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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by obama30: 2:51pm On Jun 05, 2016
Mohamed is an idiot for allow his followers to kill

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by IamAtribalist: 2:56pm On Jun 05, 2016
shocked
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Baaballiyo(m): 3:25pm On Jun 05, 2016
histemple:


I suspect that you are either a northerner or a Muslim apologist but I have just one question for you.

What ACTION would be enough for YOU to justify a REACTION to kill a human being who didn't kill or harm anybody?

I am both ( A Muslim and a Northerner ).

I am not justifying what they did and not in support of it, this kind of events have been happening in the North for many decades with this type of jungle justice mated upon the offender, so the only sure way to stop it, is to make those that trigger the reaction to desist from such actions. My call is to condemn both the ACTION and REACTION not only the reaction. So that in future all this can/will be avoided.

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Baaballiyo(m): 3:34pm On Jun 05, 2016
EnlightenedSoul:


Logically, you cannot possibly put her actions on the same plane as theirs by referring to both as barbaric. That she spoke ill of Islam, does not give them the right to murder.

Things that are barbaric , are uncivilized and brutal. What she did was uncivilized, yeah they have no such right, but out here people think otherwise that's why even the authorities tend to tred carefully when dealing with such kind of incidents one miss step and things can escalate and go out of control.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Morizo(m): 3:43pm On Jun 05, 2016
Sweetlemon:
People just like twisting this man's words. When he said people should respect others faith he was also referring to the killers who couldn't respect the victim's faith. It's a two way thing and the respect should be mutual.
My dear am not in PdP or Apc but the president was totally wrong. whose faith was in question here? The killers or the victim? let's call a horse a horse, not a donkey that runs fast!

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by ojtech8291: 3:50pm On Jun 05, 2016
I wonder the way some people reason nowadays, it baffled me so much . Logically, from that tweet the first paragraph was against the killers, while the second paragraph was against the dead.

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Fulaman198(m): 4:53pm On Jun 05, 2016
Sweetlemon:
People just like twisting this man's words. When he said people should respect others faith he was also referring to the killers who couldn't respect the victim's faith. It's a two way thing and the respect should be mutual.

Yep that's exactly what he meant. I don't know why people like twisting the words of others
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Respect55(m): 5:36pm On Jun 05, 2016
Omotayor123:

I throway salute for your dumbness you ludicrous being. grin
I guess you have been insulted all your life and you couldn't help it. That's all you have to offer.... Insult.

Use the opportunity of Today being a Sunday and a New week to get help. You seriously need it.

As you swerve, I will help you in my prayers cheesy

I sense a bitter sadist engrossed in self guilt and inner damnation. Why don't u embrace a meaningful project for once in ur life and stop reducing ur worth d more with senseless trails. That is, if u even have one in d first instance. U even look local and timid. Pathetic creature
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by stancozy(m): 5:55pm On Jun 05, 2016
omoyemirally:
Some ppu major problem is buhari. Dey use every opportunity dey get to insult him. What else do u expect him to say? Bad belle ppu full dis Nigeria ooo and dats y we are not progressing. You av spoken well jare my president.

Wailers are free to cry.
are you yorubas and hausas not tired of calling people who make their own claims wailers? isnt it boring yet?

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by vikstandon(m): 6:02pm On Jun 05, 2016
what do u expect when u have a fanatic as a president... I won't call him a dullard but he slimes likes the substance from snail...
my people will say "Ogburula ka okro".... Nnah Onye Alakuba; Aturu-gambia isi na igagi iidowa country a abuo, anyi weere nkeanyi laakesie.... BIAFRA Anyi afuula 30ty.

A state were d death of an Igbo person is likened to slaughter of a foul, Oluwa isi na ima-nzoputa muna umunnem na aka ndi-egypt a abu Nigeria(ZOO)

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by 19naia(m): 6:06pm On Jun 05, 2016
The christian Religion propagates itself on the premise that any other supreme name aside from Jesus is blasphemy.

The Islam religion propagates itself on the premise that any other supreme name aside from Allah is Blasphemy.

The christians say burning in hell fire is the punishment for such blasphemy.

