nattybanta:
@halimacurves: 247 electricity in uae? Free WiFi? Maybe try other Emirates. Its (eletricity)only obtainable in sharjah, abudhabi and dubai. WiFi isn't free.

nattybanta:
@halimacurves: 247 electricity in uae? Free WiFi? Maybe try other Emirates. Its (eletricity)only obtainable in sharjah, abudhabi and dubai. WiFi isn't free.

Halimacurves:
Let me try to answer your questions...

I do not know why some companies withhold peoples passports but i know not all companies do so..i once told my company to hold mine so that i do not misplace it...i am a bit forgetful sometimes. My company declined stating that if my passport were to go missing or get damaged in their care then it would be a financial burden on them. My friend here always requests for her passport at any time she needs it and it is given to her... so i would say it all depends on the company and not ALL companies. There is no law in UAE saying you must give your passport to your company.

as per living costs and conditions... it depends on time management and planning..if you cook your meals in UAE by yourself then forget it..feeding costs is affordable...Living costs..by that you must mean electricity bills and rent...the answer to that lies in the amount of roommates you have..if you are 6 in a room in sharjah you will pay between 400-500 aed per month and if you are earning around 1500 aed that would be high right?...hence the reason why there are as many as 8 in a room to save costs. Now put it like this if a company that actually employs you legally is involved then as low as that salary is there will be side benefits such as housing and transport but that the conditions of the rooms are bad..that is mainly because of the occupants and the fact that they are sharing amenities...Now let me tell you what i have noticed...Fillipinos in UAE try to save money irrespective of how much they earn so they live 8 to 12 in a room. But the rooms are always clean and tidy and funny enough you will never hear loud chatter or music..Am i saying that Africans are noisy and dirty..YES..most are. You and your roomies if you can agree can always remove bunks and put beds in the room and Behind it up...

Hope i have answered your questions based on what i know...meanwhile you said you worked in adverse weather conditions..please tell them o...because they will now say they did not know UK has -16 degrees Celsius and UAE has +45/48 degrees Celsius in extreme periods...ehnnnn

As per why we are talking of menial jobs..me self i tiya...menial jobs do not have Nigerian stamp on them in UAE...at all..far from it..in fact Nigerians are revered because they appreciate our literacy and education..or else why do we have nurses and doctors here..the only reason Nigerians face menial jobs in UAE is time...3 months visa is not enough most times to land a job given that the GLOBAL ECONOMY is facing challenges...so most people resort to whatever they see...and why do they do so? because when they experience light 24/7, AC 24/7, internet facilities 24/7...they begin to have HOPE and BELIEF that in time they will get a better life here.
Am sure some people think that when they enter Canada money will just start running up to them at the runway and saying take me take me...the truth is that most Nigerians in UK,Canada or US do the same old things...marry citizens to save their necks or hide from the Law cos they are illegal immigrants..the rest study and do G...

ammyluv2002:
Even my grandmother in the village will understand this post perfectly. Very comprehensive

OlowoB:


I agree with some of the points you raised but

(1) You refused to address the issue of someone's passport been seized for about 2 years ( that to me shows a country that does not value the rights of the employees) while working in UAE.

(2) Converting what you earn over there to naira is another wrong way of seeing things cos you don't spend naira over there...do you? what about living cost? you said rooms are given to people...is it convenient? i hope you know people have different tolerant levels? so lets always give balanced opinions.

On a side note, when i first arrived in UK, i did menial jobs also...i did security under the snow for football matches (please try and find out how the weather is in Scotland...you go know wassup), kitchen porter (washing plates, and big big pots with all joy ) , did care jobs (took care of old people) etc but not everyone can do what i did when i first came here and i had a good qualification coming here o..... you know naija people like a lavish lifestyle too much....person wey no get job dey use iPhone 6 that kind person go fit wash plate? so we need to tell them wasp ...so they are well prepared mentally before coming.

To be honest, i would not even advise anyone to come to the UK ...(i would always say go to canada ahead of UK) not with the current immigration laws they bring out almost every April (we are waiting for what they will say in the coming weeks again ) which to my own opinion is antiImmigrant rules....except of course the person has a guaranteed job waiting for him or her after finishing his masters in UK.

I never said Naija is better than UAE o( you can't compare death to sleep) ..... while travelling to the UK, i took a connecting flight (emirates airlines) and i stopped at dubai airport and i was like wow.....definitely such a country with a nice airport like that is going to be better than my naija (naija will get better i am hopeful someday )

But we should learn to evaluate issues relating to the UAE....the advantages and disadvantages should be said here to give people a balanced perspective before coming over. They should know what to expect and not get their hopes too high at least for the first 3-4 years but with time...with time..those who can persevere will definitely smile to the bank.

cheers

agarawu23:
truth hurts but we can't stop saying it

Point 1, she is using black market rate to convert aed to naira. Help me remind her western Union conversion isn't up to 55k (but I don't know if they have alternative where they can send with high rate) .

