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Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by goingape: 1:27am On Apr 18, 2016 |
promise101:I told you before! I'm not a guy who keep ARUGING on stuff like this. Think whatever you want. Afterall you are a human. Thank you |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by promise101: 1:37am On Apr 18, 2016 |
goingape:Sorry bro, It is not my fault, but you better stay away from something you don't know, only to screw your self out. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by goingape: 1:41am On Apr 18, 2016 |
promise101:you sound like a woman. Have a nice day. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 6:47am On Apr 18, 2016 |
promise101: There is absolutely nothing to answer and I will tell you why. I asked the op, after reading his piece on sexual imorality, if one should keep repeating the cycle of sinning and repenting. Sinning in this context being sexual sins, cos that was the subject on considering. Out of no where, u came in, branded me a false teacher, holier than thou, self righteous, and a hypocrite. Huh? For what cause? For simply asking the op if one should keep repeating the cycle of commiting sexual sins and repenting. You went on to foolishly ask if I am perfectly sinless. and I find that ridiculous because from all my posts on this thread so far, I never made mention of one being perfectly sinless to be declared righteous by God. I only asked the op if one should go on repeating the cycling of sinning sexually and repenting. ( at this point I should add a few details which probably u could not comprehend: sexually sins committed by a born again christians are always almost intentional. 1 He knows what God says about it. 2. He knows what he should do to avoid it. Perhaps because of fleshly weakness he falls into sin. He feels remorse, and makes amend by asking forgiveness and striving not to repeat his sins.) I deliberately decided to show you in practical terms what it means to sin on purpose and ask for forgiveness. The point which you finally got, but still go on to ask irrelevant questions which has nothing to do with the either the subject matter or the question I asked the OP. Ah! I give up. Maybe u quoted the wrong person. Even at that, by now you should have known. But you still insist on asking irrelevant questions. For what purpose? Maybe to argue, or maybe just crass foolishness or inability to comprehend, I don't know. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by captianfreeman(m): 7:43am On Apr 18, 2016 |
promise101: No wonder we have all manner of evil , going on in the body of christ. All because of false teaching. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men ,after the rudiments of the world, and not after christ. Col 2:8 |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Nobody: 8:26am On Apr 18, 2016 |
Sirmee:wow! Excellent! .. As for me I came in contact with his ministry through my elder sister,she was always watching him when she came around, so I got interested because he wasn't religious, he was simple nd sounded true. I had just finished my secondary sch, so I wasn't really spiritually inclined so to speak, I was some young boy with an empty field waiting for seeds to be planted on field(mind). I thank God that the right seed was sown. If not, hmmm. The ideas I had then were inspired by the conventional way of living. This was four years ago nd I Still watch him and read his books until now! 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 8:32am On Apr 18, 2016 |
VictorRomanov: lemme get yu correctly Yu r now above sin/sinning Yu no longer sin right? yu r now perfect? |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 8:42am On Apr 18, 2016 |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 8:44am On Apr 18, 2016 |
moski5: It doesn't make you perfect. It enables you to avoid sinning intentionally, even if the urge to do so is very strong! For example. I know a chronic womanizer but who is now celibate for 2yrs and counting. He is not perfect cause through conversation u notice that lust in him coupled with some words he says sometimes. But he makes a constant effort to avoid going back to what he has left. Considering his background, u'll know its not by his strength he is able to do so. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 8:53am On Apr 18, 2016 |
VictorRomanov: yu didn't answer my question my question came from your response to smtin I said, do answer thanks |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 9:00am On Apr 18, 2016 |
obixcel: I wanted to make a point Sin is sin ... its done intentionally it may b dt d flesh is weak, one is not prayerful nonetheless Sin is done intentionally |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 9:02am On Apr 18, 2016 |
moski5: VictorRomanov: moski5: I believe I answered your question perfectly. Since you couldn't figure it out, lemme make it bold for you |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 9:08am On Apr 18, 2016 |
VictorRomanov: we got here from wat I said earlier THE CIRCLE CONTINUES I don't know if its yu I responded to nonetheless I'll repeat it here THERE'S NO ACCIDENTAL SIN ALL SINS ARE VERY INTENTIONAL ITS GRACE THAT KEEPS US RIGHTEOUS ELSE we are sinners yu sin daily All mankind sin daily |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 9:14am On Apr 18, 2016 |
moski5: Agree with the fact that we sin everyday. However the bible gives example people who sin, without knowing that what they did is wrong, until when they were corrected. One of such is the case in Jonah 4:11. Please do read and tell me what u understand! |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 9:26am On Apr 18, 2016 |
