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Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nusaf: 8:15am On Apr 20, 2016
LadyJul:
Nigeria Senate also needs to be eliminated... All dey do is just to sit down in houses and receive fat salaries enough to feed an entire nation... most of dem are useless
And they are not even satisfied with those fat salaries, hence budget distortion.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Mackson01: 8:17am On Apr 20, 2016
Just the way to go
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by LadyJul(f): 8:18am On Apr 20, 2016
Nusaf:

And they are not even satisfied with those fat salaries, hence budget distortion.
they are just too greedy.. .

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Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by olamide215: 8:20am On Apr 20, 2016
The figures below was not compiled by us but is quite instructive of where Nigeria is headed. Perhaps it could illicit questions from the masses.

Kindly share this so that everyone will know and demand answers from those elected to SERVE.

SALARY OF NIGERIAN SENATORS.

After reading through this Special Report, any shred of doubt in the reader's mind that Nigeria is doomed and heading for a headlong, downward plummeting will simply dissipate. The details of the remuneration of an average Nigerian Senator is detailed below:



* Basic Salary (B.S) - N2,484,245.50
* Hardship Allowance (50% of B.S) - N1,242,122.70
* Constituency Allowance (200% of B.S) - N4,968,509.00
* Newspapers Allowance (50% of B.S) - N1,242,122.70
* Wardrobe Allowance (25% of B.S) - N621,061.37
* Recess Allowance (10% of B.S) - N248,424.55
* Accommodation (200% of B.S) - N4,968,509.00
* Utilities (30% of B.S) - N828,081.83
* Domestic Staff (70% of B.S) - N1,863,184.12
* Entertainment (30% of B.S) - N828,081.83
* Personal Assistants (25% of B.S) - N621,061.12
* Vehicle Maintenance Allowance (75% of B.S) - N1,863,184.12
* Leave Allowance (10% of B.S) - N248,424.55
* Severance Gratuity (300% of B.S) - N7,452,736.50
* Car Allowance (400% of B.S) - N9,936,982.00
* TOTAL MONTHLY SALARY = N29,479,749.00 ($181,974.00)
* TOTAL YEARLY SALARY = N29,479,749.00 x 12 = N353,756,988.00 ($2,183,685.00)
* EXCHANGE RATE: $1 = N162
LEGISLATORS PAY WORLDWIDE PER ANNUM
* Britain - $105,400.00
* United States - $174,000.00
* France - $85,900.00
* South Africa - $104,000.00
* Kenya - $74,500.00
* Saudi Arabia - $64,000.00
* Brazil - $157,600.00
* Ghana - $46,500.00
* Indonesia - $65,800.00
* Thailand - $43,800.00
* India - $11,200.00
* Italy - $182,000.00
* Bangladesh - $4,000.00
* Israel - $114,800.00
* Hong Kong - $130,700.00
* Japan - $149,700.00
* Singapore - $154,000.00
* Canada - $154 000.00
* New Zealand - $112,500.00
* Germany - $119,500.00
* Ireland - $120,400.00
* Pakistan - $3,500.00
* Malaysia - $25,300.00
* Sweden - $99 300.00
* Sri Lanka - $5,100.00
* Spain - $43,900.00
* Norway - $138,000.00

In terms of lawmakers’ salaries as a ratio of GDP per capita, the gap is even much wider. While the salary of a Nigerian lawmaker is 116 times the country’s GDP per person, that of a British member of parliament is just 2.7 times.

The average salary of Nigerian worker based on the national minimum wage is N18,000.00, So, the yearly salary is N18,000.00 x 12 = N216,000.00 ($1,333.00)

Remember, Yearly Salary of Nigerian Senator = $2,183,685.00.
Proportion: $2,183,685.00/$1,333.00 = 1,638

It will take an average Nigerian worker 1,638 years to earn the yearly salary of a Nigerian Senator.

Source: The Economist
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Achuwa1(m): 8:22am On Apr 20, 2016
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by asodane(m): 8:08am
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.
what's he talking about. That illiterate is doing a nice job


what has grandpa achieved since he came into power.
political witch-hunt,redondancy & confusion....
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nobody: 8:30am On Apr 20, 2016
PassingShot:
I seriously hope Nigeria an tow this same path.

