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Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 4:18pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
[quote author=asalimpo post=43610875][/quote] It becomes inanimate because you want to give credit to an imaginary god. I gave you an ASSERTION not a belief. In other to protect your delusion you're trying to force my assertion under the umbrella of your beliefs. For the umpteeth time....! Time as a creator is not a diety..!!! If you want to be ignorant that's your problem. Mere observation. you cannot do without the air you breathe, the food you eat, the time you've spent so far in existence. Therefore you are one with nature. Do You need scriptures to tell you that..? I can tell you authoritatively that you don't know the god you worship. If you do not know about his inheritance from El.... Why am I giving you too much credit. I should know better. You believe in rapture. When next you read your babble try and read it without deluding yourself with holyspirit. Read to understand not read to believe. I don't like quoting scriptures because fear induced brain like yours would interpret a direct statement under the guise holyspirit. For starters go read psalm and deutoronomy. Pay attention to psalms 82. And deu 32. And see if they are talking about a council of Gods polytheism or a supreme God monotheism. Also, I hope I'm not asking for too much. That you know the meaning of INHERITANCE 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 6:40pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
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Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 7:50pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
[quote author=asalimpo post=43624223][/quote] You're clearly a slowpoke..... I made mention that Yahweh received his inheritance. You replied that it needed citation. I provided citation. You then deflect and ignore evidence provided. Also, you keep exposing your shallow thought process. The air you breathe, the food and water you digest in body is not one with you abi... They're separate when this process takes place.... Why am I even surprised... You've got rapture on your mind... Let's not forget what started our discussion. I made it clear that a creator does not have to be a diety. Then I put it to you that TIME created God. Clearly, the god you chose to defend was never a creator God, which the babble you get directions from clearly stated that there came a TIME that Yahweh was ALLOTTED HIS INHERITANCE , the land of Israel. So your argument to defend god in the imaginary person of Yahweh is null and void from the onset. Have you ever inherited your paychecks from yourself...? How can a creator God inherit anything.? Since you're soooo daft that you cannot seperate the creator of God from the creator concepts of the universe as we know it. Then my friend I leave you to your ignorance. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 8:36pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
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Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by cloudgoddess(f): 11:07pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
[quote author=asalimpo post=43627299][/quote] When you eat, the food particles are broken down into microscopic molecules that are taken up by your cells to CREATE your body - your skin, hair, organs, fingernails, are all constantly being rebuilt using the atoms in the food you consume (animal, plant); your body is literally made of recycled animals and plants. Likewise the oxygen molecules you breath in physically become a part of the energy-generating machinery in your cells, interacting and combining with the molecules that make up you. And the waste you produce (carbon dioxide, heat, & digestive waste) go into the environment and fuel the energy-generating machinery of plants and fungi. Also, our bodies (inside and out) are home to trillions of micro-organisms, which feed on our dead skin cells, the food remnants in our guts, and even our sweat and urogenital secretions. In turn they aid our digestion, or help protect us from pathogenic bacteria, so we also benefit from their presence (called a mutualistic relationship). This unique collection of bacteria we all house on and in our bodies is termed "The Human Microbiome." Each of us is a literal biome. We are inextricably one with nature. Anyone who claims otherwise needs to actually learn about nature. 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 11:22pm On Mar 09, 2016 |
[quote author=asalimpo post=43627299][/quote] And there you have it.....out of context indeed. Rapture has eaten deep into your brain. A god that allotted himself an inheritance. Why do I expect you to align the food you ingest into your body to be one with nature. Is cow not part of nature. You just keep exposing your enormous short comings... Smh.... That babble really got your mind fuvked up!!!! 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 1:48am On Mar 10, 2016 |
cloudgoddess:Save the lesson. Oneness , is a wrong word. We humans, are part material. Part immaterial(soul and spirit). Our material part needs material sustenance. There's the ecosystem balance thing. We need cloths,food,shelter,phones etc. On the other hand, food doesnt need us, trees dont need us, air (polluted or not doesnt need us), as a matter of fact,you can take all the human beings out of the planet and it will do fine. Air wont cry. Water wont die. But you cant take the planet from man and man will survive. Because, man needs the planet. Man isnt UNITED with the elements . They dont bond and relate. Man has to tend the planet and mantain the balance of the system, which he isnt doing well anyway. The planet was made for man but not man for the planet. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 2:06am On Mar 10, 2016 |
