thorpido:
Then it is only right to comply with the rules and instructions of the Church if they desire such recognition.I don't think it is that hard.

ayusco85:


marriage guarantees an approved sex life, without guilt or fear of retribution. but u need to knw ur partner is sexually active before u marry. am not saying keep fuckinggg everyday. more like test run

satowind:
learn to use search egines it will help u a lot. I didn't even need to go far so the de answer. If u have a question ask google de question not typing white wedding gown. If u don't know sometin ask rather dan embarass ur self

The tradition of a white wedding dress is commonly credited to Queen Victoria's choice to wear a white court dress at her wedding to Prince Albert in 1840. Debutantes had long been required to wear white court dresses for their first presentation at court, at a "Drawing Room" where they were introduced to the queen for the first time.


Royal brides before Victoria did not typically wear white, instead choosing "heavy brocaded gowns embroidered with white and silver thread," with red being a particularly popular colour in Western Europe more generally. European and American brides had been wearing a plethora of colours, including blue, yellow, and practical colours like black, brown, or gray. As accounts of Victoria's wedding spread across the Atlantic and throughout Europe, elites followed her lead.

Localamos:


Marriage under traditional rites is a beautiful thing and a value which is highly recognised by cultures especially from the south eastern part of nigeria.
However, the emphasis of the church is preservation of it's values on sexual sanctity. The church does not condone fornication and adultery. Unfortunately, there is no known medical procedure for determining who a fornicator is. The only person that can be "caught" is the person who is pregnant (you'd have to have s*x before you get pregnant) before wedding.

Again, there are couples (like those who you are advocating for) who have been joined in the traditional way and have consumated their marriage. Unfortunately, the church doesn't have provision for such to wear white garments. And that makes me wonder... if I have married my wife 'lawfully' in the traditional way, why must have to go to the church again? Afterall, there's no law that compels me to do church wedding.

I have a friend who recently did traditional and court wedding but no church. He's happily married and soon to be a father. Even church members recognise them as "Mr & Mrs"

Reference:


Exactly. You want God in your own image rather than the other way around. The Christianity of these times is one that justifies everything and anything a man does. Now God is subject to her traditions and her traditional institutions. The old testament God will have buried them alive. Now with Jesus people feel anything goes because Jesus keeps on pleading for mercy for us.

daretodiffer:


Good sex life?

thorpido:
Traditional marriage is marriage.Why then do people want another ceremony in church since they already have marriage?
I never said traditional marriage wasn't marriage.Why do people want to get into another institution then?

Prdo:
The church is too lenient to allow the marriage to take place in the church. Marriage is for two pwople and not three. Let the couple go and marry at the registry, since they have decided to test run/drive themselves before marriage. Genuine christians know the will of God and the rule of the Church concerning pre-marital sex. It is not only the female sex that is affected, even the groom will share part of the shame of getting married to a wife that is wearing yellow/black gown and this will serve as deterrent to would be fornicators.

ayusco85:


let me pm u lets talk abt it. i want to say somethings but cant because its a public forum. do u mind a pm?

satowind:
even thou am not a religious fanatic I am suprise when I see people like u trying to embarrass demselves in public. Have u taken tym to browse what it meant to wear white during wedding service? It means purity and @ such even non virgins deserve black gown too. And don't u eva tink the punishment is only metted on de bride cause de groom won't be happy wen he looks @ the wedding pics later and see his wife wearing black . So if u are a christian abide by de rules and stop crying fowl like de world is agaist women. Abide by de rule or quite and become an atheist no body will query u

dannywil03:
Hi, you did not tell us whether the groom is a member of the church or not because you cannot punish a non member. They can only punish their own.
If the couple believes in the doctrines of the church they should be able to wait untill the right time even if they are not going to be punish.
So practice what the word said... marriage is honourable bit bet undefile

sarutobie:

You have foresight! It is because of such rules and doctrines that apostle Paul warned the early Christians to be mindful..because such rules leave loopholes for Christians to sin and coverup their sin..how can you justify 'punishing' a couple who got 5the blessing of their parents,paid the dowry and all other rites before having sex and getting pregnant...but allow the other couple just because there was no pregnancy? Why not start conducting virginity tests then?

netizenbuzz:


This is called cultural appropriation. You see even atheists in the US getting priests to bless their marriages. It is a borrowed culture from whites. Before Christianity grew this big in Nigeria about a century ago, we still had traditional marriages that had Christian partners. I think we should draw a line between doctrines and the law. I don't stand against churches having doctrines, where I have a problem is when these doctrines try to revert us back to the days of the law. We should be free as Christians. And I mean freedom in a good way not freedom to sin. In the case of this couple, they didn't commit any sin and yet they are made to feel guilty like sinners. It is little things like this that turn growing Christians away from the church. This is a fundamental issue and it needs to be addressed. Telling people not to wed in church is not the solution. And if they must be punished at all, it should be both participants and not just the bride.