Not in your life , that will never happen.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nobody: 8:33am On Apr 20, 2016
Zico5:

Who will vote someone like u, who can talk anyhow to the general that mean well for Nigeria
did i mention anyone or your guilty conscience is at work.


Thanks for letting me know its buhari
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nobody: 8:35am On Apr 20, 2016
Kaykay:
Grow up please. You sound to childish, too shallow in fact too nonenti-tious undecided



i think you need to fix yours because i didn't mention anyone
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nobody: 8:39am On Apr 20, 2016
Ramanto:


You Just Ruined Her Chance.
She Better Looks For A More Objective Person To Chair Her Campaign.
go and vote for her. I'm not her campaign manager.


Did i call anyone name here or is it that your conscience is disturbing you.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by prinsam30: 8:42am On Apr 20, 2016
LadyJul:
Nigeria Senate also needs to be eliminated... All dey do is just to sit down in houses and receive fat salaries enough to feed an entire nation... most of dem are useless

useless is an understatement.

shït( Feaces) is also useless but smart dogs finds it useful

but when u say Irrelevant, they are simply non existent
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by danot1030: 8:51am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.
I would rather celebrate the president without WASC but with much life accomplishment than a phd without who has nothing to show and is not even know by many of his family member. You know what, I guess your dad is highly literate, can you tell this house what life accomplishment he has and how popular he's in your village cos asking for his national popularity will be asking for too much.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by akorebami(m): 8:53am On Apr 20, 2016
Joel3:
this is what we need in Nigeria. but we all knows it will never work. Senegal is a small country with a population is just 14 million people.

we have more population and more politicians in Nigeria. and the senate is what is been used to reward party faithfuls.



ORGANS OR ARMS OF GOVERNMENT

These are (a) Executive, (b) Legislature and (c) Judiciary


THE EXECUTIVE

It is in two forms (a) Parliamentary Executive and (b) Presidential Executive

FUNCTIONS OF EXECUTIVE

i. implementation of laws
ii. maintenance of law and order through police
iii. making of law through its power of delegated legislation
iv. it prepares budget
v. it oversees day to day running of the administration
vi. the chief executive signs bills into law
vii. it initiates bills into parliament


THE LEGISTLATURE
It is also known as parliament. Every country has its name for it, for example in nigiera, it is known as National Assembly


FUNCTIONS

i. its main function is law making
ii. it approves annual budget
iii. it give approval to nominees of chief executive
iv. ratification of treaty negotiated by the executive
v. it performs semi-judicial function in some countries
vi. it can carry out investigation on issue of public interest
vii. it performs enlightenment campaigns through its activities like debates

TYPE OF LEGISLATURE

(a) Bicameral Legislature
(b) Unicameral Legislature


BICAMERAL LEGISTLATURE
This refers to the legislature with two legislature chambers or houses e.g. Nigeria, U.S.A, and Britain etc.

REASONS/ ADVANTAGES
i. To check, delay and reverse any hasty legislation that would have been passed by a single house.
ii. Distinguished citizens can be nominated where possible for their wisdom and resources to be sapped.
iii. To prevent emergence of dictatorial government.
iv. In a nominated seconds house, the house can be non-partisan
v. It allows for efficiency as a result of sharing of works between the two houses
vi. In a federal system of government, the second house can be used to provide for sequel representation among states e.g. Nigeria senate.


PROBLEMS/ DISADVANTAGES

i. there May be rivalry between the two houses because of problem of power distribution
ii. it is a waste of resources and manpower
iii. the second house may be two conservative e.g Britain
iv. in a nominated second house, it may be seen to be undemocratic
v. it may bring delay in law making
vi. it is too expensive to run smoothly


UNICAMERAL LEGISLATURE

This refers to a legislature with a single legislative house e.g. Israel

ADVANTAGES

i. Quick law making process
ii. Absence of rivalry
iii. Less expensive to run
iv. Ideal for a unitary state.

