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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by AfroKnight: 8:08am On Apr 11, 2016
Babzilla:

Excuse me u just picked a line or 2 to argue on did u read the rest of what I put up?
Anyway Im not here to condemn theprivate unis
They are doing well big ups to them but you wont convince me that the standard of education is better

Sorry if I came out too strong. I just wanted to point out that they certainly provide better infrastructure and so their fees are justified.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by hartstein(f): 8:11am On Apr 11, 2016
Funminicrown:
And so?
Does that justify why 400+ students will graduate with a first class out of 1000 graduands?
Private universities are the remote cause of our fall in educational standard.
I stand to be corrected!

I feel your pain the beef game is strong **heheheheheheheh so myopic in reasoning most times I begin to wonder if Nigerians every love the idea of an easy life u must suffer first before u get good education *ogar o well done
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by obioraval(m): 8:11am On Apr 11, 2016
In the labour Market, school doesn't define you. Your Personality defines you. Rat Race...
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by mallamseifaldin(m): 8:11am On Apr 11, 2016
Ok
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by DeRay98(m): 8:12am On Apr 11, 2016
McSterling:
Fact is many of us who attended/attend public institutions have been hardwired to think graduating with a good grade is such a big deal. This is because of the abuse of power by lecturers in public institutions. These lecturers deliberately make a fuss out of easy courses, scare students and set exams in such a way that several would fail. Sometimes they reduce your score or fail you outrightly. Imagine a lecturer telling his students before exams that nobody will get an A in his course. A lecturer of mine would hardly give an A no matter what you write, even when you churn out facts from both textbooks and notes. Makes you wonder, "what fvcking else does this man want from me?" I remember taking CHM 101 in my first year. This was practically basic chemistry. There was nothing in the course I didn't know before, but we had about 3 lecturers handling it and they made such a fuss of this course such that freshers failed en masse at the end of the day.

It is hard for us to accept that private universities like CU only do things the right way. It's more convenient to say they're substandard. It isn't so had to get a first class or second class upper, provided you're studious. That's why many Nigerians perform excellently in universities abroad. Cut out the excesses of lecturers and public institutions will probably churn out more first class students.

VERY SOLID ARGUEMENT ON THE REALITY WITH PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THE LECTURERS ARE THE PROBLEM IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO ANYBODY HENCE THEIR DEMIGOD MENTALITY. LECTURERS STILL IN PRIVATE SCHOOLS (SAME DO TEACH IN PUBLIC SCHOOL) BUT THEY BEHAVE RIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SCHOOL MGT.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by greenify: 8:14am On Apr 11, 2016
The bone of contention here is the cost of running a private institution is very high. Many people don't know what it takes to run a private schools. The cost like..
Power generation
Maintenance
Research work
Cost on human resources
Security
Upgrading of facilities I.e electronics and electrical gadgets. And more like dat.
These are very costly to maintain if u want to adequately provide them to schools.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by orbis(m): 8:17am On Apr 11, 2016
magicminister:
nice write up!

I attended a federal university and i didn't learn jack shitt!. My lodge was robbed twice in 3 years and one of my housemate had his hand chopped off. We were over 300 in a class that shouldn't take more than 80 people.
Lecturers were Gods and we feared them. Merely looking at them "wrongly" could earn you 2 extra years.
One lecturer failed me from first year to third year and only passed me in my final year. The reason for this i can't explain.
The course was dirt cheap but for reasons best known to him, he failed me and some select few from first year to final year.

Its only in public universities that lecturers set tests randomly and use that to grade her students.
Its only in public Universities that you will take an exam in first year and only see the result in third year and you will still fail.
What about cultism and rape? its like a normal thing in most public schools!

Please, you cannot compare the good private schools with the public schools in Nigeria.
Schools like covenant are leading the way while others follow. Forget all the rankings.

