musKeeto:

In what context for does Death mean temporary sacrifice? Jeez...

In what context does sacrifice mean permanence? That is what I'm after. Show me the definition of sacrifice as being permanent in nature, then I'll know you have a point.

Jesus already knew He would be raised from the dead. That did not stop Him from 'giving' His life. Last time I checked, giving something you would ordinarily keep to others for their good and satisfaction is sacrifice. If I gave you my plate of food so that you will find satisfaction in eating, does my act of giving become lending just because I have more food in the pot?

Just listen to yourself. I give my life for a brother. I died. It is a sacrifice. I give my life for a brother. I died. Some days later, by some inexplicable means, I came back to life. My action of giving up my life is not a sacrifice because I came back to life. By your argument, you atheists define sacrifice as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, isn't it?

I have told you guys, and I say it again, whether you define sacrifice as permanent loss where temporary loss is lending or you define it as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, since your definition of sacrifice and your argument of the same are in stark contrast with each other, and judging from your inability to tell the difference between what constitutes an act of sacrifice and what constitutes an act of lending, I hereby rest my case.

GooseBaba:


"death which is permanent is not able to hold him "..Bros you read wetin you write so.?

If death is impossible to hold him, then that makes his sacrifice null and void. If you know before hand that your love one would die in front of you and ressurect in 3 days would you cry? If yes? Cry for what? the guy just make him mama cry anyhow for nothing..

In other words, the act of selfless sacrifice is null and void if the object of sacrifice is replaced in the future. Please read my post above.

CaptainJune:


In other words, the act of selfless sacrifice is null and void if the object of sacrifice is replaced in the future. Please read my post above.

Selfless sacrifice can mean anything. We're talking about death, died, corpse. I'm thinking with an open mind, while you're thinking with your church mind.

Subjecting your mind to the narrative does not absolve it of its flaws.

CaptainJune, you are just bringing in unnecessary Logic here. How exactly is Jesus or God's death a sacrifice? Sacrifice to what end? Sacrifice to who and for what?
He was a spirit man. He took a temporary flesh body and looses it for just three days and in those three days he just simply became his main spirit man. After that he came back to temporal flesh. And you call that a sacrifice? Lol
Yet he willingly returned back to his spirit being. What's the sacrifice there really?
If I am asked to die for the whole world for three days and you give me just 10000 naira in return, I will gladly "sacrifice" my life

CaptainJune:


In what context does sacrifice mean permanence? That is what I'm after. Show me the definition of sacrifice as being permanent in nature, then I'll know you have a point.

Jesus already knew He would be raised from the dead. That did not stop Him from 'giving' His life. Last time I checked, giving something you would ordinarily keep to others for their good and satisfaction is sacrifice. If I gave you my plate of food so that you will find satisfaction in eating, does my act of giving become lending just because I have more food in the pot?

Just listen to yourself. I give my life for a brother. I died. It is a sacrifice. I give my life for a brother. I died. Some days later, by some inexplicable means, I came back to life. My action of giving up my life is not a sacrifice because I came back to life. By your argument, you atheists define sacrifice as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, isn't it?

I have told you guys, and I say it again, whether you define sacrifice as permanent loss where temporary loss is lending or you define it as the loss of something that can never be regained or the act of giving up something that can never be returned, since your definition of sacrifice and your argument of the same are in stark contrast with each other, and judging from your inability to tell the difference between what constitutes an act of sacrifice and what constitutes an act of lending, I hereby rest my case.

In summary, Jesus' sacrifice was the pain and anguish leading he suffered leading up to his death, since he never really lost His life. At best, it was a hibernation. How is that a more worthy sacrifice than his disciples who paid the ultimate price of death and stayed dead?

Getting resurrected means you never 'died' . In fact, this forms a core part of Christian theology on death. Death is viewed as a form of temporary sleep. Like Sleeping Beauty, The Prince of Peace shall come in all of his glory and his kiss shall awaken thee. SELAH.