Point 2. Let's assume 1000 aed is 81k, what is the cost of living in Dubai? this is what most expat aren't putting into consideration before leaving their country . living in Dubai is damn expensive. so how much will be left to send to your families back home after living the expensive life?

Point 3, I don't know Dubai WiFi is codeless where u can just open your WiFi and hot spot to connect. . Access to internet isn't cheap there . My monthly 2gb plan on my phone isn't up to #500 monthly and my internet boundle for my PC is 3k per month (unlimited) . Yes! I live in north Africa but I can bet my balls that life is better for me here than Dubai and the only country I can migrate to is USA. Los Angeles or I go back to my country

Point 5. There is no doubt you must be hard working if you wanna survive any foreign countries and they dont pluck money in trees there (as many Nigerians do think) Gradually, if you are focus and you open your brain to learn their language fast, u will start moving higher and having access to some advantage. BTW why should a company employ me and hold my passport? That's total nonsense no matter the explanation you will give me.

We have a lot of lost ppl abroad that their lavish lifestyle has ruined their life and these set of ppl will never return or visit home cos they have nothing to show for. You must be 100% economical no matter how high/low your salary is if you don't want to remain a slave for life in a foreign land.

Dubai is a mordern slavery. But I don't doubt there aren't job opportunities there.

A country where their citizens can't do the skilled/unskilled job you are doing is called what?

I will keep wishing those migrating there best of luck. Who knows? Their dream might/may be there

Halimacurves:
Very funny...you definitely are responding based on hearsay...there is no black market here...meanwhile last time I checked the median rates for forex does not determine the rates at which it will be used here...anyway we send at high rates here black home to nija so yes it's 81 for now...meanwhile it was 45 back in 2014...nawa.
I've answered your questions about living expenses so read up....again...and again...and again

WiFi is not free or cheap but it is affordable based on how many people are using it and for databundle well I never said anything bout that...

As per your other comments I will let slide because based on those we agree...but as per UAE being modern slavery that's fine by me if you feel so...am not here for you am here for those who will bbe slaves first in order to be kings in their own right ....if UAE is modern slavery then why is 70% of occupants in uae expatriates ...abeg go siddon.

Nigeria is modern day slavery where educated people are poor and uneducated people rule...and rule with so much cruelty that all Nigerians are trying to run away from nija

agarawu23:
70% of ppl going there were tricked with lies and expectations that do not exist.

Just like our brother that's now learning how do drive as his employment is ready in Dubai with a mansion and car

Halimacurves:
And who is BEHIND that scam work visa....a NIGERIAN not an emirati or UAE ...

Stop misleading people ... everywhere has the good and bad side...go to Nigeria from that north African country you are and stay put n.a....UAE not be by force na

agarawu23:
lol @ misleading. Na my money them dey use do visa? I am just sharing my own view cos we can't reason together

Nigeria is my home land. No place like home

Halimacurves:
Let me try to answer your questions...

I do not know why some companies withhold peoples passports but i know not all companies do so..i once told my company to hold mine so that i do not misplace it...i am a bit forgetful sometimes. My company declined stating that if my passport were to go missing or get damaged in their care then it would be a financial burden on them. My friend here always requests for her passport at any time she needs it and it is given to her... so i would say it all depends on the company and not ALL companies. There is no law in UAE saying you must give your passport to your company.

as per living costs and conditions... it depends on time management and planning..if you cook your meals in UAE by yourself then forget it..feeding costs is affordable...Living costs..by that you must mean electricity bills and rent...the answer to that lies in the amount of roommates you have..if you are 6 in a room in sharjah you will pay between 400-500 aed per month and if you are earning around 1500 aed that would be high right?...hence the reason why there are as many as 8 in a room to save costs. Now put it like this if a company that actually employs you legally is involved then as low as that salary is there will be side benefits such as housing and transport but that the conditions of the rooms are bad..that is mainly because of the occupants and the fact that they are sharing amenities...Now let me tell you what i have noticed...Fillipinos in UAE try to save money irrespective of how much they earn so they live 8 to 12 in a room. But the rooms are always clean and tidy and funny enough you will never hear loud chatter or music..Am i saying that Africans are noisy and dirty..YES..most are. You and your roomies if you can agree can always remove bunks and put beds in the room and Behind it up...