If i was an employer, i would give everyone equal opportunity but if i must pick, candidates from REPUTABLE private schools would be my first choice


I also attended a federal public University and I think it made me more resilient with all the shooting, killing, raping and mugging all around. someone with a decent grade from such an environment deserves to be praised and offered a job asap
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by teeb09(m): 8:17am On Apr 11, 2016
[quote author=dulux07 post=44590371]Based on experience, i realise most of these public uni students beeef priv schs. Most times its out of envy, for the fact that your parents are not privileged to send u to one, should not make u bad-mouth them.




Why will a well baked graduate of a public university, (either Federal or State) envy someone from 'advance secondary sch called Private university. Most of them can not impact knowledge about their field, but complain alot. a sch that you will have the privilege of 2-3 years to make your documents available (the likes of o'level, jamb and so on) and you are seen to be a student. i wonder what NUC stand for!
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by teeb09(m): 8:19am On Apr 11, 2016
[quote author=dulux07 post=44590371]Based on experience, i realise most of these public uni students beeef priv schs. Most times its out of envy, for the fact that your parents are not privileged to send u to one, should not make u bad-mouth them.




Why will a well baked graduate of a public university, (either Federal or State) envy someone from 'advance secondary sch called Private university. Most of them can not impact knowledge about their field, but complain alot. a sch that you will have the privilege of 2-3 years to make your documents available (the likes of o'level, jamb and so on) and you are seen to be a student. i wonder what NUC stand for!
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by ReverseEngineer: 8:28am On Apr 11, 2016
hartstein:

I feel your pain the beef game is strong **heheheheheheheh so myopic in reasoning most times I begin to wonder if Nigerians every love the idea of an easy life u must suffer first before u get good education *ogar o well done
You sound like who never went to either a public or private school. Very poorly constructed sentence. God Help you.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by haibe(m): 8:30am On Apr 11, 2016
lufemi:
The first thing to consider about private unis is that there is obviously no federal or state budget allocations; this means they have to generate funds internally. I will just go straight to the point using CU as my case study;

Source for funds; I know that CU generates everything within the school from student fees. I find it absurd that we can even compare them with federal schools. The first point to note is that the overall school student population is about 7000.

1.Generation of power: Most private school have electricity generated through out the night everyday for halls of residence and for CU includes 24 hours at weekends, of course, for this to be sustainable a lot of power has to be generated for the thousands of laptops plugged, the irons and cooking. Also note that for CU, the departments always have light at any time of the day either the PHCN cooperates or not. There are also internet facilities in all the areas of the school.IT enthusiast will agree that this will be an expensive infrastructure to maintain

2.Construction Projects: The new senate building is valued at 353million naira (http://www.dutumgroup.com/project/senate-building-of-covenant-university/), and in the last two years, CU had about 3 major constructions like such

3.Maintenance and Payment of staffs: All the workers have to be paid. CU is swept daily and every part of the school is included and toilets are also washed on daily basis. For any major event in the school, the hole school will be cleaned before 10am the next morning, you can imagine the manpower. You also can imagine the amount that will be paid to these workers including security men and lecturers. Will all these amount fall from the sky?

Hence, to whom much is given, much is expected. With all these things in place with the fact that the lecturers are mandated to teach and you are examined on what is taught as it is done in every normal setting in the world, there is no reason for hardworking students not to be rewarded. Also, the system is transparent and this makes it easy for you to seek for re-appraisal of your grades.

I would just like to say that the corrosion in the public sector should not be something to celebrate. We all deserve fair operation in the institution. The truth remains that either private unis are hated or loved, they are here to stay and they are getting the job done. So there is really no joy in boasting about how hard it is to get a first class in your uni. Every other part of the world rewards diligence. When it comes down to it,out of 200 first class candidates across 25 universities considered for Presidential Special Scholarship Scheme for Innovation and Development, 9 came from CU which is the highest number from a school and they topped a year before also (http://campusportalng.com/cu/covenant-university-graduates-tops-presidential-scholarship-scheme/16550/#ixzz45STeL3bW).

Call it any name you want, these schools are making progress in their short time of being around. I am sure I missed some other vital points , I just felt issues like this should be addressed.