As I earlier said, the livestock sacrificed in the Old Testament never had the option of resurrection. Either ways, your arguments takes the gloss off the 419 of Calvary. One doesn't need to be divine to suffer pain and anguish.

frank317:
CaptainJune, you are just bringing in unnecessary Logic here. How exactly is Jesus or God's death a sacrifice? Sacrifice to what end? Sacrifice to who and for what?
He was a spirit man. He took a temporary flesh body and looses it for just three days and in those three days he just simply became his main spirit man. After that he came back to temporal flesh. And you call that a sacrifice? Lol
Yet he willingly returned back to his spirit being. What's the sacrifice there really?
If I am asked to die for the whole world for three days and you give me just 10000 naira in return, I will gladly "sacrifice" my life

I tell you. The nigga just had a bad weekend.

am0sn0nyu:
I SUPPOSE ANY OF YOU AFRICAN CHRISTIAN CONVERTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A RATIONAL ANSWER

SOURCE

Here's your answer. Pls be kind enough to read through it. Thanks.


That Jesus gave up His life that you might be saved. That’s a sacrifice.
Jesus said in John 10:18, “No one can take my life from Me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."

He had the power to take it up or lay it down but rather He chose to give it up for our sake so that through His death, we may have life and deliverance from sin/ fallen nature. That’s a sacrifice.

We can’t even begin to quantify His agony, the agony that made His sweat become like drops of blood as He prayed fervently in the garden of Gethsemane.

He was in anguish because He was completely man but He had to do it because He loves you. That’s a sacrifice.

Despite the fact that He knew the horrors of what He was going to face, He still said, “Yet Father not My will but Your will be done.” That’s a sacrifice.
They rejected Him. He took it.

They mocked Him. He took it.

They slapped Him. He took it.

They yelled at Him. He took it.

They insulted him, beat him, pushed Him around, flogged Him with a lead tipped whip, yet He did not say a word in defense of Himself.


They drove a crown of thorns into His weary head and subjected Him to a gruesome and shameful death. Still He bore it, all for you. That is SACRIFICE.

You were on His mind as He walked down that long and dreary road to Calvary. Jesus put you first. That is Sacrifice.

It was important He rose from death. For His resurrection symbolizes total victory over death. This is the foundation of Christianity. This is what makes us who we are.

If Jesus did not rise from death our faith is futile. What’s the use believing in a dead God? But for the fact He rose, we live without the fear of death because we know we have hope. We will rise again just as Jesus did.

A spiritually myopic person cannot understand this. To him it is plain foolishness but God has used the foolish things of the world to shame the wise (1 Cor 1:27)


So when you sit down to curse out the Lord who gave His life that you might be saved by just believing in Him, please remember that ‘Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.’ (John 15:13) It means that Jesus loves you with an unquantifiable love even when you despise Him.

Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the ultimate sacrifice!
Happy resurrection. Enjoy your holiday.

See d link===> nairaland.com/3009595/re-how-jesus-death-sacrifice

Its funny how Jesus flies into heaven never to be seen again, leaving behind no evidence whatsoever for these magical miracles.

The muslim story is just the same, some guy called mohammed was sitting alone in a cave then angel Gabriel appeared to him and recited the words that became the koran for 23 FVCKING YEARS !

Again no evidence whatsoever for this magical encounter, just mohammeds word.

Just like the card game, I am calling BULLSHIIT.

All you atheists, you have come again. Please, I hope you haven't come to play the devil's role that occurred in the temptation of Jesus. satan to Jesus:"if you are the son of God, turn this stone to bread" Assuming, christ hadn't resurrected, you would say that he is like other fake prophets like mohammed. You would have succeeded in making mockery of our christian faith. If christ hadn't resurrected, who will EVER believ in him and his divinity. Unlike other fake prophets like mohammed, who died on poison. Jesus' death is NOT accidental to him, he FOREKNEW IT, he knew for sure that he is the lamb of God(in flesh) that taketh away the sins of the whole world. Jesus knew that it will take him, dying in the likeness of a sinful flesh, for us to be saved. He resurrected as an assurance of our justification. If he hadn't resurrected, how will we be sure that our debt has been paid. 1cor 15:14; "AND IF CHRIST BE NOT RISEN, then is our preaching vain, and YOUR FAITH IS ALSO IN VAIN." The resurrection of Jesus is what proves him lord over death. Jesus died for our condemnation and he RESURRECTED for our justification. If he died and after death(paying our debt), he couldn't defeat death, then he will be like other fake prophets who came and will still come before him. Nevertheless, Jesus intentionally knew that he will die and on the third day, he shall rise from the death. This is a DIVINE plan for man's justification.

lepasharon:
Its funny how Jesus flies into heaven never to be seen again, leaving behind no evidence whatsoever for these magical miracles.