DISADVANTAGES

i. Bills can be hastily passed
ii. It may not be appropriate for a federal system
iii. Legislature can easy dominate executive
iv. Doctorial regime can easily emerge
v. It make it easy for the dominant party to dominate the legislative


THE JUDICIARY

It is the arm of government that is responsible for interpretation of law and settlement of disputes.
FUNCTIONS OF THE JUDICIARY

i. it interprets laws
ii. it settles conflicts in the society
iii. it protect the right of individuals
iv. it protects the constitution from both executive and legislature


FEATURES OF THE JUDICIARY

i. Independent of both executive and legislature
ii. Professionalism – they are legal experts
iii. Stable tenure of office
iv. Judicial immunity in the course of performing their official duties
v. It operates based on laid down procedure
vi. It has laid down code of conduct


INDEPENDENCE OF THE JUDICIARY

It means judiciary should be free from the excessive control of the other two arms of government when carrying out its official duties





Hmm, this is quite educative. Thanks.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by abduljabbar4(m): 9:00am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.

What's wrong with these people? Honestly I wish there were no rules on nairaland
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by viktoooh: 9:02am On Apr 20, 2016
VoteDemiladgold:
Even If Nigeria opts to dissolve its senate, I don't think the national assembly will be any more competent to handle federal issues.


But do you think Nigeria should continue to copy what others are doing here and there?






What is national assembly and what is senate?
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by feeloscar(m): 9:05am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.
Don't delve into issues that concern Nigeria,because achuwa sounds and is Biafra.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by xreal: 9:07am On Apr 20, 2016
DEXTROVERT:
Dissolve
Is
Too
Small
For
Us
It
Should
Be
NIGERIANS
Killed
All
Her
Senators

I
can
see

some
sense
in
your
non sense.

We will save billions of dollars in a year if we do such.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Zico5(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2016
Fedayeen:
did i mention anyone or your guilty conscience is at work.


Thanks for letting me know its buhari
Guilty conscience? The man is doing good compare to ur mentor the squander Everything u and I supposed to enjoy. Live with it, he is ur president
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Welcomme: 9:20am On Apr 20, 2016
nairalandbuzz:
One thing you all need to understand is that... both lower and upper house that are doing check and balance are not competent enough let alone dissolving one chamber at a go..

my one cent...

For Presidential and Vice Posts: Minimum of Masters in any field + MPA
For Governors: Minimum of Bsc + MPA
For Local Govt: Minimum of HND
For Council Chairmen: Minimum of OND
For Ministers: Minimum of PHD
For Senators and d likes : Minimum of MPA


These ppl must know what they are being sent to do na...
else, na rubbish anyone wey go there go dey do...
Fixed
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Lectuwaire(m): 9:29am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.
is their any illitrate morethan u?
U are a disgrace....pmb is more educated than the whole of ur family, and 4 ur infrmtn he is 2 rule dis cntry 4 good 8yrs.
Godblss pmb.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by afoobabs(m): 9:37am On Apr 20, 2016
nairalandbuzz:
One thing you all need to understand is that... both lower and upper house that are doing check and balance are not competent enough let alone dissolving one chamber at a go..

my one cent...

For Presidential and Vice Posts: Minimum of Masters in any field + MBA.
For Governors: Minimum of Bsc + MBA
For Local Govt: Minimum of HND
For Council Chairmen: Minimum of OND
For Ministers: Minimum of PHD
For Senators and d likes : Minimum of MBA


These ppl must know what they are being sent to do na...
else, na rubbish anyone wey go there go dey do...
ur ineffectual buffoon PhD holder what did he achieve. Abraham Lincoln attend no school but today he can never be forgotten in USA govt is not all about bookish theory
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by nairalandbuzz(m): 9:56am On Apr 20, 2016
[size=18pt][b]Many guys are quoting me for this cos you are misunderstanding me... I aint talking about the past... now we are looking at the present future... Abraham Lincoln ruled in the past and the future we are looking at is technology and business driven... Things are evolving and I believe you should know that our rules should evolve with them as you all know you cant have stale rules in an evolving environment. It does not take morals alone... morals wont teach you how to run a country in a politicized or corrupt world please...

Most people would agree that institutions giving honorary degrees to folks alike have seen good traits in them with respect of the discipline before giving it out and such are there in the world today and are making impacts in the respective seats...