GooseBaba:Apart from cheap name calling and insults, you've not been able to put together any coherent logical argument to buttress your point. Talk of my brain being messed up,what dyu have upstairs? You present the silliest argument ,even your fellow atheists will cringe at - because it's clearly nonsensical - yet have the effrontery to hurl insults. How dyu say something as patently st.upid as, time (an inanimate object) created a Supreme being , God (an animate object). Epic nonsense. Then when parallels to that garbage logic you spilled are drawn, you retort with more baseless jabs : "shallow mind " , etc. Atheism fried what decaying brain cells you had! |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by cloudgoddess(f): 2:15am On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo:Save the lesson. You need it. I'm sorry but don't pretend you knew even half of that information - this entire comment proves so. There's the ecosystem balance thing. We need cloths,food,shelter,phones etc. On the other hand, food doesnt need us, trees dont need us, air (polluted or not doesnt need us), Trees DO need us, as I mentioned. They intake the carbon dioxide we produce, it's vital to their metabolism. Air and water aren't living so they do not have needs. And phones do not consitute as a biological need. Man isnt UNITED with the elements . They dont bond and relate. How can you say this again when I just described precisely how that is so? This shows you did not process or understand what I was saying. Our bodies are carbon, oxygen, calcium, potassium, sulfur etc. There is no human being that is not completely made up of elements - which are constantly being replaced and reacted with elements of other living beings and nonliving materials. Part immaterial(soul and spirit). This claim requires proof. Where is it? Because there is plenty of evidence that strongly suggests this is not the case. Souls and spirits are likely nothing more than a product of human imagination. Like gnomes and fairies. The planet was made for man but not man for the planet. More claims which no evidence points towards. For example, why do we have dinosaur fossils dating back millions of years, before humans even walked the planet? How is the planet made for us when for over 95% of the earth's existence, we were not present? Were the archaebacteria, dinosaurs, wooly mammoths just warming it up for us? 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 3:31am On Mar 10, 2016 |
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Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 3:55am On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo: Exactly.... The babble has destroyed your brain. You don't know what a theory is, hence you lump evolution theory to atheism. You don't know what inheritance means, hence you delude yourself with taking scriptures out of context. Your god appeared out of nowhere and that is not absurd, but time creating god you start sniffing your armpits.. Since you are ashamed to call the bible god Yahweh. You might as well leave his book alone. Meanwhile, i was wondering why someone would be so stupid. I finally figured it out. You are doing everything to keep an increase in pages. You got me on that one though. 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 10:09am On Mar 10, 2016 |
GooseBaba: it's retards like you who come online trying to make a point by saying something patently s.tupid and not see the foolishness in it. Like the non living ( Time) creating the living (God)! How much more s.tupid could you get. Since, you are too biased to acknowledge the traditions in the bible, then stop tryna raise complex arguments above your head. You are too hollow to understand by the way. An infinite,everlasting God without beginning or end, bugles the mind. So,you have to explain His origin by saying somethng s.tupid. Something defying logic, with no authoritative backing. Atheists dont believe in God, then evolution is all they've got. Or will you say something silly and off the chart of reason like "time created man"? Since you cant reason intelligently, you quickly resort to name calling,insult hurling to hide your emptiness. But with every post you make, your incapacity for logical discourse is confirmed. You sound pitiful, go have a rest. Dimwit. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 12:42pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo: Lmao......!!!!! @ a living god. A belief is not an authority, and you keep on exposing your enormous stu.pidity on evolution THEORY... There's no cure for a fool. Carry on.... Hahahahaha.. There's is no room to reason intelligently with someone who sees a babble as an authoritative document. That guides his thoughts process... |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by cloudgoddess(f): 2:15pm On Mar 10, 2016 |
asalimpo:So in other words, "I won't consider any of the completely rational things you are saying because I trust my bible more than I trust sense." It looks like I am done here. There is a wall clouding your reasoning right now and that wall is your religious indoctrination. Because of that wall, you arrongantly refuse to learn about how life and nature actually operate. Because of that wall, what would be seen by a reasonable person as a valid and convincing argument, can not get through to you. You will clearly believe what you have been brainwashed to believe no matter what I present here. 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 12:46am On Mar 11, 2016 |