The Muslims say blasphemy is punishable by death and damanation outside of heaven

The governement comes and says it's own law is supreme and imprisonment or death penalty is the punishment for going against their laws

The agbero on the side of the road says his demands are supreme order of the moment that he corners you and there is penalty of punishment for going against his demands.

Your boss at work is saying his demands are the supreme order of the work day and punishment of sacking or docking of salary will be the penalty for going against the Oga's demands.

Then your mother and Father at home waiting with Koboko, teacher and principal at school waiting with cane to make lashes on your skin.

When all is said and done, you will say Jesua most high and muslims will call you blasphemer. You will say Allah most high and christians will say blasphemer. Hindus will be waiting with their own claim to the name of Krisna.
You will give time to Agbero harassing demands of you along side the road and you will be late to work and endure the punishment of your boss.
You will give your money to the agbero and return home broke only to face the punishment of hungry wife and children at home.

You will ignore the time and money wasting Agbero to honour your your boss's time and your families needs, then agbero will be waiting waiting with punishment for you next time he sees you.

Its a never ending game and the source of bloody wars and societal breakdowns of all sorts.
They are all Zombies oblivious to what they are doing and have no sense or regard for the delicate balance of true human nature.

The mental disease of supremacy and enforcement of ideology. sad
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by MarrisManah(m): 7:57pm On Jun 05, 2016
Damalex4luv:
You can judge Buhari from now till next year but to me he couldn't have address the issue much better this.The death of the woman is very unfortunate and I pray that she rest in the peace of the most high. this issue is a wake up call to all and sundry concerning how we manage issues, because left to me the woman could have let the sleeping dog lie by allowing those Hausa guys to do there prayer that won't even last up to 5mins and leave in peace. Hausa people are the most dangerous people in this country especially the uneducated ones because they don't value there own lifes talkless of other peoples life, you can call the Yoruba race a coward race but it's not cowardice because a Yoruba woman/man knows how to tolerate other people and in that instance would have allowed the Hausa guys to do there prayers in peace even if he/she happens to be a Bishop or Pastor God does not even ask us to judge for him. we can never fight for God and that's the more reason why I don't judge people or argue about religion. I can argue on politics but when it comes to religion you will never find me there.
You just made no sense! We are talking about a President's speech for God's sake.
What do you think would have been buhari's tweet if Christian southerners murdered a northern Muslim for defaming Christ.
The woman is dead, we are talking about the president's REACTION! Same way he uses 5%
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Omotayor123(f): 8:18pm On Jun 05, 2016
Respect55:


I sense a bitter sadist engrossed in self guilt and inner damnation. Why don't u embrace a meaningful project for once in ur life and stop reducing ur worth d more with senseless trails. That is, if u even have one in d first instance. U even look local and timid. Pathetic creature
I guess I hit the right spot. cheesy
I see you are Pained... Okalara, tongue tongue
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by TayoT: 8:34pm On Jun 05, 2016
See Buhari respecting religion.

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by giddykay: 8:36pm On Jun 05, 2016
Asimiju:
I hear say person die.

Abeg who die?
gerrarra here mehn
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by anytaij: 9:00pm On Jun 05, 2016
No kuku born na grin abi wetin you go come do?
kelEmi:
I don't understand what's wrong with this country.. I fear for my unborn kids!!
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by jbichene(m): 9:34pm On Jun 05, 2016
omoyemirally:
Some ppu major problem is buhari. Dey use every opportunity dey get to insult him. What else do u expect him to say? Bad belle ppu full dis Nigeria ooo and dats y we are not progressing. You av spoken well jare my president.

Wailers are free to cry.
i dont know were to start with u, you guys think everything is about politics .
every body has the right to free will and free speech, the woman was on her right to say anything she wished about anybody . by PMB making the statement he implied that some how the woman was at fault which is wrong . and to the woman in the second tweet , its very clear that he did not mean the woman's believe should be respected , stop following blindly if u see wrong say its wrong.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by jbichene(m): 9:39pm On Jun 05, 2016
TayoT:
See Buhari respecting religion.
WTF is dis supposed to change , some Nigerians can be so stupid ehhh , THIS IS NOT A MEDUIM TO CAMPAIGN FOR BUHARI , besides he is the president what do u expect he has no choice.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Respect55(m): 9:43pm On Jun 05, 2016
Omotayor123:
I guess I hit the right spot. cheesy I see you are Pained... Okalara, tongue tongue

N u think u can change my mood? Wake up little gal
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Omotayor123(f): 9:49pm On Jun 05, 2016
Respect55:


N u think u can change my mood? Wake up little gal
Sorry boo. Stop crying!
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Respect55(m): 9:57pm On Jun 05, 2016
Omotayor123:

Sorry boo. Stop crying!

