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Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:24am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Says the Religion with more factions than a MiddleEast conflict.

Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 9:28am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
That's the truth . If you want to debate a Christian , you have to ACCEPT who God truly is .
You have a very shallow and myopic understanding of the world, a huge surprise considering your size tongue. I'm atheist, not non-Christian. Atheism is not opposite to Christianity; it's opposite is theism, which is a huge umbrella for lots of God's and religions. Before I can accept who God truly is, you have to sort out who God trulys is, with your fellow God-believers aka Catholics, Chinese Christians, Muslims, ATR's, Hinduism etc. You've got churches to backup their beleif, they've got shrines, and mosques and temples and holy places too. They've even got books, creation stories, eternal promises, the whole package of eternal fresh fruits.
Again, just thought it's imperative to sort this out. Your problem isn't really with the atheist. Your main issue comes from other Believers who just don't see the Invisible God the way you do.


KingEbukasBlog:
God is not subject to his laws - that is who God is . You arguing against it is plain stu__pid ..
I'd rather be stupid than loudly ignorant. The strength of your arguments are not influenced by the power of your sentiments. cool tongue
Re: Debate An Atheist by donnffd(m): 9:28am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
There are certain countries who are NOT particularly religious per se but they do not permit abortion - against the law. What makes it wrong or right as a humanist to commit abortion assuming the woman is raped ?
Abortion is a different ball-game, the woman should decide whether she wants to have the baby or not, and if the law prohibits it, then the law should make provision for unwanted babies but when you have a law that dictates who you can love or not, thats just pure discrimination.
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:41am On Apr 21, 2016
donnffd:
Abortion is a different ball-game, the woman should decide whether she wants to have the baby or not, and if the law prohibits it, then the law should make provision for unwanted babies
You didnt answer my question . As a humanist , what makes it wrong or right for a woman to have an abortion?
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:50am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
You have a very shallow and myopic understanding of the world, a huge surprise considering your size tongue. I'm atheist, not non-Christian. Atheism is not opposite to Christianity; it's opposite is theism, which is a huge umbrella for lots of God's and religions. Before I can accept who God truly is, you have to sort out who God trulys is, with your fellow God-believers aka Catholics, Chinese Christians, Muslims, ATR's, Hinduism etc. You've got churches to backup their beleif, they've got shrines, and mosques and temples and holy places too. They've even got books, creation stories, eternal promises, the whole package of eternal fresh fruits.
Again, just thought it's imperative to sort this out. Your problem isn't really with the atheist. Your main issue comes from other Believers who just don't see the Invisible God the way you do.
This is a red herring .

I'd rather be stupid than loudly ignorant. The strength of your arguments are not influenced by the power of your sentiments. cool tongue
Then UncleSnr you just wasted your time . SonOfLucifer , Satan's myrmidon you have nothing to say !
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 9:51am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
This is a red herring .
Show how.
Don't bother. Your opinions are always right by default. Like your God.
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 9:52am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
You didnt answer my question . As a humanist , what makes it wrong or right for a woman to have an abortion?
Same reason it's wrong to masturbate. Stop wasting life. embarassed
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:56am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Show how.
Don't bother. Your opinions are always right by default. Like your God.
cool

Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:58am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Same reason it's wrong to masturbate. Stop wasting life. embarassed
But Judges issue verdicts that end lives huh . Why is that right ? undecided
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
But Judges issue verdicts that end lives huh . Why is that right ? undecided
Of their own power?
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:15am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Of their own power?
So what makes it right ?That's ending human life
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 10:17am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
So what makes it right ?That's ending human life
Same old Kingebukasblog, dodging questions and answering the unasked. What happens if you win arguments, and lose the truth? tongue
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:19am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Same old Kingebukasblog, dodging questions and answering the unasked. What happens if you win arguments, and lose the truth? tongue
You are accusing me of what you just did now . grin .