GooseBaba: You reason intelligently? keep dreaming. You are barely coherent. Can barely string together the words to convey your fallowness. time created God? I thought i had heard it all. One sign of shallow people like you, is that they resort to name calling, jeering and insults to cover up for their emptiness. before your 3rd post you degenerated to this. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 1:18am On Mar 11, 2016 |
cloudgoddess:You are simply throwing accusations. A lot of your position and science is conjectures. "learn how life and nature operate"! - you said man and nature is ONE! Then tried to substantiate. I said, Man is DEPENDENT on Nature. And that the planet was designed to inhabit man. Further demonstrating that materiality was created to serve man, not otherwise. I don't need a bible to take this position. Brainwashed,indoctrinated? By the bible? Hunh. You are more brainwashed by false science. Bigbang Evolution is hogwash. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by Nobody: 11:32am On Mar 11, 2016 |
yh yh i think athiest will believe but do kno that if heaven n hell is real it means either an earthnity of suffering or enjoyment ethernity means being imortal i dont see why humans in hell who r imortal will allow a demon who is imortal to torment him or her i mean what the point whats there to looose... |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by cloudgoddess(f): 1:09pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo:Says person who has likely not read a single book on any of these topics, and has likely only heard twisted, caricatured misinformations from their pastors, of idiotic statements that no scientist has ever claimed, so that their followers can stay ignorant and distrustful of science. You have been decieved. Not a single thing I said was "conjecture", all basic, textbook science that any properly educated person would have already known. But again, you are brainwashed by your religion, you likely know little else, and your education, if you have had any, has failed you. How can a person who has read on a variety of topics be brainwashed, but a person who has only read one book written 20 centuries ago, and does not even understand basic science, not be brainwashed? How can something be false when it has piles of evidence and research supporting it, but a patched-together collection of ancient stories be completely trustworthy, even though there is no evidence for any of it's claims & plenty of evidence against them? What you just did is called projection, reflecting your own flaws onto others to avoid facing the reality of your situation. I am not moved, because from my position you are very clearly ignorant and lacking knowledge. In a genuinely pitiable way. Please read a book, and I am serious. Educate yourself. You can start with this free PDF, that discusses much of the science I mentioned in this discussion. THE NATIONAL ACADEMY'S PRESS: Science, Evolution, and Creationism (2008) Authors Committee on Revising Science and Creationism: A View from the National Academy of Sciences; National Academy of Sciences; Institute of Medicine; National Academies Description How did life evolve on Earth? The answer to this question can help us understand our past and prepare for our future. Although evolution provides credible and reliable answers, polls show that many people turn away from science, seeking other explanations with which they are more comfortable. http://www.nap.edu/read/11876/chapter/2 1 Like |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 2:50pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
asalimpo: Coming from an idiot with a babble..... Evolution theory equals atheism.... SMH... |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 9:53pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
GooseBaba:if only you something to say... (where something = logical,sensible, sound). Your most intelligent statement is foolish (time created God), the rest are insults, to hide your hollowness (babble, etc). If only you had something worth thinking on to spill, if only... Your next utterance i predict will fall into a) something illogical/unsound /nonsensical logic. (time created God, God received inheritance -ignoring context) or b) Insult hurling (babble, etc). You really are an empty vessel and it's showing in your responses! |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 11:28pm On Mar 11, 2016 |
cloudgoddess: You claim to be educated (and by extension ,versed in logical reasoning) yet you can't pursue a logical discussion without generating into personal attacks on your opponent. How logical is that? If you dont know how to argue decently; press your points logically-then dont engage in these things. Find those that like taking bashings or side journeys and engage them. Says person who has likely not read a single book on any of these topics, and has likely only heard twisted, caricatured misinformations from their pastors Not read on evolution? twisted, caricatured information from their pastors? - You could do well to point out clearly what the twisted, caricatured information are. And what's with the pastor part? Christians can think for themselves? Your response is condescending and insulting. of idiotic statements that no scientist has ever claimed, so that their followers can stay ignorant and distrustful of science idiotic statements - what statements exactly? You could have given examples. so that their followers can stay ignorant of and distrustful of science? - many christians are as educated as you could name it. In all fields of science. Churches use