I added some pictures of Covenant University(CU) below



In this same covenant university u are mentioning, they pick our lecturers from public schools. An example is prof omolehinwa from unilag and Dr Mrs ajibolade. covenant university seek the service of this two in the accounting dept. So whats the fuse about insinuating that private unis get better education than public uni?

Like I said in a previous thread, if most people in pvt Universities got admitted into a public uni, they would dump the idea of the pvt uni, except of course they want a good grade by all means, they then result to pvt uni where that is easier. But I still believe private schools are better, whats the point of suffering in a public school and not getting what u deserve, when u could actually go to a private school and get what u deserve.

All in all, the type of school we went to doesn't determine our success, its our passion, skill and believe.!!
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Funminicrown: 8:32am On Apr 11, 2016
hartstein:

I feel your pain the beef game is strong **heheheheheheheh so myopic in reasoning most times I begin to wonder if Nigerians every love the idea of an easy life u must suffer first before u get good education *ogar o well done
What do you know about education? The fact that you were able to buy a first class cert with dough doesn't mean you're intelligent.
Ask the founder of your so called advanced secondary school, he knows better.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nusaf: 8:32am On Apr 11, 2016
ReverseEngineer:
You sound like who never went to either a public or private school. Very poorly constructed sentence. God Help you.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by dulux07(m): 8:33am On Apr 11, 2016
realmindz:

most people that went to private universities attempted federal universities but were rejected...forever proud of to have gone to a federal university, never ever have I had a regret
Some were rejected based on population and too much politics in public schools not academic merits. And those sent away from private sch join the public.
Do ur research well, most well to do parents dont even attempt public schs, they either send them to a private or abroad.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by ReverseEngineer: 8:36am On Apr 11, 2016
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nobody: 8:37am On Apr 11, 2016
qozyme24:
I'm totally disagree with you,that's fallacy I attends public uni as well fed. And we are not up to 50 in my class,and the highest i know z 120 n dats from engineering or so,and lecturers only give u what u deserve in yr exam,n cultist level z grounded here
Most public schools exhibit what you quoted. There's high level of cultism, violence, sadist lecturers, persistent strike and closure of schools
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by gamaliel121(m): 8:38am On Apr 11, 2016
reminiscing:
lets face fact...federal uni is the real world of education, where u struggle and work hard to earn anything including grade and degree.private university train their student and pamper them during exams giving them good grades thereafter to compensate their parents for paying wholesomely and heavily.Most private university first class are not even cherished in the labour market.
That is why some intelligent wealthy people would rather send their kids to federal universities because they understand that the federal university degree make more sense.Why has any first class student not been carried in news like the current federal uno guy that graduated with a 5.0CGPA??


Giving them good grades to compensate their parents? Sister, are you in any private university?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by donifez(m): 8:40am On Apr 11, 2016
Thumbs up to those that criticized Private uni constructively .

When I read some write-up here, I know for sure that some people are so hateful.

I have a friend ,"Delsu graduate"when I entered uni,He was literally jealous always comparing my school standard(a reputable school in Ghana) and Delsu. He even set up a quiz and tried some logical questions which I answered with ease using a different approach to his. Then reality started dawning on him. He started hailing my school.

I do tell him that I don't study round the clock as you. I have lower number of courses per semester. Infact we have our fair share of olodo in my school as your school. But what I know is that I am given a top notch education.

In my school your input determine your output. I have a lot of time in my hand. I don't like attending lecture everyday but I read for a minimum of 2hours per day. I respect my friend he is a graduate of Delsu and well read. He also respects me and have seen that education is not about the terror you pass through in the lecturer hand but it is about the error you can proffer a solution to anywhere you stand.

His younger sister is now in Ghana, Infact he urged her on.

I have met intelligent students from public and private schools and also dull ones.

I will never judge you by your school, I will judge you by the work you do when you are given a tool.