The muslim story is just the same, some guy called mohammed was sitting alone in a cave then angel Gabriel appeared to him and recited the words that became the koran for 23 FVCKING YEARS !

Again no evidence whatsoever for this magical encounter, just mohammeds word.

Just like the card game, I am calling BULLSHIIT.

You see how senseless you are in your thoughts?

Who told you that no one saw Jesus when he ascended, there leaving no evidence?

For your info, Jesus addressed his disciple and many other before ascending IN THEIR PRESENCE.

19 So then AFTER THE LORD HAD SPOKEN UNTO THEM, he was RECEIVED UP(ascended) into heaven....."

Right there, after speaking to them, he ascended.

People saw him ascending, unlike mohammed, who had no witness that he was given a message by God in a cave.

promise101:

You see how senseless you are in your thoughts?

Who told you that no one saw Jesus when he ascended, there leaving no evidence?

For your info, Jesus addressed his disciple and many other before ascending IN THEIR PRESENCE.

19 So then AFTER THE LORD HAD SPOKEN UNTO THEM, he was RECEIVED UP(ascended) into heaven....."

Right there, after speaking to them, he ascended.

People saw him ascending, unlike mohammed, who had no witness that he was given a message by God in a cave.

Dickhead, where is the evidence for Jesus' miracles. Surely these magical miracles should have more evidence than the pages of the Bible.

lepasharon:


Dickhead, where is the evidence for Jesus' miracles. Surely these magical miracles should have more evidence than the pages of the Bible.

Stop behaving so mannerless!

Oh! You asked that?
Really sorry for you!

How did you know that, abraham lincoln, mary slessor, albert einstein, rutherford, isaac newton, martin-luther king ever existed?

What is your physical proof of their existence?
Did you met them?
Have you talked with them?
Ate with them?
Touched them?
Then what is you evidential personal proof of believing their existence?
What if their so-called pictures you have seen before are framed up and not their real pictures?


What is your physical evidence for the law of gravity?
You threw something up and it fell down, who told you it is gravitational force?
What if it is MAGIC?
Have a seen, eaten, talked, and slept with the force of gravity, that made you to be sure of it's existence before believing?


ANWSER THE QUESTIONS ABOVE, AND SEE FOR YOURSELF, HOW STUPID AND SENSELESS YOU REALLY ARE.

TrueBorn:


Here's your answer. Pls be kind enough to read through it. Thanks.


That Jesus gave up His life that you might be saved. That’s a sacrifice.
Jesus said in John 10:18, “No one can take my life from Me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded."

He had the power to take it up or lay it down but rather He chose to give it up for our sake so that through His death, we may have life and deliverance from sin/ fallen nature. That’s a sacrifice.

We can’t even begin to quantify His agony, the agony that made His sweat become like drops of blood as He prayed fervently in the garden of Gethsemane.

He was in anguish because He was completely man but He had to do it because He loves you. That’s a sacrifice.

Despite the fact that He knew the horrors of what He was going to face, He still said, “Yet Father not My will but Your will be done.” That’s a sacrifice.
They rejected Him. He took it.

They mocked Him. He took it.

They slapped Him. He took it.

They yelled at Him. He took it.

They insulted him, beat him, pushed Him around, flogged Him with a lead tipped whip, yet He did not say a word in defense of Himself.


They drove a crown of thorns into His weary head and subjected Him to a gruesome and shameful death. Still He bore it, all for you. That is SACRIFICE.

You were on His mind as He walked down that long and dreary road to Calvary. Jesus put you first. That is Sacrifice.

It was important He rose from death. For His resurrection symbolizes total victory over death. This is the foundation of Christianity. This is what makes us who we are.