There is a general saying that out of everyone that passed through school, only a few percentage of them did schooling actually passed through...

Did you guys see the prime minister of Canada trending on Monday as he fully explained quantum computing to a group of fund raisers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZBLSjF56S8

Guys, I believe we are young and would like you to reason with me... this country needs to move into greater heights and its not by depending on non-...

Anyways, all is well.
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Sunnycliff:


If the Northerners attack you for this eeh?
You don't no that to them it's not by certificate
If the zombies can proudly say a Nepa certificate holder is what they want, what else is the need of all these additional degrees you earlier stated??
Good morning!

Badgers14:


You forgot to add common sense to the mix grin grin grin

Indeed from my experience, I have hired and fired hundreds in my business... Some people have MBA and first class but they are just waste of space..
Common sense should be number one...Also humility goes a long way too

Abbeyunique2:

Wrong mentality. MBA, phd doesnt gurantees good goverment. we all knw how the Prof. Vcs are running our universities. it's not about level of education, it is about level of common sense

Pamelayoung:


No bi to get MBA be the issue na to defend am, cos many of them can buy d result that's why you see them behaving like touts.

Nalikedis:
lol... I think our universities where those u listed rule is worse than the cointry as a whole. The last word you hear in a university administration is accountability. A professor that used a rigged data because of non availability of equipment to obtain his PhD... Will concentrate on building perimeter fences instead of purchasing the same equipment he wished he had... I will rather we have a president with millitary experience...everybody should have a priviledge of serving in the millitary even if it is as a reserve. It is not coincidence that americans always adore veteran presidential candidate, prince William and his brother choice of joining the military is another example. Military breed discipline and patriotism...

General2COAS:
that of President should be a minimum of PHD in any discipline + at least a professional certificate in management & maximum monthly earnings shouldn't exceed #500,000 then see hw many would be running for such positions

princetom1:


Really? In Nigeria where some holder aren't as good as some primary certificate holder. What is d essence of ur certificate without common sense? (legislators fighting). We should do away with this certificate sentiment, its killing alot of things. Its all about a person, PhD wount make u to be uncorrupt, in fact, its time we start apreciting ones talent instead of all these fake certificates.

ibietela2:


Not everyone that has degrees have sense....

d33types:


Everything isn't about business and MBA. Various positions are better suited for technocrats such as ministry heads.. Lawmaking is even better suited to LLB than MBA...

afoobabs:
ur ineffectual buffoon PhD holder what did he achieve. Abraham Lincoln attend no school but today he can never be forgotten in USA govt is not all about bookish theory
OlujobaSamuel:

are you seriously serious? do you know how many prof, dr, msc holders we have in political post? what you wrote up there is wishful thinking, even in a military regime, you can't make such decree.
The current criteria for our elective post is good enough if we can get one of high morals and proven integrity.
eg, President:35years plus a minimum of SSCE or 10yrs working experience as a civil servant. If you can get your ssce at the age of 18year, then aspires to contest, citizens must be able to question you on what you have been doing for 17years, if you have no serious activity to engage in and they see you to be good enough to be elected, so be it.
kenonze:



Good and sincere leadership has nothing to do with academic qualifications.
If academic qualifications is a sole yardstick for good governance, why do we still have highest level of bad leadership i many universities and teaching hospitals where we have academic Dons?
wirinet:


You must be a degree holder with an MBA , that is why you advocate for people with your qualifications only to aspire tor the highest political positions in the land. What of people with OND, HND, Post graduate diploma and other diplomas, they should not aspire to serve their country as president or governor? You are saying they should not be hire in top management positions.
What concerns MBA with political office? I even thought you will say Political science, Social studies or even history.

