic doctrine just because the church said we should. I am more concerned about what Christ/Bible says, and the things that are in tandem with the teachings of the Bible. Even if church is right, it is better to err on the side of caution.
Church doesn't go to heaven, the individuals do. Salvation is so personal that your family, friends, church, priest etc won't stand by you on that day.

May God richly bless you.

There is nothing like that in the Bible. It is a belief from the pit of hell to send billions of catholic faithfuls to hell fire.
To catholics, every member that dies goes to purgatory. For this reason, they dont strive to make heaven.
The Bible made it clear that one can make either heaven or hell and nothing more.
I wonder if they don't read Hebrew 9:27 which says that it is appointed unto men once to die and after this comes judgement.

fasho01:
The scriptural references you quoted are out of context as it doesn't relate to rewards of the after life.

Oh really? The day of judgement is not in afterlife right?

1Cor 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

I guess not, it relates to the rewards of this life, the day tithe collected start to increase. Smh.

Empredboy:
you disappointed me, show me a priest who has done that and he is still a priest till date? Because u can't do without sex doesn't mean others too can't. Stop blasphemy

Sorry please but i must confess to you that a toilet to one of your parish here where i am residing got blocked, a plumber waz called to rectify it, I hope you will not want to hear that it was used condoms that blocked the toilet.

A motor cycle rider whom i am very close to can testify how he normally sneaks girls to those FATHERS.

The ugliest part, you may not want to believe it.

You may continue with your insult. But all i know and i still emphasised is that that doctrine of PURGATORY is a scam

Syncan:
Oh really? The day of judgement is not in afterlife right?

1Cor 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

I guess not, it relates to the rewards of this life, the day tithe collected start to increase. Smh.

If I should relate this with your earlier quote, are you saying the fire that shall try every man's work is purgatory

fasho01:
If I should relate this with your earlier quote, are you saying the fire that shall try every man's work is purgatory

No. I am only drawing your attention to the fact that some people's work shall burn but they will still "be saved, yet so as by fire". So you may ask yourself the question "where will these people be; while they are made ready for heaven...so as by fire?"

PURGATORY IS NOTHING BUT ONE OF THE SINFUL OLD ROMAN HEATHEN RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ERRONEOUSLY INCORPORATED INTO CHRISTIANITY. ITS A PAGAN PRACTICE. The bible says believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved.Jesus said today you will be with me in paradise not purgatory. Some people think just because others has practiced and believed it for centuries, it has to be the way. Only the truth shall set you free. THE BELIEVE IN PURGATORY IS NOT BIBLICAL THEREFORE IT COULD LAND YOU IN HELL.

[quote author=Syncan post=43122397]No. I am only drawing your attention to the fact that some people's work shall burn but they will still "be saved, yet so as by fire". So you may ask yourself the question "where will these people be; while they are made ready for heaven...so as by fire?"[/quote

No, here it's talking about heavenly reward for what you did on earth. It's not talking about where you are.purgatory is not the issue here. Paul the apostle says we(self included)will all appear before the judgement seat of Christ . This is to decide what rewards you deserve. Not all crowns will be the same though you made heaven.Forget purgatory , it's sinful deceit and satanic.Repent now because there is no change of staus after death.

dhardline:
True but the body of Christ is one.I was born a catholic then we converted to anglicans but i have

come to know this: true christianity is not by denomination.A true christian who seeks,ask and

knocks on that door to know the truth and has received the truth has the same revelation and

understanding with a true christian any other place or church or country.

OK. hope you like to read. let me recommend two books for you. I'm sure you will enjoy them.