No wahala wink
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:24am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
What happens if you win arguments, and lose the truth? tongue
In the religion section ? I win arguments because I stand by the truth , the truth always prevails cool . You always lose because of the mendacity and meretriciousness of your arguments tongue
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 10:31am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
I win arguments because I stand by the truth.
What is Truth?
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:38am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
What is Truth?
In accordance with fact or reality
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 10:39am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
In accordance with fact or reality
Lol. Fact and reality is?
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:43am On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
Lol. Fact and reality is?
Cannot be denied and is perceived .
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 10:50am On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Cannot be denied and is perceived .
So what is Truth?
Re: Debate An Atheist by donnffd(m): 12:36pm On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
You didnt answer my question . As a humanist , what makes it wrong or right for a woman to have an abortion?
Look, i cant give a stand as to whether abortion is right or wrong because it is a very complicated matter, it depends on the context in which you mean, A raped woman who doesnt want the baby can have an abortion, i dont see anything morally wrong with that as long as the embryo hasnt gotten a well developed nervous system to feel pain. However the issue i was discussing was something different and not abortion, i dont know how that relates to the topic undecided
Re: Debate An Atheist by MrPresident1: 5:43pm On Apr 21, 2016
johnydon22:
Disbelief in all Gods.. an atheist can still be religious
Interesting.

So, to what end is the religiosity of an atheist who does not believe in God?
Re: Debate An Atheist by MrPresident1: 5:57pm On Apr 21, 2016
sonOfLucifer:
You have a very shallow and myopic understanding of the world, a huge surprise considering your size tongue. I'm atheist, not non-Christian. Atheism is not opposite to Christianity; it's opposite is theism, which is a huge umbrella for lots of God's and religions. Before I can accept who God truly is, you have to sort out who God trulys is, with your fellow God-believers aka Catholics, Chinese Christians, Muslims, ATR's, Hinduism etc. You've got churches to backup their beleif, they've got shrines, and mosques and temples and holy places too. They've even got books, creation stories, eternal promises, the whole package of eternal fresh fruits.
Again, just thought it's imperative to sort this out. Your problem isn't really with the atheist. Your main issue comes from other Believers who just don't see the Invisible God the way you do.



I'd rather be stupid than loudly ignorant. The strength of your arguments are not influenced by the power of your sentiments. cool tongue
Can you please give more explanation on the bolded part?

My opinion is, If theism is about belief in God and religions, it goes without saying that atheism is the opposite, that is, non belief in God and religions. But you appear to be creating a region of contiguity by saying you are atheist not non-Christian (or non-Muslim, not non-Hindu, or non Buddhist etc), where is the reconciliation?
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:59pm On Apr 21, 2016
donnffd:
Look, i cant give a stand as to whether abortion is right or wrong because it is a very complicated matter, it depends on the context in which you mean, A raped woman who doesnt want the baby can have an abortion, i dont see anything morally wrong with that[b][/b] as long as the embryo hasnt gotten a well developed nervous system to feel pain.
So according to the emboldened text , an action could be seen as morally right or wrong by perception . No guide whatsoever . Noted !
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:08pm On Apr 21, 2016
johnydon22:
Disbelief in all Gods.. an atheist can still be religious
What the heck is this huh Bro . This does not make sense . Expatiate !
Re: Debate An Atheist by donnffd(m): 6:18pm On Apr 21, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
So according to the emboldened text , an action could be seen as morally right or wrong by perception . No guide whatsoever . Noted !
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, but if I can deduce, you need a guide to tell you what's morally right or wrong. Well I dnt need that guide, before I make a moral judgement, I analyse the situation and look at the consequences of the choice, is it preventing a sentient being happiness?, if it was done to me,would I like it?,if I was in that shoe, what would I do?...after analysis,I can tend decide if something is morally wrong or not, I don't need a guide, I am not that hopeless
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:22pm On Apr 21, 2016
donnffd:
I don't understand the point you are trying to make, but if I can deduce, you need a guide to tell you what's morally right or wrong. Well I dnt need that guide, before I make a moral judgement, I analyse the situation and look at the consequences of the choice, is it preventing a sentient being happiness?, if it was done to me,would I like it?,if I was in that shoe, what would I do?...after analysis,I can tend decide if something is morally wrong or not, I don't need a guide, I am not that hopeless
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SonOfLucifer call your boy to order
Re: Debate An Atheist by dblackninja: 9:13pm On Apr 21, 2016
Chai this man^ has resurrected! Make I spray mat 1st.
Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 11:11pm On Apr 21, 2016
MrPresident1:
Interesting.

