Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,151,580 members, 7,812,897 topics. Date: Monday, 29 April 2024 at 09:32 PM

All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! - Sports (215) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! (697006 Views)

Nigeria's U-23 Team Land In Lagos Following AFCON Victory (Photos) / Samson Siasia Flaunts The U-23 Trophy And His Medal (Photo) / All The News About The Golden Eaglets (U-17) HERE! (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) ... (212) (213) (214) (215) (216) (217) (218) ... (341) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:02pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:



How you think using nigeria s most capped player ever to compare another player is fair comparism beats my imagination is yobo a true picture of how nigerian youths transcend from U20 to senior team, bros I weak for you
Ronaldinho will have kept the Nigerian shirt for as long as he wanted.
Pls I am saying age cheats are ruining our football, if you don't agree argue, if you agree and your saying its not how people paint it I don't think there s any need for any discussion.


I thought you said our top talents are thirty at a young age. So was Yobo thirty in Nigeria '99 World Youth Championship.

Look at your statement. Age cheats are running our football. Are you their fathers? Or you were the doctor that gave birth to them.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 2:16pm On Apr 13, 2016
terzurum5:

A very big one for that matter.

He indirectly wants to say that Querétaro and Fluminense's strike forces are stronger than Bolton or Hull Chaiiiii


I can't remember saying anything about fluminese and Queretaro, I was talking about ronaldo De Lima
Joe where do you get your defenders from ?
The strength of a club doesn't determine if a player can play in another club, its the players quality that determines Delli Alli was in Mk dons and he is a starter in Tottenham doesn't mean Mk dons mildfield is better or not better than Tottenham's own
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 2:20pm On Apr 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


When Okocha was at Bolton and Hull, was he second choice.

Please it is a lie if you think Ronaldo would have been first choice at Hull until now.


I can't rememba saying Okocha was second choice anywhere
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 2:40pm On Apr 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:



I thought you said our top talents are thirty at a young age. So was Yobo thirty in Nigeria '99 World Youth Championship.

Look at your statement. Age cheats are running our football. Are you their fathers? Or you were the doctor that gave birth to them.

Ruining

Running is between pinnick and Giwa
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by forgiveness: 3:05pm On Apr 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


We do have a meaningless competitive match which we could use to cap those guys.


grin Na really meaningless competitive match. grin
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by terzurum5(m): 3:05pm On Apr 13, 2016
[b][size=14pt]
U-23 STAR CONFIRMS MACCABI HAIFA TRANSFER
[/size]

According to Akwa United and Nigeria U-23 forward, Ubong Ekpai he will join Israeli side Maccabi Haifa in the summer.


Ekpai will travel to Israel later in the week to finalise the deal that will see him leave Akwa United before the end of the Nigeria Professional Football League season.


Scorer of Nigeria’s lone goal in a 1-0 win over Brazil U-23 in an international friendly he was also a part of the team that won the Africa U-23 championship in Senegal.


Ekpai joined Akwa United this season after two seasons with three times Nigeria Champions Kano Pillars where he was unfortunately involved in the robbery accident the team suffered before the start of last season Nigeria Professional Football League.

He is represented by Argentine agent Marcelo Houseman who recently signed 15 Nigeria players to his player management agency last month.
http://owngoalnigeria.com/2016/04/13/u-23-star-confirms-maccabi-haifa-transfer/
[/b]

1 Like

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:14pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


Ruining

Running is between pinnick and Giwa

Who told you that our football is going down? So when we won the AFCON, the Age Cheats you claimed Ruined the team.

I will say it again, it is not as people claim. If Kayode was thirty in 2007, so he is 39 now playing in Europe.

It is not as you guys put it. If not the problems with the NFF and National team, we were doing fine and growing.

Even now, our local League is growing and European clubs are hinting for talents here.

It is not as you make it.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:17pm On Apr 13, 2016
I say it, it is Nigerians that carried this age cheat talk to Ghana that our success in the U17 is because of overaged players.

Now that the MRI screening goes on before the tournament, how come we still do well
.