technology created by science. so where did you get this spill from? Who told you and what gives you the impression that pastors and christians are anti-science? We are against what doesnt conform with the scriptures and when science conflicts with the Word , science takes the back seat (at least in theory). but a person who has only read one book written 20 centuries ago, and does not even understand basic science, not be brainwashed? Does time mean obsolescence? It is the norm that ideologies, fade out and require adjustment with time- but does the mere passage of time, mean an idea is obsolete? Think on that. The answer is NO. if an idea is perfect or consistent- then 1000 million years laters it won't need an update. update for the sake of update is just meaningless norm. Man's ideas require update an reappraisal every so often, why? because, man is always in the dark. He is always in darkness, ignorance, lost. Hence he has to learn to push back the darkness and gain some insight. As he gains more insight, he modifies his former idea. Improvement and change is because of imperfection. On, the other hand, God is perfect, He is not learning or improving, hence, He doesnt need to edit his Word. Don't classify the bible with other man made books because they are different. even though there is no evidence for any of it's claims 'No' is an absolute word- of course this position is wrong. The dating system you use is named after Jesus Christ . B.C, A.D, that's enough evidence that the Man in the bible really existed. Science has proved the bible right times and times over. The Bible is 100% consistent . A lot of what you mean by 'evidence' in most cases is 'physical evidence' Evidence of the 5 senses. But this goes against the position of God's principle and design. By the bible, man is a spirit, with a soul, and a body. and the real man is the spirit. God is a spirit. Saying if something isnt 5 sense percievable, it isnt real is a fallout of fallen man's fallen thinking. Fallen man, can only percieve his body and mind, and so asserts that if anything is out of these scope it isnt real. Please read a book, and I am serious. Educate yourself. You mean educate myself away from the Bible's stand on an issue? An issue as fundamental as how life was formed? Sorry, you education is a miseducation. It is deception. You are being decieved. It doesnt matter how many books you read. How may phD's you bag. When you step out of the bible's point, you in satan's territory and you've been set up for deception. It is educated people who discovered that 'gayness' is in the 'blood' i.e in the genes. So that people are predisposed to being gay and can't help it. Yeah!! guess what, that idea isnt from God. When God was smoking sodom and gomorrhah , He didnt say, "All those born gay, step aside ". They were all incinerated. There's something called 'false science'. Besides, not all scientists are agreed on the theory of evolution! Many Many believe in God. On the other hand, I know of no scientist who rejects Einstein's theory of relativity? That theory is clearly demonstrable. Evolution is a conjecture . It has large logic loopholes. Too large to be ignored. How did life evolve on Earth? The answer to this question can help us understand our past and prepare for our future. The bible has answered this question. You can choose the bible's answer or sciences. Eventually, this science you are so gong-ho about will dove-tail will blatant satan worship. Notice, that in the eyes of science, there's no morality. Because, morality cannot be proven. i.e it's not subject to the 5 senses. But they use worlds like 'ethical' - which is a thinly vieled synonym for conscience. How hypocritical these people are. They believe that man is body only, a freak accident, with no purpose in life and no future past the grave. Yet invoke judgement by conscience - using a masking word like 'ethical'. The bible says what the future is: for unbelievers and believers alike. If you are not in Christ, you have no future. period. Although evolution provides credible and reliable answers Evolution is a scam. It may provide some answers but it is a logical debacle. The bible also provides definite answers that evolution is trying to answer. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 5:34pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
asalimpo: Empty vessel..... Guy you too funny... I'm not the one who needs a babble before I can reason objectively. You're the idiot trying to make atheism a religious group. Through the power of evolution THEORY... How else do I address a dunce who sees himself as an intelligent cretin.. The idiot that equals an assertion as a belief. Since you must subject everything to your babble. I say rest in stu.pid.. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 7:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
GooseBaba:Like i said , if only you had something to say... With no life in your brain all you can degenerate is gutter behaviour. Without belief in a creator all you are left with is evolution. Stop being daft. Do some thinking for once... As for saying you are an empty vessel,its no cuss. You are simply hollow. Any1 saying time created God , is epic in that department.. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 10:41pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
asalimpo: I don hear..... Rest in stu.pid.. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by asalimpo(m): 10:48am On Mar 13, 2016 |
GooseBaba:same to you. |
Re: When Rapture Occurs Will Atheists Believe? by GooseBaba: 3:22pm On Mar 14, 2016 |
asalimpo: I hope no hard feelings... |
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