VictorRomanov: Nineveh is a city filled with unbelievers this discuss is between believers else I wouldn't ve said anything |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 9:32am On Apr 18, 2016 |
moski5: The principle applies. They were humans same as believers are. That you re a believer doesn't make you any more or less. Now the difference is that a believer have the knowledge of what God requires of him unlike the ninevites. However, there are situations were a believe does something bad before he is even aware of it. Read Galatians 6:1 |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by ozimec(m): 10:18am On Apr 18, 2016 |
DivineSpp: . Be confident that God has completely forgiven all your sins (past, present and future sins). So one should go on and keep sinning right? This must be coming from the pits of hell. Brother repent and sin no more. Proverb 28:13 says " He that covereth his sins shall not prosper but, whosoever confesses and forsake them shall obtain mercy" Also the in Hebrews 10:26 It says "If we sin deliberately after we have received the knowledge of the truth. There remaineth no more sacrifice for sin. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by DivineSpp(m): 11:15am On Apr 18, 2016 |
Hello guys, I'm so sorry that I couldn't respond to all the questions asked on the topic. It's due to my busy schedule. Kindly check out below my previous post on the step-by-step process of living above sexual sins in the life of a Christian. https://www.nairaland.com/3000168/step-by-step-process-living-above-sexual I believe it will provide answers to some of the questions. Thank you. Have a fruitful day |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 1:13pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
VictorRomanov: Brothers, if a person is caught doing something wrong, those of you who are spiritual should restore that person gently. Watch out for yourself so that you are not tempted as well. isv EasyEnglish My friends, if anyone among you cannot stop doing a certain wrong thing, you must tell him to stop. Those people in your group who understand things by God’s Spirit should tell him to stop. You should tell him what is the right thing to do. But you must be careful to be kind when you tell him. Remember that you yourself might not always be able to stop yourself doing something wrong. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by YomaA(m): 2:05pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
Alani86: Am not promoting any church,just that his words sounded so much like teachings from BLW..dahs all |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by VictorRomanov: 3:31pm On Apr 18, 2016 |
moski5: Brothers, even if a man takes a false step before he is aware of it, you who have spiritual qualifications try to readjust such a man in a spirit of mildness. But keep an eye on yourself, for fear you too may be tempted. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Amberon11: 8:48am On Apr 19, 2016 |
stop putting words into his mouth. he never said he was righteous. All unrighteousness is sin and all sinners shall have their place in the lake that burns with everlasting fire. this grace message is perverted. even if everyone sins doesn't make it right. Remember it is written that we should flee sexual sins because all other sins we commit are outside the body, but when we commit sexua sins, we are defiling God's temple which is our bodies. moski5: |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by DivineSpp(m): 9:36am On Apr 19, 2016 |
Amberon11: @Amberon11, A point to note, You're right that all sinners shall have their place in the lake that burns with everlasting fire but it is not referring to believers in Christ who commits sin (by allowing their flesh to to dictate the way to act over their renewed spirit). It refers to unbelievers (sinners by nature) because they have refused to make Jesus Christ their Lord and Saviour. As long as you've surrendered your life to Jesus Christ, you are righteous by nature. This is not based on your performance or obedience but on the perfect obedience of Jesus Christ (Romans 5:19, 2 Corinthians 5:21 and Isaiah 54:17b). When you believe you've been made righteous by Christ obedience, the Holy Spirit in you will help you to live righteously and people will testify that you are a true follower of Jesus Christ. You might make mistakes sometimes but God will restore you into His fellowship when you come to him. Also, when you believe who you are in Christ and what He has provided for you through His finished works at the cross, you will be empowered to flee sexual sins. You can't achieve that by just discipline yourself but through the empowerment of the Spirit that comes by believing the right good news of Christ. When you believe right, you will live right. You're blessed! Have a productive day |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 7:19am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Amberon11: you're condemning a message you don't understand hmmmm Anyways I hope b4 yu replied you followed read and understood My point, I said its goes on and on paraphrasing now that all men sin n 'forgiveness is required daily, don't remember his exact reply Though it prompted me to Ask if he has Attained perfection I repeat No man is Perfect, There's no man Alive on earth Without sin/sinning Its HIS MERCY N GRACE that keeps us Righteous (not works) |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Amberon11: 8:42am On Apr 21, 2016 |
It is written 1 John 3: 8 He who sins is of the devil , for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested , that He might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin , for His seed remains in him; and He cannot sin , because He has been born of God. No matter how long a lie is told, the truth will prevail someday. Your perverted grace message is what is leading many to hell today. Take heed of the bolded. moski5: |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Amberon11: 8:50am On Apr 21, 2016 |