1 Like

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 3:28pm On Apr 13, 2016
enomakos:
he did't look like agali at all,agali was a goalpoacher but not this guy
look at peter and caroll for instead
who force this guy to play football
he will do better as a basketballer

See what I meant:

The 1st and 3rd pix are Onuachu
The 2nd and 4th pix are Agali

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by enomakos(m): 3:39pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:

See what I meant:
The 1st and 3rd pix are Onuachu The 2nd and 4th pix are Agali
hahaha you are right are they related?
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 3:49pm On Apr 13, 2016
enomakos:
hahaha you are right
are they related?

I don't think so.

I have not seen any pix of Victor Agali pix for over 10 years but immediately I saw Paul Onuachu it just struck me that this guy looks like Agali.


See the shape of their fore heads in the first and second pix grin
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 3:56pm On Apr 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:



I thought you said our top talents are thirty at a young age. So was Yobo thirty in Nigeria '99 World Youth Championship.

Look at your statement. Age cheats are running our football. Are you their fathers? Or you were the doctor that gave birth to them.

I should just ignore you when you misquote me

2 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 3:58pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:



Lolz see Voltron

Honestly I am tired of trying to paint an obvious picture to you guys, Nigeria defeated Belgium in the Semi final of 2008 Olympics go thru that team list and go thru d Belgians team list and ask yourself where your players that were by far superior are now.
We lost to Argentina narrowly in the final go thru their team list.
Where is the continuity in our football.
Nigeria has good players no doubt but their quality is exaggerated in age grade competitions because of one obvious reason.
I don't derive any joy in saying this things,
I am a true fan I weep for the state of Nigeria's football
We need to start puting systems in place that identify quality 10 yr olds, and groom them,
They have been efforts I know but we need to do more.
I have interned for a day in a popular academy where a 16 yr old who is not very tall was training with his mates and was told to go and join the U 10s because he was d same height with most of them.I tried opposing and was shut down
Our football needs reorientation
I won't be a patriot to the point of self deceit.
Just take a look at the wrinkles on your Uncles face and some of the U23 players especially the home based you will see close similarities.

You are obviously living in the past.

Look at Kelechi Iheanacho, Isaac Promise Success, Moses Simon, Stanley Amuzie, Wilfred Ndidi, Ifeanyi Mathew, Akinjide Idowu, Chdera Ezeh Victor Osimhen, Kelechi Nwakali and tell me they are 30years old.

I cannot vouch for our U17 players before 2011. But since MRI was introduced in 2011, we have been producing players that are U17 or close to that.

modified

1 Like

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 4:07pm On Apr 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


Who told you that our football is going down? So when we won the AFCON, the Age Cheats you claimed Ruined the team.

I will say it again, it is not as people claim. If Kayode was thirty in 2007, so he is 39 now playing in Europe.

It is not as you guys put it. If not the problems with the NFF and National team, we were doing fine and growing.

Even now, our local League is growing and European clubs are hinting for talents here.

It is not as you make it.

I never said all players that turn up for U 20 are 30 yrs ,You are purposely missing the point even a yr makes you an age cheat, 24 yr olds 25 yr olds in U20 are cheats you don't have to be 30 before you are a cheat and they are honest ones,and they are those that are more than 35 self but I believe about 50% or more are not honest with their age MRI has an age span of 5 yrs or more so 21 yr olds or older can fit in to an U 17 team, There has been a conscious effort to reduce it in Nigerian youth set up I can see that, kudos to the relevant authorities but its still there, Some players fail MRI scan for U17 and play for U20 in 2 yrs time, I don't know why it happens thus maybe you know kindly enlighten me.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:07pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:



Lolz see Voltron

Honestly I am tired of trying to paint an obvious picture to you guys, Nigeria defeated Belgium in the Semi final of 2008 Olympics go thru that team list and go thru d Belgians team list and ask yourself where your players that were by far superior are now.
We lost to Argentina narrowly in the final go thru their team list.
Where is the continuity in our football.
Nigeria has good players no doubt but their quality is exaggerated in age grade competitions because of one obvious reason.
I don't derive any joy in saying this things,
I am a true fan I weep for the state of Nigeria's football
We need to start puting systems in place that identify quality 10 yr olds, and groom them,
They have been efforts I know but we need to do more.
I have interned for a day in a popular academy where a 16 yr old who is not very tall was training with his mates and was told to go and join the U 10s because he was d same height with most of them.I tried opposing and was shut down
Our football needs reorientation
I won't be a patriot to the point of self deceit.
Just take a look at the wrinkles on your Uncles face and some of the U23 players especially the home based you will see close similarities.