Hope i have answered your questions based on what i know...meanwhile you said you worked in adverse weather conditions..please tell them o...because they will now say they did not know UK has -16 degrees Celsius and UAE has +45/48 degrees Celsius in extreme periods...ehnnnn

As per why we are talking of menial jobs..me self i tiya...menial jobs do not have Nigerian stamp on them in UAE...at all..far from it..in fact Nigerians are revered because they appreciate our literacy and education..or else why do we have nurses and doctors here..the only reason Nigerians face menial jobs in UAE is time...3 months visa is not enough most times to land a job given that the GLOBAL ECONOMY is facing challenges...so most people resort to whatever they see...and why do they do so? because when they experience light 24/7, AC 24/7, internet facilities 24/7...they begin to have HOPE and BELIEF that in time they will get a better life here.
Am sure some people think that when they enter Canada money will just start running up to them at the runway and saying take me take me...the truth is that most Nigerians in UK,Canada or US do the same old things...marry citizens to save their necks or hide from the Law cos they are illegal immigrants..the rest study and do G...

europe4sure:
@HALIMACURVES.......God bless you a million time for your write up it shed light on many salient point we U.A.E hopefuls are in need of that our visa agents are not telling us ........we hustling with a masters degree without better job because we are not well connected in Nigeria understands you more than you know ...pls keep the information alive and let those in the U.K come back to Nigeria and buy fuel at #300 per litre to fuel their okada to hustle for their daily bread before they compare nija hustle with dubai's

europe4sure:
@HALIMACURVES.......God bless you a million time for your write up it shed light on many salient point we U.A.E hopefuls are in need of that our visa agents are not telling us ........we hustling with a masters degree without better job because we are not well connected in Nigeria understands you more than you know ...pls keep the information alive and let those in the U.K come back to Nigeria and buy fuel at #300 per litre to fuel their okada to hustle for their daily bread before they compare nija hustle with dubai's

OlowoB:


@ the bolded, i think that clarifies the issue of withholding passport. Well to be honest, some people may have to leave naija to make it (this is the bitter truth) while some just have to stay back in naija, be humble, disciplined and change their mindset.

Thanks for your detailed response.

OlowoB:


bros no be fight na...i am just saying all points should be stated here...the good, the bad and the ugly. i think Halimacurves has done justice to all issues relating to dubai.

God bless our hustle.

Halimacurves:
@olowob i also support your comments...make sense

Halimacurves:
The emirates ID is even more convenient and handy to carry about

You know na..Nigerian's want everything given to them on a platter..because na una dy spend the money company they give govt

I don't like the fact that many Nigerians tend to have to accept certain jobs...even Indians and other nationalities face these things...but funny enough i look at them and tell them to hang in there

Nigerians do not even work in construction companies where Bangalis and Pakistanis and Indians work under intense heat for 14 hours..the least job a Nigerian would ever commit to is cleaning and security and waiter jobs..and they are complaining...they never work under intense heat at the risk of heat stroke or stress and they are blabbing...nawa

nattybanta:
the bolded part is reality. I met two Nigerians working in construction in a site I visited, I really had mercy on them. They were looking like Niger rep refugees dusty hairs. Had to bless them with lunch they told me they earn 600aed and 800aed with overtime. Its really shocking. My only advice is if coming to uae, avoid construction or factory works they pay the least. Security is the most decorated menial job I know of in uae.

nattybanta:
@halimacurves: 247 electricity in uae? Free WiFi? Maybe try other Emirates. Its (eletricity)only obtainable in sharjah, abudhabi and dubai. WiFi isn't free.

nattybanta:
the bolded part is reality. I met two Nigerians working in construction in a site I visited, I really had mercy on them. They were looking like Niger rep refugees dusty hairs. Had to bless them with lunch[size=20pt] they told me they earn 600aed and 800aed with overtime.[/size] Its really shocking. My only advice is if coming to uae, avoid construction or factory works they pay the least. Security is the most decorated menial job I know of in uae.

Halimacurves:
The emirates ID is even more convenient and handy to carry about

You know na..Nigerian's want everything given to them on a platter..because na una dy spend the money company they give govt

I don't like the fact that many Nigerians tend to have to accept certain jobs...even Indians and other nationalities face these things...but funny enough i look at them and tell them to hang in there

Nigerians do not even work in construction companies where Bangalis and Pakistanis and Indians work under intense heat for 14 hours..the least job a Nigerian would ever commit to is cleaning and security and waiter jobs..and they are complaining...they never work under intense heat at the risk of heat stroke or stress and they are blabbing...nawa

agarawu23:
that's the real truth about Dubai, frgt what agents are telling u. Hear from ppl that are living there.

If you need numbers to call in Dubai to ask how things dey happen there, pm me.

Shebi I talk am last week

OlowoB:



you ehn......

agarawu23:
that's the real truth about Dubai, frgt what agents are telling u. Hear from ppl that are living there.

If you need numbers to call in Dubai to ask how things dey happen there, pm me.

Shebi I talk am last week