If Jesus did not rise from death our faith is futile. What’s the use believing in a dead God? But for the fact He rose, we live without the fear of death because we know we have hope. We will rise again just as Jesus did.

A spiritually myopic person cannot understand this. To him it is plain foolishness but God has used the foolish things of the world to shame the wise (1 Cor 1:27)


So when you sit down to curse out the Lord who gave His life that you might be saved by just believing in Him, please remember that ‘Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.’ (John 15:13) It means that Jesus loves you with an unquantifiable love even when you despise Him.

Jesus is the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. He is the ultimate sacrifice!
Happy resurrection. Enjoy your holiday.

See d link===> nairaland.com/3009595/re-how-jesus-death-sacrifice

Lmao...!!!

Why believe in a god that can die..? That means he can be killed... Instead of him ressurecting and showing himself to a hand full of HIS CREW before ascending.
He should have visited the people that mastermind his beatings, and walked the streets where everyone saw him crying like a little bitcch 3 days prior.

His death put fear in your heart.... Tell me, why do you battle satan and his crew if you're not afraid of death. Stop decieving yourself...

Meanwhile, your guy jesus was a hippie in his time. He fuvked with the ruling class of his time. They set him up and nailed his azz to a cross like other common criminal... The died just like the two thieves. Finito!!!

GooseBaba:


"death which is permanent is not able to hold him "..Bros you read wetin you write so.?

If death is impossible to hold him, then that makes his sacrifice null and void. If you know before hand that your love one would die in front of you and ressurect in 3 days would you cry? If yes? Cry for what? the guy just make him mama cry anyhow for nothing..

My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus?

Jesus can only reveal Himself to u when u allow Him. He can't force His way into ur heart.

Jesus said, 'behold, I stand at d door of ur heart and knock. Whoever opens up to Me, I will come in and dine with him and he with Me.'

Next question u may ask me is, how do I know dat what is d truth?

Faith.

I simply believed even tho humanly speaking d message of d cross sounds like foolishness but when I opened my heart in faith, tho not having any empirical evidence abinicio, God revealed d truth to me.

If u want to come to God, u must come like a child. Empty urself of all ur so called feeble wisdom and come. Cos as long as u harden up ur hrt and try to analyze, reason, rationalize and understand God, even if I explain from today til tomorrow, u will never see sense in wot I am saying.


Faith makes us believe even when we don't see bc we know God cannot lie. Human wisdom says, 'I must see before I believe'. Jesus said, ' blessed are those who believe who believe without seeing Me' John 20:29

It's impossible to analyze God. He is beyond human and angelic imagination. That's why thru Jesus, He gives us His Holy Spirit who reveals and teaches us everything we need to know.


Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

If only u'd stop hardening up ur hrt and let God.

TrueBorn:
My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus?

Jesus can only reveal Himself to u when u allow Him. He can't force His way into ur heart.

Jesus said, 'behold, I stand at d door of ur heart and knock. Whoever opens up to Me, I will come in and dine with him and he with Me.'

Next question u may ask me is, how do I know dat what is d truth?

Faith.

I simply believed even tho humanly speaking d message of d cross sounds like foolishness but when I opened my heart in faith, tho not having any empirical evidence abinicio, God revealed d truth to me.

If u want to come to God, u must come like a child. Empty urself of all ur so called feeble wisdom and come. Cos as long as u harden up ur hrt and try to analyze, reason, rationalize and understand God, even if I explain from today til tomorrow, u will never see sense in wot I am saying.


Faith makes us believe even when we don't see bc we know God cannot lie. Human wisdom says, 'I must see before I believe'. Jesus said, ' blessed are those who believe who believe without seeing Me' John 20:29

It's impossible to analyze God. He is beyond human and angelic imagination. That's why thru Jesus, He gives us His Holy Spirit who reveals and teaches us everything we need to know.


Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

If only u'd stop hardening up ur hrt and let God.