John Henry Newman's "Road to Rome",

"Rome sweet Home" by Scott Hahn
Oh and

"The Faith Explained" by Leo J. Trese.

feel free to get back to me when you are done. cheers.

missdebs:
anyone who reads it to the end deserves an award

my sister... no be yah o

Mr poster, u're very ignorant 2 open ur mouth & tell me dat d death of Christ is not sufficient for us 2 enter heaven. The bible says dat he whom d son of man sets free is free indeed. Christ also said dat his grace is sufficient for me. Its enough my Jesus died & dat he died for me. Stop decieving urself. The reason Christ went 2 preach 2 those 1s is because dey haven't known Christ & dats because Christ has not yet come during their time. I must tell u that God did not speak 2 u. dats d devil speaking. Christ died dat we might have life and have it abundantly. The bible says dat there is no condemnation to dem who are in Christ Jesus. 2 dem dat believe, he gave d power to become sons of God. My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness not on purgatory. The bible says the word of God which is Jesus, is a purifier so how come u're saying contrary? Dont cause God to curse u my brother. Please find a better church lest ur case will be "my people perish for lack of wisdom"

Y'all shouting think holiness is so easy to attain...do you know we commit sins that we don't even know about..Catholic church preaches heaven and earth not purgatory...A priest can never tell you to live life so you might end up in purgatory...A scenario where a man lives a good life and sins at the hour of his death knowingly or unknowingly...will he go to hell just like that? God is not that wicked...now imagine the thief who was crucified with jesus that made heaven because he believed jesus is real..thats how merciful God can be...nobody has been to purgatory and back to confirm this but if it were included we human will sin more...it's just like a father saying to his university 100l kid that he would be flown abroad to start a fresh school...do you think the student will take the school's semester exams seriously?

ONE PROBLEM OR RATHER A GREAT MISCONCEPTION THAT CHRISTIANS OF OTHER DENOMINATION ALWAYS HAVE IS THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY,BOOK OF INSTRUCTION HANDED DOWN TO THESE AGE. WITH THIS MISCONCEPTION, THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES REFUSE TO GIVE CREDENCE TO THE PRONOUNCEMENTS BY THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH WHICH JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HANDED DOWN VATICAN DOCUMENTS WHICH CONTAINED DETAILS BEYOND THE HOLY BIBLE. AN EXAMPLE OF SUCH IS "VATICAN TWO DOCUMENT". AND MIND YOU THE HOLY BIBLE ITSELF IS MORE OF A SUMMARY OF EVENTS.

No! It is an invention of the Church of Rome.

Dbeliever:
ONE PROBLEM OR RATHER A GREAT MISCONCEPTION THAT CHRISTIANS OF OTHER DENOMINATION ALWAYS HAVE IS THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY,BOOK OF INSTRUCTION HANDED DOWN TO THESE AGE. WITH THIS MISCONCEPTION, THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES REFUSE TO GIVE CREDENCE TO THE PRONOUNCEMENTS BY THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH WHICH JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HANDED DOWN VATICAN DOCUMENTS WHICH CONTAINED DETAILS BEYOND THE HOLY BIBLE. AN EXAMPLE OF SUCH IS "VATICAN TWO DOCUMENT". AND MIND YOU THE HOLY BIBLE ITSELF IS MORE OF A SUMMARY OF EVENTS.

Only those who don't know their God and the Bible will swallow these lies from the Father of Lies himself.

Dbeliever:
ONE PROBLEM OR RATHER A GREAT MISCONCEPTION THAT CHRISTIANS OF OTHER DENOMINATION ALWAYS HAVE IS THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY,BOOK OF INSTRUCTION HANDED DOWN TO THESE AGE. WITH THIS MISCONCEPTION, THE PROTESTANT CHURCHES REFUSE TO GIVE CREDENCE TO THE PRONOUNCEMENTS BY THE UNIVERSAL CHURCH WHICH JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF HANDED DOWN VATICAN DOCUMENTS WHICH CONTAINED DETAILS BEYOND THE HOLY BIBLE. AN EXAMPLE OF SUCH IS "VATICAN TWO DOCUMENT". AND MIND YOU THE HOLY BIBLE ITSELF IS MORE OF A SUMMARY OF EVENTS.

This teaching has deceived many.