Please tell me these are faces of your uncle's age mates.

4 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 4:10pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


You are obviously living in the past.

Look at Kelechi Iheanacho, Isaac Promise, Moses Simon, Stanley Amuzie, Wilfred Ndidi, Ifeanyi Mathew, Akinjide Idowu, Chdera Ezeh Victor Osimhen, Kelechi Nwakali and tell me they are 30years old.

I cannot vouch for our U17 players before 2011. But since MRI was introduced in 2011, we have been producing players that are U17 or close to that.

You mention Isaac promise and say I am living in the past. Isaac Success.
I haven't said anything on the U17 s
It has been about the Olympic team and more recently the U 20 s
And in one of my posts I clearly stated that I tip Nigeria to win the Olympics but it might not be because of Iwobi iheanacho and Osimhen but because of other experienced hands other than the 3 legal ones added to the team.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:18pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


I never said all players that turn up for U 20 are 30 yrs ,You are purposely missing the point even a yr makes you an age cheat, 24 yr olds 25 yr olds in U20 are cheats you don't have to be 30 before you are a cheat and they are honest ones,and they are those that are more than 35 self but I believe about 50% or more are not honest with their age MRI has an age span of 5 yrs or more so 21 yr olds or older can fit in to an U 17 team, There has been a conscious effort to reduce it in Nigerian youth set up I can see that, kudos to the relevant authorities but its still there, Some players fail MRI scan for U17 and play for U20 in 2 yrs time, I don't know why it happens thus maybe you know kindly enlighten me.

I can see you are gradually shifting grounds.

This info may help you shift more grounds:

MRI offers an alternative as a non‐invasive method of examination. The grading system presented clearly identifies different degrees of epiphysial fusion of the distal radius. Inter‐rater and intrarater reliabilities are high and the learning curve steep because of clear and simple criteria, even for a non‐radiologist. Complete fusion occurs at the age of 17–18 years in the ethnic groups examined, with faster maturation among Argentinian and Malaysian boys in comparison with Algerian and Swiss. The mean age of participants with complete fusion of the radius was 18.3 years (SD 0.9) indicating that complete fusion is very unlikely to occur at 17 years of age. In our population only one boy out of 130 aged 16 (0.8%) presented complete fusion. Most boys in the age group between 16 and 17 years presented as grade II . The current data justify extension of the examined population to other ethnic groups such as sub‐Saharans, East Asians and Central Americans. As the presented study did not register weight and height, we recommend including anthropometrical data including body mass index to analyse the possible influence on the speed of maturation.

In conclusion, MRI offers an alternative as a non‐invasive method of examination of epiphysial fusion. The grading system can accurately identify the variable degrees of epiphysial fusion in an objective teachable manner.

source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2465138/

1 Like

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:20pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


You mention Isaac promise and say I am living in the past. Isaac Success

Original Post corrected as Isaac Success.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:24pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


I never said all players that turn up for U 20 are 30 yrs ,You are purposely missing the point even a yr makes you an age cheat, 24 yr olds 25 yr olds in U20 are cheats you don't have to be 30 before you are a cheat and they are honest ones,and they are those that are more than 35 self but I believe about 50% or more are not honest with their age MRI has an age span of 5 yrs or more so 21 yr olds or older can fit in to an U 17 team, There has been a conscious effort to reduce it in Nigerian youth set up I can see that, kudos to the relevant authorities but its still there, Some players fail MRI scan for U17 and play for U20 in 2 yrs time, I don't know why it happens thus maybe you know kindly enlighten me.

Your belief does not make it fact. It could be fifty percent or more are not honest. It could be ten percent or less. You are not in place to spread those figures as if they are facts. They are guesses in the figment of your imagination.

That is what they are guesses.

When you see a player and you see him wrinkled. It could he that he is fifty-five years old or he could be 17 years old and he looks that way due to the hard life he faced growing up.