Lol.....yeah

Bla bla bla as usual. Why don't you have faith in allah. Why are you harding your heart against the prophet muhammad message. Why did you use your feeble wisdom to reject the Gods of your ancestors.? Why didn't you come as a child before your ancestoral teachings..? Why do you forsake the love of your great great great grandparents..? But with your "faith " you have a relationship with a dead man that died 2000+ years ago whom you never met... Your faith equals delusion nothing more.

So you see. Hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to peddling or claiming delusion. Jesus was a hippie that challenge the status quo. He made claims that he could not fulfill, that's why your likes have been waiting for his second coming. My friend, your jesus is dead and gone like your forefathers before you. And that's a fact!!!

GooseBaba:



Lmao...!!!

Why believe in a god that can die..? That means he can be killed... Instead of him ressurecting and showing himself to a hand full of HIS CREW before ascending.
He should have visited the people that mastermind his beatings, and walked the streets where everyone saw him crying like a little bitcch 3 days prior.

His death put fear in your heart.... Tell me, why do you battle satan and his crew if you're not afraid of death. Stop decieving yourself...

Meanwhile, your guy jesus was a hippie in his time. He fuvked with the ruling class of his time. They set him up and nailed his azz to a cross like other common criminal... The died just like the two thieves. Finito!!!

My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus? I am sure u trying so hard to make urself feel good by insulting my King.

Go ahead and make urself believe what u like. It's u who truly is decieving urself. Smh. Go ahead dear but d end will tell.

All d opportunity u have for repentance is here. Now. This very minute. There is a place called eternity.

Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

A word is enough for d wise.

GooseBaba:



Lol.....yeah

Bla bla bla as usual. Why don't you have faith in allah. Why are you harding your heart against the prophet muhammad message. Why did you use your feeble wisdom to reject the Gods of your ancestors.? Why didn't you come as a child before your ancestoral teachings..? Why do you forsake the love of your great great great grandparents..? But with your "faith " you have a relationship with a dead man that died 2000+ years ago whom you never met... Your faith equals delusion nothing more.

So you see. Hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to peddling or claiming delusion. Jesus was a hippie that challenge the status quo. He made claims that he could not fulfill, that's why your likes have been waiting for his second coming. My friend, your jesus is dead and gone like your forefathers before you. And that's a fact!!!

Suit urself dear. The end will tell but then it wld be too late. U are trying so hard to convince urself.

Why do u hate Jesus so much? What wrong did He do to u? because u know that He is d Light dat exposes all ur sins but bc u just don't want to give up ur lifestyle, u insult Him to feel good, abi? No wahala dear. Whatever tickles ur fancy.

But keep dis in mind, "Be careful that u do not refuse to listen to d One who is speaking. For if of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, we will certainly not escape if we reject d One who speak to us from heaven" Heb 12:25

I rest my case.

TrueBorn:


My friend, it's like u are working so hard to confute God's Word and I wonder why. If u know sincerely, deep within ur hrt, that what u believe is true, why are u wasting all this energy in trying to find a loophole with Jesus? I am sure u trying so hard to make urself feel good by insulting my King.

Go ahead and make urself believe what u like. It's u who truly is decieving urself. Smh. Go ahead dear but d end will tell.

All d opportunity u have for repentance is here. Now. This very minute. There is a place called eternity.

Arguments about Jesus will take u no where. No matter how u try to dispute it, it won't make Him less of who He is. If u want to know the truth, I invite u to experience Him for urself cos until then there's nothing I can do here any more. It will be like pouring water onto a stone.

A word is enough for d wise.

There is no king to insult here only the legacy of a dead man.

Meanwhile, how far are you with coming over to worship the one true God of your ancestors. No repentance needed. Just meaningful understanding of who you are. Your heritage, your culture has no business with Israel just as a true isrealites has no business with your heritage or culture. Wake up from your slumber and stop worshipping the dead. It's unnatural!!

TrueBorn:


Suit urself dear. The end will tell but then it wld be too late. U are trying so hard to convince urself.

Why do u hate Jesus so much? What wrong did He do to u? because u know that He is d Light dat exposes all ur sins but bc u just don't want to give up ur lifestyle, u insult Him to feel good, abi? No wahala dear. Whatever tickles ur fancy.

