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| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 1:11pm On Mar 05, 2016*. Modified: 9:51pm On Mar 06, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Cheap blackmail. Weren't you the numb skull I told only 26% of people view the word "feminist " or feminism as a positive word? Now drag your slow brain once again and do the math. Work out how many women in the 74% are against feminism. You must be so desperate of female company that you make a fool of yourself in your shameless, butt-licking parade. I'll fair better than you, a male - pushover in any endeavour of life safe for the degrading chores unfit for Kings. Women have always worked from the start. Like my grandmother and her grandmother. I like women to work. They are very needed in fields like medicine, police, councillors etc where people who prefere like-gender services are attended to. Real men and not afraid of working women. There's no fear of competition. The wuss in you is too effeminate for male logic. You can't see past your pansy little facade. Being a male door mat, you took a bite at the fruit without asking questions, because you are as naive as archaic Adam. Thee first paragraph of my post talked about some laudable achievements of feminism and no sensible man will object to it. What's wrong with you, is this how you intended to woo Janet? She will know you're a wuss bag who lack the alpha male gene to pass to her children. Being a compromised male, with insufficient supply of tetestorome and chromosome, you cannot look in the society in one glance and pin-point where a lot of moral decadence is coming from. You couldn't tell the difference between a daycare and boarding school raised child from a child raised by a mother's undivided attention, Nancy boy, can you? Dummy On A lame fightback. Why don't you do a hasty research like me and tell us all the prons of feminism? And intellectually counter my point? Or you are here trying to salvage the bruised ego you never had. Counter my post with intellectual points and prove to Janet you're not of the weakest branch of the male tree. #SwishGoat |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 1:14pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
women are being misled and are showing a lack of capacity for original thinking. Motherhood is a career, a rewarding and profitable one at that. You do not have to have a full time job in a bank for you to have a career. If you are a clerk, english teacher, member of a Board of Directors, Leader in an Advocacy Group, you have a career! Even if you are an investor or blogger you have a career! Who told you that you have to perpetually have a 9-5 job to have a career. there are many strategies. one is work but when start giving birth stop working. the rest women oya make una think am una get brain. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Vyolet(f): 1:15pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:A woman can be anything she wants to be and at the same time be a mother. I only drew words from the op that says "why should women fight for equal pay at work places even though they go on maternity leaves." I smell jealousy. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 1:21pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Vyolet:This is the lie women are being told today. A woman can be anything she wants to be including President. I agree and encourage that. A woman however has to choose a career that is Motherhood friendly and can not be anything she wants to be if she wants to be a mum. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Chidoks(f): 1:30pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:You make much sense Each time I recall a major carer sacrifice I made after marriage I shed secret tears but this beautiful post is a pat on my back. You made me count my blessings. Thanks. It's really challenging to combine motherhood and certain carers |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Vyolet(f): 1:32pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:Women need to make huge money too in order to live a good life and less dependent, men made it so these days. Gone are the days of, "stay at home, I'd provide everything", it is now, "take care of 50% of bills and I'd take care of 50%", yet she's still expected to fulfill her primary role as a woman. The reason I ask what do men really want? |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 1:42pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Vyolet:What men want is simple: good sex life, good cooking, youth i.e. get married early, support and most importantly subject urself to his authority even if u make more money than him just the same way i subject myself to a younger inexperienced boss that i am older and more qualified than. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 1:47pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Chidoks:the Bible says that the glory of an a young man is his strength and the glory of an old man is his grey hairs. if you are young don't try to be old if you are old dont try to be young. each has their glories. I believe the glory of a woman is motherhood first beforehand career but this is just my belief. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 1:48pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:When a man like you raise a daughter, her husband will remain grateful to you to the end of your days. Your sons will show true male wisdom and intelligence. Their women will see no use fighting over a well balance male-headship . |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Favolly(f): 1:50pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:Lol! Tell us more about the obvious ![]() |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 1:51pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Vyolet:That is dependant on the type of man you marry. Some men these days have programmed their thinking that a woman will share half his burden. But that's his prerogative anyway. