Ishilove:

My sister, let us call a spade a spade. When something is bad, let us not couch it in political correctness and self deception

Well there's this little fact that, calling something bad, doesn't make it bad at all, therefore my sister, how we go do am?

And how can you tell, that a person is deceiving themselves in this type of issue?

freecocoa:
Well there's this little fact that, calling something bad, doesn't make it bad at all, therefore my sister, how we go do am?

And how can you tell, that a person is deceiving themselves in this type of issue?

Straight off the top of my head and not in anyway trying to answer for Ishi, allow me to give you my insight as to how a person might be deceiving himself/herself here:

For someone like you who was born in Nigeria and have lived most of her life in Nigeria (not sure where you're currently domiciled), it becomes quite preposterous to imagine how you suddenly begun expressing support and sympathy for the gay community when there must have been no point in time in your life where you may have been exposed to the practice of homosexuality on a societal level.

And since there are actually White/Black/Hispanic people who were born in the west, have lived their entire lives in the liberal west and absorbed its cultures/customs, but still they do not support homosexuality in any form - what is your excuse?

crackhaus:

Straight off the top of my head and not in anyway trying to answer for Ishi, allow me to give you my insight as to how a person might be deceiving himself/herself here:

For someone like you who was born in Nigeria and have lived most of her life in Nigeria (not sure where you're currently domiciled), it becomes quite preposterous to imagine how you suddenly begun expressing support and sympathy for the gay community when there must have been no point in time in your life where you may have been exposed to the practice of homosexuality on a societal level.

And since there are actually White/Black/Hispanic people who were born in the west, have lived their entire lives in the liberal west and absorbed its cultures/customs, but still they do not support homosexuality in any form - what is your excuse?

it becomes preposterous to you because you fall to realise that human beings can actually exist and make decisions based on reason, rather than religion/culture.

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freecocoa:
it becomes preposterous to you because you fall to realise that human beings can actually exist and make decisions based on reason, rather than religion/culture.

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Lol, I guess you thought this made sense.

Where does reason come from?
Were you born with it?

Everything you now know/have learned in life is a direct derivative of something...ergo, you were influenced by culture, religion, education, upbringing, environment, etc...whether you care to admit it or not.
Is this not a statement of fact?

So which of these influences taught you that homosexuality is normal?

This Freetoto is a very nauseating human being. She just doesn't know how dumb she sounds whenever she tries to form intellectual.
Very disgusting thing, little wonder she's fucckkking lonely. Wouldn't wish her on my enemy.

KevinDein:
This Freetoto is a very nauseating human being. She just doesn't know how dumb she sounds whenever she tries to form intellectual.
Very disgusting thing, little wonder she's fucckkking lonely. Wouldn't wish her on my enemy.

Allow us have our conversation in peace bro, I take God beg you..

crackhaus:

Allow us have our conversation in peace bro, I take God beg you..

Your girlfriend who quotes you upandan did not quote you today?

I'm pretty sure she is in nuthouse where they give inmates internet access

crackhaus:

Lol, I guess you thought this made sense.

Where does reason come from?
Were you born with it?

Everything you now know/have learned in life is a direct derivative of something...ergo, you were influenced by culture, religion, education, upbringing, environment, etc...whether you care to admit it or not.
Is this not a statement of fact?

So which of these influences taught you that homosexuality is normal?

I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.


If any human isn't born with reason, how did we arrive at how to start learning and understanding things?

KevinDein:
This Freetoto is a very nauseating human being. She just doesn't know how dumb she sounds whenever she tries to form intellectual.
Very disgusting thing, little wonder she's fucckkking lonely. Wouldn't wish her on my enemy.

hahah

You gon jump off a bridge soon, keep at it.

freecocoa:
I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.


If any human isn't born with reason, how did we arrive at how to start learning and understanding things?

OMG, freecocoa what is this na?. You're making this game too easy for crackhaus. If you keep coming up with responses like this, he's gonna whoop your äss so bad. Up your game, baby.

crackhaus:

Allow us have our conversation in peace bro, I take God beg you..

Oooops, sorry mate.

Bolade005:

OMG, freecocoa what is this na?. You're making this game too easy for crackhaus. If you keep coming up with responses like this, he's gonna whoop your äss so bad. Up your game, baby.


Oooops, sorry mate.

Maybe you can join him, instead of making unwarranted comments.

Ishilove:

Your girlfriend who quotes you upandan did not quote you today?

I'm pretty sure she is in nuthouse where they give inmates internet access

Lol...
She probably got tired, but I won't be surprised if she comes over to start all over again. Certifiable, that one

Bolade005:

OMG, freecocoa what is this na?. You're making this game too easy for crackhaus. If you keep coming up with responses like this, he's gonna whoop your äss so bad. Up your game, baby.


Oooops, sorry mate.

Hehehehe...

You KevinDein?

freecocoa:
Maybe you can join him, instead of making unwarranted comments.