The new pictures coming out of Osimhen looks fresh, young and relaxed. Totally different from the rough looking kid fighting to make a name in the U17.

The MRI was not made because of us. Other Nations had age cheats. So do not tag and label the players of a Nation what you are not sure of. You used the thirty range. It is not true.

4 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Petrobros: 4:25pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


Please tell me these are faces of your uncle's age mates.

Maybe binhozie is still a babby. grin

Emm.. oga binhozie, no be child's play we dey here o. If you have any claim make sure you have your facts ready. Else u no fit sell any arguments here.

We have seasoned analysts here who can take you up on any issues without blinking. grin

4 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by forgiveness: 4:27pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


I never said all players that turn up for U 20 are 30 yrs ,You are purposely missing the point even a yr makes you an age cheat, 24 yr olds 25 yr olds in U20 are cheats you don't have to be 30 before you are a cheat and they are honest ones,and they are those that are more than 35 self but I believe about 50% or more are not honest with their age MRI has an age span of 5 yrs or more so 21 yr olds or older can fit in to an U 17 team, There has been a conscious effort to reduce it in Nigerian youth set up I can see that, kudos to the relevant authorities but its still there, Some players fail MRI scan for U17 and play for U20 in 2 yrs time, I don't know why it happens thus maybe you know kindly enlighten me.


Bros, 100% of Nigerian are not honest with their age. Especially the ones that have played in the NPFL.

The ones with their true age are those who went through MRI. No bi new thing na.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 4:31pm On Apr 13, 2016
forgiveness:



Bros, 100% of Nigerian are not honest with their age. Especially the ones that have played in the NPFL.

The ones with their true age are those who went through MRI. No bi new thing na.

The Guy is playing an old record.
We have gone pass arguments like that.

1 Like

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 4:42pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


The Guy is playing an old record.
We have gone pass arguments like that.

Gone past meaning you have solved it or accepted it as a norm.
Or its not worth talking about any more, don't get.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by binhozie(m): 4:44pm On Apr 13, 2016
Petrobros:


Maybe binhozie is still a babby. grin

Emm.. oga binhozie, no be child's play we dey here o. If you have any claim make sure you have your facts ready. Else u no fit sell any arguments here.

We have seasoned analysts here who can take you up on any issues without blinking. grin

But funny how I seem to be single handedly handling all of them
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:45pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


The Guy is playing an old record.
We have gone pass arguments like that.

Allow him. That was the guy who was the registrar of every young child born with the footballing ability to play for the NFL.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:59pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


But funny how I seem to be single handedly handling all of them

This is not about handling but saying what you are sure of. You do not wake up one morning and say fifty percent are not honest.

It is a lie. That figure is a guess and you do not know.

I am happy for the MRI. Now, they can not use age cheats as their excuse.

2 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:04pm On Apr 13, 2016
binhozie:


Gone passed meaning you have solved it or accepted it as a norm.
Or its not worth talking about any more, don't get.

Does that statement sound logical to you? Seriously. 100 percent.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by forgiveness: 6:50pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


The Guy is playing an old record.
We have gone pass arguments like that.

Probably! But we can't say some boys no dey cheat ooo apart from those who went through the MRI test.
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:52pm On Apr 13, 2016
Why do we do this?
Why?
Why do we come online and share articles, comments, news about out talents making something for themselves home and abroad?

Is it because we are perfect?
No. We are far from it. The FIFA ranking says it. Everyone can see it.

Is it because we are proud?
No. We are not going to the AFCON and we did not go there last time. How can we be proud.

We do this because out there, little to no one cares about the struggle that goes on down here. No one cares that the Government hands Billions of naira to the NFF and we have little to show.

None to few of those folks care if there are corrupt people in the powers of our football holding us back with bad decisions.

Do the Foreigners think we are perfect? No.

We do this because it takes us to see the light in the dark tunnel. It takes us to tell the World that Blessing Eleke was proud that he saved his team from losing a game. That he is not a black idiot but a young man who is making a name for himself despite the obstacles he faced growing up.

It takes people like us to tell the Foreigners that, "No. We are not all age cheats. There are a lot of young Nigerians who move from secondary schools to clubs.