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Moana(f): 1:56pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:i don't know maybe you were taught of a different kind of intelligence but everyone else knows that you do not pay attention to insignificant things. The fact that feminism gives you sleepless nights proves its a threat to you. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 1:56pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Favolly:The obvious is during your time of the month, you're less productive than your male counterpart. You're also more prone to emotional decision than logical decision. There many type of jobs that he will fair better Except for marketing where you sometimes apply suduction. If you add that to your maternity related leaves and days off, no competitive, profit-oriented firm that is privately own will pay you just as much as your male counterpart. It's a global fact and practice. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Favolly(f): 1:57pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:You people that will be quoting bible upandan are the very same ones that will go about shaming single hardworking women for not being married in the name of 'That's-a-woman's-main-purpose-on-earth'. That is the definition of religion! |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 2:01pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Moana:Do this thread a favour; go back to where you're coming from. Even the feminist didn't see your output as tangible. You reek of low intelligence. Take a brief look at the comments from cream.ish. She sounded like she knows what's she is in for. She can engage me intelligently. But you, you're a crowd - following, she-zombie feminist who can't defend her cause. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by CoolUsername: 2:05pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:Where you raised by a woman's undivided attention? Does this behaviour stem from your childhood? Supporting feminism doesn't make a man weak. That's exactly what a 10-year-old would say. And what are you saying about moral decadence? You want to blame that on women too? I didn't know that only women could bring children up. And look at you bringing up the alpha male gene as a serious insult, it kind of shows of your maturity level. We live in a world where women are forced to cover themselves from to toe in some regions, just to avoid harassment on the streets. We live in a world where sexual assault on women is justified by some people because men can't control themselves. In general, feminism is still a very necessary movement in the world. Especially, in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. While your kind may resort to silly tricks to attract females, I'm above that, I'm also above acting like a crybaby when my views are challenged. I know you're only strong when you're on the other side of the computer screen, that's why you feel safe enough to go full-blown re.tard when people don't want to be a part of your circlejerk. You don't have to struggle to prove your masculinity if you're a real man, stop trying so hard. Also, you are getting less coherent with each post. Try to read through your posts before hitting 'submit'. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 2:10pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
Favolly:women in the olden days went straight from fathers house to husbands house. they r single and unmarried either by voluntary personal election which is respected or because there werent strong parent figures to direct her to get married. leave women unguided and they keep dating sexy bad boys till they grow old. Some women choose not to be mothers, some choose to be harlots, etc. each to their own. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Favolly(f): 2:12pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:Oh, wow! That's injustice in all it's glory ![]() What say ye we do a petition to the Nigerian Labour Congress or anyone who cares to listen? They need to understand that women are cost centres in our organizations and should only be entitled to half of what the men are earning! We don't need women like Ibukun Awosika running big publicly quoted entities. What if they need her approval on something that is threatening the going concern of the firm while she's away on a period leave? That'll be disastrous for even the whole economy seeing as the firm is sitting on about 40% of Nigeria's total assets!! Hell, they need to stop women from working altogether. They should be compelled to go back to their homes, cook for their man and take care of the children! I'll start the petition and mail you a draft ![]() |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Favolly(f): 2:17pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:Okay, I get you now.... It's either the Mother way or the Harlot way... etc Nigerian women.... Choose ye this day where thou shall belong! She who hath ears, let her hear ![]() |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 2:25pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Women covering themselves from toe is a good thing. The unclothedness of each woman is for her husband and for her husband only says the Word of the Living God! The unclothedness of a woman is a weak point in men and a point of power for women. When a woman is walking down the street semi naked, she is abusing her God given power to attract a husband. that unclothedness is for her husband. Western society is in decline in part because they started allowing women to wear and do whatever they want without men guiding them. And also because men stopped taking the lead for fear of charges. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Creamish(f): 2:32pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:3 years off work? Wow. Wherez DAT done? ![]() |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 2:35pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