SamJed:
Here is what the bible says... It is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement...Note the bolded...if you appoint someone for something you can reverse it for a reason...this explains why i believe most stories of people going to hell and heaven and coming back(not all are true though)...this also explains why one can be pronounced dead by doctors but after prayers by true children of God, the person will wake up...because it is appointed and not fixed... but for purgatory it is a pure lie...firstly there is no place in the bible where the word is mentioned...secondly the bible made it clear that if you receive Christ you will be saved and if you don't you are condemned...thirdly if the passage that says after death, judgement is anything to go by then purgatory is a pure lie...if there is supposed to be a clause like purgatory, it would have been included...the passage would have been "it is appointed unto man once to die, then a possible atonement while dead, then judgement.
Summary of everything i have said is that their is nothing like purgatory...it is not biblical...

So if you're a teacher this is how you'll be teaching ur pupils/followers, your summary is not convincing

SamJed:
Here is what the bible says... It is appointed unto man once to die and after that judgement...Note the bolded...if you appoint someone for something you can reverse it for a reason...this explains why i believe most stories of people going to hell and heaven and coming back(not all are true though)...this also explains why one can be pronounced dead by doctors but after prayers by true children of God, the person will wake up...because it is appointed and not fixed... but for purgatory it is a pure lie...firstly there is no place in the bible where the word is mentioned...secondly the bible made it clear that if you receive Christ you will be saved and if you don't you are condemned...thirdly if the passage that says after death, judgement is anything to go by then purgatory is a pure lie...if there is supposed to be a clause like purgatory, it would have been included...the passage would have been "it is appointed unto man once to die, then a possible atonement while dead, then judgement.
Summary of everything i have said is that their is nothing like purgatory...it is not biblical...

So because d word Purgatory doesn't appear in d bible, it doesn't exist? SMH if dts 2 b true, dt means dt d trinity, nativity (birth of Christ), reincarnation (how God the son became man) r false because those words don't appear in d bible. Yes 1 is saved when 1 received Christ bt isn't it d same bible dt tell us 2 work out our salvation in fear & trembling? Purgatory is nt 4 d unrepentant or d sinners dt fails 2 acknowledge Jesus. It serves 2 cleanse us of minor stains caused by 4gten sins dt were unconfessed or unconscious sins (eg distraction during prayer) & is an instrument of penance 4 forgiven sins. D bible says "no sinner shall go unpunished" nt "no sinner shall go unforgiven". By merit of our sinful nature, we deserve damnation bt confession & true belief in Jesus Christ, we r spared dt. However we still need 2 undergo purging so dt we r made perfect as our heavenly Father is. Most tyms, we don't do sufficient penance in our life 2 be able 2 enter heaven unblemished so Purgatory strips us of such minor encumbrances & enables us 2 b pure enuf 2 c God's face.

Ohamzee:
Mr poster, u're very ignorant 2 open ur mouth & tell me dat d death of Christ is not sufficient for us 2 enter heaven. The bible says dat he whom d son of man sets free is free indeed. Christ also said dat his grace is sufficient for me. Its enough my Jesus died & dat he died for me. Stop decieving urself. The reason Christ went 2 preach 2 those 1s is because dey haven't known Christ & dats because Christ has not yet come during their time. I must tell u that God did not speak 2 u. dats d devil speaking. Christ died dat we might have life and have it abundantly. The bible says dat there is no condemnation to dem who are in Christ Jesus. 2 dem dat believe, he gave d power to become sons of God. My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness not on purgatory. The bible says the word of God which is Jesus, is a purifier so how come u're saying contrary? Dont cause God to curse u my brother. Please find a better church lest ur case will be "my people perish for lack of wisdom"

Purgatory isn't condemnation. It's purification. D fire of God's love purifies us d way fire purifies gold making us free of any uncleanness dt we unknowingly possessed which makes us in admissible 2 heaven. Where do u think d souls of unbaptized babies go immediately dey die? Heaven? Dt wld contradict d notion of original sin. Didn't David say in psalm 51 dt we were conceived in iniquity? So since dey can't enter heaven, would dey end up in hell?