The likes of John Mikel Obi who Plateau United fans called a small secondary school boy.

If we do not know, who will? Dailymail? Telegraph?

It is us, you and I on this thread, Nigerians who should know.

If Osimhen did not go through the MRI, many will jump up and down and say he is overage. He does not look smooth.

No one says there are no age cheats in Nigeria. Saying all our top young talents are age cheats or all players in the NPFL are age cheats defeat what we do here.

We are here to show that despite people see us as darkness, the sun still shines here.

7 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by enomakos(m): 11:32pm On Apr 13, 2016
Icon4s:


I don't think so.

I have not seen any pix of Victor Agali pix for over 10 years but immediately I saw Paul Onuachu it just struck me that this guy looks like Agali.


See the shape of their fore heads in the first and second pix grin
hahaha
my brothers for the east always have that shape of head

2 Likes

Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 5:38am On Apr 14, 2016
enomakos:
hahaha
my brothers for the east always have that shape of head
grin
Re: All The News About The Olympic Eagles (U-23) HERE! by Icon4s(m): 6:01am On Apr 14, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Why do we do this?
Why?
Why do we come online and share articles, comments, news about out talents making something for themselves home and abroad?

Is it because we are perfect?
No. We are far from it. The FIFA ranking says it. Everyone can see it.

Is it because we are proud?
No. We are not going to the AFCON and we did not go there last time. How can we be proud.

We do this because out there, little to no one cares about the struggle that goes on down here. No one cares that the Government hands Billions of naira to the NFF and we have little to show.

None to few of those folks care if there are corrupt people in the powers of our football holding us back with bad decisions.

Do the Foreigners think we are perfect? No.

We do this because it takes us to see the light in the dark tunnel. It takes us to tell the World that Blessing Eleke was proud that he saved his team from losing a game. That he is not a black idiot but a young man who is making a name for himself despite the obstacles he faced growing up.

It takes people like us to tell the Foreigners that, "No. We are not all age cheats. There are a lot of young Nigerians who move from secondary schools to clubs.

The likes of John Mikel Obi who Plateau United fans called a small secondary school boy.

If we do not know, who will? Dailymail? Telegraph?

It is us, you and I on this thread, Nigerians who should know.

If Osimhen did not go through the MRI, many will jump up and down and say he is overage. He does not look smooth.

No one says there are no age cheats in Nigeria. Saying all our top young talents are age cheats or all players in the NPFL are age cheats defeat what we do here.

We are here to show that despite people see us as darkness, the sun still shines here.

Good write up my brother.

I hate it when peeps come here to tag our players age cheats.

I know many old players that did nt cheat with their age.

One of them is Emmanuel Amuneke. He was born in 1970. He finished Class Five(so it was called then) in 1989. That means he was 19 then. (We dey old for school those days).He shortly after signed a professional contract with Julius Berger FC. He broke into d national team at d 1991 All African games (U23) as a 21years old. Shortly after he signed for Egyptian giant-Zamalek. And d rest is history.
He was one of d over-aged players at d 1996 Olympics. He used his real age. He did nt look older than the Likes of Amokachi, Okocha, Ikpeba and Oliseh hu were still U23 then.

I know most professional African players age-cheat bt it is nt 100%. It baffles me that even with the introduction of the MRI some people still believe our last 2 Golden Eaglets class were over aged.

Taiwo Awoniyi that even wrote WAEC after he participated in the 2013 FIFA U17.

A guy dat knows John Lazarus in Abuja said he wrote WAEC a year before he featured at d U17 WC yet people were saying Lazarus doesn't look 17.

I know how people doubted d ages of the 2013 Eaglets until a pix they took 2 years earlier as U15 surfaced. And the difference in terms of physique was so clear. They looked 15 in 2011 & then looked 30 in 2013?

Age cheats was well pronounced in d past bt we have a new generation of talents of which most are truely their real ages and lets run with that.
And i expect more from dem cos they are yet to hit their peaks.

1 Like

(1) (2) (3) ... (212) (213) (214) (215) (216) (217) (218) ... (341) (Reply)

Nigeria Female National Teams' Thread / The NBA Begins / "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 86
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.