CoolUsername:Don't try to walk in my shadows. I'm the sun here. You're the moon. Respect my intellectual superiority. I told you much earlier you type faster than your brain could assimilate. Don't try to recycle that to me, Nancy boy. And I told you each comment leaves trails of your intellectual bankruptcy. I was wise enough to give feminism its laudable dues before bashing it for all its evil, because I was expectant of male-poshovers like you. I gave you very little room to operate. But you so needed to impress Janet badly, and you came like an unprepared boxer. My jabs at your chin left you ugly and Janet now knows you've been bruised by an ALPHA MALE. In the old days when men and women farm, the women farm less hard than their male counterpart and most times they farm near home for the young children's sake. While the men can farm very far away, long into the village boarders While raising a child is the responsibility of both genders, the mothers role in the infancy, toddler and developing years are without question. The 3 month leave for maternity leave is not enough. Babies need their mothers' undivided attention during and after that stage. While daddy goes to work, she must be available to bring the children back from school, ask them pertinent questions, bathe them and put them to sleep. She must not entrust her child to a maid or daycare except in some very difficult and abnormal situation. She gives her husband a run down of what transpired in school between Junior and Peter. And necessary correctional measures are taken immediately before Junior grows with it. Mainwhile, she should be looking fresh and lovely for her husband as he comes back from work. Her beauty and homeliness will give him a resting place from the hard day's work. Not a tired, rumpled faced carrier woman who isn't even home to kiss her husband welcome and loosen his tie. Oh, she can work at this stage. But it is important that she control her work/time and not her work controlling her. Junior needs her undivided attention at his very young age and so does his daddy. She is a nurturer. Father passes his instruction to mother, and mother says to junior, "Daddy said you must not do this". Junior doesn't get confused where the authority is coming from and he is better shaped to respect authority in the society when he is out as a grown man. When Junior is grown, mother is freer, with permission from her husband to pursue her dream. Nancy boy, this is complete, though highly summarised version of a healthy family structure. And society gets safer for it. I hate it when I see men fall from grace and become doormat to new ideas. Their place will be taken. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 2:45pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:i had to like this sir. and i could even add that the woman who wants a past time from caring for kids could be an investor on nigerian stock exchange part time, part time writer for This Day or even a pianist at church. if her investment of 2million on NSE is brining in quarterly returns she is working without working! |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by KanwuliaExtra: 2:50pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
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| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 2:54pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Men like you are in short supply. Too many effeminate, wuss bags all over the place. When there is absence of real authority, rebellion is only a matter of time. But yet rebellion is sinful. Wisdom is patience. It says "wait, help is coming, do not take laws into your hands or assume a position not meant for you" |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by Nobody: 3:02pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
postmann:Please do in depth research on what exactly feminism is and don't attack a movement based on the actions of extremists. We do not discard religion because of fanatics, neither do we discard science because of greedy corporations that seek to exploit humanity and engage in unethical practices, nor do we discard banking because of those who rip off nations and their people with high interest and lending rates and the like. If we did, Islam and Christianity would be gone because of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the massacres instigated by the church in centuries past. If we did, science would be gone due to crimes such as those committed during the World Wars and due to such things as mutation in humans as a result of nuclear fallout. There will always be those who take a thing and turn it on its head for their own selfish purposes, but as the Englishman would say, do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Real feminism seeks to end cultures and practices which are detrimental to women. These include -Unequal voting rights (eg in Saudi Arabia where women just voted for the first time) -Ending honor killing : In certain countries, mostly in the middle east, a woman may be killed by a member of her family if she is deemed to have brought shame on the family by whatever means, and the killer may go scot-free. -Female genital mutilation -Unequal pay: Equality of pay does not mean if Nneka is absent for 4 working days due to her period she still deserves to be paid same wages with Kunle who was present all through the month. Equality of pay means if Nneka and Kunle are present for equal working hours, doing the same job, then they should be paid accordingly. This is not just a men vs women issue as abroad it has been noted that minorities(blacks, Hispanics