Says who.
Since u r jobless, I'm not.
U won't get a text from me again
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Nobody: 10:09pm On Jun 05, 2016
Omotayor123:
I didn't expect less from the wailers... They are quick to show their Ignorance And Stvpidity undecided

Abeg, if we don't tolerate each other, how can we live in peace
We should learn to respect one another.
just imagine your sister or mum was murdered in that manner!
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by akpama87(m): 10:25pm On Jun 05, 2016
Except the story has other contrasting versions, as this is common with Nigerian stories, telling someone who is performing ablution to move away from the front of one's stall is not blasphemy of any sort. Even if it were blasphemy, was decapitation the only atonement?

This is my response, if anyone asks me. We could allow our masters (those we worship) to avenge themselves on the people that taint their holy names, because they are more powerful than we. I do not think a real Christian believer would resort to beheading a Muslim, even though he or she blasphemes Jesus. The Christian would rather pray for the Muslim. I know that religious beliefs differ, but Islamism does not say that its believers should behead anyone who commits the sin of blasphemy.

No type of vitriol on Buhari, perhaps as a reaction to his statement, can resurrect the woman; however, his statement may be construed as an attempt to justify that inhumane act.

It is true that genocide has become a white collar job for those cold-blooded northern killers who readily avail themselves to the slightest chance. Imagine, that savage mob paraded around, holding the slit head, to the full glare of the public. Such guts, given by whom?

Anyway, RIP

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jun 05, 2016
Baaballiyo:


Things that are barbaric , are uncivilized and brutal. What she did was uncivilized, yeah they have no such right, but out here people think otherwise that's why even the authorities tend to tred carefully when dealing with such kind of incidents one miss step and things can escalate and go out of control.

Hearing that which you do not want to hear can be described by a listener as unsavory or, at worst, insulting to their personally held ideology. It cannot be called barbaric. Now, the listener slaughtering said speaker for not holding in sanctity that which they hold in sanctity, that, that is barbaric and downright maniacal.

You were attempting to equalize the action and the reaction, as you referred to it, for reasons best known to you, likely due to a shared sanctity. But simple logic and whatever humanity you have in you reject the idea, and deep down you know them not to be, which is why you at least admitted they had no right.

It's food for thought, and something to stew in...

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Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by iyb(m): 10:44pm On Jun 05, 2016
obama30:
Mohamed is an idiot for allow his followers to kill
you are the idiot useless boy
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by chysam: 11:40pm On Jun 05, 2016
Built2last:
Samuel Iyoriobhe Thomas writes of the beheaded Deeper Life woman in Kano market.

She was a quiet woman. The wife of a
senior pastor in the Deeper Life Bible
Church. She respected people and sold her
goods by the roadside. Her quiet and
respectful demeanor drew customers to her
stall. Then, someone, an unknown enemy,
who might have been uncomfortable with
her shine or ethnicity or religion, peddled a
false rumour that ignited the maddening
mob of religious fanatics against her. It was
said that she blasphemed against Prophet
Mohammed when she humbly asked
Muslims to kindly spare the front of her
shop while they perform ablution with their
kettles. So, they came, ambushed and
beheaded the quiet woman and held her
head aloft. An innocent woman who knew
nothing about the accusations against her.
What a world. What a nation where people
believe rumours hook, line and sinker, and
go a step further to act out debauchery
based on these unsubstantiated rumours.
Believe me, there is hell and in hell, people
who talk about other people in malicious
ways, without substantial (not
circumstantial) evidence of what they are
saying, have a special spot they burn in
there. And there is a God whose anger will
consume the machinations of the wicked.
No matter how righteous you may claim to
be, avoid besmearing people's reputation.
It can lead to something bad happening to
them. And the judgement will come back to
you in mysterious ways, whether you know
what you have done or not. So many
innocent people have been killed by
ignorant mobs in Nigeria. So many
innocent people have been labelled bad by
ignorant mobs in Nigeria. I believe there is
hell and very many people will be thrown in
there, including self-righteous people and
hypocrites. The mind of man is indeed
wicked and it takes very real men to swim
above wickedness and be human,
irrespective of religious beliefs. Honestly, I
think that religion has done more harm
than good to the world. But, we continue to
exist. We continue....