gist4kidsblog:



http://www.lailasblog.com/2016/02/anglican-church-forces-bride-to-wear.html?m=1

thorpido:
1 Cor. 7:1-2 says it is not good for a man to touch a woman and to prevent fornication,they should get married.You agree the Church can have doctrines which are backed up by biblical references.If the bible says no fornication,is it right then for the church not to join a couple in marriage when the bride is pregnant?
@2nd bolded,you are right that they both should be punished.

mary36:
No one has the right to question God authority, u that quoted bible did the bible mension the type of marriage ceremony Jesus attended, and was rubecca pregnant b4 her traditional marriage day anyone that want to be celebrated should keep her holy even if u hv been doing it b4 two month to ur wedding try to keep urself holy so that the enemy will nt use it to trap u, u people should stop blaming the church for her wrong doing, in my church AGC the wedding will be cancel an the two of them will be suspended till forder notice

Ajinoride:

thats a mature view.
if u cant marry by your church's standard, go elsewhere. and stop complaining

sarutobie:

I don't know about you but to me I am convinced in my spirit that when a couple are blessed by both parents and have carried out the marriage rites(paying of dowry)..then they are lawfully married before men and before God! That is what MY Bible tells me..

olakan22:
should I say you are sicker? No. You shoul read the post again. Op spoke about determining the sexuality 'before marriage' by engaging in sexual acts. So sex b4 marriage is nt fornication? If u go to hell don't say u were nt warned!

Amhappy:
The major problem with this law is that she is punished for getting pregnant not for fornication. So in that case you are free to fornicate but not to get pregnant. Laws should be wholesome so I think this law should be amended to include both parties and most importantly discourage sex before wedding not pregnancy. I'm Catholic and they do it in my church too and I dislike it. For me the better punishment is to hold a private wedding for them instead of a public one. Few priest do that in my church though. In that case both will bear the blunt.

thorpido:
There's nothing like western or african churches.The church started in the west as God chose to have it and as long as there is nothing in there to demean africans,I don't have a problem with that.
A marriage is a holy union before God when it is consumated without the bed defiled.
I Corinthians 7:1-2 says Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me:it is good for a man not to touch a woman.Nevertheless,to avoid fornication,let every man have his own wife,and let every woman have her own husband.

ayusco85:


marriage guarantees an approved sex life, without guilt or fear of retribution. but u need to knw ur partner is sexually active before u marry. am not saying keep fuckinggg everyday. more like test run

asuustrike2009:

Test run, touching bubu e.t.c is sin. No matter how you coin it, it's still sin.

daretodiffer:


I do.

Why don't you tell me on the derailers thread?

ayusco85:


where is said thread?

freshkik:
leaving the bible out of this 4 a minute , and just applying our own common sense here ....[1.] Every institute have their own set of rules, strict as some maybe n its either we follow or we leave. Now as an individual even we see trad. marriages as complete marriages, we all know that from the view of most churches [if not all], its not complete, just that some apply leniet punishment and others are strict, but rules are rules IMO i support this, weda bible passage dey 2 back me or not... not saying i am 1 strong xtian, i be badt guy sef , but i understand something that Jesus said something n cn relate it 2 wot happened in paul's time too .... summarizing its talks about different levels in xtianity,...and how has leaders in the faith, we DO or AVOID DOING things, not because they are sin against God, but because they can make the young believers 2 fall from the faith, FOR EXAMPLE, drinking of alcohol without been drunk is not really a sin ''arguably", but do you know how many young believers will fall, if Oyedepo, Adeboye or Adefarasin etc start 'downloading' beer ... NOW RELATING IT 2 the topic..... if they allow pregnant women 2 get married, do you have any idea of how rampant funny-occasion [fornication] will be among guys n ladies of marriageable age in the church ?.... it will openly encourage fornication among singles

Prdo:
The church is too lenient to allow the marriage to take place in the church. Marriage is for two pwople and not three. Let the couple go and marry at the registry, since they have decided to test run/drive themselves before marriage. Genuine christians know the will of God and the rule of the Church concerning pre-marital sex. It is not only the female sex that is affected, even the groom will share part of the shame of getting married to a wife that is wearing yellow/black gown and this will serve as deterrent to would be fornicators.

daretodiffer:


https://www.nairaland.com/2144338/chat-central-derailers-paradise-welcome

asuustrike2009:

Yeah but your church hasn't provide biblically backing for such punishment

adeaks:



You can only say they have defiled themselves where they are not legally married.

Having done their traditional marriage, in the eyes of the law and even the scriptures they are married. The Bible only says a man shall leave his mother and father and cling to his wife. The Bible does not specify that there must be church wedding. The two families had exchanged bride price and blessed the union...what else do you need?

My point is, in the eyes of God this woman is still pure unless you can prove that she had sex before her traditional marriage. A woman who had sex with her legal husband, how can she be impure I understand the rule but the church should recognize certain exceptions to the rule.

Joseph4God:
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. This is the word of God, His standard which can never be compromised. Things change, human beings change, nature and everything change BUT from generation to generation His word and even our God remain the same. Let people call it outdated things but as far as I know and believe, His standard will always be His standard. MARANATHA