Naah, he's doing a good job whooping your fine äss alone.

crackhaus:

Hehehehe...
You KevinDein?

I'm not KevinDein.

Bolade005:

Naah, he's doing a good job whooping your fine äss alone.

What else could you say? Now allow him whoop my azz in peace.

freecocoa:
What else could you say? Now allow him whoop my azz in peace.

All right, baby.

Bolade005:

Naah, he's doing a good job whooping your fine äss alone.


I'm not KevinDein.

Lol, okay.

freecocoa:
I'm not surprised it doesn't make sense to you.


If any human isn't born with reason, how did we arrive at how to start learning and understanding things?

Lol.. You haven't answered the question but I will indulge you by responding to yours.

Yes, no human is born with reason or a pre-conceived thought process...As an infant, a human is like a blank flash drive waiting for information to be uploaded onto it and everything this child will come to know, support and believe in (his principles) will be a derivative of the culture he/she was born into, religion, upbringing, environment, and education.
This is how you start learning and understanding things.

You're right to say that humans can make decisions based on reason, what you don't know however is that 'reason' is not an independent concept.

The question remains, what influenced your reason?

crackhaus:

Lol.. You haven't answered the question but I will indulge you by responding to yours.

Yes, no human is born with reason or a pre-conceived thought process...As an infant, a human is like a blank flash drive waiting for information to be uploaded into it and everything that child will come to know, support and believe in (his principles) will be a derivative of the culture he/she was born into, religion, upbringing, environment, and education.
This is how you start learning and understanding things.

You're right to say that humans can make decisions based on reason, what you don't know is that 'reason' is dependent on upbringing, religion, culture, education, and/or environment.

So I ask again, what influenced your reason?

Why do I have to pick one of the factors on the list, if people who I have all those in common with feel differently on the subject? I'd like to think that if those are the basis for our thought process, people who have those in common, would reason alike, no?

If an infant isn't born with reason whatsoever, it wouldn't be able to understand any of what it goes on to learn, this is why an infant would refuse to feed from a bottle, but will from the original source and another would take the bottle rejecting the main source, how did it know to tell the difference between both if it can't reason at all?

My humanity is reason for having no issues with hömosexuality.

freecocoa:
My humanity is reason for having no issues with hömosexuality.

So, "your humanity" embraces and celebrates two dysfunctional men in their perverted behaviour, but does not extend to the long-term health and well-being of a baby girl?

Your "humanity", would deny her the knowledge of her full, biological and cultural heritage, or extended family. Your "humanity" would deny her being raised with correctly modelled masculine and feminine conduct and behaviours?

Look over there, it's the moral high-ground, go, occupy. I think I may owe an apology to godless dumb twatts - they would never accept you amongst their number.


TV

TV01:


So, "your humanity" embraces and celebrates two dysfunctional men in their perverted behaviour, but does not extend to the long-term health and well-being of a baby girl?

Your "humanity", would deny her the knowledge of her full, biological and cultural heritage, or extended family. Your "humanity" would deny her being raised with correctly modelled masculine and feminine conduct and behaviours?

Look over there, it's the moral high-ground, go, occupy. I think I may owe an apology to godless dumb twatts- they would never accept you amongst their number.


TV

Unless you can see into the future or have actual proof that being raised by two gay men will affect the girl's long term health and well being, please shut up.

Since when is cultural heritage what defines a person? How is this crucial, if people get to pick and drop cultures as they like? How do you know the supposed heritage you carry about is truly yours? I'd like to know what not having this information will restrict you from achieving, that you would if you did.

I take it you had a DNA test carried out on your ancestors and everyone in your lineage to be actually sure your biological heritage is what you carry with you today, otherwise, you may just be yet another wanderer with no roots on this earth, no?

The families of her dads and the ones she'll go on to later form, are all the extended family she needs.

Of what use is this so called correctly modelled masculine and feminine conducts/behaviours if a girl raised with those, can end up behaving in a way that is said to be manly and a boy with same, behaving in a way considered girly?

Yes you do, as for your godless irrelevant talk, myself and other people are all the god I need, so keep your god, he's of no use to me.

Now your close minded and judemental self can go occupy a seat with the host of your imaginary heaven, where your penchant to pass judement will be put to good use, instead of wasting it on people who give don't give half a feck what you think of them.

freecocoa:
Unless you can see into the future or have actual proof that being raised by two gay men will affect the girl's long term health and well being, please shut up.

Since when is cultural heritage what defines a person? How is this crucial, if people get to pick and drop cultures as they like? How do you know the supposed heritage you carry about is truly yours? I'd like to know what not having this information will restrict you from achieving, that you would if you did.

I take it you had a DNA test carried out on your ancestors and everyone in your lineage to be actually sure your biological heritage is what you carry with you today, otherwise, you may just be yet another wanderer with no roots on this earth, no?

The families of her dads and the ones she'll go on to later form, are all the extended family she needs.