After raping Ese Oruru repeatedly and getting her pregnant, this is the remorse we get. If this was done by a southerner to a Muslim girl, the death toll would be approaching 200 at least.
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I can see that your ONE NIGERIA is really saving lives,,,,,,,,,,, GOD deliver those who say NO TO RESTRUCTURING NIGERIA, please Lord
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Baaballiyo(m): 12:07am On Jun 06, 2016
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EnlightenedSoul:


Hearing that which you do not want to hear can be described by a listener as unsavory or, at worst, insulting to their personally held ideology. It cannot be called barbaric. Now, the listener slaughtering said speaker for not holding in sanctity that which they hold in sanctity, that, that is barbaric and downright maniacal.

You were attempting to equalize the action and the reaction, as you referred to it, for reasons best known to you, likely due to a shared sanctity. But simple logic and whatever humanity you have in you reject the idea, and deep down you know them not to be, which is why you at least admitted they had no right.

It's food for thought, and something to stew in...


Lol, How can you then describe the act of saying to someone that which he do not want to hear.


"Likely due to shared sanctity" Yeah I share same sanctity but I do not equate the Action and Reaction ( as I referred to it) due to that shared sanctity.






It can be called barbaric because to my little knowledge words may have a heavy and a lighter meaning (or simple and complex meanings). Here's a meaning from dictionary.com

barbaric/bɑːˈbarɪk/
adjective
1. savagely cruel.
2. primitive; unsophisticated.

The first meaning is a "heavy meaning" while the second is a lighter one.


This one is from Merriam-webster dictionary

Simple Definition of barbaric
:
of or relating to barbarians
:
very rude or offensive : not polite or proper
:
very cruel

Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary.

So what she said was very rude, offensive, not polite and not proper. So according to this simple definition I am right to equate both the Action and the Reaction as barbaric.

Hmmm I like the way u like taking a walk into someone's mind trying to decipher their hidden thoughts by considering their expressed thoughts, but I admitted they were not right not because "whatever humanity I have left in me reject the idea of their equality", but because I don't believe in " jungle justice", administering justice is the exclusive right of the state not individuals or groups, we have laws ( Both Penal and Sharia codes ) in the North so her penalty should have been decided by one of the courts not by mobs. I still believe both the Action and the Reaction are condemn-able.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Nobody: 12:49am On Jun 06, 2016
Baaballiyo:

smiley

Lol, How can you then describe the act of saying to someone that which he do not want to hear

Um, life? Whether they like it or not, one will hear things they do not wish to hear throughout the course of their life. And so?

"Likely due to shared sanctity" Yeah I share same sanctity but I do not equate the Action and Reaction (as I referred to it) due to that shared sanctity.

It can be called barbaric because to my little knowledge words may have a heavy and a lighter meaning (or simple and complex meanings). Here's a meaning from dictionary.com

barbaric/bɑːˈbarɪk/
adjective
1. savagely cruel.
2. primitive; unsophisticated.

The first meaning is a "heavy meaning" while the second is a lighter one.

This one is from Merriam-webster dictionary

Simple Definition of barbaric
:
of or relating to barbarians
:
very rude or offensive : not polite or proper
:
very cruel

Source: Merriam-Webster's Learner's Dictionary.

So what she said was very rude, offensive, not polite and not proper. So according to this simple definition I am right to equate both the Action and the Reaction as barbaric.

Are you aware the common usage for the word "barbaric" is for what you term the "heavy meaning"? I'd also like you to notice the contrast in your statements (bold and red) on that which you first clearly differentiate as heavy and light in meaning, but in the same breathe, soon attempt to equate the two, essentially asserting that the heavy now = the light, and thus, the reaction (heavy) equals the action (light).