etc) are less paid than whites, with the white man being at the higher end of the range. -Rape culture, which tends to demonize the victim instead of advocating justice. This also goes both ways as in societies where it is hard to get justice for victims, even men and boys who have been raped or molested suffer in silence. -It also seeks to end the practice of sending boys to school while the girls are left without education. The list goes on but I will leave you to research on your own. A real feminist will not see a problem with a woman driving a trailer or working in a mine as long as she is capable (physically and otherwise) AND WILL NOT EXPECT ANY SPECIAL TREATMENT ON THE BASIS OF GENDER. The movement is not about being equal to men IN MARRIAGE and disrespecting one's husband. I capitalized "IN MARRIAGE" as it is their husbands women are biblically to submit to, not just any man; people in general are to respect/submit to authority, as children (male or female) should submit to their parents. It just means a woman is not a second class person and should not be treated as such. In marriage there are roles and instructions for husband and wife, a popular biblical one being "Wives submit to your husbands…Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the Church". Failures of marriages today are not the fault of true feminism but due to the warping of the sacred institution by both man and wife. One cannot engage in things which the Bible/Holy book (eg. Quran, I'll use the Bible as I'm a Christian) condemns (fornication, irresponsibility, lying, etc.) & expect to experience success in any area of life, not just marriage. As for those who are talking about things such as men sitting down to urinate we need not be bothered by the rantings of mad people; as Sir Winston Churchill said "One will not get to the destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks". |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 3:08pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
HannibalXVI:I read your post. I did not see anything to disagree with. it is a masterpiece. Perhaps we can categorize feminism into two: godly feminism and ungodly feminism i learnt from ur post. one thing to add though. girls should be married before going to university as 90% become unmarriable feminized sluts if not so. secondly the time at University the girl also ages a bit - a youthful time that should belong to the husband. marriage today is laden with risks. what are the benefits of marrying today? thanks |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 3:16pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
HannibalXVI:I'll give you this: You got grace and class. You're humble and gentle in your submission. And your points are noted. This post is not disregarding feminism per se, but what it entails in this time. Like I said, in the first paragraph, feminism has its benefits when it was largely pure and noble in its intention. But not anymore. Feminism has lost it meaning. And it has been taken over by greedy, rebellious women. And that's why majority of people see it as a negative term. It's evils far outweigh it's gains. And no sane man wants to see a woman oppressed. Should I take you to the US or UK in a feminist gathering and you deliver this quote of yours as a speach, the women will halt you to a dead stop. They simple don't want to be under a man in marriage. It is that bad. The above listed type of feminism are the main stream feminist movement. And I have stated their beliefs and goals. The liberals are the most tolerant. As for the others.....hehehe. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by CoolUsername: 3:18pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
AVRecruit:Well that's your opinion. The major bone of contention here is choice. Women should be allowed to choose to wear head-to-toe covering or not if they choose to. Women still suffer sexual assault in areas where they're forced to cover themselves ,and in those regions, reporting rape cases may even be dangerous. Honour killings may be practised to rid their families of the 'shame'. Ironically, western countries such as Sweden, have seen an increase in rape cases in correlation to the influx of refugees from North Africa and the Middle East. You should realize that men are capable of exhibiting self-control. Switzerland has one of the lowest crime-rates in the world, sexual assault included, ironically, public nudity is completely legal over there. I don't know what you mean about the western society being in decline. Their economy seems stable and their populations seem comfortable. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 3:22pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
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| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by postmann(op): 3:24pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
CoolUsername:"I don't know what you mean about the western society being in decline. Their economy seems stable and their populations seem comfortable" He is talking about moral decline. Wake up. |
| Re: Feminism: The True Colour by AVRecruit: 3:32pm On Mar 05, 2016 |
CoolUsername:There is no contention at all its outright rebellion. So because you are allowed to wear whatever you want you put on tattoos of satanic origins and nose rings of satanic origins? And put on mini skirts that makes all and sundry want to sleep with you? Its foolishness. Feminism should teach women to be appropriately dressed the same way it enjoins men not to hit women. The power is temporal though. Anything upward of 26 years of age even wear the tightest skirt most men wont even blink. A word is enough for the wise. Western society is in decline economically. Economic power has shifted to the East (Asia), middle east and africa. |
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