Of what use is this so called correctly modelled masculine and feminine conducts/behaviours if a girl raised with those, can end up behaving in a way that is said to be manly and a boy with same, behaving in a way considered girly?

Yes you do, as for your godless irrelevant talk, myself and other people are all the god I need, so keep your god, he's of no use to me.

Now your close minded and judemental self can go occupy a seat with the host of your imaginary heaven, where your penchant to pass judement will be put to good use, instead of wasting it on people who give don't give half a feck what you think of them.

Cocoa, don't get your panties in a bunch.. lol

Let me elaborate:
You say your humanity is the reason you've become permissive and sympathetic (by virtue of your ability to reason) to the issue of homosexuality, ergo, live and let live...
How is it that your humanity feels no sympathy/empathy for an innocent girl who will be raised by two men when in fact she would most likely be surrounded by children who are raised in a conventional family unit.

I know you'll likely come up with 'the child will be loved and will learn to live with it' mantra...this isn't the point.
The point here would be your humanity.

Isn't your humanity supposed to be more sympathetic to the innocent little child that will never experience what it it to have a mother, than to the two men having sex and playing family with each other?

Which of the two is humanity more sympathetic to 'on a normal day?'

crackhaus:

Cocoa, don't get your panties in a bunch.. lol

Let me elaborate:
You say your humanity is the reason you've become permissive and sympathetic (by virtue of your ability to reason) to the issue of homosexuality, ergo, live and let live...
How is it that your humanity feels no sympathy/empathy for an innocent girl who will be raised by two men when in fact she would most likely be surrounded by children who are raised in a conventional family unit.

I know you'll likely come up with 'the child will be loved and will learn to live with it' mantra...this isn't the point.
The point here would be your humanity.

Isn't your humanity supposed to be more sympathetic to the innocent little child that will never experience what it it to have a mother, than to the two men having sex and playing family with each other?

Which of the two is humanity more sympathetic to 'on a normal day?'

Oh! Please, I don't play games.

I don't see why how wouldn't understand that our differences is part of what makes us humans, if you teach her right, in the first place, having two dads doesn't make her less than a person with a mum and dad.

Unless you can tell us exactly what having a mother feels like, provide proof that everyone with a mother feels that way, and also prove that the girl will never experience that feeling, then you have no point.

freecocoa:
Oh! Please, I don't play games.

I don't see why how wouldn't understand that our differences is part of what makes us humans, if you teach her right, in the first place, having two dads doesn't make her less than a person with a mum and dad.

Unless you can tell us exactly what having a mother feels like, provide proof that everyone with a mother feels that way, and also prove that the girl will never experience that feeling, then you have no point.

Madam you are talking bullsshiitttt!!!

mrsuccessful:



Madam you are talking bullsshiitttt!!!

Okay but What are you going to do about it?

freecocoa:
Okay but What are you going to do about it?

Am going to let you know that you're talking BULLSSHIITTTT!!! Everybody dey form enlightened SMH

mrsuccessful:


Am going to let you know that you're talking BULLSSHIITTTT!!! Everybody dey form enlightened SMH

And now that I know what you think I'm talking? What difference does it make?

freecocoa:
And now that I know what you think I'm talking? What difference does it make?

The difference is that I said my mind and you should be told

mrsuccessful:


The difference is that I said my mind and you should be told

What you seem not to understand is that, whatever you say, makes no difference because the person you are telling your mind, doesn't consider your mind something of interest or worthy of exploring, if anything it just reminds one of how unreasonable people can be, so in the end you see that, your comment wasn't necessary, you really shouldn't have bothered.

freecocoa:
What you seem not to understand is that, whatever you say, makes no difference because the person you are telling your mind, doesn't consider your mind something of interest or worthy of exploring, if anything it just reminds one of how unreasonable people can be, so in the end you see that, your comment wasn't necessary, you really shouldn't have bothered.

Unreasonable you say, I wish you had two men danging themselves as your parents.... then you will know the true meaning of bulshit, here you are trying to play "miss Evolved mind" keep that shit to yourself till you marry a girl and adopt a son...until then you are talking bullsshiitttt

mrsuccessful:


Unreasonable you say, I wish you had two men danging themselves as your parents.... then you will know the true meaning of bulshit, here you are trying to play "miss Evolved mind" keep that shit to yourself till you marry a girl and adopt a son...until then you are talking bullsshiitttt

But since you can't stop me from keeping it to myself and I don't care what you think, just how do you win in any of this? This is just like you trying to show a blind man a picture, does that make sense to you? Doesn't that seem rather, Stup1d?

freecocoa:
But since you can't stop me from keeping it to myself and I don't care what you think, just how do you win in any of this? This is just like you trying to show a blind man a picture, does that make sense to you? Doesn't that seem rather, Stup1d?

Now I get your point, to you this is about winning an argument....no iz not, it's me telling you that you're talking BULLSSHIITTTT, if your dad got married a guy, you won't be here telling me about blind man and pictures