But keep dis in mind, "Be careful that u do not refuse to listen to d One who is speaking. For if of Israel did not escape when they refused to listen to Moses, the earthly messenger, we will certainly not escape if we reject d One who speak to us from heaven" Heb 12:25

I rest my case.

What hate!!? Try and reason like a normal human being. What sin have i committed against the dead that I never met. You believe in absurdities. Besides what is SIN...? And whom did I sin against. Tell me with proof. Don't lay claims and accusations on me. What kind of lifestyle do you know that I live, apart from your deluded accusations and blackmail.

You've been indoctrinated into dead man worship. Now you are busy convincing yourself that you have a relationship with the dead. The people you know before they died. Do you still communicate with them or have personal relationships with them as we converse..? If no. Then who is fooling oneself... Look in the mirror bro, free your mind from bondage. Life is for the living not the dead. However, we must honor the legacies of those before us,, not worship them through delusion.

Mbg

Op emi esu ngbe inu e o

GooseBaba:



Lol.....yeah

Bla bla bla as usual. Why don't you have faith in allah. Why are you harding your heart against the prophet muhammad message. Why did you use your feeble wisdom to reject the Gods of your ancestors.? Why didn't you come as a child before your ancestoral teachings..? Why do you forsake the love of your great great great grandparents..? But with your "faith " you have a relationship with a dead man that died 2000+ years ago whom you never met... Your faith equals delusion nothing more.

So you see. Hypocrisy is the order of the day when it comes to peddling or claiming delusion. Jesus was a hippie that challenge the status quo. He made claims that he could not fulfill, that's why your likes have been waiting for his second coming. My friend, your jesus is dead and gone like your forefathers before you. And that's a fact!!!

chai omo you bad o.

;DEndtime question

good question here!

And this is the part where I am supposed to convince you that it he actually sacrificed his life? Go buy a bible bruuh.

Atlantian:
It is all lies and control statements. Jesus never resurrected. No one goes into space with this body. Oxygen is not there at high altitude. How can his body survive without oxygen. I doubt the resurrection story 100%.

I am 100% certain that you are a dead man walking!! Jesus said, they see me, but knows me not. Sin to Holy Spirit has no forgiveness, cos Jesus is Lord and HE is the spirit of the LIVING GOD. You will never see him when u die but u will see him if u genuinely repented of your sin. People like you are in hell blaming themselves for not accepting JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR.
ACCEPT HIM TODAY BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!

HE DIED AND ROSE AGAIN SO THAT YOU MIGHT NOT DIE THE SECOND DEATH. Get a Bible and study why He died for you.

CaptainJune:


Lol. True. Other examples you fail to consider:

1. I sacrifice (give up) my bed so that my younger one may sleep in it for three nights. Have I lost my bed forever?

2. I sacrifice (give up) the use of my laptop for the day so that a friend may use it to complete an assignment. Have I lost my laptop forever?

3. I sacrifice (give up) my car so that my brother may use it to go for a job interview in time since his is still under repair. Have I lost my car forever?

What in the definition of sacrifice implies that the use of the word must be associated with permanent loss?

Your theory is flawed. Not that I want to get involved in the whole Jesus thing, as I'm a Muslim and we believe Jesus is coming back and will be given the privilege to judge, but you can't sacrifice your life and get the chance to use it, like, say, 72 hours later. If we die, we die. Stop using sleep as an analogy, it's a mismatch, really.

CANTICLES:
The question is solved , ONCE you realize that Jesus is the high priest of the New Covenant . ( Hebrews 8:1 )

In ancient Isreal , the sacrifice is not completed until the high priest enter into the Most Holy place with the blood of the sacrificed animals .

thats a shadow of what Christ will do .

This Requires That For the sacrifice of Christ to be completed and accepted , he must rise and enter into the heavens on our behalf . Hey ! Dont forget he is the high priest of this new covenant .

" However when Christ came as a high priest .. He entered into the holy place , not with the blood of goats and of young bulls, but with his own blood, once for all time, and obtained an everlasting deliverance for us" - Heb 9:11,12, 24 .

I think the book of Hebrews is a letter by Apostle Paul, what if Paul is wrong?

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