There is no direct correlation between political, business or social success with the type of academic degree. We have had many successful politicians and entrepreneurs and other people without university degrees.
Here is a list of US presidents without university degrees;



Even in the area of business, over half of the world's richest men are without university degrees.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by razzberries: 9:59am On Apr 20, 2016
blackpanda:


I thot we have gone passed this foolishness. How do u get into the army and ascend up to becoming a general without certificate. You this wailers need brai reboot asap!
well it depends on the kind of people we had in the army then, remember in those days the army was for school dropouts and the no-do-goods of the society. u didn't need a certifie to join the army, the better for you if u have none
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by ehiski23: 10:04am On Apr 20, 2016
Nigeria should learn from Senegal
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by dablue1: 10:35am On Apr 20, 2016
All of them should be banished from nija
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nusaf: 10:36am On Apr 20, 2016
engrchykae:
and they made Nigeria to be Africa's largest economic,they had economic direction and were not a scalar quantity like pmb's nigeria.
Apart from NOI, the rest are the worst things that have ever happened to this great country.
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by olisaEze(m): 10:38am On Apr 20, 2016
DEXTROVERT:
Dissolve
Is
Too
Small
For
Us
It
Should
Be
NIGERIANS
Killed
All
Her
Senators

Two hundred and something likes for advocating mass murder? Una dey vex o! Naija's problems are not solely from the upper house, it's the tolerant nature of our society as regards injustice and criminality. If u were related 2a senator, you'd probably have a different view. undecided
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by nkemjacob2(m): 11:22am On Apr 20, 2016
There was the need for senegal to scrab their senate assembly cos it has no relevant to them @ dat momemt which they want to save $15m. Here in nigeria the red senate is more of economy liabilities than assets. U could imagine the applicants recorded over police $ navy recruitment that's madness failure in the aspect of the economy. We dont just need scrabbing the senates, but to change our constitution which is badly written for the country to move forward
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Oruku: 11:32am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.
so you are educated?
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nafizzey(m): 11:53am On Apr 20, 2016
TheProphetess:
Instead of removing the senate let us reduce their salary to 500k per month. If and only if they start performing well wil we increase to maybe 1Mil.
I can't be living in a country where a common senator is making more that US president and they still steal on top of that. angry
What is 500k per month?? In my opinion let it be free of charge so that we will know those who have interest of the nation at heart...
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by Nobody: 11:58am On Apr 20, 2016
Achuwa1:
the issue is not with the senate,but the president tht has no WASC certificate,,,,,how can an illiterate be rulling a country with so many sound & educated graduates,msc holders,phd holders 7 professors.,,,we need to get rid of pmb as soon as possible.


Sorry o. When does educational certificates become the only criteria for posts such as that of the president? The constitution clarifies that issue.
Were you not born when a PhD holder, PMB's predecessor, manage the country as clueless and with less discipline as expected from a toddler. Make a constructive criticism. Time has proven it again and again that this formal learning called EDUCATION doesn't meet life's requirements in any way.
Leaders are not made in schools but outside it
Re: Nigeria Learn: Senegal Gets Rid Of Its Senate To Save Money by mencer(m): 11:59am On Apr 20, 2016
[quote author=nairalandbuzz post=44837954]One thing you all need to understand is that... both lower and upper house that are doing check and balance are not competent enough let alone dissolving one chamber at a go..

my one cent...

For Presidential and Vice Posts: Minimum of Masters in any field + MBA.
For Governors: Minimum of Bsc + MBA
For Local Govt: Minimum of HND
For Council Chairmen: Minimum of OND
For Ministers: Minimum of PHD
For Senators and d likes : Minimum of MBA


These ppl must know what they are being sent to do na...
else, na rubbish anyone wey go there go dey do...

[size=15pt][b]Many guys are quoting me for this cos you are misunderstanding me... I aint talking about the past... now we are looking at the present future... Abraham Lincoln ruled in the past and the future we are looking at is technology and business driven... Things are evolving and I believe you should know that our rules should evolve with them as you all know you cant have stale rules in an evolving environment. It does not take morals alone... morals wont teach you how to run a country in a politicized or corrupt world please...

Most people would agree that institutions giving honorary degrees to folks alike have seen good traits in them with respect of the discipline before giving it out and such are there in the world today and are making impacts in the respective seats...

There is a general saying that out of everyone that passed through school, only a few percentage of them did schooling actually passed through...

Did you guys see the prime minister of Canada trending on Monday as he fully explained quantum computing to a group of fund raisers concerning a national project?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZBLSjF56S8

Guys, I believe we are young and would like you to reason with me... this country needs to move into greater heights and its not by depending on non-...

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