So, to what end is the religiosity of an atheist who does not believe in God?
Religion is not belief in God, there are people who are theists but do not subscribe to any religion as well as Deistic people too.

KingEbukasBlog:
What the heck is this huh Bro . This does not make sense . Expatiate !
Lmao.. i guess this is new to you? Yeah it's expected..

analice107:
Atheists can still be religious?
I thought religion is the adherence to a god or gods?
here is the definition of Religion Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, mythologies, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence".

An atheists can still be religious, atheism only means disbelief in Gods not irreligious.

One can be religious but do not believe any deity exists e.g Buddhism is a religion but averagely atheistic, one can be irreligious and still have a belief in a deity.

You can practise Christianity, islam, buddhism, etc but as long as you agree that you don't believe Gods exists, you are an atheist.

so do not confuse the two, religiosity and irreligiosity has nothing to do with atheism.

There are even Atheist who still practise Christianity but agree that they do not share belief in any God just adhere to Christian doctrines and religious practices ..

1 out of every 6 priest or pastor in neatherlands is either atheist or agnostic..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism ...
Re: Debate An Atheist by Nobody: 12:16am On Apr 22, 2016
johnydon22:
Religion is not belief in God, there are people who are theists but do not subscribe to any religion as well as Deistic people too.


Lmao.. i guess this is new to you? Yeah it's expected..


here is the definition of Religion Religion is a cultural system of behaviors and practices, mythologies, world views, sacred texts, holy places, ethics, and societal organisation that relate humanity to what an anthropologist has called "an order of existence".

An atheists can still be religious, atheism only means disbelief in Gods not irreligious.

One can be religious but do not believe any deity exists e.g Buddhism is a religion but averagely atheistic, one can be irreligious and still have a belief in a deity.

You can practise Christianity, islam, buddhism, etc but as long as you agree that you don't believe Gods exists, you are an atheist.

so do not confuse the two, religiosity and irreligiosity has nothing to do with atheism.

There are even Atheist who still practise Christianity but agree that they do not share belief in any God just adhere to Christian doctrines and religious practices ..

1 out of every 6 priest or pastor in neatherlands is either atheist or agnostic..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism ...
They truly are just ignorant people... they defend what they don't understand on the basis that it can't be understood. And this makes sense to people like KingEbukasBlog.

They don't understand simple concepts like religion, atheism, deism, pantheism, morality, and here they are making noise.

Some christians would admit that they can't produce any convincing evidence about the existence of God, but chose to believe anyway. These are the kind of christians I respect. Not the likes of KingEbukasBlog who just engages in self-deception and public display of shame.
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:54am On Apr 22, 2016
Pyrrho:
They truly are just ignorant people... they defend what they don't understand on the basis that it can't be understood. And this makes sense to people like KingEbukasBlog.

They don't understand simple concepts like religion, atheism, deism, pantheism, morality, and here they are making noise.

Some christians would admit that they can't produce any convincing evidence about the existence of God, but chose to believe anyway. These are the kind of christians I respect. Not the likes of KingEbukasBlog who just engages in self-deception and public display of shame.
Can you tone down your obsession with me ?

Plus stop prevaricating and mention these christians who cannot provide any cogent evidence for God . You pathetic ignorant liar

No atheist on Nairaland or any where in the world has ever produced any proof that precludes the existence of an eternal conscious creator . Assumptions are not proofs , get that into your skull .
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:18am On Apr 22, 2016
johnydon22:
1 out of every 6 priest or pastor in neatherlands is either atheist or agnostic..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism ...
lol . Load of tosh . How can a pastor be an atheist or agnostic . Its like an epigone who is not sure who he is pastiching or a follower who is not sure of his master - it does not make any sense . Such people need to be immured because they have that tendency to use their religious position to carry out despicable acts . And if it were in Nigeria , irrational atheists like Pyrrho would use it as proof to show God does not exist . grin
Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:21am On Apr 22, 2016
dblackninja:
Chai this man^ has resurrected! Make I spray mat 1st.
Resurgence not resurrection bro !
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