Am out.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by MadCow1: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2016
DrayZee:
Thank you for this write up. I've been seeing people complaining about the fees paid in private universities. Such people don't consider things like this and just post without thinking. And I have noticed that many people hate private universities, for reasons I do not know,some claiming that their standards are too low compared to public institutions.
The truth is private universities are organized and provide a conducive environment for learning. As such, excellent grades from such universities should not be a surprise.


Private Universities are for Children of the Rich who couldn't gain admission on Merit into Public Universities.


Quality wise, Private Universities are not necessarily better than Public Universities except UNIBEN.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2016
Funminicrown:

What do you know about education? The fact that you were able to buy a first class cert with dough doesn't mean you're intelligent.
Ask the founder of your so called advanced secondary school, he knows better.
Like people in public unis don't bribe lecturers in cash or in kind in exchange for good grades.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Nusaf: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2016
dulux07:

Some were rejected based on population and too much politics in public schools not academic merits. And those sent away from private sch join the public.
Do ur research well, most well to do parents dont even attempt public schs, they either send them to a private or abroad.
And u think those who are able to make it despite those challenges are not better. Let me tell u, the proprietors of those pri schools are businessmen. Check out the cut-off of these priv univ compared with public universities.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Pasca07: 8:41am On Apr 11, 2016
Funminicrown:

What do you know about education? The fact that you were able to buy a first class cert with dough doesn't mean you're intelligent.
Ask the founder of your so called advanced secondary school, he knows better.
from your comments I observed a sign of frustration... is it his fault that u finished with third class or pass from a federal university? is it his fault that your parents can't afford conducive learning environment for u to study?
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by MadCow1: 8:42am On Apr 11, 2016
donifez:
Thumbs up to those that criticized Private uni constructively .

When I read some write-up here, I know for sure that some people are so hateful.

I have a friend "Delsu graduate"when I entered uni,He was literally jealous always comparing my school standard(I school in Ghana) and Delsu. He even set up a quiz and tried some logical questions which I answered with ease using a different approach to his. Then reality started dawning on him. He started hailing my school.

I do tell him that I don't study round the clock as you. I have lower number of courses per semester. Infact we have our fair share of olodo in my school as your school. But what I know is that I am given a top notch education.

In my school your input determine your output. I have a lot of time in my hand. I don't like attending lecture everyday but I read for a minimum of 2hours per day. I respect my friend he is a graduate of Delsu and well read. He also respects me and have seen that education is not about the terror you pass through in the lecturer hand but it is about the error you can proffer a solution to anywhere you stand.

His younger sister is now in Ghana, Infact he urged her on.

I have met intelligent students from public and private schools and also dull ones.

I will never judge you by your school, I will judge you by the work you do when you are given a tool.

Am out.


What University in Ghana did you attend?

Because though there are over 50 Univeristies in Ghana now, only 3-4 are actually qualified to be called a University.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 8:46am On Apr 11, 2016
haibe:


In this same covenant university u are mentioning, they pick our lecturers from public schools. An example is prof omolehinwa from unilag and Dr Mrs ajibolade. covenant university seek the service of this two in the accounting dept. So whats the fuse about insinuating that private unis get better education than public uni?

Like I said in a previous thread, if most people in pvt Universities got admitted into a public uni, they would dump the idea of the pvt uni, except of course they want a good grade by all means, they then result to pvt uni where that is easier
And the same Covenant university picked Prof Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate from Harvard university to teach as a visiting lecturer in the economics department. We can go on and on.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by LordIsaac(m): 8:47am On Apr 11, 2016
Oh, the lack of simple logic in the OP's submission is typical of a Private Uni's students' reasoning. When he's matured enough to match our reasoning as public uni students, we'll talk. Don't waste daddy's money buying data to spew thrash!