You are wrong on all levels. Note this, Right believing will not bring about deliverance and the empowerment of the holy spirit to flee sexual sins. So what brings about the empowerment to flee sexual sins? The word of God!! Yes, meditating on the word with all your heart, day in day out and addressing your situation with his word will release the power of the Holy Spirit and help you overcome sin. DivineSpp: |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Amberon11: 8:54am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Don't mind that poster, he's fund of calling people all sorts of names whenever they don't have conflicting views. Joseph Prince has fed him with all manner of doctrines. VictorRomanov: |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by DivineSpp(m): 10:39am On Apr 21, 2016 |
Amberon11: @Amberon11, it seems you are yet to understand how to believe right. The step-by-step process on how to believe right can be found in Joshua 1:8: This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. You can achieve right believing by repeatedly confessing and meditating on God's word until it produce a revelation of its reality in your spirit. This will help you to act it out (that's the empowerment). Then, you will burst into prosperity over sins (including sexual sins), sickness, poverty, addiction, depression, the list goes on and on. Can you see we meant the same thing, it's just your understanding of how to believe right that is the problem. That's why all my posts have been supported with God's word for readers to meditate on. @Amberon11, embrace the good news about God's unmerited favour today, and you will live as kings over all negativities of life (Romans 5:17, AMP) You're highly favoured |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Maser: 11:00am On Apr 21, 2016 |
promise101: You're severely ignorant of what you are talking about. God can never befriend sin. No one preached grace in the Bible like the Apostle Paul, but what he says in Galatians 5:19-21, "Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness... Those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God". You may want to check Ephesians 5 also for further enlightenment, "But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you... " You should have asked Paul if he was sinless when he made those comments. God cannot reduce his standards to accommodate your sexual escapades and fantasies. Finally: If you want to follow Christ, follow him but if you still want sin, then the consequences are clear in Revelation "Lake of fire". Please deal with your lust issues before they destroy you. The OP wants us to freely commit sin and do as if nothing happened. In order words, throw up scriptures to suppress Holy Spirit's convictions which pricks your conscience, a satanic recipe for disaster if you ask me. |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by DivineSpp(m): 12:42pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Maser: @Maser, Let me clarify few things in your comment. You quoted Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh [/b]are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, [b]fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. If you read further to verse 24, And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. You can see from the above scripture that Verse 19-21 was not addressing true Christians but unbelievers because true Christians have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. How are they crucifying the flesh? By believing and living by the word of God that addresses any work of the flesh in their lives. Your statement that the OP wants us to freely commit sin and do as if nothing happened is not true. It means you've not been digesting all the information have been passing across through all my posts. As I have previously mentioned, Christians are not encouraged to keep living a life of sin. If you do, the devil will harden your heart and destroy your body (which is God's temple) through the deceitfulness of sin (Hebrews 2:12-13) until you start denying and rejecting Jesus Christ who you've been serving and you eventually end up in hell. That is the ultimate goal of the devil for a believer making a practice of sin; to steal, kill and destroy the life of God in you (John 10:10) My message is a message of no condemnation God has given you through the finished works of Jesus Christ on the cross to start living a new life above sins, including sexual sins. The same message of no condemnation was preached by Jesus Christ (the author and finisher of our faith) to the woman who was caught in the act of Adultery. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. - John 8:10-12 (KJV) @Maser, Embrace this good news today and begin to live a life over the deceitfulness of sins. For a Christian still struggling with sexual sins, check out below one of my previous posts on step-by-step process of overcoming sexual sins. https://www.nairaland.com/3000168/step-by-step-process-living-above-sexual You're blessed! |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by moski5(m): 4:19pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
Amberon11: I can only surmise from your write up dt 4 some years now you haven't sinned, wow such a Righteous fellow Do teach how that is possible O sinless one |
Re: How A Christian Can Be Free From Condemnation After Committing Sexual Sins by Toluwani95: 6:44pm On Apr 21, 2016 |
DivineSpp: where in the Bible is a single epistle written to different set of pple? why will 1 John 1 be to unbelievers and 1 John 2 to believers More John used "we" in vs 9......, is John also an unbeliever |
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