So, which is it? Because it cannot be both. Either there is a differentiation between the light and heavy meaning, thereby making them unequal by default, or there isn't.

Hmmm I like the way u try going for a walk into someone's mind trying to decipher their hidden thoughts by considering their expressed thoughts, but I admitted they were not right not because "whatever humanity I have left in me reject the idea of their equality", but because I don't believe in " jungle justice", administering justice is the exclusive right of the state not individuals or groups, we have laws ( Both Penal and Sharia codes ) in the North so her penalty should have been decided by one of the courts not by mobs. I still believe both the Action and the Reaction are condemn-able.

So, due process? That's the difference between the mob and yourself? That an authority should've carried out the killing for her actions, and not a mob, or anyone else? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Baaballiyo(m): 1:23am On Jun 06, 2016
EnlightenedSoul:


Um, life? Whether they like it or not, one will hear things they do not wish to hear throughout the course of their life. And so?



Are you aware the common usage for the word "barbaric" is for what you term the "heavy meaning"? I'd also like you to notice the contrast in your statements (bold and red) on that which you first clearly differentiate as heavy and light in meaning, but in the same breathe, soon attempt to equate the two, essentially by asserting that the heavy now = the light, and thus, the action (light) equals the reaction (heavy).

So, which is it? Because it cannot be both. Either there is a differentiation between the light and heavy meaning, or there isn't, thereby making them unequal.



So, due process? That's the difference between the mob and yourself? That an authority should've carried out the killing for her actions, if wanting, and not a mob, or anyone else? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah the common usage is the heavy meaning.

There's no contrast in what I said, they're equal but different in intensity, just like you turning the volume of your Tv set from 10 to may be 100. The difference in intensity will not make them unequal just like the increase in volume of your tv set will not change the audio output you are listening to.

Yea that's the difference btw me and the mob, I don't know if the penalty for her action is a death sentence or not, but I would have agree with whatever the verdict of the court is, be it acquittal, Fine, Imprisonment, death sentence; whatever the law says.
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Omotayor123(f): 3:39am On Jun 06, 2016
henry49:
just imagine your sister or mum was murdered in that manner!
I can only imagine that about your sis and mum!
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by Omotayor123(f): 3:40am On Jun 06, 2016
Respect55:

Says who. Since u r jobless, I'm not. U won't get a text from me again
Lol... The jobless one is you. Yeye boy tongue
Re: Nigerians Reacts To President Buhari's Twit About The Murdered Woman In Kano by annunaki2(m): 6:15am On Jun 06, 2016
Killing Critics

What is the punishment for insulting Islam or Muhammad?

Under Sharia, those who insult Muhammad or Allah are to be executed. So are those who desecrate the Quran or commit other acts of blasphemy. This tradition began with Muhammad, as recorded in the Hadith and by his biographers. There is also a Quranic basis for it.
Quran

Quran (6:93) - "Who can be more wicked than one who invent a lie against Allah?" If the death penalty is prescribed for lesser crime, then it stands to reason that it should be imposed for the most "wicked".
Quran (33:57) - "Lo! those who malign Allah and His messenger, Allah has cursed them in this world and the Hereafter, and has prepared for them the doom of the disdained"

Quran (33:61) - [continues from above] "Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."
Hadith and Sira

Bukhari (59:369) - This recounts the murder of Ka'b bin al-Ashraf, a Jewish poet who wrote verses about Muslims that Muhammad found insulting. He asked his followers, 'Who will rid me of this man?' and several volunteered. al-Ashraf was stabbed to death while fighting for his life.

Bukhari (3:106) - "The Prophet said, "Do not tell a lie against me for whoever tells a lie against me (intentionally) then he will surely enter the Hell-fire."

Bukhari (4:241) - Those who mocked Muhammad at Mecca were killed after he had retaken the city and asserted his authority.

Sahih Muslim (1801) - "The Messenger of Allah said: Who will kill Ka'b b. Ashraf? He has maligned Allah, the Exalted, and His Messenger"

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