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Sibrah: 8:47am On Apr 11, 2016
Funminicrown:
And so?
Does that justify why 400+ students will graduate with a first class out of 1000 graduands?
Private universities are the remote cause of our fall in educational standard.
I stand to be corrected!
Where did 400 grad with first class out of 1000? These are the people OP sought to educate by opening this thread.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by ReverseEngineer: 8:49am On Apr 11, 2016
dulux07:

Some were rejected based on population and too much politics in public schools not academic merits. And those sent away from private sch join the public.
Do ur research well, most well to do parents dont even attempt public schs, they either send them to a private or abroad.
Lies from the bottom of a blast furnace. Such an ill informed statement. "Well to do parents", I mean "Well to do parents" who are very keen about a good standard of Education for their wards send their kids abroad. Private universities aren't an Option. The argument isn't even about Whether or not Public Universities are better, that's crystal clear. It shouldn't call for a debate. Private schools are far behind in terms of academic standard. The bone of contention is simply, "The amount private universities pay is unparalleled to what they're given back". At least, we know the result of privately owned schools abroad. We see how they're high flying. That's when you are free to say, "They're getting what they paid for". Until then, keep paying high and enjoying the rotten educational system of Nigeria. That's a bit weird to me.

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by dulux07(m): 8:52am On Apr 11, 2016
maputohq:

based on experience, public uni rejects take private uni as consolation.
why would i bad-mouth one who is "priviledged" out of envy for being a priv uni undergraduate when i'm also priviledge to get same on merit in a public uni where most politicians run their second, third, fourth and even fifth degree.
our anger is "we suffer more" and so let them take their "first class" off our faces.
Most students admitted into public uni are admitted based on politics not academic merit, the public uni sys of nowadays is nearly dead compared to d 90s, we all know this, only if we want to deceive ourselves. If a private sch student was that interested in going to a public sch, his 1yr sch fee in private uni, will buy his way into a public uni if he so desires.
Why do u tink u ve alot of young students in private uni, because most of them did not bother attempting universities living on past glories. They r no public reject.
Its the govt fault u suffer more not theirs.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Sibrah: 8:53am On Apr 11, 2016
LordIsaac:
Oh, the lack of simple logic in the OP's submission is typical of a Private Uni's students' reasoning. When he's matured enough to match our reasoning as public uni students, we'll talk. Don't waste daddy's money buying data to spew trash!
Stop being mean. The OP pointed the things that are responsible for the relatively higher fees paid in private schools. Your are the one saying thrash with no arguments here.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by haibe(m): 8:59am On Apr 11, 2016
Draxler:

And the same Covenant university picked Prof Eric Maskin, a Nobel laureate from Harvard university to teach as a visiting lecturer in the economics department. We can go on and on.

Thats a good thing. Private schools I believe impact more knowledge using their lecturers. However public school students tend to go extra mile to learn and practice things since they do not really get much from their lecturers and have to practice and learn by themselves because they must pass anyway. In the end, this builds a sense of personal development in these students and help them struggle to improve in different areas.

However, if I have a kid, I will not take them to a federal university (except in well developed countries). I would rather take them to a private university for reasons best known to me.
Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by LordIsaac(m): 9:00am On Apr 11, 2016
Sibrah:
Stop being mean. The OP pointed the things that are responsible for the relatively higher fees paid in private schools. Your are the one saying thrash with no arguments here.
Children, grow up for once!

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Re: Reason For High Fees And Turnout Of First Class Graduates In Private Unis. by Draxler: 9:00am On Apr 11, 2016
ReverseEngineer:
Lies from the bottom of a blast furnace. Such an ill informed statement. "Well to do parents", I mean "Well to do parents" who are very keen about a good standard of Education for their wards send their kids abroad. Private universities aren't an Option. The argument isn't even about Whether or not Public Universities are better, that's crystal clear. It shouldn't call for a debate. Private schools are far behind in terms of academic standard. The bone of contention is simply, "The amount private universities pay is unparalleled to what they're given back". At least, we know the result of privately owned schools abroad. We see how they're high flying. That's when you are free to say, "They're getting what they paid for". Until then, keep paying high and enjoying the rotten educational system of Nigeria. That's a bit weird to me.
The private schools abroad are extremely old. Harvard university was founded in 1636. How old are our private universities? So you are trying to say that ALL well do parents send their kids abroad instead of private universities? I mean ALL o.

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